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"Ohms" - Deftones New Album

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Draken

Quote from: kurtone on Sep 25, 2020, 04:50 PM
The verse of Pompeji sounds like the verse of Phantom Bride.

I thought the same thing

kurtone

Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 25, 2020, 04:45 PM
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 25, 2020, 04:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 25, 2020, 03:37 PM
If there would be at least one hit song (Change/Digital Bath level) this would be my favorite record from them. And I'm not overreacting, this stuff is amazing. All songs are so solid, I can't find any weak parts at all (except Pompeji's chorus, it's too strange for me).

I think Urantia has potential to reach Change hit song level. This hook is so fuckin catchy...
Woah steady there.
can change even be considered a true hit? i mean it was played a good amount for a year, but after that i haven't heard it on the radio ever again, like NEVER ever EVER EVER again. they've never had a hit that the radio deemed worthy to immortalize. their hits get played (mostly after midnight) for a few months, then never EVER again, like ever ever never

I'd say it's a hit. Whenever I look at live clips on Instagram during tours it's always change and my own summer.

from_musings

Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans

Last i heard was 7.5 million, and that was stated last week.
Maybe that was just u.s sales though

Hidalgo

Quote from: from_musings on Sep 25, 2020, 05:00 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans

Last i heard was 7.5 million, and that was stated last week.
Maybe that was just u.s sales though
5.5 million U.S., 4.5 rest of the world

Draken

Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 25, 2020, 04:45 PM
Quote from: Yossarian on Sep 25, 2020, 04:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 25, 2020, 03:37 PM
If there would be at least one hit song (Change/Digital Bath level) this would be my favorite record from them. And I'm not overreacting, this stuff is amazing. All songs are so solid, I can't find any weak parts at all (except Pompeji's chorus, it's too strange for me).

I think Urantia has potential to reach Change hit song level. This hook is so fuckin catchy...
Woah steady there.
can "change" even be considered a true hit? i mean it was played a good amount for a year, but after that i haven't heard it on the radio ever again, like NEVER ever EVER EVER again. they've never had a hit that the radio deemed worthy to immortalize. their hits get played (mostly after midnight) for a few months when the records are new, then never EVER again, like ever ever never. they kind of are the biggest underground band. no hits, but 3 platinum albums and 1 gold, 10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans

Change is still played on the local rock station where I live, and it was on the Little Nicky and Queen of the Damned soundtrack, as well as some TV shows.

LG95

Change is a hit. It might not get mega radio play but it's a hit alright. The sort of song that's recognisable to rock and alternative fans of that era who may not have really listened to the band.
I could float here forever

nineteen

Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 25, 2020, 04:39 PM
Quote from: nineteen on Sep 25, 2020, 04:21 PM
Given it a handful of listens now. It's such a complex album to me, so it makes me feel like it's super accessible but at the same time one that will take waaaay more listens for it to sink in.

A sign of a great album.

Time will determine where it sits in their discography but it'll be up there for sure.

Yeah, I definitely feel like it's one of their more complex. I've listened to it numerous times and I enjoy it quite a bit but I feel like I still haven't fully wrapped my head around it yet.

One of the things I'm noticing is it feels like the songs take their time building, as opposed to, say, the more simple, to the point songs on Diamond Eyes. Maybe due to the longer time lengths?

Yeah for sure! The structures feel super random but I wonder if the different tracks lengths like you say and the unusual melodies mask it all.

Mixed emotions on the whole album but all in a good way. It's weird!

from_musings


from_musings

Quote from: from_musings on Sep 25, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 05:01 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 25, 2020, 05:00 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans

Last i heard was 7.5 million, and that was stated last week.
Maybe that was just u.s sales though
5.5 million U.S., 4.5 rest of the world

Thats awesome. 10000002 now ,just ordered the cd and lp.
Do you have a link?

Hidalgo

#3349
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 25, 2020, 05:02 PM
Change is a hit. It might not get mega radio play but it's a hit alright. The sort of song that's recognisable to rock and alternative fans of that era who may not have really listened to the band.
is it played more where any of you live? cause here (ohio, cincinnati area) it's been since at least 2003 that i last heard it, and i might not have even heard it once that year, might be remembering wrong, but i think it was played once in lead up to Minerva being played. it was played a good amount for 10 months to a year after it first hit the radio in 2000, then nothing whatsoever. any different where some of you live?

Hidalgo

Quote from: from_musings on Sep 25, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 25, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 05:01 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 25, 2020, 05:00 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans

Last i heard was 7.5 million, and that was stated last week.
Maybe that was just u.s sales though
5.5 million U.S., 4.5 rest of the world

Thats awesome. 10000002 now ,just ordered the cd and lp.
Do you have a link?
a link for what their sales? there's a bunch of articles that say 10 million worldwide the past 2 years or so. wikipedia has gone with it and won't erase it, and the math seems to add up. i think the sales figure was released by their label

N0S3BLEED976

Urantia is one of the best songs they've ever written. The vocal melody and drums are *chef's kiss*

LG95

Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 05:07 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 25, 2020, 05:02 PM
Change is a hit. It might not get mega radio play but it's a hit alright. The sort of song that's recognisable to rock and alternative fans of that era who may not have really listened to the band.
is it played more where any of you live? cause here (ohio, cincinnati area) it's been since at leasy 2003 that i last heard it, and i might not have even heard it one that year, might be remembering wrong, but i think it was played once in lead up to Minerva being played. it was played a good amount for 10 months to a year after it first hit the radio in 2000, then nothing whatsoever. any different where some of you live?
I think you'll have to define what you're classifying as a hit. It was an alternative hit, not a mainstream one. And I'm not saying it's anywhere near Last Resort or something like that. But it was big enough that it crossed over, through film soundtracks and playlists, to people who don't know the band.
I could float here forever

from_musings

Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 05:09 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 25, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 25, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 05:01 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 25, 2020, 05:00 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
10 million albums sold worldwide, and diehard fans

Last i heard was 7.5 million, and that was stated last week.
Maybe that was just u.s sales though
5.5 million U.S., 4.5 rest of the world

Thats awesome. 10000002 now ,just ordered the cd and lp.
Do you have a link?
a link for what their sales? there's a bunch of articles that say 10 million worldwide the past 2 years or so. wikipedia has gone with it and won't erase it, and the math seems to add up. i think the sales figure was released by their label

Ok i haven't been following them the last 2y,its just that they said 7.5million in a ohms interview the other day, but i really hope its 10  :D

LG95

A reminder that this is happening on Sunday:

https://twitter.com/DanielPCarter/status/1309525822856925186?s=19
QuoteSunday night on @Radio1RockShow  I'm playing the fantastic new @deftones album 'Ohms' in full along with interviews with the band about its creation. PLUS some choice stuff from the BBC archives...
@BBCR1 from 9pm
#Deftones #ohms https://t.co/zcCIsBNHcj

Not a regular thing for him to play a new album in full on that show.
I could float here forever

lungdamage

Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 03:10 PM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 25, 2020, 02:56 AM
Don't know if this was posted yet.

https://omny.fm/shows/triple-m-rock-interviews/deftones-talk-new-album-ohms?fbclid=IwAR1Ed-5RwO9XOhIT1vrChDwlRD38PtR2Rt_SLT7ZrvSPY9cbZHlspMm70bo


TSOM was the last song written for the album - in the studio, after abe and sergio were just messing around and chino sneakily said to record them from the other room :)
he also said there was a finished song(musically) that he tried and tried to make lyrics and melodies for, but just couldn't get there and had to walk away. so there went our 11th song, lol.

Yeah, it just didn't work out. The last track recorded that made it on to the record was TSOM.

RikshawHoward

Go back and finish it Chino! Terry is only a short drive away!

Inkblades

#3357
I love how we as fans can pull the "But Terry only lives three hours away from you, Chino!" card now. Just go live in the camper in Terry's driveway and get to making more music!

Hidalgo

Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 25, 2020, 05:33 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 25, 2020, 03:10 PM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 25, 2020, 02:56 AM
Don't know if this was posted yet.

https://omny.fm/shows/triple-m-rock-interviews/deftones-talk-new-album-ohms?fbclid=IwAR1Ed-5RwO9XOhIT1vrChDwlRD38PtR2Rt_SLT7ZrvSPY9cbZHlspMm70bo


TSOM was the last song written for the album - in the studio, after abe and sergio were just messing around and chino sneakily said to record them from the other room :)
he also said there was a finished song(musically) that he tried and tried to make lyrics and melodies for, but just couldn't get there and had to walk away. so there went our 11th song, lol.

Yeah, it just didn't work out. The last track recorded that made it on to the record was TSOM.
very interesting. so anyone wondering why this has only 10 tracks, that explains it. he tried hard, but just couldn't come up with anything good enough

Draken

It's been really interesting listening to others opinions on this album. I'm several listens in at this point and I can safely point to my favorites on this album. Every Deftones album for me does this thing where I go through system shock at first listen because I have no idea where the music will go. But after having a night to really digest it I'll say:

(this is just my opinion, don't be mad at me  :-*)
I just knew Ceremony would be one of my favorites, the chorus (not just vocals but also the instrumental rhythm) is absolutely one of the catchiest they've done in awhile.

Urantia is gorgeous, top track for me. However only one negative I can say, (and it's not really a negative) is the beginning of the song (to use a metaphor) is like when your dad tells you you're going on a ride with him in his old 1961 ferrari 250GT and you're like "fuck yeah we're gonna blow the roof off this bitch" but then ya'll get out and just cruise and have a nice memorable day of bonding. The song just goes in the opposite direction of where I thought it was going but that's not a bad thing. I love the groove on this one, and the chorus is great.

The Spell of Mathematics... is... my... jam. This song is like auditory sex... and when you listen with the track visualizer it's fuckin rad. GAWD that chorus "I believe your love has placed its spell on me" sounds like R&B or something, I can't describe it, it's just sexy AF. I see what people were saying about it. Favorite track easily.

Pompeji is an interesting track but not at all what I was expecting. Tell you the truth, I don't know what I was expecting. It's a slower song than I had imagined. I thought the seagulls fit very well with the song, and that outro is gorgeous too. Kinda reminds me of Twin Peaks music, as a matter of fact, a lot of the album gives me those feels.

This Link Is Dead isn't my cup of tea. Not hearing what others are hearing. Maybe just me but I hear some Faith No More on this track. I just don't think of it as "heavy" or "angry". WGTB will continue to be the heaviest and most pissed they've ever been. The vocal effect/delivery is present but that's where the comparison ends for me.

Radiant City is a rather strange track... I dunno how to feel about it yet. Error is not doing it for me much either, but I do like the chorus. Headless sounds a little like the sequel to Xenon, but like Terminator 2 sequel, not Speed 2 sequel. (I'm old that's the reference I'm going with) I like that track a lot.

Overall I think the best songs were the singles, along with Ceremony, Urantia, and TSOM. Genesis is just a fucking banger, Deftones doing what Deftones do; and the title track Ohms is a great closer to a rather great album. If I could describe the sound of the album I'd say it's like all their previous albums having an orgy. The production was stellar but I felt at times like they still have a problem with the vocals resting on top of the music too much. Like Chino's mix is loud and has that reverberating effect, idk for some reason he just wants that echoey effect there. Doesn't bother me like it did on Gore, I just still noticed it. That being said, it's a vast improvement over Gore. It's a solid 8/10 for me.