Gore

[sing blue silver]

I don't know, that seems weird, to play a song we haven't heard live without it being released. I guess not, but hopefully we'll get to hear Crest.

Just like how they debuted Rocket Skates, Poltergeist, Rosemary, Melanie, Finger of Death and countless others? I wouldn't say it's much of a stretch.

[ANattyRat]

I don't know, that seems weird, to play a song we haven't heard live without it being released. I guess not, but hopefully we'll get to hear Crest.

Just like how they debuted Rocket Skates, Poltergeist, Rosemary, Melanie, Finger of Death and countless others? I wouldn't say it's much of a stretch.

It's a stretch considering they didn't even want to play any songs from Gore until they'd been released properly. Except Doomed User, but that was released very quickly after they first played it. But hey, hopefully they'll release Crest.

[pelican fly]

one of their best albums

[B0RNtoR0CK]

one of their best albums

Not even close. Not even in my top 5.

[ANattyRat]

one of their best albums

Not even close. Not even in my top 5.

In my top three, behind White Pony and self-titled.

[rainnyx4]

one of their best albums

Not even close. Not even in my top 5.

Yep, might be their least memorable.

[Penicks]

great discussion guys

[illthrowROCKS@U]

one of their best albums

Not even close. Not even in my top 5.

In my top three, behind White Pony and self-titled.

I have it as fourth for me at the moment.

[Cullision]

I think it's clearly the worst.

[B0RNtoR0CK]

I think it's clearly the worst.

Yeah....sadly....its between Gore and SNW for me and I think SNW might be better. Gore is just really hard to listen to with the terrible production.

On a side note, have you guys listened to Korn- Rotting in vain? It was produced my none other than Nick Raskulinecz (Diamond Eyes, Koi No Yokan) and it sounds so fuking good. Its a shame Deftones didn't use Raskulinecz on Gore.

[HooiserBowhunter]

I think it's clearly the worst.

Yeah....sadly....its between Gore and SNW for me and I think SNW might be better. Gore is just really hard to listen to with the terrible production.

On a side note, have you guys listened to Korn- Rotting in vain? It was produced my none other than Nick Raskulinecz (Diamond Eyes, Koi No Yokan) and it sounds so fuking good. Its a shame Deftones didn't use Raskulinecz on Gore.

Yeah I think Nick would have made Gore sound a lot better honestly, and I don't shit about producing cds. I still think Gore is a good cd even if it isn't your favorite Deftones album. Also it sounds like if they ever do make another album they will not use him again from the interviews.

[LG95]

Gore's about fourth or fifth for me. I love it.

On a side note, have you guys listened to Korn- Rotting in vain? It was produced my none other than Nick Raskulinecz (Diamond Eyes, Koi No Yokan) and it sounds so fuking good. Its a shame Deftones didn't use Raskulinecz Terry Date on Gore.

[Cullision]

I'm gay for Terry Date.

[pinata89]

I'm gay for Terry Date.

Me too. I miss him lots.


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[cvthedrv]

Nick Raskulinecz became deftones into a radio friendly band.

fuck him.

[rainnyx4]

Nick Raskulinecz became deftones into a radio friendly band.

fuck him.

Oh yeah, KNY was so radio friendly. I totally remember hearing Deftones on the radio constantly back then. And all those 14 year old girls raving about Rosemary, man that was so annoying.

The idea that Deftones ever have been or will be "radio friendly" (whatever that means, since I don't think anyone really "listens to the radio" anymore in the classic sense of the phrase) is retarded.

[Freedomsoldier17]

A handful of their music is definitely more conventional, yeah. As in the catchy riff w/ the "traditional" song style (verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus end). But they've been doing that since the 90s, take ATF(song) and BQAD(radio edit). Maybe they're more radio friendly, but they're not so conventional they lose their unique Deftones style. They're heavy and raw in their respective ways. I mean, you have to have at least one more conventional song to draw in listeners who aren't as familiar with your music. Take Hole in the Earth for example, kinda poppy and radio friendly, so they made that the lead single. But again, doesn't lose its Deftones tinge, such as Frank's atmosphere, Steph's punchy guitar, and the moody singing/lyrics. Same thing went down with Diamond Eyes, Swerve City, and P/T in my opinion.

[krook]

What do you think about the new in-your-face style of singing that Chino tries on Gore? It appears in the beginning of Geometric Headdress (Hey princess, lay back in your chair / Show us your geometry, see if I stare), at the end of (L)MIRL (Right now / Bear witness / This rebirth / Right now), at the end of Prayers/Triangles (I will never walk this street again).
I always skip it, it's cringeworthy.

[rainnyx4]

Just because something is "catchy" or written using a "conventional" style doesn't mean it's "radio friendly". "Radio friendly" has a certain connotation that implies a calculated intent on the part of the artist to produce something that will garner them more fans (make them more mainstream) and the resulting increased cash flow, i.e. virtually any overproduced pop artist. It would connote, in the case of the Deftones, a certain amount of selling out. This band has clearly never really cared about how many people like them (how mainstream they are) or how much money they make (of course, they probably wouldn't refuse more cash if they were offered). The closest they ever came to doing something like that was "Back to School" which was written purportedly as a middle finger to the record company; proving how easy it is to have a hit and that they could do it any time they want.

This band has always been about a group of guys making music that THEY like and are proud of. They couldn't care less about being "radio friendly". If it happens to make them famous and a lot of money, that's just a bonus.

[B0RNtoR0CK]

Nick Raskulinecz became deftones into a radio friendly band.

fuck him.

? They're most mainstream/"radio friendly" album will always be White pony.

Besides, its not even the producer who makes the album "radio friendly" its the record label. How many times has chino said in interviews that the record label changed their songs on white pony (constantly repeating the choruses).