EROS - no leak topic

[Formant]

Also...is everyone else assuming the end of Electra eventually morphed/evolved into the ending to Royal?

I'm getting more influence from Beware vibes from it, instead of an evolution into Royal. That's just me though.

I don't really think any riffs here directly moved to future albums-- like had been claimed before the leak. However, certain creative choices started here, like Steph playing upper register solo-type melodies and more lumbering, simple riffs.

To me, the only things they put on future material would be taking the R out of Trempest and using the word Diamond.

[sober_sane]

After the third listen I kinda get Rocket Skates vibes off Electra's chorus.

By the way, what's that talk at the end of Margot? Like, was it intended or someone literally talked during the recording lol.

[Penicks]

this album is a weird multidimensional fever dream, it's so bizarre this wasn't a part of my life fifteen years ago cause cause it would've felt right at home. sucks for the lads it got pushed out like this and can't even imagine what it feels like to basically have someone rip out pages from your musical diary (and sell it at that) but god damn man it's good shit

[Hidalgo]

18 years in the making, and we finally hear it. very unexpected. it sounds about exactlty how Chino described it. 80% music done, 50% vocals done. you can tell some of these vocals are just melody fillers, rough ideas. but the album is far far closer to complete than the old bob ezrin demos, with really really rough vocals on only a few tracks. every track here has vocals, and somewhat mixed sounding. i've only heard it once. about to listen to it again in a little while. this is wild that it leaked, and the tracks all have vocals

was there also a b-side from ohms released? cause i could never find it
(gore b-side?)

[Draken]

Agree it's some good shit.

I see how band says it needs work but damn is it some classic Deftones. Most of the tracks could be worked out a little, mixed, mastered and I'd be happy. I think it's Chino who was most unhappy with how it was in it's present state.

And I respect others' opinions and all but everyone talking about how great Candy is, Why

Why

wHy

Whyyyy

[Draken]

Actually same here. I still didnt listen to it. Its getting difficult.

That's some self restraint right there, gawd damn.

So have you listened to it yet?

[tongues_of_flame]

It's not about charity, it's about doing the right thing. They clearly do not want this material out and everyone knows it. What sort of a fan would spit in the face of that, especially knowing the circumstances around the album?

chino doesn't want the material out, and i respect that given the circumstances. however, i wouldn't say that's true of every member. i haven't and will likely never listen to eros. i think it's a damn shame how it made it to the internet and i got a bad vibe from that guy the second i noticed him on here.

I get what you are saying, but even in those interviews Abe says it needs a lot of work before it would be released officially. Clearly that work has not happened.

oh, i agree that the album was leaked in an unfinished state. i'm just saying that of the band members who didn't want eros to come out, chino was the most vocal of them. like i said, it's a damn shame it got leaked like this and i'm not listening to it.

[tongues_of_flame]

It's not about charity, it's about doing the right thing. They clearly do not want this material out and everyone knows it. What sort of a fan would spit in the face of that, especially knowing the circumstances around the album?

chino doesn't want the material out, and i respect that given the circumstances. however, i wouldn't say that's true of every member. i haven't and will likely never listen to eros. i think it's a damn shame how it made it to the internet and i got a bad vibe from that guy the second i noticed him on here.

if the forum decides on a charity to donate to in cheng's name, i'd happily donate. like B_S_79 said,

Donating to a charity and sending money to the band are two completely different fucking things.

The Reddit group didn't take kindly to my suggestion. I donated to UC Davis Children's Hospital in the name of the band and Chi..  the same charity the band ran a charity drive for back during Ohms. "Adopt a Dot" from the Ohms album cover.

Got accused of virtue signaling and was told to do my research before donating and I was an idiot for choosing the children's hospital.

TLDR fuck Reddit. lol. Sticking to SL from here on out.

yeah, the subreddit is...unfortunately very reddity. reddit used to be a semi-helpful place for asking questions but over time it just got very nasty. i felt like i could never predict when someone would go at me for something i didn't even anticipate would be contentious to say or do.

i mostly lurk and observe just about everywhere when it comes to the band because sometimes i find info i haven't seen or heard elsewhere (usually magazine scans lol), but on reddit and tiktok specifically it can be a real cesspit sometimes. on here and on tumblr is where i tend to find the most informed/mature fans. i actually found out about the leak through people posting about it on the deftones tag on tumblr! from there i knew this would be the place to see if it was true lol

[RikshawHoward]

Haven't listened either apart from a couple of clips someone shared with me :shrug:

[mandalay]

The songs on Eros are a reminder of how magical and unique the Deftones were.  Deftones 2.0 (DE and after) are a weird, nearly unrecognizable shadow of their former selves.  I can't think of a single song on DE or after that sounds like the band I grew up on.  Eros captures that magic and is a beautiful reminder.  Despite my harsh words for Deftones 2.0, it is remarkable that DE sprung from the band within a year or two following Eros.  I think part of this change is due to age, the Cheng incident's effect on them, the addition of Sergio, and something cosmic beyond our comprehension.  Despite not caring for the Deftones 2.0 sound, which all I can say is disturbingly straight-forward, uninteresting, and sometimes contrived, I can't deny it's what they needed to continue and to reach a commercial high that they are currently enjoying and deserved for so long.  I just wish it had come sooner.

[DefFsho]

I now get the bittersweet sentiment that many of you mentioned about hearing EROS. Lusting after that album for 18 years Ish became part of me that is now gone and I don't really know how to feel about it except bittersweet is the right word for sure. But holy shit there are some jams on it like Diamond and Trempest and MELANIE and Electra..... for me. It is very bottom half heavy as far as what I liked about it after a few listens. This is insane. I knew it would happen eventually, but I always thought it was going to be them themselves that gave it to us. I think it's a criminal act to not release a song like Trempest

[DefFsho]

This is probably the biggest thing to ever happen on this forum. There's still a few names lurking around this place that I remember from those 2007 2008 days when they were dropping those I think weekly clips in the studio making this record. That one evil sounding jam that Chi and Steph were working on, I wish made this record. Also was really hoping to hear what Frank's work on that clip where he's playing that really weird synth electronic sound turned out to be, but it didn't make the cut. Would've been a sweet intro. But of course they've done 1 million things We've never heard that would b great to hear and see...Just like anything else. I'm surprised that a few of those older members haven't reacted to this yet to be honest. Who's the guy who had the little thumbnail picture of a stick man pissing in a dirty toilet? He was a dick but hilarious !!!  I'm glad I got to hear it, but I do get that it sucks in a way, but art is made to share. It wasn't shared correctly. But it was shared, and we are all enjoying it don't lie.

[buddyboy101]

This is probably the biggest thing to ever happen on this forum. There's still a few names lurking around this place that I remember from those 2007 2008 days when they were dropping those I think weekly clips in the studio making this record. That one evil sounding jam that Chi and Steph were working on, I wish made this record. Also was really hoping to hear what Frank's work on that clip where he's playing that really weird synth electronic sound turned out to be, but it didn't make the cut. Would've been a sweet intro. But of course they've done 1 million things We've never heard that would b great to hear and see...Just like anything else. I'm surprised that a few of those older members haven't reacted to this yet to be honest. Who's the guy who had the little thumbnail picture of a stick man pissing in a dirty toilet? He was a dick but hilarious !!!  I'm glad I got to hear it, but I do get that it sucks in a way, but art is made to share. It wasn't shared correctly. But it was shared, and we are all enjoying it don't lie.

Many many old names have come back.  Penicks, Pixelsblur, Far Away, etc. - many from the earliest 2004 days.

Regarding the "evil" riff, if we're thinking of the same clip, then that would be Trempest. 

Edit: referring to this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk

Edit 2: you're prob referring to this clip, i agree it does not appear to be in the leak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn_OT-Jh4Y

[tongues_of_flame]

Most of the tracks could be worked out a little, mixed, mastered and I'd be happy. I think it's Chino who was most unhappy with how it was in it's present state.

i've seen posts from two different people on here about working on mixing/mastering the tracks. i know one of them was deftones-argentina and the posts were on the original eros thread (maybe in the early pages of this thread too?) after news of the leak hit the forum. now that lossless wav files have been discovered it'll probably be even easier to do so! main problem then will be making it accessible since chances are the label will still strike anything eros-related for the time being.

[Gaz]

After many listens its incredible, I love how raw some of it sounds, I felt really conflicted listening to it at first with the circumstances, but there are some real gems on that album, Diamond in particular, I cant get that song out of my head.

Its a real insight into where the band were at the time and direction they were heading into with this, I never thought it would ever see the light of day

[sharinglungs]

This is probably the biggest thing to ever happen on this forum. There's still a few names lurking around this place that I remember from those 2007 2008 days when they were dropping those I think weekly clips in the studio making this record. That one evil sounding jam that Chi and Steph were working on, I wish made this record. Also was really hoping to hear what Frank's work on that clip where he's playing that really weird synth electronic sound turned out to be, but it didn't make the cut. Would've been a sweet intro. But of course they've done 1 million things We've never heard that would b great to hear and see...Just like anything else. I'm surprised that a few of those older members haven't reacted to this yet to be honest. Who's the guy who had the little thumbnail picture of a stick man pissing in a dirty toilet? He was a dick but hilarious !!!  I'm glad I got to hear it, but I do get that it sucks in a way, but art is made to share. It wasn't shared correctly. But it was shared, and we are all enjoying it don't lie.

Many many old names have come back.  Penicks, Pixelsblur, Far Away, etc. - many from the earliest 2004 days.

Regarding the "evil" riff, if we're thinking of the same clip, then that would be Trempest. 

Edit: referring to this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk

Edit 2: you're prob referring to this clip, i agree it does not appear to be in the leak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn_OT-Jh4Y

Those two clips are Trempest

[E-Money]

What a wild week guys! Well, I definitely have mixed feelings about all this, but I'm really glad we got to finally hear it because I'm not sure if we ever would have.

It's such a shame that Chi was in his accident. Hearing this music just makes me think of where they could've taken this record if they had more time to complete it and all of the beautiful music that we've missed out on without the original lineup.

Not saying that, I am not totally appreciative for the last 20 years because I absolutely am. But it's just hard not to wonder....

Abe's playing on this is absolutely beautiful. The end of Diamond absolutely Soars and Candy is beautiful.

It definitely sounds like a more experimental album. There's some really cool ideas on this and it could've been a killer record.

RIP Chi ❤️

[Vesanic]

@buddyboy I tried to message you but it looks like your inbox is full.

[DefFsho]

This is probably the biggest thing to ever happen on this forum. There's still a few names lurking around this place that I remember from those 2007 2008 days when they were dropping those I think weekly clips in the studio making this record. That one evil sounding jam that Chi and Steph were working on, I wish made this record. Also was really hoping to hear what Frank's work on that clip where he's playing that really weird synth electronic sound turned out to be, but it didn't make the cut. Would've been a sweet intro. But of course they've done 1 million things We've never heard that would b great to hear and see...Just like anything else. I'm surprised that a few of those older members haven't reacted to this yet to be honest. Who's the guy who had the little thumbnail picture of a stick man pissing in a dirty toilet? He was a dick but hilarious !!!  I'm glad I got to hear it, but I do get that it sucks in a way, but art is made to share. It wasn't shared correctly. But it was shared, and we are all enjoying it don't lie.

Many many old names have come back.  Penicks, Pixelsblur, Far Away, etc. - many from the earliest 2004 days.

Regarding the "evil" riff, if we're thinking of the same clip, then that would be Trempest. 

Edit: referring to this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk

Edit 2: you're prob referring to this clip, i agree it does not appear to be in the leak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn_OT-Jh4Y

It was a .....da dadda da da da da repeating

[DefFsho]

This is probably the biggest thing to ever happen on this forum. There's still a few names lurking around this place that I remember from those 2007 2008 days when they were dropping those I think weekly clips in the studio making this record. That one evil sounding jam that Chi and Steph were working on, I wish made this record. Also was really hoping to hear what Frank's work on that clip where he's playing that really weird synth electronic sound turned out to be, but it didn't make the cut. Would've been a sweet intro. But of course they've done 1 million things We've never heard that would b great to hear and see...Just like anything else. I'm surprised that a few of those older members haven't reacted to this yet to be honest. Who's the guy who had the little thumbnail picture of a stick man pissing in a dirty toilet? He was a dick but hilarious !!!  I'm glad I got to hear it, but I do get that it sucks in a way, but art is made to share. It wasn't shared correctly. But it was shared, and we are all enjoying it don't lie.

Many many old names have come back.  Penicks, Pixelsblur, Far Away, etc. - many from the earliest 2004 days.

Regarding the "evil" riff, if we're thinking of the same clip, then that would be Trempest. 

Edit: referring to this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk

Edit 2: you're prob referring to this clip, i agree it does not appear to be in the leak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn_OT-Jh4Y

It was a .....da dadda da da da da repeating

Yes, the second one and it does not appear on the record and as simple as it is, I just always loved it