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Title: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 01:49 PM
Let's get the things clear right now:

I really am satisfied about Diamond Eyes. I think it's a brillant album with lots of influences and the tracks are really original. But I want to hear Eros more than ever before, not because I want to be a pain in the ass always wanting to have something to speculate about, but only because, like I said several times in other topics, I was and still am more curious about Eros than Diamond Eyes. We all know that Eros won't see the light of the day until Chi wakes up ( that's the most probable case and it would be normal, respectfully to Chi ), but am I the only one who still wants to hear it ? Are you all on the " Diamond Eyes rocks, don't give a crap about Eros atm " mode ?

What do we know about this record, so far ?

First of all, the record has been produced by Terry Date, which is, to me, the sixth Deftones member. This is the only guy able to give them the necessary things to get their sound at its best.


Secondly, here's a (cut) screenshot of the artwork that was on their website during Eros writing process:

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2479/sanstitre1on.png)

Let alone the hearts symbols, was this supposed to be the album cover ? I say it would be an excellent one. Plus, you'll say  " nah it's just a detail " but to me, a deftones cover MUST have deftones written à la ribbon 131 font style.

Thirdly, Chino described the album as weird, unorthodox, featuring a lot of atmosphere and soundscaping, and having the old good " Fuck you I hope you die " aggressive style the fans have been missing. "

Did the boys want to get back to the Adrenaline roots ? That's what I feel about the " Fuck you I hope you die " thing.

In another interview, Chino said:

"The songs are definitely weird, which is a breath of fresh air to me. I haven't been playing guitar on these new songs so Steph has taken up the helm and that's worked out really well. He's been very creative has been writing very weird, melodic stuff. That's great because I want the album to be as weird as we can possibly make it without completely alienating people. If I had to compare it to any of our records, then I think it probably reminds me of White Pony the most. There's a lot of atmosphere and a lot of soundscaping. I couldn't feel better about it at the moment. In fact, I'd say that our working relationship is better than it's ever been before. As a result, everything has improved, our friendships and our lives. We're all really happy now. Over the last few years, a lot of the band members have had a few problems–divorces, money problems, life–and it has just been an unhappy time. We've all come out of that now. I hate to talk like its all rainbows and sunshine over here, but it is!...Having rediscovered our friendships, everything became worthwhile again. Every day just gets better and better now. "

So, we know that the creation process has been way better than Saturday NIght Wrist.

Fourthly and most importantly, what do we have straight from the record ?

One song, " Melanie ", was played live twice in California. Here are the two live performances of that song:


Deftones - Melanie live @ The Spaceland Ballroom, Silverlake, Los Angeles, California, USA - September 18th 2008

Deftones - Melanie [Live] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJ5qVB8ogk#)


Deftones - Melanie live @ The Ventura Theatre, Ventura, California, USA - September 19th 2008

Deftones - Melanie "New Music" (Front Row View) Live @ The Ventura Theatre Sept 08' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk1VBjUqbik#)


Furthermore, here are the five " In Studio " videos ( showing them playing music and some other random things ) that were uploaded on their myspace during Eros writing process:


In Studio video 1

Deftones eros in Studio 2008 clip 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FevOsH6bQ9w#)


In Studio video 2

Deftines eros in studio 2008 Clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vtD81rcMI#)


In Studio video 3

Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk#)


In Studio video 4

Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn_OT-Jh4Y#)


In Studio video 5

Deftones-EROS-Clip 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6oYO6Vu9NM#)


Finally, here is a snippet of rehearsal of the song that you can hear in the beginning of the five in studio videos (this was uploaded on youtube long time ago, recently brought back by deftones-argentina, re-uploaded on youtube by me):


Deftones - Eros song rehearsal snippet [2007 Eros writing sessions] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FamY_kN2E4Y#ws)

Finally, on January 14th 2008, Chino posted a demo called " You've Seen The Butcher " on Deftones' MySpace. Obviously it has no link whatsoever (minus the name) with the Diamond Eyes track also named like that. Here is the demo:

Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#)

I know that most of you already know about all that stuff but I wanted to get all these things in one place.
Title: Re: Eros thread
Post by: Jacob on Mar 23, 2010, 02:02 PM
it's not too much, but if I sticky it I'll lock the other Eros thread and you may keep the discussion in this thread instead.
Title: Re: Eros thread
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 02:03 PM
EDIT: N/m.
Title: Re: Eros thread
Post by: Martin on Mar 23, 2010, 02:05 PM
Just stickied it (too I suppose?)

EDIT: add;

While I agree with not forgetting about 'Eros' and the creation of this topic with everything about it in it, I wouldn't say that, since everyone's about 'Diamond Eyes' it will be forgotten or that no-one gives a crap about 'Eros'.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 23, 2010, 02:37 PM
A friend of mine in Sacramento messaged me the following information regarding the new album, this is what he has heard about it:

"The new album will have longer songs, think 6 minutes or more, guitar solos, even more synth/keys/fx from Frank, lyrically will be more straightforward rather than cryptic, there will be more complex song structures, more guitar from chino, and faster drums (more double bass). Chi got a 6 string bass he's using on most songs and a fretless 5 string. Steph is using a new custom 8 string baritone guitar. Chino is using a lot of FX on his guitar parts so it doesn't even really sound like guitar that much.

do you loooove it?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Mar 23, 2010, 03:40 PM
where's the fake studio clip of Chino sleeping, the waking up for a sec to eat pizza before nodding back off. that was hilarious

and i do wanna hear EROS, but it's not gonna happen for a long ass time i'm afraid. there was a studio pic that look like Stef was finger tapping, that got my attention, along with the music at the start of each clip. Chino only finished half the vocals, so he won't finish those until after all their touring for DE if we're lucky, which could be close to 2 years, but he likes to chill and live a normal life after tour so he might not get to the vocals even then, and if chi's not awake they might just start another album with sergio. basically, i'm not gonna bother worrying about EROS, when i believe it at leasr 3 years away from release, if ever

i'm just really impressed they made 2 records as quick as they did, especially DE, they started it in june 09 right? and we already have it in well under a year, and it's a great album. badass. they should continue doing things that way
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jacob on Mar 23, 2010, 03:47 PM
the thing is that even if Chi has a full recovery and rejoins the band (as we all hope he does), there's no saying he would want to go back to this material. they may very well all agree to start over on something completely new with him back. the Eros material might bring back too much memories of the time of the accident or something.

I'm hopeful that we'll get a couple of the Eros songs as b-sides or bonus tracks to future releases, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Eros thread
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 03:49 PM
I wouldn't say that, since everyone's about 'Diamond Eyes' it will be forgotten or that no-one gives a crap about 'Eros'.


Agreed, but Jacob said he couldn't believe that people were still talking about Eros now that we have Diamond Eyes, that deftones fans are never satisfied, etc.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Mar 23, 2010, 03:50 PM
my guess is if they decide to never finish it they'll leak it. so it'd be like the ezrin demos
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Far away on Mar 23, 2010, 04:05 PM
the thing is that even if Chi has a full recovery and rejoins the band (as we all hope he does), there's no saying he would want to go back to this material. they may very well all agree to start over on something completely new with him back. the Eros material might bring back too much memories of the time of the accident or something.

I'm hopeful that we'll get a couple of the Eros songs as b-sides or bonus tracks to future releases, but that's about it.

this..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheShade1989 on Mar 23, 2010, 04:48 PM
I wanna hear Eros, but only because it's unheard Deftones stuff, so of course. I'm satisfied with Diamond Eyes too much to be craving new music already. I get the feeling I wont like Eros as much though. I like the whole dark/weird kind of thing, but I'm not so much into the heavier or more agressive stuff. I like it more than I used to, but still not all that much. So I'd probably only like about half the songs on it if that were the case. I think it'll be quite a long wait for Eros though.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on Mar 23, 2010, 05:31 PM
Why does Chino compare every new album to white pony? Lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 23, 2010, 05:42 PM
Why does Chino compare every new album to white pony? Lol

1.3 million copies sold in the us only. thats why. its like "buy our new record when it drops - it is as good as the one we sold the most of". he just wants anotehr cash cow


Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: E-Money on Mar 23, 2010, 05:45 PM
I'd love to hear Eros one day.  But I'd like them to wait until Chi wakes up, which I'm sure they will.  But for now Im kicking it pretty hard with Diamond Eyes.  Eros isn't even finished....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on Mar 23, 2010, 05:51 PM
He doesn't even get that much money from physical sales though.
Anyways if he wanted to sell records he should say it reminds him of nickelback or U2. They'll be fuckin huge then.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: janie13 on Mar 23, 2010, 05:52 PM
to be honest, i really don't even want to think about Eros right now, only because if i think about it then i will be waiting a long time.  i'd rather just focus on what they are doing now and i am happy with it.  

i agree with Jacob that Eros is a long way away and that maybe Chi won't want to go back to it after he makes a full recovery. i know through my own experience with working on material before an illness, that i couldn't go back to it after i got better.  it was just too much.  
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 23, 2010, 05:56 PM
He doesn't even get that much money from physical sales though.
Anyways if he wanted to sell records he should say it reminds him of nickelback or U2. They'll be fuckin huge then.

hehe right.. "hey our next album sound like lady ga ga, its good man, buy it!" anyway, it would be a stupid move to say it sounds like their most unsuccelful album like snw which sold like 4 copies. just saying
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 05:57 PM
Why does Chino compare every new album to white pony? Lol


Because White Pony is and will always be his favorite work. Even though he says that about every record he's written.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 23, 2010, 05:58 PM
to be honest, i really don't even want to think about Eros right now, only because if i think about it then i will be waiting a long time.  i'd rather just focus on what they are doing now and i am happy with it.  

i agree with Jacob that Eros is a long way away and that maybe Chi won't want to go back to it after he makes a full recovery. i know through my own experience with working on material before an illness, that i couldn't go back to it after i got better.  it was just too much.  

everyone wants something to look forward to.. and eros will get very mysterious... like an unfound treasure everybody wants...
"the chase is better than the catch" sort of
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on Mar 23, 2010, 06:00 PM
Lol i'm just saying. Have the ignorant masses buy it cuz they think it sounds like some popular artist and BAM! It's  Deftones' own sound
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: janie13 on Mar 23, 2010, 06:03 PM
to be honest, i really don't even want to think about Eros right now, only because if i think about it then i will be waiting a long time.  i'd rather just focus on what they are doing now and i am happy with it.  

i agree with Jacob that Eros is a long way away and that maybe Chi won't want to go back to it after he makes a full recovery. i know through my own experience with working on material before an illness, that i couldn't go back to it after i got better.  it was just too much.  

everyone wants something to look forward to.. and eros will get very mysterious... like an unfound treasure everybody wants...
"the chase is better than the catch" sort of

That's cute and I very much agree, however, personally, if I think about it, I'm gonna get a headache.  But that's just me.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bewareofrats on Mar 23, 2010, 06:22 PM
Why does Chino compare every new album to white pony? Lol


Because White Pony is and will always be his favorite work. Even though he says that about every record he's written.
That's just the thing. That would make sense but Chino said not too long ago that Around the Fur was his favourite, did he not?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 06:30 PM
That's just the thing. That would make sense but Chino said not too long ago that Around the Fur was his favourite, did he not?


He did. But I still think that White Pony REALLY is THE favorite of Mr. Moreno. Of course I'm not in Chino's head and can't be sure of that. But that's what I feel.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Mar 23, 2010, 06:31 PM
he usually says ATF is his fav, but he talks about wp a bit more. i think he's about equally proud of those 2. those 2 are his babies. WP was his vision, and a massively bold step, he's gotta be really proud of it
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Amoe38 on Mar 23, 2010, 06:40 PM
if SNW and Diamond Eyes were leaked, Eros is bound to slip pretty soon boys.
"Mock my words"
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on Mar 23, 2010, 06:45 PM
Yeah but those two were released and are being released. Eros hasn't been pressed and shipped out to stations or magazines for promotion.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Mar 23, 2010, 08:27 PM
if SNW and Diamond Eyes were leaked, Eros is bound to slip pretty soon boys.
"Mock my words"

Ok, I'll mock your words. Your words suck ;)

You were looking for "mark my words"
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ghettovaquero on Mar 23, 2010, 10:20 PM
I personally dont think were going to EVER hear Eros. The deftones are set to hit the road for the next couple of years in support of DE. The Eros sessions are unfinished and the release of that album was slated for a Summer 2009 release and the recording process on THAT album stopped in November when Chi's accident occured. I know for a fact the boys were going to work on up untill the holidays had this tragedy not occured and finished up by spring to have the record out by early summer. When Chi wakes up which no one knows when that will be and the Deftones finish thier world tour for this record I doubt they will want to work on or release material from 2-3 years ago. They will want to work on something new and FRESH with or without  Chi. No one knows how chi will recover from his minimally concious state. who knows if he will ever be able to play again I pray for a full recovery for him but EROS you can forget about.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on Mar 23, 2010, 10:28 PM
I'm quite sure i remember They said eros is complete. Its mixed and mastered.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 10:31 PM
I'm quite sure i remember They said eros is complete. Its mixed and mastered.


Quite sure of that, too. I could be wrong, though.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: m on Mar 23, 2010, 10:33 PM
they started mixing it in september.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Mar 23, 2010, 10:34 PM
Chino said Eros was being mixed on Myspace (Before Chi's accident) but wasn't it also stated somewhere that he was only halfway done with the vocals?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: m on Mar 23, 2010, 10:36 PM
he said that probably on noisecreep interview.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jacob on Mar 24, 2010, 12:04 AM
just watched all the clips in the first post and I can't believe I've missed those before. the drums of the song in the studio clips is very similar to Digital Bath, almost the exact same thing. that's pretty cool. overall, it does indeed sound like this would be a much heavier, darker and experimental album. it would be nice to hear.

but fuck me, I'm in love with DE :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Mar 24, 2010, 06:01 AM
That's just the thing. That would make sense but Chino said not too long ago that Around the Fur was his favourite, did he not?


He did. But I still think that White Pony REALLY is THE favorite of Mr. Moreno. Of course I'm not in Chino's head and can't be sure of that. But that's what I feel.
he said tha S/T was his favorite, S/T and ATF

and i wanna hear Eros.
I know that sooner or later we're goin to hear some material or the full album.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Mar 24, 2010, 07:00 AM
Yes i want to hear eros too!!Eros Eros Eros
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Saturday Night Whiskey999 on Mar 24, 2010, 07:06 AM
Im in love with Eros.

leaked:

Dedicado para los que estan enamorados - Eros Ramazotti (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcU0gVsqlXQ#)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Mar 24, 2010, 02:30 PM
That's just the thing. That would make sense but Chino said not too long ago that Around the Fur was his favourite, did he not?


He did. But I still think that White Pony REALLY is THE favorite of Mr. Moreno. Of course I'm not in Chino's head and can't be sure of that. But that's what I feel.
he said tha S/T was his favorite, S/T and ATF

and i wanna hear Eros.
I know that sooner or later we're goin to hear some material or the full album.
When did he say his favorite record was S/T? I've never heard that.  WP was clearly chinos record. In alot of interviews ive seen stef wouldnt write anything so chino started it. In some guitar world video or something like that stef said he was tired of starting all the songs so he let them do it.

I really want to hear Eros for one because its the last thing chi was on. And i think the guitar will probablly sound a bit more raw than on DE since thats when stef first got the  8-String. And Chi's Fat ass bass lines, which are missed on DE.  Dont get me wrong Sergio did a good job but Chi doesnt just follow what stef does he kind of does his own thing but still makes it flow. And i still think the bass lines in cherry waves are some of his most beautiful work.  I dont even know the guy but i miss him  :'(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Mar 24, 2010, 06:53 PM
he never said S/T was his fav. in fact he sorta implies he doesn't care for it much

Chi's basslines in change, cherry waves, and uuddlrlr are really cool, just to name a few. him and frank own the ezrin demos.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Slacker on Mar 24, 2010, 08:05 PM
yeah man, i not quite sure at what level the record is finished, the thing is...when you make something, and time passes on it, its imposible not to watch it with fresh new eyes, so im totally picturing "some makeovers" to the album in a near posible future, wich personally i wouldnt like. i want this shit, as raw as it is.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on Mar 24, 2010, 08:15 PM
Maybe a box set release? But then that would be a long ass time to wait.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: FeetLikeFins on Mar 24, 2010, 11:11 PM
he never said S/T was his fav. in fact he sorta implies he doesn't care for it much

I remember a 'cell-phone' interview back when they were recording where he calls it the most beautiful thing they've ever done. 

I can only assume he was high at the time.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Mar 24, 2010, 11:16 PM
he never said S/T was his fav. in fact he sorta implies he doesn't care for it much

I remember a 'cell-phone' interview back when they were recording where he calls it the most beautiful thing they've ever done. 

I can only assume he was high at the time.
high and trying to hype the album
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: FeetLikeFins on Mar 24, 2010, 11:18 PM
he never said S/T was his fav. in fact he sorta implies he doesn't care for it much

I remember a 'cell-phone' interview back when they were recording where he calls it the most beautiful thing they've ever done. 

I can only assume he was high at the time.
high and trying to hype the album
Of course.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: 976-EVIL on Mar 25, 2010, 02:41 AM
just watched all the clips in the first post and I can't believe I've missed those before. the drums of the song in the studio clips is very similar to Digital Bath, almost the exact same thing. that's pretty cool. overall, it does indeed sound like this would be a much heavier, darker and experimental album. it would be nice to hear.

but fuck me, I'm in love with DE :)

Yeah, I am with you on this Jacob. Major props to MR. V for this thread, some really good stuff here.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Mar 25, 2010, 07:03 AM
i remember reading an interview back in the S/T era (2003-2004), don't remember honestly where (maybe deftonesworld.com or something else)
chino said sth  like this: "this album (S/T) is my favorite, this one and ATF" or something like that
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Subliminal on Mar 25, 2010, 12:33 PM
he never said S/T was his fav. in fact he sorta implies he doesn't care for it much

I remember a 'cell-phone' interview back when they were recording where he calls it the most beautiful thing they've ever done. 

I can only assume he was high at the time.
high and trying to hype the album

Or it's actually what he thought at that moment in time.

Imagine when they first wrote Minerva, anyone who writes a song like that is going to be choked for a long time!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Mar 25, 2010, 12:45 PM
he only said it once from what i remember, and it was still just "tied" with ATF. he's said atf or wp is his fav tons of time. he really only tallks about those 2. i bet if you ask them now none of them put ST in their top 3 deftones albums

i'm sue he's proud of minerva. and all the albums. just more proud of WP and ATF
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Subliminal on Mar 25, 2010, 12:47 PM
he only said it once from what i remember, and it was still just "tied" with ATF. he's said atf or wp is his fav tons of time. he really only tallks about those 2. i bet if you ask them now none of them put ST in their top 3 deftones albums

Yeah, I can imagine, that album has a very dark vibe about it and they were all going through heavy shit at that time. You could see it and hear it during that period. Funnily enough that's when I became a fan, I fell in love with that album.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 25, 2010, 02:52 PM
Definitely. Stef owns the 6-string.

i agree on this,.. but in these eros videos it almost seems the 8-string owns steph.. its like this uncontrollable monster. with a life of its own.. he's like "aarrrgh its gonna kill me help mee" i like it though. heavy ass sick shit
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 02:57 PM
Definitely. The In Studio video 4 is the shit.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Mar 25, 2010, 03:13 PM
the best in studio clip was the fake one with Chino all fat eating/sleeping. i loved that. hilarious. almost as good as the hotdog pic

is it still on youtube? it is freakin GOLDEN
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 25, 2010, 03:16 PM
chino yoou rack a disciprine
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 05:21 PM
Definitely. Stef owns the 6-string.

i agree on this,.. but in these eros videos it almost seems the 8-string owns steph.. its like this uncontrollable monster. with a life of its own.. he's like "aarrrgh its gonna kill me help mee" i like it though. heavy ass sick shit


I like the 8-string and all but idc how good your producer is or the sound engineer. that shit will still sound muddy a fuck, i like it. but...
Stefs guitar on ATF Adreniline and Wp sounded like a Robot Buzzsaw trained to rid the world of virgins.
Kind of like this
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/Robobuzzsaw-1.jpg)
EDIT: So anyway after Chino was dismantled by the robo buzzsaw. They had the technology to make him faster stronger slimmer? and eros was shelved because chino said the earth and this angerd stef and this new bio-engineered Chino Went on to give one of his best vocal performances of his life. And at no time was the earth mentioned.  and this Album Was Called Diamond Eyes.
(http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx234/flea35/Diamond20Eyes_small.jpg) (http://s759.photobucket.com/albums/xx234/flea35/?action=view&current=Diamond20Eyes_small.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on Mar 25, 2010, 05:36 PM
this is the greatest picture in the world
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Mar 25, 2010, 06:21 PM
yeah yeah fuck the both of yas
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Corleone on Mar 25, 2010, 06:22 PM
LOL thats funny shit
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 06:36 PM
yeah yeah fuck the both of yas
ok its gone

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jacob on Mar 25, 2010, 06:38 PM
easy on the personal attacks.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Mar 25, 2010, 06:40 PM
Really guy?? you wanna do this, thats my fuckin wife, you twatwaffle
know what im not even gunna acknowledge your shit.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 06:48 PM
ok its gone


DUDE WTF I WAS LAUGHING MY ASS OFF.


Fucking pussies. >:(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 06:54 PM
Really guy?? you wanna do this, thats my fuckin wife, you twatwaffle
know what im not even gunna acknowledge your shit.
ok dude i just didnt appreciate the Deftones86 Suck my cock comment. So i took my shit down. except the robo buzzsaw. I think thats at least fair for the Numnuts comment.

But ohhhh shit Deftones forum drama haha
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 06:56 PM
I'm still laughing though.



" Oh look Stef I got one. "

 ;D


Seriously, this forum could be a television hit.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 07:39 PM
I'm still laughing though.



" Oh look Stef I got one. "

 ;D


Seriously, this forum could be a television hit.

Like Tones through the hour glass these are the posts of our lives.....
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/days_of_our_lives.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 07:46 PM
FUCK YEAH.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 07:53 PM
But yea seriously someone needs to pitch this idea to a network but Robo Buzzsaw has to be in it.  wouldnt be much of a program with out him.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Slacker on Mar 25, 2010, 08:01 PM
nice

edit: dude i wanna see the other part, come on.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 08:21 PM
see what the picture i took down?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Slacker on Mar 25, 2010, 08:22 PM
see what the picture i took down?

yeah come on, so i can see the full story
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 08:23 PM
Yeah come on mock his girlfriend again.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 08:25 PM
see what the picture i took down?

yeah come on, so i can see the full story

Miss swan is gone
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 08:27 PM
What about that nice little text ?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 08:29 PM
What about that nice little text ?
And now back to your happy drama free lives, but drama makes life interesting
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Slacker on Mar 25, 2010, 08:30 PM
oh fuck it, i thought it was funny like the deftones one. anyways thanks.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 08:30 PM
" That dude I mean chick "



 ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Far away on Mar 26, 2010, 12:20 AM
So what if he said that? I cant see Chino in an interview saying: "Well man, this is our worst album. Dont you buy it, its really bad".

No matter what, they will always say that just because they always try new stuff in every new record. Thats why they make sure to say in every new record that they didnt want to make another WP or whatever they already created.

And S/T its a fucking huge record.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Far away on Mar 26, 2010, 12:40 AM
ops double post
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: yeah on Mar 26, 2010, 08:03 PM
\viewing these clips now, I remember that time checking their blogspot blog a couple times a day, waiting for the record, deftones' site with Eros: ...ember 2008 or Winter 2009 posters on it
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Far away on Mar 26, 2010, 11:51 PM
I'm still laughing though.



" Oh look Stef I got one. "

 ;D


Seriously, this forum could be a television hit.

Like Tones through the hour glass these are the posts of our lives.....
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/days_of_our_lives.jpg)

you're the fucking man
no shit
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Mar 28, 2010, 12:32 AM
Definitely. Stef owns the 6-string.

i agree on this,.. but in these eros videos it almost seems the 8-string owns steph.. its like this uncontrollable monster. with a life of its own.. he's like "aarrrgh its gonna kill me help mee" i like it though. heavy ass sick shit


I like the 8-string and all but idc how good your producer is or the sound engineer. that shit will still sound muddy a fuck, i like it. but...
Stefs guitar on ATF Adreniline and Wp sounded like a Robot Buzzsaw trained to rid the world of virgins.
Kind of like this
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/Robobuzzsaw-1.jpg)
EDIT: So anyway after Chino was dismantled by the robo buzzsaw. They had the technology to make him faster stronger slimmer? and eros was shelved because chino said the earth and this angerd stef and this new bio-engineered Chino Went on to give one of his best vocal performances of his life. And at no time was the earth mentioned.  and this Album Was Called Diamond Eyes.
(http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx234/flea35/Diamond20Eyes_small.jpg) (http://s759.photobucket.com/albums/xx234/flea35/?action=view&current=Diamond20Eyes_small.jpg)
LMFAO!!! for sure!! hahaha

een when i didn't see the final part haha, that was awesome hahah... look, Stef harharhar!!!!!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Mar 28, 2010, 01:03 AM
"Chino Went on to give one of his best vocal performances of his life. And at no time was the earth mentioned.  and this Album Was Called Diamond Eyes."


hahahahahaha, I love that part, this little story will be the Forum-s highlight of the year. And the picture of chino singing The earth...man, that one must have been taken while playing kim dracula.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Mar 28, 2010, 01:22 AM
He says Earth in CMND/CTRL.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Mar 28, 2010, 03:07 AM
He says Earth in CMND/CTRL.
haha he snuck it in there. he can't help himself
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: 976-EVIL on Mar 28, 2010, 08:06 AM
Yeah Chino is quite elemental. Earth Water Sky Space and Sex. ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Mar 28, 2010, 09:52 AM
He says Earth in CMND/CTRL.

Well fuck. dont tell stef. you know what happens.....
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/Stef2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: godin on Mar 28, 2010, 10:03 AM
guitars dont sound muddy on DE they sound huge
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Mar 28, 2010, 10:59 AM
guitars dont sound muddy on DE they sound huge

Agreed. SNW's sound was so terrible compared to this album.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: this pollution on Mar 28, 2010, 10:41 PM
guitars dont sound muddy on DE they sound huge

Agreed. SNW's sound was so terrible compared to this album.

i agree and disagree. i think the guitars sound good most the time but on songs like prince there's a noticeable difference in quality, the chorus sounds very muddy. snw was produced pretty well, i think.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 29, 2010, 12:33 AM
the best in studio clip was the fake one with Chino all fat eating/sleeping. i loved that. hilarious. almost as good as the hotdog pic

is it still on youtube? it is freakin GOLDEN

cool that was actually me, i dont have it anymore, took it off cause i dunno, but it makes me laugh thinking about when i made it. remember i put 'hooked on a feeling' on background while i lay down on a carpet with some snack in my hand and a pillow stuffed onder my t-shirt, making snoring noises. does someone have it maybe?

i also made an in sync mesh up of Mein and Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up.. also lost in space now..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Mar 29, 2010, 12:41 AM
that was you. bravo man, that was pure GOLD. you shouldn't have taken those down, they were classics. everyone loved them  :(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 29, 2010, 12:50 AM
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=50389775 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=50389775)

lol yeah i remember now i found it again one day on myspace vids. at least this one.

i made it simply with Windows Movie Maker so transitions arent all perfect, though i find that shitty editing actually makes it even better hehe
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: gunsrazorsknives on Mar 29, 2010, 01:04 AM
I am excited about Eros. Might be the last work we get to hear of Chi  :( ( I hope not ) The album art for the deftones website at the time was bad ass!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kameron632 on Mar 29, 2010, 05:17 AM
The intro on those Eros videos is Beauty School!
WTF?!
I thought they wrote a whole "new" record...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: E-Money on Mar 29, 2010, 05:37 AM
The intro on those Eros videos is Beauty School!
WTF?!
I thought they wrote a whole "new" record...

No dude, the intro to the in-studio clips is not Beauty School.  Thats Eros material, which is completely different.   
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: gunsrazorsknives on Mar 29, 2010, 05:39 AM
The intro on those Eros videos is Beauty School!
WTF?!
I thought they wrote a whole "new" record...

No dude, the intro to the in-studio clips is not Beauty School.  Thats Eros material, which is completely different.   

It does resemble it very much
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: NicholasHume on Mar 29, 2010, 07:00 AM
The intro on those Eros videos is Beauty School!
WTF?!
I thought they wrote a whole "new" record...

No dude, the intro to the in-studio clips is not Beauty School.  Thats Eros material, which is completely different.  

It does resemble it very much

Agreed, and I hope that because of the similarity (seemingly) that the riff wouldn't be used.
I'm confident that I'll love anything that the Deftones release (or leak) as long as they don't repeat themselves.
(Plus, generally speaking, when the sound is heavier, the songs are better  ;)).
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: NicholasHume on Mar 29, 2010, 07:10 AM
*Fucked up, blame the weed.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Mar 30, 2010, 06:12 AM
That clip number 2 is just.....FUCK Is amazing LMAO !!!!!! I want Frank to use those fucking samplings !!!!!!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: theshadeisatool on Mar 30, 2010, 01:36 PM
It would be nice to see to what degree or not Eros is the link or a progression between SNW and Diamond Eyes, given that the sound on the two are quite far apart.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Far away on Mar 31, 2010, 12:33 AM
guitars dont sound muddy on DE they sound huge

Agreed. SNW's sound was so terrible compared to this album.

+1000000000000
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Apr 05, 2010, 12:26 AM
I wish Chino does a collab with Grady Avenell from Will Haven, when they get back to complete the sessions. As far I know, Chino has to complete the vocals
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Bergerac on Apr 05, 2010, 12:47 AM
Theory:

I don't believe Eros really exists outside of a few left over songs that WEREN'T reworked onto Diamond Eyes, like the music on the videos which was very likely an early Beauty School. Melanie is one of those few songs that didn't make it. It will be one of the B Sides Lopez was talking about. Eros likely doesn't exist anymore.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 05, 2010, 12:50 AM
Theory:

I don't believe Eros really exists outside of a few left over songs that WEREN'T reworked onto Diamond Eyes, like the music on the videos which was very likely an early Beauty School. Melanie is one of those few songs that didn't make it. It will be one of the B Sides Lopez was talking about. Eros likely doesn't exist anymore.


I'm going to call... THE RAPEMAAAAN.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Bergerac on Apr 05, 2010, 12:51 AM
I took Rapeman's mask after I raped him.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteenpeoplesnames on Apr 05, 2010, 01:03 AM
I thought Chino said they're going to release it one day? If so, then it must be sort of complete, surely?
Title: Eros
Post by: snw9 on Apr 05, 2010, 01:30 AM
Theory:

I don't believe Eros really exists outside of a few left over songs that WEREN'T reworked onto Diamond Eyes, like the music on the videos which was very likely an early Beauty School. Melanie is one of those few songs that didn't make it. It will be one of the B Sides Lopez was talking about. Eros likely doesn't exist anymore.


If melanie is one of them, that would be sweet
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Robotsatemygrandma on Apr 05, 2010, 03:26 AM
This whole Eros thing has me thinking...

Maybe the reason we won't hear it is because Chi recorded on it and he needs to fill out some paperwork, like release forms, contracts, and whatever else. Basically legal issues.

I would love to hear it, not only because it's unreleased Deftones material but because Chi played on it. And if I remember right he had written some stuff for it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Apr 09, 2010, 02:19 PM
This whole Eros thing has me thinking...

Maybe the reason we won't hear it is because Chi recorded on it and he needs to fill out some paperwork, like release forms, contracts, and whatever else. Basically legal issues.

I would love to hear it, not only because it's unreleased Deftones material but because Chi played on it. And if I remember right he had written some stuff for it.

Well in case of an accident someone has the power to sign legal documents in chi's name. I think that the band just didnt want to play those songs live because of the memories attached to them.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Apr 10, 2010, 02:38 AM
This whole Eros thing has me thinking...

Maybe the reason we won't hear it is because Chi recorded on it and he needs to fill out some paperwork, like release forms, contracts, and whatever else. Basically legal issues.

I would love to hear it, not only because it's unreleased Deftones material but because Chi played on it. And if I remember right he had written some stuff for it.

I think it's more that they want to release and tour Eros with him.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Subliminal on Apr 11, 2010, 01:27 AM
This whole Eros thing has me thinking...

Maybe the reason we won't hear it is because Chi recorded on it and he needs to fill out some paperwork, like release forms, contracts, and whatever else. Basically legal issues.

I would love to hear it, not only because it's unreleased Deftones material but because Chi played on it. And if I remember right he had written some stuff for it.

I think it's more that they want to release and tour Eros with him.

I agree, imagine if he woke up to find Eros had been released, was their biggest album and toured places they'd never been before because of it. I'm sure he'd be disheartened. That's there brother, they ain't gonna let that happen.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Apr 11, 2010, 07:03 AM
just to say:
i've just watched the eros in studio clips (just have seen the one of abe and the one of stef) and the music they're playing seems pretty amazing... i hope they won't forget this album and will release it one day.

btw... just curios to see chi playing bass with a pick haha... (video 3 or 4, don't remember which one)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 19, 2010, 09:56 PM
Theory:

I don't believe Eros really exists outside of a few left over songs that WEREN'T reworked onto Diamond Eyes, like the music on the videos which was very likely an early Beauty School. Melanie is one of those few songs that didn't make it. It will be one of the B Sides Lopez was talking about. Eros likely doesn't exist anymore.

great possibility. in this interview, that has been posted before, in 3:22 chino says "we have another VERSION of the record..."
when he speaks about DE. sure, he talks a lot and maybe he just formulates it wrong, but seems to me he slips

Deftones Interview '09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTcw_nWmSs4#ws)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wax on Apr 20, 2010, 03:26 AM


Deftones Interview '09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTcw_nWmSs4#ws)
;D so much tension to watch...what's going through the minds of others when someone is speaking....

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wondermixx on Apr 20, 2010, 08:48 AM
man, why do they always look bored when they're giving interview, like "fuuck lets get this over with!"
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Wax And Wane on Apr 20, 2010, 08:11 PM
man, why do they always look bored when they're giving interview, like "fuuck lets get this over with!"
They probably (Like most touring bands) Do MANY of those a day. Would for sure just bug you after a while. Same questions. Same answers.  8)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wax on Apr 23, 2010, 07:41 AM
according to this eros will be releases later in the year    right or wrong? who knows      http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gvfexqugldje~T1 (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gvfexqugldje~T1)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on Apr 23, 2010, 07:57 AM
Won't believe till they officially say it. Besides that interview with Sergio said that Eros has been shelved indefinitely so a release this year is far fetched
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Subliminal on Apr 24, 2010, 12:20 PM
man, why do they always look bored when they're giving interview, like "fuuck lets get this over with!"
They probably (Like most touring bands) Do MANY of those a day. Would for sure just bug you after a while. Same questions. Same answers.  8)

Yeah man, it's hard to find any band who is actually enthusiastic in interviews. Same old shitty questions, same old answers.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 24, 2010, 12:29 PM
man, why do they always look bored when they're giving interview, like "fuuck lets get this over with!"
They probably (Like most touring bands) Do MANY of those a day. Would for sure just bug you after a while. Same questions. Same answers.  8)

Yeah man, it's hard to find any band who is actually enthusiastic in interviews

think it has to do a lot with time.new upcoming bands are enthusiastic in the beginning. deftones for example were often very enthusiastic in interviews,especially around the atf era. lots of more energy, on stage, and off stage
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 24, 2010, 12:31 PM
think it has to do a lot with time.new upcoming bands are enthusiastic in the beginning. deftones for example were often very enthusiastic in interviews,especially around the atf era


Yeah, really, he was gesticulating everywhere explaining what he felt about Around the fur. Now, he's all like: " Haaa, fuck, let's keep gentle until it's over... "
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 24, 2010, 12:33 PM
think it has to do a lot with time.new upcoming bands are enthusiastic in the beginning. deftones for example were often very enthusiastic in interviews,especially around the atf era


Yeah, really, he was gesticulating everywhere explaining what he felt about Around the fur. Now, he's all like: " Haaa, fuck, let's keep gentle until it's over... "

yeah he had a spark in his eye back then
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 24, 2010, 12:34 PM
Haha, yeah, exactly.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Martin on May 06, 2010, 11:54 AM
I wish Chino does a collab with Grady Avenell from Will Haven, when they get back to complete the sessions. As far I know, Chino has to complete the vocals

Indeed! And while they are at it; record one Deftones and a Will Haven track together :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: White Wrist on May 06, 2010, 12:39 PM
i just saw all the "deftones in studio" videos...they sound awesome.

I have a feeling that Eros is a great album.

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: mikemerrett on May 07, 2010, 11:15 AM
There is something about Eros that is keeping we waiting. I love Diamond eyes but am already excited and eagerly awaitng their next release.

Every album is great in its own way but I think Eros is going to have something immence to give. Even the name of the album sounds really interesting. Hopefully Chi is on his feet and back on bass and they can get this album pushed out for next year maybe? 8)


Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Moz on May 07, 2010, 01:02 PM
There is something about Eros that is keeping we waiting. I love Diamond eyes but am already excited and eagerly awaitng their next release.

Every album is great in its own way but I think Eros is going to have something immence to give. Even the name of the album sounds really interesting. Hopefully Chi is on his feet and back on bass and they can get this album pushed out for next year maybe? 8)




yea keep on dreaming
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: mikemerrett on May 07, 2010, 02:20 PM
That is probably a bit optimistic. Hopefully it wont be to long a wait. .
There is something about Eros that is keeping we waiting. I love Diamond eyes but am already excited and eagerly awaitng their next release.

Every album is great in its own way but I think Eros is going to have something immence to give. Even the name of the album sounds really interesting. Hopefully Chi is on his feet and back on bass and they can get this album pushed out for next year maybe? 8)




yea keep on dreaming
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 07, 2010, 09:02 PM
That is probably a bit optimistic naive
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: cnr~ on May 08, 2010, 05:41 PM
Well in one of the recent interviews chino said how they've still got a few albums to produce for their current deal, i doubt they'll shelve a whole album and make a bunch of others..they'll definitely use Eros as one of the releases.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 08, 2010, 07:38 PM
in the ultimate guitar interview:

"Do you think there were any ideas that appeared on Eros that sort of got refined or morphed into [Diamond Eyes?]"

Chino: I don’t know; not really. For some reason it’s just a different record you know what I mean?

wait what...  "i dont know"?   "for some reason its different"?

why isnt the answer "no completley different songs"? its like a lot of eros was transformed. more so than they like to admit. and in the previous page there's chino saying "there is another version of the record" when speaking of eros.  

and when chino spoke about the leak of diamond eyes in kerrang he said "wow I worked on this for three years, pretty much, and in three minutes some one can just download it for free"

three years? really? that was in 2007 when they started working on eros.

no wonder they made diamond eyes so fast?

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jacob on May 08, 2010, 08:22 PM
wouldn't surprise me one bit if they scrapped the Eros songs and used some of the parts for DE. one of the reasons I'm not one of those going on about how much I hope/believe Eros will one day be released. but the amount of material that was actually used is anyone's guess. and personally, I don't think it's that much, only a riff here and there that were reworked.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 08, 2010, 08:59 PM
at first i thought of eros as a totally different record of its own.i mean,thats what they said during the end of making diamond eyes.
but when i heard beauty school it reminded me so much of the eros clip that i thought well maybe they used some eros material on d.e... if it happened once,then why not twice?
and as time goes by and deftones speak more and more of eros, their answers more and more seem to support the theory of of diamond eyes being reworked eros material.

i think several eros songs do exist that arent on de, but eros almost seem like a demo to diamond eyes.
i mean the snw demo had 6 songs on the actual snw record.6 out of 15 demo songs ended on the final product which mean plenty of stuff was dumped.something like that may be the case here too.eros being dumped demos
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 09, 2010, 11:16 AM
But I'm pretty sure that they didn't take any of the work from Eros to put on Diamond Eyes.

then why all the vague answers?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on May 09, 2010, 11:19 AM
But I'm pretty sure that they didn't take any of the work from Eros to put on Diamond Eyes.

then why all the vague answers?


That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the reason.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rainnyx4 on May 09, 2010, 11:25 AM
I really don't think anything from Eros was redone for DE.  From the sound of it, Eros was pretty much done except for Chino finishing his lyrics.

They also keep saying they'll release it some day to benefit Chi.

And if you think Beauty School is a redone version of the song from the Eros videos, you got shit in your ears.  The two sound nothing alike apart from the spacey vibe.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 09, 2010, 11:25 AM
But I'm pretty sure that they didn't take any of the work from Eros to put on Diamond Eyes.

then why all the vague answers?

That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the reason.

ok so if chino got asked if lady ga ga helped out with the song writings on some of the songs, chino could just as possibly give these indefinite answers on that question too?

chino would be like "lady ga ga? i dont know,not really... for some reasons she didnt help out you know"
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 09, 2010, 11:30 AM
And if you think Beauty School is a redone version of the song from the Eros videos, you got shit in your ears.  

i do think its a redone version. and some others do

Beauty school is the same intro as the Eros session teaser clips we all loved.

Shit, didn't even notice but you're right.

like the music on the videos which was very likely an early Beauty School.

Quote from: darksoul on Mar 20, 2010, 12:28 AM
isnt beauty  school the song that was on the deftones eros sniptes ?


maybe we should clean our ears who knows, but at least we got ears to begin with  ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on May 09, 2010, 11:38 AM
ok so if chino got asked if lady ga ga helped out with the song writings on some of the songs, chino could just as possibly give these indefinite answers on that question too?

chino would be like "lady ga ga? i dont know,not really... for some reasons she didnt help out you know"


Look, until we have Eros, you and I can't be sure. As I said, I could be wrong, I wouldn't shit a clock if I were wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's not the same song and I probably won't change my mind before we have the answer.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteen on May 09, 2010, 11:46 AM
It doesn't sound like it from what I hear.  Maybe the same sort of vibe and tempo but I personally can't see how that would morph into Beauty School.

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 09, 2010, 11:51 AM
ok so if chino got asked if lady ga ga helped out with the song writings on some of the songs, chino could just as possibly give these indefinite answers on that question too?

chino would be like "lady ga ga? i dont know,not really... for some reasons she didnt help out you know"


Look, until we have Eros, you and I can't be sure. As I said, I could be wrong, I wouldn't shit a clock if I were wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's not the same song and I probably won't change my mind before we have the answer.

yeah but the thing is, if they go back to the eros sessions again, they will probably rework that material too, dont you think? especially if some songs or riffs were used on d.e
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 09, 2010, 12:37 PM
It doesn't sound like it from what I hear.  Maybe the same sort of vibe and tempo but I personally can't see how that would morph into Beauty School.

if beauty school would be where its at on the record....  and then if this eros clip would be extended as a song of its own and then would be in,lets say sextape's place on the album, theni assure you everyone would be like " ::) are they serious? they're too much alike! hell is the same fucking song! " everyone would give deftones a lot of shit for it. i just see the sl reactions infront of me
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nyquil_addict133 on May 11, 2010, 08:11 AM
JESUS is making a convincing case here. I pray that he is wrong.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on May 11, 2010, 08:14 AM
I pray that he is wrong.
+ 1000
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nyquil_addict133 on May 11, 2010, 08:37 AM
I just know in 2 years Eros will be 5 years old and they'll want to work on something new. They could continue Eros into a double album, if the new material is different then which album do they tour for? Release them on the same day or 3 months apart.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SX King on May 11, 2010, 09:05 AM
in the ultimate guitar interview:

"Do you think there were any ideas that appeared on Eros that sort of got refined or morphed into [Diamond Eyes?]"

Chino: I don’t know; not really. For some reason it’s just a different record you know what I mean?

wait what...  "i dont know"?   "for some reason its different"?

why isnt the answer "no completley different songs"? its like a lot of eros was transformed. more so than they like to admit. and in the previous page there's chino saying "there is another version of the record" when speaking of eros. 

and when chino spoke about the leak of diamond eyes in kerrang he said "wow I worked on this for three years, pretty much, and in three minutes some one can just download it for free"

three years? really? that was in 2007 when they started working on eros.

no wonder they made diamond eyes so fast?



Dude i wasnt thinking the exact same shit
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on May 11, 2010, 09:22 AM
Damn.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteen on May 11, 2010, 09:57 AM
They may issue the album without touring behind it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nyquil_addict133 on May 11, 2010, 10:08 AM
after the letdown of DE I've romanticised Eros. There is a mysticism to the mysterious record that fascinates. I wish they'd just slapped the name Eros onto DE and said it was the same record to spare me the obsession. I know they don't want to release it until Chi wakes up, but if Chi has taught us a lesson, it is that life is short... and that they should release the record now.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: theshadeisatool on May 11, 2010, 12:08 PM
They may issue the album without touring behind it.

Surely that would be the best way forward. With the apparent success of DE, they might make a few off a download only release of Eros (to avoid overheads) that could go towards Chi's family/his recovery. They wouldn't have to play those songs live, and we probably wouldn't expect them to, given the circumstances.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on May 11, 2010, 05:50 PM
They may issue the album without touring behind it.

Surely that would be the best way forward. With the apparent success of DE, they might make a few off a download only release of Eros (to avoid overheads) that could go towards Chi's family/his recovery. They wouldn't have to play those songs live, and we probably wouldn't expect them to, given the circumstances.

in my opinion they just plain would NOT tour this album without chi. i think it'd add a whole mystique to the album if they never toured it and just everything that has happened with it so far. basically you guys have the right idea. release it with proceeds going to chi and his family and don't tour any of the material. i think everyone would rather wait it out with chi though. it'd be a great little celebration item if/when he recovers.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: mikemerrett on May 11, 2010, 10:33 PM
They may issue the album without touring behind it.

Surely that would be the best way forward. With the apparent success of DE, they might make a few off a download only release of Eros (to avoid overheads) that could go towards Chi's family/his recovery. They wouldn't have to play those songs live, and we probably wouldn't expect them to, given the circumstances.

in my opinion they just plain would NOT tour this album without chi. i think it'd add a whole mystique to the album if they never toured it and just everything that has happened with it so far. basically you guys have the right idea. release it with proceeds going to chi and his family and don't tour any of the material. i think everyone would rather wait it out with chi though. it'd be a great little celebration item if/when he recovers.



I second that. Chi is missing out on all that involed with the new deftones release. Wait until he's fully recovered so he can be a part of it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on May 12, 2010, 12:30 AM
They may issue the album without touring behind it.

Surely that would be the best way forward. With the apparent success of DE, they might make a few off a download only release of Eros (to avoid overheads) that could go towards Chi's family/his recovery. They wouldn't have to play those songs live, and we probably wouldn't expect them to, given the circumstances.

in my opinion they just plain would NOT tour this album without chi. i think it'd add a whole mystique to the album if they never toured it and just everything that has happened with it so far. basically you guys have the right idea. release it with proceeds going to chi and his family and don't tour any of the material. i think everyone would rather wait it out with chi though. it'd be a great little celebration item if/when he recovers.

Despite Agreeing with you, i suppose if Chi recovers they would much preffer creating a new record and not finishing the one that was shelved some years ago. An important principle for deftones's art is to capture the beauty of a moment and then go on. I hope my idea was clear.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Wax And Wane on May 12, 2010, 02:08 AM
It will come out someday.... No doubt on that. worst case played out. The record company will release it after the Deftones call it quits (Which I pray does NOT ever happen) But I think they will release it at that point if the Tones decide not to while they are together, Just to earn a couple extra bucks off the band. What would be awesome is to make it a download/donate thing on line for Chi.  ;D Just my two cents (Prob worth half a penny)  ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wax on May 12, 2010, 03:57 AM
It will come out someday....
  in this day and age im surprised the damn thing hasnt leaked somehow already....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on May 12, 2010, 04:00 AM
well the vocals aren't done so that's my main suspicion in why it may not come out. but if it comes out i doubt it'd be before chi recovers and it's up in the air if (god forbid) chi doesn't recover.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on May 12, 2010, 04:20 AM
i'm liking the idea of making it a downloadable thing with proceeds going for Chi.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wax on May 12, 2010, 04:31 AM
i'm liking the idea of making it a downloadable thing with proceeds going for Chi.
bravo     and what better time than now to do so on the strength of releasing de   id dl it and be happy that my $ was going to a good cause
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kleptoned on May 12, 2010, 04:47 AM
i'm liking the idea of making it a downloadable thing with proceeds going for Chi.
bravo     and what better time than now to do so on the strength of releasing de   id dl it and be happy that my $ was going to a good cause
it would still leak an only true fans would actually pay for it...shame:-(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on May 12, 2010, 04:59 AM
i'm liking the idea of making it a downloadable thing with proceeds going for Chi.
bravo     and what better time than now to do so on the strength of releasing de   id dl it and be happy that my $ was going to a good cause
it would still leak an only true fans would actually pay for it...shame:-(
it would happen if it's released as digital or physical too... only true fans will pay for it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bewareofrats on May 12, 2010, 01:09 PM
The problem I see is (as has been said) that the vocals aren't finished. I think Chino said he's only half done and I can't see him going back to finish vocals for this record. So either they release half of Eros which would be retarded or not release anything. I am all for the idea of them releasing it sooner rather than later as a digital download only with the proceeds going to Chi and I would have a decent feeling it could come out this year even if it just wasn't for the vocals not being finished. Dang.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Wax And Wane on May 12, 2010, 07:53 PM
i'm liking the idea of making it a downloadable thing with proceeds going for Chi.
bravo     and what better time than now to do so on the strength of releasing de   id dl it and be happy that my $ was going to a good cause
it would still leak an only true fans would actually pay for it...shame:-(
it would happen if it's released as digital or physical too... only true fans will pay for it.
I know I'd pay for it..... You could always have a set price then add like an extra amount of what ever you wanted to pay (Or didn't want to pay) Like an extra donation. But despite anything I think the album ios further along then we think. They were saying a winter releas in 2009 and that wasn't long after Chi got in the wreck. But despite anything I hope Chi Does get on his feet and come back.... But if not it would be stupid for them not to release it to help with all his medical stuff.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: blindead on May 13, 2010, 10:26 PM
There's a rather lenghty interview with Deftones (mainly Chino and a little Abe) in the latest issue of Sweden's biggest metal/rock magazine Close-Up. It might all be horse-shit but this is what Chino said talking about shelving Eros. It's written in swedish so i'll try and translate it back to english:

"It wouldn't have been therapeutic if we would have began looking for a new bass-player, who could begin to learn the material we had just written and recorded together with Chi. For us it was about going in there, being creative and bury our heads in something completely new, rather than dwell on something we linked to Chi, together with our shock and loss. It was sort of a productive escapism for us, an escape from a very difficult time."

If this is true and not dreamed up, then I guess Eros is not equal Diamond Eyes demos. I sure hope so!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on May 14, 2010, 05:13 PM
yeah we know.Diamond Eyes is all new material. watch the ultimate-guitar interview. people ask if the song used in the preview videos is an early beauty school and i say it's not. it's certainly similar but they've been asked directly many times if any eros material eventually became diamond eyes material. every time they have said NO it's all brand spanking new material. i guess we'll see eros when we see it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 14, 2010, 07:46 PM
they've been asked directly many times if any eros material eventually became diamond eyes material. every time they have said NO it's all brand spanking new material.

except those times he didnt seem so sure (reply #129) http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html)

if its ALL new on d.e, do you have any clue why he leaves all those uncertin answers?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on May 14, 2010, 09:16 PM
they've been asked directly many times if any eros material eventually became diamond eyes material. every time they have said NO it's all brand spanking new material.

except those times he didnt seem so sure (reply #129) http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html)

if its ALL new on d.e, do you have any clue why he leaves all those uncertin answers?

cuz it's chino. he never gives a straight answer. and besides maybe he does that shit to fuck with our heads here on SL
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 14, 2010, 10:03 PM
if chino ever asks me something i will give him a vauge answer. just so he knows how it feels
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wax on May 14, 2010, 11:12 PM
they've been asked directly many times if any eros material eventually became diamond eyes material. every time they have said NO it's all brand spanking new material.

except those times he didnt seem so sure (reply #129) http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html)

if its ALL new on d.e, do you have any clue why he leaves all those uncertin answers?

also...theres a reason why the word lying exists.....   who knows if any of it got used or not    im sure if it did thats not exactly something to admit to.... nah mean?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteen on May 14, 2010, 11:29 PM
They should release it as a celebration when Chi wakes up fully or something.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheShade1989 on May 15, 2010, 04:15 AM
Ah, I dont believe that Diamond Eyes has a lotta material frm Eros on it. It's like they said, they made that album based on where they were at the time, how they were feeling, etc. Then things changed. Why would they keep a lot of it just for the sake of making a new album at a different time in their lives? I dont think they would. But noone knows for sure except those involved.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nyquil_addict133 on May 15, 2010, 09:06 PM
They should release it as a celebration when Chi wakes up fully or something.

Or release it as a celebration of 1 yr. 7 mos. of succesful stabilization.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 16, 2010, 08:18 PM
also...theres a reason why the word lying exists.....   who knows if any of it got used or not    im sure if it did thats not exactly something to admit to.... nah mean?

yeah if eros with terry was too weird for the masses, and the label suggested that they rewrote it with another producer (nick) to make it more catchy and mainstream, they would never ever admit it
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 16, 2010, 08:20 PM
about eros:

"Speaking about Deftones' newest album, Eros, lead singer Chino Moreno said, "The songs are definitely weird, which is a breath of fresh air to me. I haven't been playing guitar on these new songs so Steph [Carpenter] has taken up the helm and that's worked out really well. He's been very creative has been writing very weird, melodic stuff"

if any eros song, besides the other version of beauty school, turned up on d.e i would guess "youve seen the butcher".
its a bit weird and the guitar playing is clearly more melodic than usual steph riffin.speaking of the chorus.

thats just a guess thou, so dont trip :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on May 22, 2010, 04:48 AM
stephen seems pretty confident that once they finish it and give it to the label it'll leak.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on May 23, 2010, 10:17 PM
i just want to hear melanie
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: White Wrist on May 25, 2010, 01:21 PM
Eros is going to be THE record
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on May 26, 2010, 03:32 AM
i just want to hear melanie

it's in the middle of SNW, track 8 I think.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on May 26, 2010, 03:40 AM
Eros is going to be THE record

no way it can live up to it's hype. also if the band just rewrote the material i also think they wouldn't say they plan on releasing it. seems like shooting themselves in the foot a bit.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Jun 01, 2010, 04:16 AM
i just want to hear melanie

it's in the middle of SNW, track 8 I think.
no fucking way, me thinks
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jun 06, 2010, 03:57 AM
i just want to hear melanie

it's in the middle of SNW, track 8 I think.

its just not the same man.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jun 06, 2010, 11:08 PM
its time to bring back a female vocalist to make a guest appearance on the album
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Jun 07, 2010, 05:17 AM
it would be awesome, specially if is someone like Björk...
i was thinking on what artists would be cool to hear with Deftones, but thought about it carefully since whe all know what happened with Serj...
i would LOVE if there is a guest appearance from Grady (Will Haven), Thom Yorke (Radiohead), Greg Puciato (DEP), Björk...
or some others that some of you may find interesting..
i wanna hear Eros so much.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 07, 2010, 05:18 AM
Serj's part was so lazy that even 2006's Chino could sing it and that's saying something.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Jun 07, 2010, 05:27 AM
yeah, that's something...
also they could do some good things with Trent Reznor, or the guy from Thrice
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Jun 07, 2010, 06:11 AM
Rick Astley imagine the possibilites
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 07, 2010, 06:12 AM
Susan Boyle, man.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SX King on Jun 07, 2010, 06:17 AM
Susan Boyle, man.

Lmfao i dont even know what 2 say to that.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 08, 2010, 10:09 PM
What if all that mystery behind Eros were just a marketing strategy ?


Naaah, I'm being silly but damn, that would be a hell of a good idea.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wax on Jun 08, 2010, 10:20 PM
What if all that mystery behind Eros were just a marketing strategy ?


Naaah, I'm being silly but damn, that would be a hell of a good idea.

marketing strategy in what way? just to hype the band more?  ?? personally id be pissed if some band was lying about an album they made and kept saying it might be released and never was.   not a good marketing strategy idea to me
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 08, 2010, 10:23 PM
Well because now everybody wants to hear Eros like reaaaally bad, that's the goal in a music marketing strategy. I meant " it's a good idea " because it would have worked out really if it really were a strategy, but it sucks on the moral point.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Jun 08, 2010, 10:27 PM
i was thinking the same too. but its really a good idea if the truth isnt reveal
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jacob on Jun 08, 2010, 10:33 PM
so now this has actually turned into a conspiracy theory? wow.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wax on Jun 08, 2010, 10:34 PM
Well because now everybody wants to hear Eros like reaaaally bad, that's the goal in a music marketing strategy. I meant " it's a good idea " because it would have worked out really if it really were a strategy, but it sucks on the moral point.

hmmm...i dont know how much more people would want to hear an album this proposed way vs. just wanting to hear a new album they know is coming out for sure.  unless it wasnt released for a LONG time in which case wouldnt even make sense....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 08, 2010, 10:50 PM
I said: " If that were true, that would be a subtle hit in the game. "

Of course i know it's not a marketing strategy.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jun 13, 2010, 01:30 AM
What if all that mystery behind Eros were just a marketing strategy ?


Naaah, I'm being silly but damn, that would be a hell of a good idea.

what if Eros= Diamond Eyes to throw us off?? lol jk
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jun 13, 2010, 01:32 AM
it would be awesome, specially if is someone like Björk...
i was thinking on what artists would be cool to hear with Deftones, but thought about it carefully since whe all know what happened with Serj...
i would LOVE if there is a guest appearance from Grady (Will Haven), Thom Yorke (Radiohead), Greg Puciato (DEP), Björk...
or some others that some of you may find interesting..
i wanna hear Eros so much.

I was thinkin Cristina from Lacuna coil. i think her voice on a slow tempo team sleepish song or a fast song would go amazing with chino collaborating 
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Jun 13, 2010, 08:03 PM
I also was thinking, a song kinda Moving to Montana or Finest Hour with Will Haven's vocalist, Grady, would make a pretty good song, something similar to Passenger with Maynard.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: yourwaves on Jun 22, 2010, 04:55 PM
does anyone really know how dark and atmospheric eros is? Like is it some real dark shit? the way they make it sound everyone must have been up at two in the morning shooting heroin or tripping on xelant. okay maybe that all stems from my imagination...i just want to float here forever
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheShade1989 on Jun 22, 2010, 07:01 PM
does anyone really know how dark and atmospheric eros is? Like is it some real dark shit? the way they make it sound everyone must have been up at two in the morning shooting heroin or tripping on xelant. okay maybe that all stems from my imagination...i just want to float here forever

Haha. I dont think it was quite so inspired by that, but that's how they make it sound. I like that dark kinda ethereal stuff, but they said it was weird, so I dont know, I think it'd be...a lot different frm their other stuff. Again.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 22, 2010, 07:05 PM
does anyone really know how dark and atmospheric eros is? Like is it some real dark shit? the way they make it sound everyone must have been up at two in the morning shooting heroin or tripping on xelant. okay maybe that all stems from my imagination...i just want to float here forever


Whatever you smoke, I want to try it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: yourwaves on Jun 22, 2010, 09:39 PM
haha i wasnt blazed but i am quite intrigued about the way they make eros sound i think since everyone was all in turmoil and i think chino started hitting the booger sugar lol i had to say it myself everyone else does...but u know it was dark time.. in my mind eros sounds more like tool u kno the anema period and a little of lateralus... and wings for marie killer song... maybe a little bit of apc too.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheShade1989 on Jun 22, 2010, 11:27 PM
haha i wasnt blazed but i am quite intrigued about the way they make eros sound i think since everyone was all in turmoil and i think chino started hitting the booger sugar lol i had to say it myself everyone else does...but u know it was dark time.. in my mind eros sounds more like tool u kno the anema period and a little of lateralus... and wings for marie killer song... maybe a little bit of apc too.

Was he still doing coke then? Ah, either way...I love that whole dark and slightly depressing kind of music. Deftones does it well, and they make their dark-sounding music really haunting and I love that. But yeah they said it was weird, so I guess it's hard to make assumptions about what it sounds like. None of their albums really sound the same or sound like a continuation or part 2 of anything, but I am really intrigued by what it'd sound like. One day, I guess.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: yourwaves on Jun 23, 2010, 02:51 AM
yea i hope that one day comes fast no wait i hope its slow and hard but also fast...x)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jul 18, 2010, 03:40 AM
just watched melanie live and realized hes playin with a seven string.. had to see it to be sure. i thought eros was recorded using an 8 string guitar.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Mothman on Jul 20, 2010, 01:17 AM
Hey guys, do U think the Eros material will be released when current tour finishes?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jul 20, 2010, 04:04 AM
Hey guys, do U think the Eros material will be released when current tour finishes?


No, I don't.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sinatra on Jul 31, 2010, 08:58 AM
I kind of get the feeling some of the songs on Eros were redone for Diamond Eyes. Especially "This Place Is Death", it has a very similar sound to Self Titled. When I picture the sound for Eros I picture an album similar to Self Titled. Self Titled was originally supposed to be titled "Lovers", and Eros means 1. The god of love 2. Creative, often sexual yearning, love, or desire. There has to be some connection in direction, it almost seems to be intentional its such a coincidence. Overall Self Titled is my favorite album by Deftones and I'd love to see them continue in that direction, I cant complain because they made Diamond Eyes which brought them together as a band again and also brought back their youth. They haven't been this good live in years, Diamond Eyes is perfect for them right now I thinks its what they needed and I'm fully content with just that alone.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Aug 02, 2010, 04:50 AM
I was at a random house delivering some things, and found this:

http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075 (http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075)[1].jpg

I know the quality sucks but it's a door, and it says EROS... found this weird and funny.. in a door? really?? haha WTF..



Edit: Had to remove the pic and let the link only, buddy. Pic was too big. Vesanic
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Aug 02, 2010, 06:32 AM
Hahah ok, thanks, but I WANTED the pic to be shown as IT IS!!!

j/k Ves, I shoul've used the Spolier function..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Nebontha on Aug 16, 2010, 01:58 AM
Quote
I was at a random house delivering some things, and found this:

http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075 (http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075)[1].jpg

I know the quality sucks but it's a door, and it says EROS... found this weird and funny.. in a door? really?? haha WTF..



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Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: yeah on Aug 16, 2010, 10:09 AM
Quote
I was at a random house delivering some things, and found this:

http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075 (http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075)[1].jpg

I know the quality sucks but it's a door, and it says EROS... found this weird and funny.. in a door? really?? haha WTF..



La página solicitada no existe
translation: "The page you requested no longer exists"

Are you sure? copy the link again.. _http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075[1].jpg
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Nebontha on Aug 26, 2010, 11:41 PM
right, sorry, I should have copy/pasted the whole line, not just what was hyperlink'ed
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Sep 07, 2010, 01:10 AM
[Part 2] Very cool interview of Chino Moreno for Musiquemag.com 2010 [Sous-titres français] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmIgQ4-chA&feature=related#ws)

looks like eros has some psychedelic influences, free style jamming kind of album.. this interview also confirms they have 2 more records left with their label, since diamond eyes has been released, its down to one now.

credit to Vesanique for posting on youtube.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: marco j on Sep 08, 2010, 11:51 PM
^
Awesome news that they plan on releasing Eros!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Sep 09, 2010, 02:50 AM
^
Awesome news that they plan on releasing Eros!

they always did intend to release, they still don't know when..but yeah it is awesome. the description is quite interesting too
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Sep 09, 2010, 03:00 AM
I think I shared that in the interviews thread some while ago... Whatever, glad that you like it, fellas.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Sep 09, 2010, 04:50 AM
You bet your ass is psychodelic, did you hear the sounds on video number 2 of the eros session?

deftones in studio clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEq18AHrTdo#)

So fucking fantastic
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 09, 2010, 05:44 AM
Psychedelic is the "Bob Ezrin tracks".  Can't imagine them going any more psychedelic than that! It excites me to even picture what is "Eros".
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Sep 09, 2010, 06:09 AM
I guess Eros is pretty much SNW number 2. Just darker, with a more concrete structure and even more experimental.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: marco j on Sep 09, 2010, 07:50 PM
^
Awesome news that they plan on releasing Eros!

they always did intend to release, they still don't know when..but yeah it is awesome. the description is quite interesting too

I wasn't sure if they were going to release it or not. Obviously I want to have anything they release so I will wait patiently for this. :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 11, 2010, 12:38 AM
^
Awesome news that they plan on releasing Eros!
As we all will just have to. It sucks to even read about it anymore because of the anticipation and rumors.

they always did intend to release, they still don't know when..but yeah it is awesome. the description is quite interesting too

I wasn't sure if they were going to release it or not. Obviously I want to have anything they release so I will wait patiently for this. :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: HXGRMWORLD on Sep 16, 2010, 09:35 PM
Jammy... with some heavy stuff... let`s see...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteen on Sep 16, 2010, 11:30 PM
I guess Eros is pretty much SNW number 2. Just darker, with a more concrete structure and even more experimental.

I'd probably go with that too.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: el perro on Sep 17, 2010, 11:30 PM
We've already heard one full song and bits of others. Melanie being the full track, and bits from the "in studio" videos they did. I didn't particularly find the heavy guitar parts very insteresting in the clips, but love the music that plays at the beginning of each video. Reminds me of Beastie Boys instrumental album oddly enough. What Frank is playing on keyboard in one of the clips sounds a bit like Battle-Axe if you imagine a heavy guitar playing the same. I am looking forward to it being released but i think like they said "it would've been the end of Deftones" if it had been released instead of Diamond Eyes.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on Sep 18, 2010, 01:18 AM
I guess Eros is pretty much SNW number 2. Just darker, with a more concrete structure and even more experimental.

I'd probably go with that too.

+10
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DakkoN on Oct 09, 2010, 02:55 PM
We've already heard one full song and bits of others. Melanie being the full track, and bits from the "in studio" videos they did. I didn't particularly find the heavy guitar parts very insteresting in the clips, but love the music that plays at the beginning of each video. Reminds me of Beastie Boys instrumental album oddly enough. What Frank is playing on keyboard in one of the clips sounds a bit like Battle-Axe if you imagine a heavy guitar playing the same. I am looking forward to it being released but i think like they said "it would've been the end of Deftones" if it had been released instead of Diamond Eyes.

lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 10, 2010, 04:16 PM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..


No, it was not...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Oct 10, 2010, 04:23 PM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..


No, it was not...

it was confirmed in an interview that there is no material from EROS on Diamond Eyes, its all new. sometime later, ill find that interview. it was a written one, not video for sure.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Oct 10, 2010, 04:57 PM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..


No, it was not...

it was confirmed in an interview that there is no material from EROS on Diamond Eyes, its all new. sometime later, ill find that interview.

Ok, and while you're at it, can you also get evidence and assurance that deftones always tells the truth about everything?

Come on man, Deftones,especially Chino, lies all the time
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Shadow46/2 on Oct 10, 2010, 07:44 PM
Doesn't even sound the same.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SX King on Oct 10, 2010, 08:59 PM

lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..

I know ur not the only 2 say that but u guys need to get your fucking ears checked. Im mean what r u retarded?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Oct 10, 2010, 09:02 PM
We've already heard one full song and bits of others. Melanie being the full track, and bits from the "in studio" videos they did. I didn't particularly find the heavy guitar parts very insteresting in the clips, but love the music that plays at the beginning of each video. Reminds me of Beastie Boys instrumental album oddly enough. What Frank is playing on keyboard in one of the clips sounds a bit like Battle-Axe if you imagine a heavy guitar playing the same. I am looking forward to it being released but i think like they said "it would've been the end of Deftones" if it had been released instead of Diamond Eyes.

lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..

I know ur not the only 2 say that but u guys need to get your fucking ears checked. Im mean what r u retarded?

well, judging by your grasp of the english language, you're no shining example of intellect.  i'll admit they're similar but why would the band deny it at all if it was an early version? seems like shooting themselves in the foot a bit. it's not like they'd be trying to hide something. what do they have to gain from it?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SX King on Oct 10, 2010, 09:06 PM
Dude thats not what i was saying lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DakkoN on Oct 10, 2010, 09:30 PM
In Studio Clip:
Deftones eros in Studio 2008 clip 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FevOsH6bQ9w#)

Beauty School
Deftones - Beauty School [2010] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJAvHdcUaPk#ws)

Beauty School is definitely an evolved version of the in studio clips.. Anybody who says otherwise is just kidding themselves.

0 secs to 9 secs of Studio session = 0 secs to 13 secs of Beauty School

9 secs to 20 secs of Studio session = 13 secs to 21 secs of Beauty School

20 secs to the end of the music of Studio session = 21 secs and on of Beauty School

2  years of getting to play with the song before it's released will do that to a song.  And it's possible it was much longer than 2 years since SNW came out in 2006..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: vinsanity on Oct 10, 2010, 09:57 PM
When they talk about Eros they always said that they stopped working on it right after Chi's accident, so it would seem weird that they really used some Eros material in Diamond Eyes, i'm not saying that the beauty school intro doesn't sound similar to that intro song in the eros sessions vids, it does, but so does the intro of Prince sounds like Rx Queen. But i guess we'll only find out when Eros comes out
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Oct 10, 2010, 10:16 PM
When they talk about Eros they always said that they stopped working on it right after Chi's accident, so it would seem weird that they really used some Eros material in Diamond Eyes, i'm not saying that the beauty school intro doesn't sound similar to that intro song in the eros sessions vids, it does, but so does the intro of Prince sounds like Rx Queen. But i guess we'll only find out when Eros comes out

IF eros comes out. sadly, it's looking less and less likely to me all the time.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: vinsanity on Oct 10, 2010, 10:23 PM
When they talk about Eros they always said that they stopped working on it right after Chi's accident, so it would seem weird that they really used some Eros material in Diamond Eyes, i'm not saying that the beauty school intro doesn't sound similar to that intro song in the eros sessions vids, it does, but so does the intro of Prince sounds like Rx Queen. But i guess we'll only find out when Eros comes out


IF eros comes out. sadly, it's looking less and less likely to me all the time.
well, i want to believe that it will come out =). Chi is improving although slow but he's getting better,
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: E-Money on Oct 11, 2010, 08:24 AM
In Studio Clip:
Deftones eros in Studio 2008 clip 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FevOsH6bQ9w#)

Beauty School
Deftones - Beauty School [2010] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJAvHdcUaPk#ws)

Beauty School is definitely an evolved version of the in studio clips.. Anybody who says otherwise is just kidding themselves.

0 secs to 9 secs of Studio session = 0 secs to 13 secs of Beauty School

9 secs to 20 secs of Studio session = 13 secs to 21 secs of Beauty School

20 secs to the end of the music of Studio session = 21 secs and on of Beauty School

2  years of getting to play with the song before it's released will do that to a song.  And it's possible it was much longer than 2 years since SNW came out in 2006..

Dude your trippin, no way these are the same songs....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 11, 2010, 03:57 PM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..


No, it was not...

it was confirmed in an interview that there is no material from EROS on Diamond Eyes, its all new. sometime later, ill find that interview.

Ok, and while you're at it, can you also get evidence and assurance that deftones always tells the truth about everything?

Come on man, Deftones,especially Chino, lies all the time



They might be lying but not disrespectful to the point of using material written with Chi in a brand new album. It wouldn't even be legal.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Oct 11, 2010, 10:52 PM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..


No, it was not...

it was confirmed in an interview that there is no material from EROS on Diamond Eyes, its all new. sometime later, ill find that interview.

Ok, and while you're at it, can you also get evidence and assurance that deftones always tells the truth about everything?

Come on man, Deftones,especially Chino, lies all the time



They might be lying but not disrespectful to the point of using material written with Chi in a brand new album. It wouldn't even be legal.

just sharing my opinion here. I think it could be the same song. drum pattern and tempo makes me believe that they are the same song.
dude, they writing Diamond Eyes songs less than a year after Chi's accident.
CMIIW Deftones never finished writing their albums in 1 year or less. unless they have some material before.

Edit: oh yeah, MAYBE, maybe Beauty School is a "finished" version of the Eros clip. it reminds me to FOD live clip and the studio version (SNW demos), they have different structures. and that MAYBE happen with the Eros clip.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on Oct 11, 2010, 11:07 PM
I think: Just similar, but not the same song.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Oct 11, 2010, 11:12 PM
and MAYBE now they writing new stuff similar to Beauty School, put it on EROS, and said that's the good ol' Eros clip. :p
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SX King on Oct 12, 2010, 01:50 AM
If it is the same song which i do think they are similar in some ways and the melody would fit if the tempo was little faster. If Chino says they didnt use anything on Eros then do you think maybe Beauty School didnt make the album so they recycled it and used it for DE. Although it was weird when the leak happened and Chino was pist because he said it took 3 or for years of his life to write the material (or something to that effect).
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftonic on Oct 12, 2010, 03:12 AM
Regarding Chi waking up and playing with the guys again, I've heard a lot of rumors about it. I went to Boston a few weeks ago to see the Blackdiamondskye tour, and I met this dude who was pretty much as big of a fan of the good ole 'tones as I am. He said something about the nerves in Chi's right arm being damaged to the point of his not being able to regain full motor function in his hand and fingers, so if and when he wakes up he wouldn't be able to play bass anymore. I kicked myself for not asking this guy where he got his info, cause I don't think he was lying. He was definitely a huge fan, he was wearing a Deftones t-shirt and was talking to me about his favorite songs and all that jazz. I really doubt he would just come up with random B.S. Then again, this is all purely speculation, nobody knows for sure, we'll all have to see whenever Chi wakes up. I really want to hear Eros as much as the next guy, but the possibility of it being released are getting slimmer and slimmer with each passing day  :( 
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Rutje15 on Oct 12, 2010, 04:22 PM
All I know about the release of Eros, is that it definitly will be released. But they want to wait 'till people don't see Eros in combination with Chi's accident. (Chino said this in an interview, I will look it up.) I wonder if that is ever gonna happen...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 12, 2010, 05:29 PM
to be a part of the eros album doesnt mean chi have to play bass....he can just stay there and  work with them..

bastards....release this album
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Oct 12, 2010, 08:03 PM
We don't know if the intro of the eros clips was a whole song that would be used on Eros or not.It could have been a little jam Chino and Abe wrote that never became anything.Maybe Chi doesn't have any rights to that.
When they had to hurry up and come up with something new (diamond eyes) it's quite possible that they went back to that little jam and developed it to Beauty School.

Secondly: Deftones has received much cred because they wrote diamond eyes rather quickly. IF some of those songs was Eros songs converted into diamond eyes,that cred would disappear in a way; they would not be as productive as artists if those fast written songs was old songs. That's why it's possible that they would be lying about those kind of things.

People have to stop using what the deftones says in interviews as super-reliable sources.  : )


(Before White pony was released, a little hip hop tune without lyrics was in a promo video for it. Lots of people thought that song would be on WP (A video of a wasted Abe was filmed in it,maybe someone remember,Video Shoot by Steph. The Eros intro could be of that nature, never a real song)


Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 12, 2010, 09:11 PM
dude, its an eros song...
its clear..
they did work on it (bass, drums, guitar)....
it doesnt end like a -just an intro-...there is a fade out  so that is an absolute cut of the song..

is it beauty school ?
come on guys...beauty scool is a cool song but it CANT be better than that intro..
Why ?
Because beauty school is simple..
Just listen the drums and you ll see
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Oct 12, 2010, 09:42 PM
dude, its an eros song...
its clear..
they did work on it (bass, drums, guitar)....
it doesnt end like a -just an intro-...there is a fade out  so that is an absolute cut of the song..

Dude....you haven't heard the eros sessions so you cannot possibly know if it's a finished song that would be on Eros or if it just was a jam.
Listen to the Saturday Night Wrist demo, tons of ideas and jams got canned.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Oct 13, 2010, 12:38 AM
Regarding Chi waking up and playing with the guys again, I've heard a lot of rumors about it. I went to Boston a few weeks ago to see the Blackdiamondskye tour, and I met this dude who was pretty much as big of a fan of the good ole 'tones as I am. He said something about the nerves in Chi's right arm being damaged to the point of his not being able to regain full motor function in his hand and fingers, so if and when he wakes up he wouldn't be able to play bass anymore. I kicked myself for not asking this guy where he got his info
well, in 2002 Dave Mustaine had saturday night wrist, and it screwed up the nerves in his playing hand badly. was told by doctors he'd never play guitar again, or never at the level he used to, but he said oh helll no and refused to except that and worked really hard and relearned how to play, got his hand working right again and plays as good as ever
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Oct 13, 2010, 01:04 AM
Regarding Chi waking up and playing with the guys again, I've heard a lot of rumors about it. I went to Boston a few weeks ago to see the Blackdiamondskye tour, and I met this dude who was pretty much as big of a fan of the good ole 'tones as I am. He said something about the nerves in Chi's right arm being damaged to the point of his not being able to regain full motor function in his hand and fingers, so if and when he wakes up he wouldn't be able to play bass anymore. I kicked myself for not asking this guy where he got his info
well, in 2002 Dave Mustaine had saturday night wrist, and it screwed up the nerves in his playing hand badly. was told by doctors he'd never play guitar again, or never at the level he used to, but he said oh helll no and refused to except that and worked really hard and relearned how to play, got his hand working right again and plays as good as ever


A significant difference though: the fact that Dave started to play guitar again is not a good thing, but if Chi would play again it would be great.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Oct 13, 2010, 02:24 AM
opinions opinions. i mainly just hope Chi can ever communicate again, and have conversations, even if it's slow or whatever
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: beansandcornbread on Oct 13, 2010, 11:30 PM
Regarding Chi waking up and playing with the guys again, I've heard a lot of rumors about it. I went to Boston a few weeks ago to see the Blackdiamondskye tour, and I met this dude who was pretty much as big of a fan of the good ole 'tones as I am. He said something about the nerves in Chi's right arm being damaged to the point of his not being able to regain full motor function in his hand and fingers, so if and when he wakes up he wouldn't be able to play bass anymore. I kicked myself for not asking this guy where he got his info
well, in 2002 Dave Mustaine had saturday night wrist, and it screwed up the nerves in his playing hand badly. was told by doctors he'd never play guitar again, or never at the level he used to, but he said oh helll no and refused to except that and worked really hard and relearned how to play, got his hand working right again and plays as good as ever


A significant difference though: the fact that Dave started to play guitar again is not a good thing, but if Chi would play again it would be great.

Your insane.  That is all.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wooojorge on Oct 14, 2010, 03:10 AM
anyone heard about this Dallas song from the eros recordings?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Oct 14, 2010, 03:14 AM
No. Do tell.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wooojorge on Oct 15, 2010, 06:05 AM
well it could be bull but i was checking info out on the eros album on wiki.  check it out if you want.  They mention a song called dallas.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wooojorge on Oct 15, 2010, 06:06 AM
well it could be bull but i was checking info out on the eros album on wiki.  check it out if you want.  They mention a song called dallas.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Nov 08, 2010, 06:56 PM
I can't forget about Eros. Even if I always wonder... ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 14, 2010, 10:13 PM
well it could be bull but i was checking info out on the eros album on wiki.  check it out if you want.  They mention a song called dallas.

Maybe they ran out of ideas for a new song and played the dallas theme. that's right, the dallas theme on Eros. Wouldn't that be the day
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteen on Nov 26, 2010, 11:41 PM
I really, really want to hear this record now. I'm probably hyping it up to be some masterpiece but it has soooooo much meaning behind it.

I'll probably shit my pants (twice) if I ever hear it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Nov 29, 2010, 10:55 AM
I really, really want to hear this record now. I'm probably hyping it up to be some masterpiece but it has soooooo much meaning behind it.

I'll probably shit my pants (twice) if I ever hear it.
      ME TOO DAMN IT AND NINETEEN MILLION OTHER PPLS' NAMES
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Nov 29, 2010, 08:04 PM
i'm afraid we'll never see eros. maybe one day we'll hear the completed songs but it just seems downright unlikely that chino will ever finish his vocals for this stuff. maybe the unfinished stuff will be released or leaked as instrumental stuff  (unlikely) but surely chino won't be revisiting this. too bad really but it's all part of the mystique i guess. it'd make more money than diamond eyes imo.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Nov 30, 2010, 11:49 AM
i'm afraid we'll never see eros. maybe one day we'll hear the completed songs but it just seems downright unlikely that chino will ever finish his vocals for this stuff. maybe the unfinished stuff will be released or leaked as instrumental stuff  (unlikely) but surely chino won't be revisiting this. too bad really but it's all part of the mystique i guess. it'd make more money than diamond eyes imo.
word


i think when chino said ''someday it will be out'' he meant ''in 10 years or more''

they lost the passion of work with the eros songs i guess...thats why chino loved DE album more and he said ''DE is our best album''
Cause they dont earn so much money from makin a new album they do not want to put forth an effort,energy..
chino will work with another bands and his side prject and he will forget about the eros...he doesnt care im sure..he just says ''lets wait till chi can play''
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Dec 09, 2010, 10:58 PM
I heard Eros is the last document of the 251,000  that wikileaks will release. pray for it's owner not to be killed (or maybe that will be the cause of his murder)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on Dec 11, 2010, 08:51 PM
I heard Eros is the last document of the 251,000  that wikileaks will release. pray for it's owner not to be killed (or maybe that will be the cause of his murder)

+1
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bodywars9000 on Dec 30, 2010, 06:08 AM
I heard some samples of Eros and i must say i'm a little dissapointed.
I found it by accident and now i know why they don't want to release it.....
:(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wheresmysnare on Dec 30, 2010, 06:39 AM
I heard some samples of Eros and i must say i'm a little dissapointed.
I found it by accident and now i know why they don't want to '

Are you sure you didn't get rik roll'd
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Dec 30, 2010, 08:12 AM
I heard some samples of Eros and i must say i'm a little dissapointed.
I found it by accident and now i know why they don't want to release it.....
:(

where did you hear these samples?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bodywars9000 on Dec 30, 2010, 08:19 AM
I heard some samples of Eros and i must say i'm a little dissapointed.
I found it by accident and now i know why they don't want to '

Are you sure you didn't get rik roll'd

I don't know what that is.
No, it was mostly electronic, i think. Chino had a different effect on his voice, and in the chorus he was saying something like
"Never gonna give you up, never gonna something something etc."
It's not that it's "bad" perse', just not what i was expecting.
Also the video was lame, it was basically the same exact thing as the Mein video, except the editing was way different, and it was way cooler than Mein. Then he said "never gonna mess around, and desert you" or something like that.
All in all, it was still better than anything from Diamond Ass.
What's cool is, like i said, i found it COMPLETELY by accident. I'm really surprised no one else has seen this yet.
If you guys are interested, lemme know and i'll post the link.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ponyx on Dec 30, 2010, 08:26 AM
interested
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Dec 30, 2010, 09:58 AM
interested
+1
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: XJohnnyX on Dec 30, 2010, 10:02 AM
+2
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bodywars9000 on Dec 30, 2010, 10:24 AM
Wow really?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ponyx on Dec 30, 2010, 10:32 AM
yes -___-
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bodywars9000 on Dec 30, 2010, 10:35 AM
Here ya go:

www.lemonparty.org (http://www.lemonparty.org)

Have fun!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ponyx on Dec 30, 2010, 10:38 AM
i aint even mad :).......
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Dec 30, 2010, 10:52 AM
i actually cant take another eros joke anymore
well i have some search results...and its not ''eros leak'' it calls ''deftones 2009''
its some electronic shits (it must be abe and frank work only)
its only torrent, search it here
www.nobrain.dk (http://www.nobrain.dk)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wheresmysnare on Dec 30, 2010, 12:30 PM
I heard some samples of Eros and i must say i'm a little dissapointed.
I found it by accident and now i know why they don't want to '

Are you sure you didn't get rik roll'd

I don't know what that is.
No, it was mostly electronic, i think. Chino had a different effect on his voice, and in the chorus he was saying something like
"Never gonna give you up, never gonna something something etc."
It's not that it's "bad" perse', just not what i was expecting.
Also the video was lame, it was basically the same exact thing as the Mein video, except the editing was way different, and it was way cooler than Mein. Then he said "never gonna mess around, and desert you" or something like that.
All in all, it was still better than anything from Diamond Ass.
What's cool is, like i said, i found it COMPLETELY by accident. I'm really surprised no one else has seen this yet.
If you guys are interested, lemme know and i'll post the link.


Hahahaha thank you, you just made my flu ridden day with that !
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Dec 30, 2010, 05:47 PM
Wow really?

thats what i was saying.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 02, 2011, 07:58 PM
the member "dawg" posted this in the interview thread:


( www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf_OHw2gJJg&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf_OHw2gJJg&feature=player_embedded#)]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf_OHw2gJJg&feature=player_embedded[/url]  

but since they talk a little about eros maybe it can be here too. if it's true that they were in the mixing stages of eros, that must mean the vocals were done? mixing is, if not the last, among the last part of making a record, and you don't mix unless everything is recorded?

(and abe looks a little surprised that eros hadn't leaked yet, he was abaout to say something but cut himself off ^^
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Rxx on Jan 02, 2011, 10:02 PM
Dudes! I just found a presumably leaked intro of a song from Eros.. im not sure, but from what I have heard it has a deftones feel to it.. sadly no voice.. just instrumental.. I will leave it here..

http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on Jan 02, 2011, 11:13 PM
posted before, was not eros
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: davetonez on Jan 10, 2011, 03:03 PM
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rehostia on Jan 10, 2011, 03:11 PM
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)

U smoking?!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wheresmysnare on Jan 10, 2011, 03:20 PM
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)

U smoking?!

haha, if someone had said that sentence to me in everyday life i'd politely say 'yeah' having secretely not understood a word of it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 10, 2011, 04:42 PM
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)

You mean that chino scrapped eros because he likes Weezer? "sorry warner,sorry bandmates... i won't put eros out.. it's a great record but i'm gonna do like weezer cuz i like their music" ???
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 04:47 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 10, 2011, 04:52 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.

What's with the "Chino is a fan" thing then
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 04:56 PM
n/m
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 10, 2011, 05:01 PM
n/m
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 05:04 PM
Yeah I suppose I am. Just in a bad mood this morning I guess.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wheresmysnare on Jan 10, 2011, 11:19 PM
Yeah I suppose I am. Just in a bad mood this morning I guess.
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I get the impression that the band have now collectively moved on from Eros, I remember being at a London gig shortly before deftones released diamond eyes and chino was telling the crowd how hyped he was at the thought of being able to start playing tracks off diamond eyes live. No mention at all to Eros, almost like they were happy to wash their hands with it, comes across to me thet they don't necessarily think much of it
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 11, 2011, 12:07 AM
In early 2010, I think it makes a little sense that they were thrilled and looked forward to be playing the latest material they just finished. It would be a little strange if they would stand and talk/put energy and focus on the material they put aside in 2008-2009 (eros), when it was album releasing times round the corner (de). but they don't seem so proud of eros. mostly steph who seem to like it and want to get it out to people.

they will probably never release eros like "this is us" but more like like garage days "this is what we were back then" kind of deal. I think it will be out someday, but years from now.Can't ever see them tour it :(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Jan 11, 2011, 12:16 AM
my guess is if we ever hear eros it will be a leak, maybe on purpose by them. that way fans can hear it yet they can still say it's not an official album if they're not 100% happy with it, and continue not playing the songs live. if Chi gets to where he can play again they might actually release it for real. who knows. a leak seems like the only way we'll hear it anytime in the next few years
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jan 11, 2011, 12:26 AM
I heard in an interview that they were really surprised that Eros wasn't out there yet. Even them think it will be leaked, you know, so I guess it will happen.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Jan 11, 2011, 12:34 AM
it is pretty amazing it hasn't leaked yet
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 11, 2011, 01:00 AM
I assumed that because it hasn't leaked yet, the people who worked on it are pretty careful with it, very high sequrity and so on.that so far, it has been in the right hands, small number of people working on it who have access to it.and now almost locked in a vault. One can think: "If it's been 2.5 years and nothing has happened this far, it's at a safe place, and the years can continue to go by'without anything happening..... but when abe sits and show a lot of astonishment that eros hasn't leaked yet, one has to reconsider
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Jan 11, 2011, 01:04 AM
In early 2010, I think it makes a little sense that they were thrilled and looked forward to be playing the latest material they just finished. It would be a little strange if they would stand and talk/put energy and focus on the material they put aside in 2008-2009 (eros), when it was album releasing times round the corner (de). but they don't seem so proud of eros. mostly steph who seem to like it and want to get it out to people.

they will probably never release eros like "this is us" but more like like garage days "this is what we were back then" kind of deal. I think it will be out someday, but years from now.Can't ever see them tour it :(

pretty much this although it should leak eventually. the way things have been going though, it looks like it's been under lock and key and will be a while before any of us get to hear it, leaked or otherwise.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 03:36 AM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.

This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Jan 11, 2011, 03:39 AM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.

This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

as well as holiday, tired of sex, in the garage and probably some others. i wish they'd bust out one of those these days.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 03:44 AM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.

This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

as well as holiday, tired of sex, in the garage and probably some others. i wish they'd bust out one of those these days.

Same, I'd love to hear a few studio versions if they exist. I had no idea they covered Tired of Sex, one of Weezer's best
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Jan 11, 2011, 03:49 AM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.

This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

as well as holiday, tired of sex, in the garage and probably some others. i wish they'd bust out one of those these days.

Same, I'd love to hear a few studio versions if they exist. I had no idea they covered Tired of Sex, one of Weezer's best

no studio versions sadly but i'm fairly sure you can find them all live on youtube.

here's tired of sex.
Deftones - Tired of Sex / Engine No. 9(live) 9/11/97 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRO7hgmdYzQ#)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defsteve on Jan 11, 2011, 05:10 AM
It is clear they won't be touring Eros. Diamond Eyes has another 12/18 months of touring which would mean Eros would be approx 4 years old once the current touring cycle is complete.

I would release it digitally with all Chi's proceeds going to his medical costs.

Aim for digital 'sign-ups' asking for $10 each. Once total sign-ups reach a set number (say 100,000) everyone gets a download link valid for one download each in FLAC/WAV/MP3/AAC format. If it is leaked after that at least they will have raised some serious cash.

Although the fact we all want to hear it doesn't necessarily mean we ever will  :( :'(

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Frequency_Chemist on Jan 11, 2011, 08:41 AM
I'm not going to give up on Eros. If Chi gets better and to the point he could play again I think we'd see it then. If he doesn't...I think the label will release it after the band is done with. You know, just to make a few more bucks off the band. Worst case scenario they'll release it the day after I die. If that's the case I wouldn't blame you if you wished death on me.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 11, 2011, 01:41 PM
I understand the comparison to some extent. What i don't understand is this:

We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)

I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

It insinuates that chino/deftones have acted as they did with eros, because of how weezer acted with their record. That deftones are such big fans that they do whatever weezer does in a case like this, not matter what costs, no matter if it's good or bad for deftones. It's weird.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jan 11, 2011, 02:30 PM
Deftones - Eros  leaked.....

imagine it..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: vinsanity on Jan 11, 2011, 11:11 PM
Deftones - Eros  leaked.....

imagine it..

I know that i would prefer to see full version, finished, but can't say i wouldn't be happy if the leak happens
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: davetonez on Jan 12, 2011, 05:59 AM
I understand the comparison to some extent. What i don't understand is this:

We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)

I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.

It insinuates that chino/deftones have acted as they did with eros, because of how weezer acted with their record. That deftones are such big fans that they do whatever weezer does in a case like this, not matter what costs, no matter if it's good or bad for deftones. It's weird.


Eh, sometimes it's hard getting an idea across online. I didn't want it to come across as that's why the album hasn't been released yet... That'd be stupid.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 13, 2011, 01:38 AM
I don't think it's realistic that Weezer has anything to do with this. It wouldn't get past the rest of the band, especially Stephen. It is solely because of Chi's situation. New topic please. 10,000,000 pleases actually..... ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 13, 2011, 01:41 AM
It is clear they won't be touring Eros. Diamond Eyes has another 12/18 months of touring which would mean Eros would be approx 4 years old once the current touring cycle is complete.

I would release it digitally with all Chi's proceeds going to his medical costs.

Aim for digital 'sign-ups' asking for $10 each. Once total sign-ups reach a set number (say 100,000) everyone gets a download link valid for one download each in FLAC/WAV/MP3/AAC format. If it is leaked after that at least they will have raised some serious cash.

Although the fact we all want to hear it doesn't necessarily mean we ever will  :( :'(


Good point. I like this idea and would think they have or will toss this around. Better than a leak, I would rather pay $10 to Chi's cause than get a leaked version that probably sounds like shiiiiit.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit on Jan 24, 2011, 12:08 AM
I know it's very unlikely at this point but I trawl the net almost every day hoping to find some info as to when Eros will be released.
I know they're probably waiting for Chi to make a recovery first but I think now or even the next year or so would be a great time to release it.
It would bring more attention to Chi's plight and it would be great if the proceeds could go towards Chi's medical bills - I'm sure he sorely needs the money at this point in time.
I'm sure there'd be a lot less illegal downloading with this album and a lot more sales because people would be wanting to give something towards Chi's recovery.What a great thing it would be - to be able to say thank you to Chi for all the wonderful music he has given us, music that has changed a lot of our lives.It's not always easy for people like me, who live outside the states and don't have a credit card to give something towards Chi but if Eros was available as a CD I'd go out and buy it straight away ........ and one copy just wouldn't be enough!
Of course the only thing I don't like about the Tones is the length of time it takes them to put out a new album. Waiting 3 years is always so painful!
So from a selfish point of view it would be so good to be able to wrap my ears around some new Deftones material, before the usual 3 year wait is up!
I'm sure Chi would be proud of them, whatever they decide to do.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Jan 26, 2011, 06:16 AM
So from a selfish point of view it would be so good to be able to wrap my ears around some new Deftones material, before the usual 3 year wait is up!
I'm sure Chi would be proud of them, whatever they decide to do.
And no matter if it's old music or renewed music, i'd love to hear some new Deftones material and at the same time helping Chi, if they put it as digital or physical album
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 27, 2011, 07:51 AM
So from a selfish point of view it would be so good to be able to wrap my ears around some new Deftones material, before the usual 3 year wait is up!
I'm sure Chi would be proud of them, whatever they decide to do.
And no matter if it's old music or renewed music, i'd love to hear some new Deftones material and at the same time helping Chi, if they put it as digital or physical album
Kinda lazy right now to scroll down where this originated from but there is an interview posted where Chino n Serge say they are writing for a new album after the tour or during? Maybe you've seen it by now, just helping out brothers.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jan 27, 2011, 08:01 AM
I changed my mind. We'll never get Eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 27, 2011, 08:47 AM
I changed my mind. We'll never get Eros.
V, I sure hope you are not as influential to this idea as I think u may be buddy. lol! I would love to hear it as well but you are right, I'm afraid. I'm over it, but can't get away from this topic for the life of me. I'm starting to get more excited about the next record than Eros anyways, after we heard about them writing soon straight from the horse's mouth. It's all good, because if it depends on Chi's well-being, so be it. It's only right after all (I believe, now) and drives more hope into me that he wakes up and tours Eros properly. Let's just be excited for the next record and elaborate on our ideas of what we picture this next one to be like. It's exciting especially to wonder because they evolve and write every record differently from the rest, right? GYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jan 27, 2011, 08:56 AM
V, I sure hope you are not as influential to this idea as I think u may be buddy. lol!


Haha...

I hope I'm wrong, man, believe me, I do with all the ventricles of my red beating thing, but let's just be realistic for a second...

The label controls the band's music that gets released. The Deftones compose the music they want to compose but, the music that gets out there is not up to them. WMG doesn't like Eros. Fact. They won't release it. They will not.

The only hope is a leak in a couple of years, but I hardly believe in that too.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ponyx on Jan 27, 2011, 09:01 AM
so eros is like entertain me then. both will never be seen.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jan 27, 2011, 09:08 AM
so eros is like entertain me then. both will never be seen.

Just like I commented on that Big Day Out interview, Eros is gonna be the " Entertain Me Affair " number 2.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 27, 2011, 09:16 AM
V, I sure hope you are not as influential to this idea as I think u may be buddy. lol!


Haha...

I hope I'm wrong, man, believe me, I do with all the ventricles of my red beating thing, but let's just be realistic for a second...

The label controls the band's music that gets released. The Deftones compose the music they want to compose but, the music that gets out there is not up to them. WMG doesn't like Eros. Fact. They won't release it. They will not.

The only hope is a leak in a couple of years, but I hardly believe in that too.
Didn't know WMG didn't like it. Makes me love it already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I believe they only have 1 left with WMG which if possible they could find a label other than them and that could be the only possibility. But yeah, by then,,,,,,,, years from now...... long gone (frowns)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Jan 27, 2011, 09:33 AM
i really hope we all hear it someday, but i'm gonna try not to think about it much. drives me nuts knowing they have a whole album i haven't heard, it reall does. at least they're starting another one soon. but i'll always wonder about eros. how could you not?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: yeah on Jan 27, 2011, 01:10 PM
IN other words: I really really hope so, but I don't think so? (c)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 27, 2011, 03:06 PM
The label controls the band's music that gets released. The Deftones compose the music they want to compose but, the music that gets out there is not up to them. WMG doesn't like Eros. Fact. They won't release it. They will not.

The only hope is a leak in a couple of years, but I hardly believe in that too.

good post. not because i like what it says, but because you see things with sober eyes. someone who lives in reality.
I'm sorry, but ever so often i find it a bit too much here with the "deftones release eros when chi wakes up and then go on tour around the world "

deftones don't have the final say on their releases and chi's not sleeping like a sweet little lamb and then wake up all refreshed like after a long sleep.

unfortunately he's been severely damaged in the brain in the accident and when/if he comes to total consciousness, he will certainly not play again.
You can call me an idiot for stating the obvious now and then say how right i was in a couple of years
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Jan 27, 2011, 03:43 PM
now i believe Eros is not even exist
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Jan 27, 2011, 07:24 PM
now i believe Eros is not even exist
i'd rather believe that then know it does exist and not got to hear it
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pixElsblUr on Jan 27, 2011, 08:38 PM
I actually don't think that's going to be released for a long time... It will be one of those records that bands release long after they have stoped playing.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 28, 2011, 06:04 AM
The label controls the band's music that gets released. The Deftones compose the music they want to compose but, the music that gets out there is not up to them. WMG doesn't like Eros. Fact. They won't release it. They will not.

The only hope is a leak in a couple of years, but I hardly believe in that too.

good post. not because i like what it says, but because you see things with sober eyes. someone who lives in reality.
I'm sorry, but ever so often i find it a bit too much here with the "deftones release eros when chi wakes up and then go on tour around the world "

deftones don't have the final say on their releases and chi's not sleeping like a sweet little lamb and then wake up all refreshed like after a long sleep.

unfortunately he's been severely damaged in the brain in the accident and when/if he comes to total consciousness, he will certainly not play again.
You can call me an idiot for stating the obvious now and then say how right i was in a couple of years
Like I said, if you missed it, let's just be excited for the next one (and move on). Nothing wrong with having a little hope for Chi's situation while I am very aware of his condition. I meant (obviously) that if it were to be heard that the proper way to do it would be with Chi, on tour. I'm not Mark Twain. Didn't say it would happen ever, in fact. Get over people stating what they want to state, and don't hate, lol I made it clear enough that it would be a perfect world if that happened, that's all man. You should tell the band you find it a little too much as well bc hell, they said it first right?  I don't think you're an idiot but I do think you're a bit too cynical sometimes. Peace to you, no disrespect coming from me
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Jan 28, 2011, 10:17 AM
well maybe its going to be like Nirvana's "You Know You're Right" song. released several years after Cobain's death
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jan 28, 2011, 10:24 AM
Should I kill Chino now, then ?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 28, 2011, 10:56 AM
My bad. Shit happens :o
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 28, 2011, 11:16 AM
i think vesanics response was to pony 01 and what i wrote was comment on a certain kind of blue eyed mentality that occurs every now and then around here. i wasn't talking about you, i don't even know if you're one of them. not every post being made here is about you. maybe you think it should, but it's not ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 28, 2011, 11:30 AM
It's cool. Really. :) Wasn't talking at V, you just accurately replied to what I had to say IMO that's all. And I normally don't post anything bc of crap like that, so being an attention whore wouldn't suit me anyways ;) I'm not really a confrontational person either, so this isn't working for me, let it go already. Be cool and keep the smartass business to yourself.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Jan 28, 2011, 11:51 AM
Should I kill Chino now, then ?

i think  its better to wait. ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: turn1ps on Jan 29, 2011, 07:07 AM
Should I kill Chino now, then ?

wait a bit for that vesanic, also nice girl pic.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Feb 06, 2011, 10:25 AM
Should I kill Chino now, then ?
i can help
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Feb 06, 2011, 11:51 AM
It leaked.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Feb 06, 2011, 12:25 PM
my suggestion is that you write a little more what you know ^^  if it's true, then im a little bit sad.. they should have released it and made a buck out of it.for themselves and chi =(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Feb 06, 2011, 12:26 PM
Haha, I thought it was funny. Sorry.


For the recall, Eros is not even finished.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rehostia on Feb 06, 2011, 12:31 PM
C
It leaked.

Cabron!!!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Feb 06, 2011, 12:50 PM
Haha, I thought it was funny. Sorry.


For the recall, Eros is not even finished.

yes i agree it was hiliarious. and it depends on who's interviewd.. it's not finished according to chino and steph, but frank said it was finished in an interview and abe said they're were mixing it which is something they do in the final stages of making a record. once again: who knows
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Feb 06, 2011, 12:58 PM
Haha.


Well I'm quite sure there are still some vocals to add.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Feb 06, 2011, 03:36 PM
depends on who you choose to believe. it may be like chino says but he's also the biggest liar in the band. hard to tell

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Feb 06, 2011, 03:54 PM
what i've gathered from all the things they've said is the music is done, vocals are most of the way done with a couple songs left to finish and they'd started mixing the finished tracks (though that seems weird to do when theres still songs to finish) but yeah. this is purely speculation and i'm drawing my own conclusions. even still, i don't think we'll be hearing any of it for a long time yet.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Feb 06, 2011, 07:53 PM
if we for one second assume that everyone in the band speaks the truth about eros,like you do, then your description is the only one that would get it all together. but i I would guess that they usually mix the material when everything is recorded.when you have an overview of the whole record
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: raynor on Feb 06, 2011, 11:31 PM
Fellas, fellas, play Diamond Eyes backwards and you get Eros.

Close thread, n00bz.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Feb 07, 2011, 12:29 AM
:) i did and it really sounds unorthodox like they said
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Feb 07, 2011, 09:04 AM
 ;D WOW :-X
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Feb 13, 2011, 11:34 PM
I have a feeling they may scrap eros or put it out till the very end or something. the mood in the band is happy, the energy is strong and they're already looking ahead by thinking of writing a new album. They wont revisit those sad songs anytime soon
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Feb 15, 2011, 10:33 AM
Fkit!!! Someone, just clean up Melanie n call it a day please.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Feb 15, 2011, 02:29 PM
Fkit!!! Someone, just clean up Melanie n call it a day please.

i think someone remastered it in the deftones download and request thread. it's still pretty low quality but it's a noticeable difference. if nobody has put it up for you by the time i get home from work i'll upload it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Feb 17, 2011, 02:31 AM
hey, thanx. I may have it but maybe not...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Feb 17, 2011, 04:40 AM
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ALE954UT (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ALE954UT)

there ya go.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: JVell on Feb 21, 2011, 12:34 AM
Not to beat a dead horse to death, but I think we'll get to hear Eros eventually. Obviously, I doubt that Deftones have any aspirations of releasing this material as a commercialized, full length album. I believe they'll release it offhandedly one day, unless they are motivated to re-work some of the songs and craft them into a fresh release.

In all honesty, I cannot even fathom Deftones having an album off to the side and us, as fans, never being able to hear it. It hurts too much to think about.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Feb 21, 2011, 05:32 AM
Every time I see someone post in this thread I pray that it's about Eros leaking. No such luck.

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Shadow46/2 on Feb 21, 2011, 09:21 PM
Every time I see someone post in this thread I pray that it's about Eros leaking. No such luck.


Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Corleone on Feb 24, 2011, 05:11 AM
yeah seriously, where the fuck is my hidden album!!!!

I've devoted enough into this band, how can they withhold material from me..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Frequency_Chemist on Feb 24, 2011, 07:25 AM
Every time I see someone post in this thread I pray that it's about Eros leaking. No such luck.



I think everyone on this board feels that way.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Feb 28, 2011, 02:08 AM
Not to beat a dead horse to death, but I think we'll get to hear Eros eventually. Obviously, I doubt that Deftones have any aspirations of releasing this material as a commercialized, full length album. I believe they'll release it offhandedly one day, unless they are motivated to re-work some of the songs and craft them into a fresh release.

In all honesty, I cannot even fathom Deftones having an album off to the side and us, as fans, never being able to hear it. It hurts too much to think about.



I agree with u, some of the songs will be re-written. I was listening to melanie and realized how weak the lyrics are compared to what Chino wrote in Diamond eyes. In the right mind-set, they'll turn those songs around
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Feb 28, 2011, 02:25 AM
Not to beat a dead horse to death, but I think we'll get to hear Eros eventually. Obviously, I doubt that Deftones have any aspirations of releasing this material as a commercialized, full length album. I believe they'll release it offhandedly one day, unless they are motivated to re-work some of the songs and craft them into a fresh release.

In all honesty, I cannot even fathom Deftones having an album off to the side and us, as fans, never being able to hear it. It hurts too much to think about.



I agree with u, some of the songs will be re-written. I was listening to melanie and realized how weak the lyrics are compared to what Chino wrote in Diamond eyes. In the right mind-set, they'll turn those songs around

i was more intrigued with melanie than i was with about 25% of the DE stuff. don't get me wrong, i love DE but melanie is a perfect example of the mood i felt was missing on that record. i miss the eratic, abrasive deftones a bit. still though i'm extremely happy with what we've got already and look forward to eventually loving eros, re-worked or not.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: aeroplume on Mar 07, 2011, 04:38 AM
i dont think we'll ever hear it, but thats just me.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Gnosticality on Mar 07, 2011, 05:22 AM
I think Chino's really amping up the fact that we may hear Eros one day,
but I really think it'll be a long, long time from now. But, on the bright side, they're starting a brand new record very, very soon, according to an interview he had at the Big Day Out 2011 show.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Mar 07, 2011, 06:27 AM
I think Chino's really amping up the fact that we may hear Eros one day,
but I really think it'll be a long, long time from now. But, on the bright side, they're starting a brand new record very, very soon, according to an interview he had at the Big Day Out 2011 show.

Link?

I doubt they're done touring for Diamond Eyes yet? They barely even toured NA yet.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defsteve on Mar 07, 2011, 12:16 PM
Link?

I doubt they're done touring for Diamond Eyes yet? They barely even toured NA yet.

Deftones talk about eventual new record and Big Day Out - Auckland, January 21st 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDQnz0-0gE#ws)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deadradio on Mar 07, 2011, 05:47 PM
Every time I see someone post in this thread I pray that it's about Eros leaking. No such luck.



same here!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Mar 08, 2011, 04:18 AM
Eros will never leak. the record label doesnt even have the final mastered recordings, in fact that doesnt even exist. the only way we can get that recording is for someone to infiltrate the cabinet or computer that its hidden in or as Juan (deftones assistant) to leak a copy for us!!

I wonder how much Juan would do it for?Imagine we all chip in 10 bucks for Juan to do it!

Not that I'm saying i dont want it to leak, it'll very unlikely.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rehostia on Mar 08, 2011, 05:16 PM
Eros will never leak. the record label doesnt even have the final mastered recordings, in fact that doesnt even exist. the only way we can get that recording is for someone to infiltrate the cabinet or computer that its hidden in or as Juan (deftones assistant) to leak a copy for us!!

I wonder how much Juan would do it for?Imagine we all chip in 10 bucks for Juan to do it!

Not that I'm saying i dont want it to leak, it'll very unlikely.

LIAR!!!!    :-\
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Mar 11, 2011, 07:49 PM
Not to beat a dead horse to death, but I think we'll get to hear Eros eventually. Obviously, I doubt that Deftones have any aspirations of releasing this material as a commercialized, full length album. I believe they'll release it offhandedly one day, unless they are motivated to re-work some of the songs and craft them into a fresh release.

In all honesty, I cannot even fathom Deftones having an album off to the side and us, as fans, never being able to hear it. It hurts too much to think about.



I agree with u, some of the songs will be re-written. I was listening to melanie and realized how weak the lyrics are compared to what Chino wrote in Diamond eyes. In the right mind-set, they'll turn those songs around
I hope they keep what they have because a special thing about their records is the time period and the mindset they are in (like they have said) that's why every record evolves and is unique from the rest. Especially since I don't think they should change a thing they did with Chi. It could be the last, you know? Let's just hope they write a new record at least aside from Eros....

i was more intrigued with melanie than i was with about 25% of the DE stuff. don't get me wrong, i love DE but melanie is a perfect example of the mood i felt was missing on that record. i miss the eratic, abrasive deftones a bit. still though i'm extremely happy with what we've got already and look forward to eventually loving eros, re-worked or not.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Mar 16, 2011, 07:49 AM
Every time I see someone post in this thread I pray that it's about Eros leaking. No such luck.



same here!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 01, 2011, 03:12 AM
In an interview from yesterday, when asked about Eros, Sergio stated:

It’s waiting for the right moment,” he says. “I think right now it’s unfairly attached to the incident with Chi. It’s just circumstantial. It’s not about that. I think that when there is a time where it can be seen as a piece for itself, then it will make more sense to put it out. And even better yet, if there’s a chance that Chi could somehow be a part of it in some capacity at all, that would just be 100 times better.


http://consequenceofsound.net/2011/03/interview-sergio-vega-of-the-deftones/ (http://consequenceofsound.net/2011/03/interview-sergio-vega-of-the-deftones/)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Apr 01, 2011, 04:30 PM
"I think I'll keep the two first questions that I wrote, even the not-really-a-question with Eros.

As of now, lots of fans are convinced that we'll never get to hear Eros. Diamond Eyes had a huge, huge success and most of the fans were really impressed with that record, but there are still some people curious about Eros. Why don't you finally release it and, why not, use the benefits for Chi's family, who is currently struggling with the huge ft ees of his treatmen?
"

I'm wondering the same thing,but hope that it's asked a little more humble. maybe it's a bit too much accusation, irritation, and attacking in the question.but unfortunately I think it will be a pre-formulated answer, not necessarily a straightforward answer if they will get that question.

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 01, 2011, 04:41 PM
In what way is that an accusation ? They have Eros, it's not finished, some people want to hear it, Chi needs money. Am I saying anything wrong ? No.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Apr 01, 2011, 04:46 PM
In what way is that an accusation ? They have Eros, it's not finished, some people want to hear it, Chi needs money. Am I saying anything wrong ? No.

i want some inside information answers too just like you,not some floating nice answer that sound good in the media.It's just that it sounds "why haven't you released eros for the benefit of chi? what's wrong with you guys?? have some heart!" but that's just my interpretation.
did you see Stephen's reaction when he recently got a chance to comment on the fact that many think they've done too little for chi?
He was clearly annoyed. And if they get annoyd maybe they won't answer it properly like steph.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 01, 2011, 05:03 PM
did you see Stephen's reaction when he recently got a chance to comment on the fact that many think they've done too little for chi?

I actually did not.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 01, 2011, 05:17 PM
Well, that was totally unexpected, but...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s_SswA0Jbw8/TH2Pt9ptPTI/AAAAAAAAAs8/IH1q-XX6xpw/s400/7c82a15d.jpg)

Tracklist:

Dallas (4'37)
XO (5'11)
Alisson (3'44)
Destiny (2'16)
Melanie (2'40)
Latex (3'57)
You ate it (4'01)
Firelegs (3'12)
Trempest (2'30)
Maya (5'36)

Download (320kbps MP3):

www.mediafire.com/?3ibw0om00jf (http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/april-fools.jpg)

Mind = blown.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: KLaUThiO on Apr 01, 2011, 05:21 PM
AWEONAO!!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: mono on Apr 01, 2011, 05:28 PM
wuajjajajajajajaj OWNED!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bright lights, big city on Apr 01, 2011, 05:50 PM
wait. what?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on Apr 01, 2011, 06:17 PM
I think I creamed my pants! "you ate it" fucking classic!!!!!!111
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: lahemi on Apr 01, 2011, 06:20 PM
Oh wow, Vesanic, you... ugh, that, good sir, just made my day  ;D

Will give the link to your post to a pal of mine now, with the words "oh fuck dude, stand up and take a seat again, you'll know why when you saw what's behind that link...", hihi.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Apr 01, 2011, 06:32 PM
You ate it (4'01)

 ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 01, 2011, 06:37 PM
You did. 8)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: White Wrist on Apr 01, 2011, 07:27 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Apr 01, 2011, 07:35 PM
the link doesn't work for me, just some picture with a guy pops up. anyone else with the same problem? guess melanie didn't make the final cut
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deadradio on Apr 01, 2011, 07:55 PM
nice one! :D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Apr 01, 2011, 07:59 PM
the link doesn't work for me, just some picture with a guy pops up. anyone else with the same problem? guess melanie didn't make the final cut

It did. Check the tracklist again.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 01, 2011, 08:09 PM
This > Diamond Eyes
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Apr 01, 2011, 08:11 PM
there it is! looking forward to the working link. is some of the songs early d.e songs??
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Oldnewtype on Apr 01, 2011, 08:19 PM
wow nice track names
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Apr 01, 2011, 08:20 PM
Nope. All different material. I dunno though, its kind of weird. Besides Melanie, some of this is a little too avant garde for me, personally.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sushi-X on Apr 01, 2011, 09:04 PM
Nope. All different material. I dunno though, its kind of weird. Besides Melanie, some of this is a little too avant garde for me, personally.

crazy talk, this is classic "tones, just listen to 'you ate it" Chino brings back his "The eeeeaaaarth" crooning back on this album
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bodywars9000 on Apr 01, 2011, 09:27 PM
WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES.

 >:(

I still like Diamond Eyes better.

 :D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Apr 02, 2011, 12:43 AM
TROLLOLOLOLOL
(http://files.sharenator.com/U_Mad_Bro_RE_Do_you_have_to_have_the_last_word-s469x428-137106.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Shadow46/2 on Apr 02, 2011, 01:50 AM
TROLLOLOLOLOL
(http://files.sharenator.com/U_Mad_Bro_RE_Do_you_have_to_have_the_last_word-s469x428-137106.jpg)

likes this.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Shadow46/2 on Apr 08, 2011, 08:51 PM
Hey I got a question: Where did the name "Melanie" come from? I find it interesting that the band has never actually named the song, and I was never able to find any interviews or articles about the song that mention the title, so I was just wondering how that knowledge came about.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: There Will Be Blood on Apr 08, 2011, 09:41 PM
Came from a stripper
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: skinnypuppy on Apr 08, 2011, 10:47 PM
Was wondering why this thread was so popular out of nowhere. The things I would do for a copy of Eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: lostpilot on Apr 08, 2011, 11:24 PM
I personally believe that Eros will be fucking awesome.
It will be infinitely better than Diamond Eyes and SNW.
Dark, romantic, agressive, chaotic.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: skinnypuppy on Apr 08, 2011, 11:37 PM
it's their best album ever without us listening to it ever
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: lostpilot on Apr 08, 2011, 11:46 PM
indeed it is. expectations are running wild
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Apr 08, 2011, 11:50 PM
the best album...eros

yeah
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Shadow46/2 on Apr 09, 2011, 12:48 AM
If White Pony and self-titled had a baby, Eros would murder that baby. That's how great it is.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ponyx on Apr 09, 2011, 02:02 AM
You guys I'm sorry to say this but you  are expecting wayyy too much, and I'd hate to see you guys put the album down and talk shit about it  once it's out because it didn't succeed your expectations...I'm sure it'll be better than snw though, and maybe diamond eyes.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: skinnypuppy on Apr 09, 2011, 03:05 AM
shut up you don't know what you're talking about death to the infidel
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: There Will Be Blood on Apr 09, 2011, 04:31 AM
shut up you don't know what you're talking about death to the infidel
lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: E-Money on Apr 09, 2011, 05:46 AM
Eros is never happening. 
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Apr 09, 2011, 06:56 AM
Eros is never happening. 

I thought I'd post my two cents here:
a day or two ago, when Steph arrived arrived to argentina, he was asked about Eros by somebody called Dan. Steph's response to its release date is: "It will come out when christ comes back to the earth. And we know that's never happening,  hahaha"

It's not even a finished album unfortunately, and knowing whose work is missing I fear eros may never see the light of day. Maybe a few tracks on a strange situation. I'd like to hear the Myspace clip song, since they put it on the map, though.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: tarkil on Apr 09, 2011, 07:14 AM
I definitely agree with you on this, I hardly see it being released one day for these exact reasons.
We all know Chino said that he doesn't like to revisit old material because it belongs to a different mindset that was happening at the time.

Just see the song Bumble D, it was awesome as hell, but Chino just never find some lyrics at the time, and then never wanted to revisit it and complete it...

But we may see the finished songs released / leaked one day, who knows...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Corleone on Apr 09, 2011, 07:20 AM
this band just sucks balls then, atleast learn to properly mix and master your music then, bring back terry


/rant
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sea Bass on Apr 09, 2011, 08:17 AM
this band just sucks balls then, atleast learn to properly mix and master your music then, bring back terry


/rant

statement.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: There Will Be Blood on Apr 09, 2011, 04:03 PM
a few years back in a Frank Interview he said the album is finished and was in Post-Production. Maybe all that yeah it will come out and its on the back burner talk was because they didn't know how serious chi's condition was and how long it will last.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 09, 2011, 07:27 PM
I personally believe that Eros will be fucking awesome.
It will be infinitely better than Diamond Eyes and SNW.
Dark, romantic, agressive, chaotic.
Dark, romantic, aggressive, chaotic. PERFECT description of a flawless Deftones record bro.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: lostpilot on Apr 09, 2011, 07:29 PM
I know, right?!
Point is that I don't think we will ever get that record :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 09, 2011, 07:31 PM
If White Pony and self-titled had a baby, Eros would murder that baby. That's how great it is.
eros wld b that baby :o
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 09, 2011, 07:35 PM
I definitely agree with you on this, I hardly see it being released one day for these exact reasons.
We all know Chino said that he doesn't like to revisit old material because it belongs to a different mindset that was happening at the time.

Just see the song Bumble D, it was awesome as hell, but Chino just never find some lyrics at the time, and then never wanted to revisit it and complete it...

But we may see the finished songs released / leaked one day, who knows...
Tarkil, don't mean to get off the subject for a second but u mentioned Bumble D and I've never found a good version to download n have. U have anything? link? thnx in advance
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: tarkil on Apr 12, 2011, 03:57 AM
I don't have anything with me, but if I remember correctly, there are some "correct" versions floating on youtube, look for Cactus club show 1997 there.
And there's no better version than that cause nothing was ever recorded in studio, it's just a live song they played a couple of times.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 13, 2011, 05:58 AM
I don't have anything with me, but if I remember correctly, there are some "correct" versions floating on youtube, look for Cactus club show 1997 there.
And there's no better version than that cause nothing was ever recorded in studio, it's just a live song they played a couple of times.
Thanks man for replying so fast! Yeah, I will have to record that one. I was thinking that the studio rehearsal or the audio-only version were the only 2 worth anything. I had 2 Ipods full of everything in this world (literally, lol) stolen from my truck at a family gathering!!! Go figure, right? Some friends of friends of cousins is where it is narrowed down to are now (ironically, with me being an EARLY fan) are now Deftones' fans probably if they have any sense after eating and drinking from my family's earnings. I'm a sucka! I'm slowly trying to get everything back on a new one but I work 6 days 12 hrs a week and getting shit together for a wedding this fall. Nothing gonna stop me from getting these rarities back on my headphones, bro! Thanks again
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Redsun on Apr 20, 2011, 01:38 PM
hi friends, just want to know if anyone have some materials (i mean blog writings of chi and chino, pictures, song  samples...) from deftonesinstudio.blogspot.com era?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Apr 21, 2011, 04:49 AM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Apr 21, 2011, 05:04 AM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked

i believe the opposite. i think the need for reworking (since it was never really finished) will keep them from ever completing it and we'll never see it. maybe years down the line it'll surface somewhere but i'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 23, 2011, 07:18 PM
The way they've described Eros is so perfect it is almost surreal to believe it is that way and that we'll hear it. We haven't had a record that was full of lengthy tracks that are just incredibly "jammy". I've longed for a record like that and hope that if they decide never to release Eros by the time they start writing the next, that they will consider writing like this again! They said it was deep, dark, and unorthodox. Just right, but probably too good to be true. I think I comment on this thread every time I jam out to Melanie. What a goo d song IMO. I would like to know the correct lyrics to this track to get an idea of what the rest of the record may be about, roughly....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Apr 24, 2011, 12:39 AM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked

i believe the opposite. i think the need for reworking (since it was never really finished) will keep them from ever completing it and we'll never see it. maybe years down the line it'll surface somewhere but i'm not holding my breath.

Contractually, aren't the obligated to do so?  I was thinking, all the money that went into this record for production, mixing and recording will have to recovered somehow by the label. The label owns the rights of this album too so wouldn't they force the band to complete the record. I highly doubt they'd let an unfinished album just sit there after all the effort and money was put into it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 24, 2011, 12:56 AM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked

i believe the opposite. i think the need for reworking (since it was never really finished) will keep them from ever completing it and we'll never see it. maybe years down the line it'll surface somewhere but i'm not holding my breath.

Contractually, aren't the obligated to do so?  I was thinking, all the money that went into this record for production, mixing and recording will have to recovered somehow by the label. The label owns the rights of this album too so wouldn't they force the band to complete the record. I highly doubt they'd let an unfinished album just sit there after all the effort and money was put into it.
No shit!, They wouldn't say it will be here one day or even talk about it at all if it weren't to be released. They would squash the questions all together,I would think. They say it is super special too with deep stuff as well. It'll be here, the glass is 3/4 full people. Quit shitting on our hopes and dreams, damn it! lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Apr 24, 2011, 08:17 PM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked

i believe the opposite. i think the need for reworking (since it was never really finished) will keep them from ever completing it and we'll never see it. maybe years down the line it'll surface somewhere but i'm not holding my breath.

Contractually, aren't the obligated to do so?  I was thinking, all the money that went into this record for production, mixing and recording will have to recovered somehow by the label. The label owns the rights of this album too so wouldn't they force the band to complete the record. I highly doubt they'd let an unfinished album just sit there after all the effort and money was put into it.
No shit!, They wouldn't say it will be here one day or even talk about it at all if it weren't to be released. They would squash the questions all together,I would think. They say it is super special too with deep stuff as well. It'll be here, the glass is 3/4 full people. Quit shitting on our hopes and dreams, damn it! lol

they used the little remaining studio time and money to make DE so technically the label got a return on their investment. this begs the question why they brought in a new producer and how that must have gone over with terry but from what i've read that seems to be the case.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Apr 24, 2011, 09:50 PM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked

i believe the opposite. i think the need for reworking (since it was never really finished) will keep them from ever completing it and we'll never see it. maybe years down the line it'll surface somewhere but i'm not holding my breath.

Contractually, aren't the obligated to do so?  I was thinking, all the money that went into this record for production, mixing and recording will have to recovered somehow by the label. The label owns the rights of this album too so wouldn't they force the band to complete the record. I highly doubt they'd let an unfinished album just sit there after all the effort and money was put into it.
No shit!, They wouldn't say it will be here one day or even talk about it at all if it weren't to be released. They would squash the questions all together,I would think. They say it is super special too with deep stuff as well. It'll be here, the glass is 3/4 full people. Quit shitting on our hopes and dreams, damn it! lol

they used the little remaining studio time and money to make DE so technically the label got a return on their investment. this begs the question why they brought in a new producer and how that must have gone over with terry but from what i've read that seems to be the case.

its safe to say maverick is well underway of recovering on Diamond Eyes, but Eros took a really long time, we're talking at least 2 years. If Diamond Eyes sales boom, then maverick can get really lucky.

I personally think the new producer brought a more positive aspect out of the band, rather than Terry Date who understands them really well and shapes up their music. I am not hating on him but change is always good :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chuckles on Apr 27, 2011, 08:09 AM
someday we'll get this album... and it will blow the roof... for now let's enjoy what we have...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on May 03, 2011, 04:59 AM
So its safe to say we can expect EROS in the next 4-5 years maybe....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: BillyNo.9 on May 03, 2011, 05:14 AM
I actually imagine them putting out in around 10 years for some reason. I hope it's not the case but if they do make another album like they said, I'm with everyone else that said mid 2013, by the time they finish that whole era of touring etc will be around 2015. We the fans will be in the same situation we are now. Besides I doubt they'll do it until Chi recovers.

I hope I'm not right and we do get to hear the damn album sometime soon!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on May 07, 2011, 11:55 PM
I think I got it...... They've expressed wanting to release an album "Radiohead style" online (pay your price) and it would fit Eros really well! I don't see it coming in a package saying "the long, anticipated, controversial record by the (old) Deftones" -  on a silver sticker. Nope. They will bring it online probably an Itunes deal where you pay your price or they'll have a track by track fee or something like that. And it WILL be in the next couple of years or sooner. While THEY still feel relevant enough and on this great wave they are riding. No way will it be ten years from now when most wont give a fucking care in the world for it. It would b forgotten by most and leave a bad dent in their legacy. My opinion, maybe not yours.... oh well. Wait n see mofos!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defsteve on May 08, 2011, 12:03 AM

It is clear they won't be touring Eros. Diamond Eyes has another 12/18 months of touring which would mean Eros would be approx 4 years old once the current touring cycle is complete.

I would release it digitally with all Chi's proceeds going to his medical costs.

Aim for digital 'sign-ups' asking for $10 each. Once total sign-ups reach a set number (say 100,000) everyone gets a download link valid for one download each in FLAC/WAV/MP3/AAC format. If it is leaked after that at least they will have raised some serious cash.

Although the fact we all want to hear it doesn't necessarily mean we ever will  :( :'(



Still this.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on May 08, 2011, 07:14 PM

It is clear they won't be touring Eros. Diamond Eyes has another 12/18 months of touring which would mean Eros would be approx 4 years old once the current touring cycle is complete.

I would release it digitally with all Chi's proceeds going to his medical costs.

Aim for digital 'sign-ups' asking for $10 each. Once total sign-ups reach a set number (say 100,000) everyone gets a download link valid for one download each in FLAC/WAV/MP3/AAC format. If it is leaked after that at least they will have raised some serious cash.

Although the fact we all want to hear it doesn't necessarily mean we ever will  :( :'(



Still this.
pretty much what I was conveying as well, I think. U make a better point with the proceeds to Chi, that's the cherry on top. Nice
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Jun 03, 2011, 04:13 AM
EROS= the lost cityof gold, El Dorado
Title: Re: Eros thread
Post by: honeybeewu on Jun 09, 2011, 12:14 AM
I wouldn't say that, since everyone's about 'Diamond Eyes' it will be forgotten or that no-one gives a crap about 'Eros'.


Agreed, but Jacob said he couldn't believe that people were still talking about Eros now that we have Diamond Eyes, that deftones fans are never satisfied, etc.

It's not about being "Satisfied"... Deftones is like a sweet drug. We just can't get enough....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 09, 2011, 11:22 AM
It's not about being "Satisfied"... Deftones is like a sweet drug. We just can't get enough....

Hehe, right.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jun 18, 2011, 09:52 PM
From an interview given a bit before the Pomona show, which took place on June 15

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/264091_1978442573175_1006449219_32185919_3547859_n.jpg)


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Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jun 18, 2011, 10:21 PM
they've stopped saying "release it when chi comes back" in eros questions?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Jun 19, 2011, 02:38 AM
as i've been saying, well never hear it. on the off chance we ever do it won't be for a LONG time.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jun 20, 2011, 12:01 AM
Ahh I hate how Eros was written during a dark period, even though its post-Saturday Night Wrist when the band was starting to shape up again..It will definitely come out but I am very sure it's going to be reworked once Chino decides to revisit that dark, unstructured jam of an album
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Redsun on Jun 27, 2011, 05:40 PM
Chi Cheng:

"We've been locked into the studio, as you know, and are finishing the drum tracks on a song tentatively called 'Trempest'. It's heavy as fuck with a shitload of groove and even though it's been driving me crazy as it runs through my insomniatic brain, I am really excited! I always say this shit, but I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty.The idea of finishing the album and getting out to play in front of y'all is a nice light at the end of my tunnel. We intend to tour extensively so don't fret."

 :-\ wake up chi... please...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheShade1989 on Jun 28, 2011, 10:50 AM
It's pretty safe to say they wont be releasing it for a long time, if ever. Like thy said in the interview Vesanic posted, they're not even thinking about it right now. They're touring, gonna be working on some new music soon, etc., so I dont think they'll ever think of any time as an appropriate one unless it's in the distant future wen they just finally think "fuck it, let's just release some unreleased music".
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Redsun on Jun 28, 2011, 01:17 PM
someone have the song samples from deftonesinstudio.blogspot.com era? back in the day, i remember chino moreno posted some of them, some short samples about what will eros taste like.. thank you...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jun 28, 2011, 01:42 PM
Chi Cheng:

"We've been locked into the studio, as you know, and are finishing the drum tracks on a song tentatively called 'Trempest'. It's heavy as fuck with a shitload of groove and even though it's been driving me crazy as it runs through my insomniatic brain, I am really excited! I always say this shit, but I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty.The idea of finishing the album and getting out to play in front of y'all is a nice light at the end of my tunnel. We intend to tour extensively so don't fret."

 :-\ wake up chi... please...

if it was chino i wouldnt belive it
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jul 01, 2011, 10:58 PM
Chi Cheng:

"We've been locked into the studio, as you know, and are finishing the drum tracks on a song tentatively called 'Trempest'. It's heavy as fuck with a shitload of groove and even though it's been driving me crazy as it runs through my insomniatic brain, I am really excited! I always say this shit, but I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty.The idea of finishing the album and getting out to play in front of y'all is a nice light at the end of my tunnel. We intend to tour extensively so don't fret."

 :-\ wake up chi... please...

if it was chino i wouldnt belive it

chi jokes a lot too at times but who knows
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit on Jul 05, 2011, 02:19 PM
I'd love for it to be released in physical format. I love being able to hold a CD in my hand and having a booklet with pictures and lyrics to look at. It appeals to the collector in me.
It would be great if they released a deluxe or limited edition with a big booklet with loads of pics of the band with Chi and of Chi himself and possibly with some funny or interesting stories of his time in the band.
I'd pay good money for something like that and it would be even better if they donated a share of each record to Chi's recovery.
It would also be a great way to get people who have heard of Chi's condition but have never heard Deftones, to buy their first Deftones album in the name of a good cause. Also people who do listen to Deftones but download their albums illegally, instead of paying money for them will now have a reason to actually buy the album or have their conscience suffer. Obviously the band and Chi would benefit so everyone wins.
I say release it now so that Chi can get some much needed money for his recovery. He worked hard and had a big input on this album so why should it sit there on the shelf when it could be bringing him some much needed money at a time when he needs it the most.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 05, 2011, 03:10 PM
I agree with you. Chi, deftones, the record company would all benefit from a release of the record. +we fans get to hear the highly anticipated music. what forces,in not releasing it, would be bigger than that?

make the release a little more deluxe in terms of packeting and pictures but take out an excessive price for it. and go out with that one part of the money would go to chi, we are many who would buy it. one or two copies.release it in different colors and even on vinyl. spend 20% more than normal in doing it but charge 100% more. don't underestimate our love for deftones and chi. i think you're right- imagine a fan who would not buy this album, even a fan who normally doesn't buy their records. This time, surely many downloaders would feel forced to buy it. downloading the album without paying for it? their fan mark would be erased.

we, hearing the music, is secondary but I wonder how deftones themselves think about it. I can understand that they, after chi's accident, wait to begin with, wait to see what happens. maybe things could work out for themselves. but it's been quite some time now. time is ticking.

chino + others may not like the music on eros, how it represents them today, but how can that be more important than chi getting more help from a job he was part of. if some money from it can increase the chances of him getting better, why not do it? it's his life we're talking about

I hope that the reasons for having eros on the shelf now is bigger than what's been said in interviews. the answers, waiting for chi to wake up, was ok in the begnning, but now?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Jul 05, 2011, 08:32 PM
I do think Eros will be released one day. Just not anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chino17 on Jul 05, 2011, 08:57 PM
Eros must be release as a deluxe edition because about the situation the band have to make money with it

just to help their brother it's limpid ....

but for now what's the fuckin' bone why they don't release it!?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 07, 2011, 05:37 PM
Eros must be release as a deluxe edition because about the situation the band have to make money with it

what if they release a regular eros cd, but also - a double eros cd with the regular disc + 1 disc with bonus material, maybe some films from the studio, a riff that didn't make it etc.one on vinyl and then.. the big eros box .. the packeting is shaped like a big greek god .. and you open the face to get the cd. you also get a eros poster with that box + a one love for chi t-shirt. it would cost a fortune, only for the die hards ^
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 07, 2011, 06:31 PM
and for those who just can't get enough of this era: the eros doll. also in the form of a greek god. it's when you open the top part of the skull you will get the disc,and the picture on the disc is a brain. when you press the nose on the doll it's a little speaker inside the mouth that says a greek saying about love. the're 10 pre-programmed sayings that goes around in order. there's also a small bit of brown hasch the butthole of the doll, always ready to be enjoyed while listening to the record to make it a special a eros trip.many of you will probably say" I quit playing with dolls when I was five" but this is a very special doll. can't believe it's not in the making
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: silver1 on Jul 07, 2011, 08:15 PM
and for those who just can't get enough of this era: the eros doll. also in the form of a greek god. it's when you open the top part of the skull you will get the disc,and the picture on the disc is a brain. when you press the nose on the doll it's a little speaker inside the mouth that says a greek saying about love. the're 10 pre-programmed sayings that goes around in order. there's also a small bit of brown hasch the butthole of the doll, always ready to be enjoyed while listening to the record to make it a special a eros trip.many of you will probably say" I quit playing with dolls when I was five" but this is a very special doll. can't believe it's not in the making

Either you've completely lost it or we're getting way too far ahead of ourselves here. Unfortunately nothing's guaranteed regarding the Eros era - not even a release of the music produced during that time. Speculate all you want, even about packaging and the promotional tactics surrounding the release, but chances are we'll never hear a thing from Eros. Hopefully I am completely wrong. What a day that would be.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chino17 on Jul 07, 2011, 08:21 PM
hey ! totally agree with you "from musings"

i'd like to see a second disc with the outtakes , videos in the studio and much more!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wheresmysnare on Jul 07, 2011, 08:53 PM
I think the band might just think that Eros is not good enough to release and don't want to risk popping the little bubble of good press that diamond eyes received, Eros might have very little relevance artistically to Diamond Eyes and thus doesnt offer a logical progression if it were to be relased now.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: silver1 on Jul 08, 2011, 04:40 AM
I think the band might just think that Eros is not good enough to release and don't want to risk popping the little bubble of good press that diamond eyes received, Eros might have very little relevance artistically to Diamond Eyes and thus doesnt offer a logical progression if it were to be relased now.

I completely agree. I almost would rather not have it be released if the band isn't on board with it. The preferred direction I would hope they take is re-visit the Eros material, use portions of that material that they still enjoy and incorporate this into a new full length album. From there, they could create a Collector's Edition and include a second disk of what the old Eros release would have been like. Therefore, we get new material and die-hard fans are forced into a win-win situation.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: tarkil on Jul 08, 2011, 09:02 AM
I liked the "hash in the butthole of the doll" idea though...  :-\

Can we still have it ?


(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/1/27/pwettypwease128459099906108750.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 09, 2011, 04:37 PM
I think the band might just think that Eros is not good enough to release and don't want to risk popping the little bubble of good press that diamond eyes received, Eros might have very little relevance artistically to Diamond Eyes and thus doesnt offer a logical progression if it were to be relased now.

yup, but the follow-up question is more interesting- is it an acceptable excuse from them to keep eros in the vault? if eros could give money to chi, is deftones pride and vanity and their view on the band, where it is now sonically, more important? what's important in life?

a hypothetical question or whatever (will not happen but to produce an eye-opener) what if the record company would go out and say that they want to release eros and give some money to chi from it.. if deftones would say "no it would ruin the buzz d.e is having" and "we do not feel like the music represents us today" a lot of fans would think they were selfish idiots. next after that - do they really have to answer a question like that to to make us react? isn't this what's already is at stake? (there's of course the option that the record company don't want to release eros)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 09, 2011, 04:38 PM
I liked the "hash in the butthole of the doll" idea though...  :-\

Can we still have it ?


I believe warner and toys r us are in the final process of the deal.

in stores pwetty soon
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wheresmysnare on Jul 09, 2011, 05:40 PM
I think the band might just think that Eros is not good enough to release and don't want to risk popping the little bubble of good press that diamond eyes received, Eros might have very little relevance artistically to Diamond Eyes and thus doesnt offer a logical progression if it were to be relased now.

yup, but the follow-up question is more interesting- is it an acceptable excuse from them to keep eros in the vault? if eros could give money to chi, is deftones pride and vanity and their view on the band, where it is now sonically, more important? what's important in life?

a hypothetical question or whatever (will not happen but to produce an eye-opener) what if the record company would go out and say that they want to release eros and give some money to chi from it.. if deftones would say "no it would ruin the buzz d.e is having" and "we do not feel like the music represents us today" a lot of fans would think they were selfish idiots. next after that - do they really have to answer a question like that to to make us react? isn't this what's already is at stake? (there's of course the option that the record company don't want to release eros)

Yeah good points, either way the decision rests with the record company, as they almost certainly contractually own the rights to Eros. I think the best thing to do (as i think has already been suggested here) would be to do a radiohead style release online with an option to donate to chi. This would be morally be the best way.... but then record companies don't really do morals...anyway it will get leaked eventually i'm sure.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 09, 2011, 06:09 PM
anyway it will get leaked eventually i'm sure.

maybe. but the only ones benefiting from a leak would be the stingy fans.i hope all involved in the making can get some earnings from the material. time money blood sweat beers and tears have been put into it (i think)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Nebontha on Jul 19, 2011, 04:24 AM
Eros was not finished (lyrically and vocally at least), and Chino cannot get back into the original mindset he was in when he was writing the lyrics to the tracks that he did do...
I am no longer keeping my hopes up for this material surfacing.  It's pointless.
Depressing? Yes.
Suck it up fairy princess.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Jul 19, 2011, 05:00 AM
Eros was not finished (lyrically and vocally at least), and Chino cannot get back into the original mindset he was in when he was writing the lyrics to the tracks that he did do...
I am no longer keeping my hopes up for this material surfacing.  It's pointless.
Depressing? Yes.
Suck it up fairy princess.

From what i've read, the lyrics are done, they just have to be recorded.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jul 19, 2011, 12:39 PM
From what i've read, the lyrics are done, they just have to be recorded.

Might be, I don't know, but even in that case, he hasn't come up with a structure for these lyrics yet, and like Nebontha said, he cannot get back into the mindset he was in during the Eros days. With the finished songs and the songs he has to work on, Eros would sound like two different singers work on it. That would feel awkward, to me, but that's just me. It would be nice to hear the finished songs at least, that's the only thing I'm asking for...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jaypayton on Jul 19, 2011, 08:12 PM
Every band has tons of unfinished songs in their vaults. Faith No More had over 10 songs written for the Album of the Year LP and just needed lyrics and vocals and Mike Patton came in and threw them all out because he refused to record vocals on those songs, so they started from scratch. Trent reznor has stated he has over 30 unreleased songs for The Fragile (some with vocals, some just instrumentals) the Cure recorded over 30 songs for Disintegration--most will never see the light of day...If they really wanted it to come out they would "leak" it and not give a fuck what the record company thinks
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Nebontha on Jul 21, 2011, 08:57 PM
Quote
Every band has tons of unfinished songs in their vaults. Faith No More had over 10 songs written for the Album of the Year LP and just needed lyrics and vocals and Mike Patton came in and threw them all out because he refused to record vocals on those songs, so they started from scratch. Trent reznor has stated he has over 30 unreleased songs for The Fragile (some with vocals, some just instrumentals) the Cure recorded over 30 songs for Disintegration--most will never see the light of day...If they really wanted it to come out they would "leak" it and not give a fuck what the record company thinks
NO, they would NOT leak it!  It's the last thing that Chi worked on!  It really has NOTHING to do with the record company, it really all comes down to Chi being in his condition.  They are not doing ANYTHING with Eros until they get a conscious decision from Chi.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Jul 27, 2011, 07:11 PM
Just a little correction: 19 songs were recorded for disintegration. Most of them went to the album & came as b-sides, and the rest (I think they were 3 or 4) were released in it's deluxe edition which came out Last year.

In the Case of Kiss me, about 14 songs were left out on the record and never surfaced. And I remember Robert telling they did a mamooth 33 song demo for the self titled record.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: 100Modem on Jul 27, 2011, 09:37 PM
Isn't Beauty School a song that was in Eros?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Jul 27, 2011, 09:37 PM
Isn't Beauty School a song that was in Eros?

nope
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheyCallMeP on Jul 28, 2011, 05:19 PM
I've heard it wasn't either, but the opening guitar lines in beauty school do sound similar to the opening guitar lines in the "making-of" youtube video series of Eros. I don't know if they re-worked it or what
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Jul 28, 2011, 08:11 PM
they just have a similar drum pattern.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Jul 28, 2011, 10:32 PM
its definitely rework..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jul 29, 2011, 11:56 AM
its definitely rework..


No. For crying out loud, NONE of the material used for Eros was used or re-worked for Diamond Eyes. Eros' songs were never touched again since Chi's accident.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Jul 29, 2011, 12:15 PM
its definitely rework..


No. For crying out loud, NONE of the material used for Eros was used or re-worked for Diamond Eyes. Eros' songs were never touched again since Chi's accident.

i dont really believe with what Chino or the band said about EROS.. but finishing Diamond Eyes for less than a year?? with new new materials?? I dont think so. IMHO some songs or maybe one definitely a reworked. that's why the album finished so fast.
They maybe like
C: "hey abe i like this drum pattern, lets use this on a new song!"
A: "but thats from a song off from EROS, we cant do that"
C: "we're in the fucking deadline. do it!"
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jul 29, 2011, 04:27 PM
finishing Diamond Eyes for less than a year?? with new new materials?? I dont think so.



Ever heard of an album called " Around the Fur " that took just as much time to be finished ?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 29, 2011, 07:07 PM
yeah pony 1 is right about one thing... never trust these guys. they don't say things to give us facts, they say things to look good
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jul 30, 2011, 12:54 AM
its definitely rework..


No. For crying out loud, NONE of the material used for Eros was used or re-worked for Diamond Eyes. Eros' songs were never touched again since Chi's accident.
its definitely rework..


No. For crying out loud, NONE of the material used for Eros was used or re-worked for Diamond Eyes. Eros' songs were never touched again since Chi's accident.

i dont really believe with what Chino or the band said about EROS.. but finishing Diamond Eyes for less than a year?? with new new materials?? I dont think so. IMHO some songs or maybe one definitely a reworked. that's why the album finished so fast.
They maybe like
C: "hey abe i like this drum pattern, lets use this on a new song!"
A: "but thats from a song off from EROS, we cant do that"
C: "we're in the fucking deadline. do it!"

Gathering from interviews, Steph has mentioned that they went on a song a day and also said that if he write a song, he can finish it over a day. The producer had them on a fixed schedule writing and recording the songs plus and Chino didn't get too involved in the song writing as he used to. The other records took long because of their mindset, laziness, battling for song writing...

Around the fur was the same case, band wrote the music and chino wrote the lyrics and that took 4 months I believe? That was also because they were happy at the time.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jul 30, 2011, 12:55 AM
its definitely rework..


No. For crying out loud, NONE of the material used for Eros was used or re-worked for Diamond Eyes. Eros' songs were never touched again since Chi's accident.

Yes that is true, no material from Eros has resurfaced on Diamond eyes. Maybe they stole the idea from that intro video but its not a rework
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: 100Modem on Jul 30, 2011, 01:17 AM
I've heard it wasn't either, but the opening guitar lines in beauty school do sound similar to the opening guitar lines in the "making-of" youtube video series of Eros. I don't know if they re-worked it or what

Yeah i think it was that video i saw too.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit on Jul 30, 2011, 08:49 PM
I'm definitely with Vesanic on this one.
The band stated in mumerous interviews that DE is completely new material and that nothing was taken from Eros.
Why would they lie about that and why is it so difficult to believe?
I think that with everything going on (most obviously Chi's accident) it was as they said therapeutic to make more music and then Sergio came in and introduced something new, the creativity began to flow and they were able to come up with an album much quicker than usual.
I'm sure Nick Raskulinecz helped speed things along nicely too. Don't get me wrong - I love Terry's production more than anything but I think Nick was needed at this point in time and being a new producer to the Tones or maybe just because of the way he works, he was able to get a lot out of them.
I read another interview which said that Stef was using the riff that became Rocket Skates as sort of a warm up exercise and Nick encouraged them to make a song out of it, so it sounds like he was the perfect producer to get things rollings.
I hear a slight similarity between Beauty School and the Eros clip intro but only in one small section of the intro of the drum pattern. The rest of the drum pattern and the riff is completely different IMO.
Of course we don't even know if the intro to the Eros clips was going to be on the Eros album anyway.
Personally I wish they'd just do whatever they still have to to get Eros finished, release it and give all the proceeds to Chi for his medical bills.
Sure it sounds honourable to wait for him to regain consciousness and it would be like a fairytale if they could release it when he's ready to tour with the band again but the reality is that the guy seriously needs
the money right right now.
I'm sure Eros would sell well. It could get a lot of publicity because of it's cause and people wouldn't download it instead of buying it for the sake of morals, so it could potentially mean a lot of money going Chi's way. I'd buy 3 copies if I knew the money was going to Chi.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jul 30, 2011, 09:20 PM
I'm definitely with Vesanic on this one.
The band stated in mumerous interviews that DE is completely new material and that nothing was taken from Eros.
Why would they lie about that and why is it so difficult to believe?
I think that with everything going on (most obviously Chi's accident) it was as they said therapeutic to make more music and then Sergio came in and introduced something new, the creativity began to flow and they were able to come up with an album much quicker than usual.
I'm sure Nick Raskulinecz helped speed things along nicely too. Don't get me wrong - I love Terry's production more than anything but I think Nick was needed at this point in time and being a new producer to the Tones or maybe just because of the way he works, he was able to get a lot out of them.
I read another interview which said that Stef was using the riff that became Rocket Skates as sort of a warm up exercise and Nick encouraged them to make a song out of it, so it sounds like he was the perfect producer to get things rollings.
I hear a slight similarity between Beauty School and the Eros clip intro but only in one small section of the intro of the drum pattern. The rest of the drum pattern and the riff is completely different IMO.
Of course we don't even know if the intro to the Eros clips was going to be on the Eros album anyway.
Personally I wish they'd just do whatever they still have to to get Eros finished, release it and give all the proceeds to Chi for his medical bills.
Sure it sounds honourable to wait for him to regain consciousness and it would be like a fairytale if they could release it when he's ready to tour with the band again but the reality is that the guy seriously needs
the money right right now.
I'm sure Eros would sell well. It could get a lot of publicity because of it's cause and people wouldn't download it instead of buying it for the sake of morals, so it could potentially mean a lot of money going Chi's way. I'd buy 3 copies if I knew the money was going to Chi.

I would agree that the proceeds should go to Chi but unfortunately the record label will never let that happen. To them its just another stock waiting to get their return on. I have suggested that deftones re-record some of their old songs and sell those themselves. It would be a great way to market their revamped songs to new fans as well as be a great incentive to "purchase" the songs to help CHI. Plus I don't think the current label has copyrights over their old demos so legally they're allowed to do whatever they want with those songs. As for Eros, The amount of cash and time that was invested into it will just be another cost for Reprise/Warner Bros to recover.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit on Jul 30, 2011, 09:30 PM
Good point Juvenile.
What a pity though - I wish that the record company could forget about filling their pockets for a while and do what I suggested. I know it doesn't make business sense and as such will never happen but it would be a great act of humanity if they did and would be a nice way to say thanks to Chi for his contributions over the years. Probably as much chance as peace on earth
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Jul 30, 2011, 11:56 PM
They don't have to worry about the record label anymore because they aren't on it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jul 31, 2011, 03:01 AM
They don't have to worry about the record label anymore because they aren't on it.

Who owns the music then?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Jul 31, 2011, 01:36 PM
No leaks or anything of that sort from this album?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Jul 31, 2011, 04:44 PM
have Terry Date ever speak about EROS after Chi's accident??
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chino17 on Jul 31, 2011, 05:21 PM
the riff played in the eros videos is the same chord as beauty school (just the beginning of the song) but the notes are not played in the same order

so deftones fan musicians tell me what you think about that...

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chino17 on Jul 31, 2011, 05:22 PM
i often cover these two songs with my guitar
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 31, 2011, 10:35 PM
Why would they lie about that

because of varieties of ugly truths.for example, deftones see themselves as artists, but hate to say that they're bitches for a record company who has control over their music and actually owns it.and are ashamed of the way things go sometimes.

like what if the record company (which interfered a lot when snw was made) dismissed the unorthodox material on eros and came up with a proposal when chi ended up in a coma."we can give you money for a new bassplayer, but if so - we get you another producer who remakes these weird longs songs on eros, to short pop songs so we can make money here. and he will help you to finish the album with a couple new songs with the new bassplayer too just be sure the'yre easy listening. he will guide you through this but he's the boss now.no more fucking around. this is the dead line and here's the schedule, you're working 9-5 now" i'm not saying that it went down like that but im also saying that we don't know that it isn't some fucked up shit going on.deftones would never admit something of that nature. so getting all the 100% answers from deftones interviews is naive i think  :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 31, 2011, 10:39 PM
the riff played in the eros videos is the same chord as beauty school (just the beginning of the song) but the notes are not played in the same order

so deftones fan musicians tell me what you think about that...



makes me think..if they reworked a riff on one song like this, how can we be 100% certain that they didn't reworked another eros riff too that ended up on diamond eyes? i'm not saying d.e is 50% eros songs, all i'm saying is that noone knows. not me, not the ones getting their facts from deftones either
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 31, 2011, 10:47 PM
No leaks or anything of that sort from this album?

we have a live track called melaine and a studio track called chillers. melaine is alright, but chillers is amazing and breathtaking
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chino17 on Jul 31, 2011, 11:01 PM
+1 agree with you from_musings // i'm sure that beauty school is a reworked song , but we don't know for the rest of the album

melaine makes me think to rapture sometimes!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chino17 on Jul 31, 2011, 11:04 PM
where we can find the song chillers?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 31, 2011, 11:34 PM
ask vesanic but you better have some good shit to trade if you want this one
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: cEvin Key on Aug 01, 2011, 12:21 AM
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.

is this legit???

http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on Aug 01, 2011, 12:52 AM
yup, it's legit

like musing said, vesanic has it but he won't trade unless you got ultra rare bootlegs
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Aug 01, 2011, 02:05 AM
Yeah I want your mother for that.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: BillyNo.9 on Aug 01, 2011, 03:11 AM
Skinnypuppy should trade Entertain Me.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 01, 2011, 07:16 AM
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.

is this legit???

http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)

The style of the lyrics makes me think their going back to kind of an Adrenaline type sound. Exciting.

Though, "Melanie" to me sounds just.... generic. Not really a fan of it, but from what ive heard of the other stuff, sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Aug 01, 2011, 07:40 AM
Take no offense, but to me this does not exist. Why are you special enough to have this track when vocals n shit aren't complete and it hasn't been discussed to my knowledge anyways...... like i said, I don't believe it and wont until u release a 5 second snippet,  :-\ V, I know that if anyone had it here, it would be you - (respect). But I don't think so, I know u have heard a rehearsal jam from that record but not a studio track I and others would kill for.... :) Joke's on me right?????????
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: BillyNo.9 on Aug 01, 2011, 08:54 AM
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.

is this legit???

http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)

The style of the lyrics makes me think their going back to kind of an Adrenaline type sound. Exciting.

Though, "Melanie" to me sounds just.... generic. Not really a fan of it, but from what ive heard of the other stuff, sounds pretty good.

1) Those are some seriously old lyrics. You actually think Chino would write that as an adult?
2) How the fuck is Melanie generic?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: cEvin Key on Aug 01, 2011, 01:29 PM
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.

is this legit???

http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)

The style of the lyrics makes me think their going back to kind of an Adrenaline type sound. Exciting.

Though, "Melanie" to me sounds just.... generic. Not really a fan of it, but from what ive heard of the other stuff, sounds pretty good.

1) Those are some seriously old lyrics. You actually think Chino would write that as an adult?
2) How the fuck is Melanie generic?

you're go, some very adult lyrics by Chino.

http://www.metrolyrics.com/rats-rats-rats-lyrics-deftones.html (http://www.metrolyrics.com/rats-rats-rats-lyrics-deftones.html)


Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheyCallMeP on Aug 01, 2011, 05:05 PM
I've never even heard of the track Chillers, when was it recorded? (07? 08? two months ago?) Why is there no information out on it?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Aug 01, 2011, 06:08 PM
I've never even heard of the track Chillers, when was it recorded? (07? 08? two months ago?) Why is there no information out on it?

Haha, that does it now. It's a joke. Someone once created a topic to know more about that song since they had come across that lyrics007 page. But obviously, the person who posted those lyrics wanted to fuck around or just don't know their shit. There's no way Chino would have written those lyrics.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chino17 on Aug 01, 2011, 09:26 PM
so what the fuck! if this song exists ...vesanic tell us is it a good song?

i'd like to have opinions from musicians about beauty school riff and the one we can hear in the eros videos thanks // same chords
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: BillyNo.9 on Aug 02, 2011, 12:00 AM
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.

is this legit???

http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)

The style of the lyrics makes me think their going back to kind of an Adrenaline type sound. Exciting.

Though, "Melanie" to me sounds just.... generic. Not really a fan of it, but from what ive heard of the other stuff, sounds pretty good.

1) Those are some seriously old lyrics. You actually think Chino would write that as an adult?
2) How the fuck is Melanie generic?

you're go, some very adult lyrics by Chino.

http://www.metrolyrics.com/rats-rats-rats-lyrics-deftones.html (http://www.metrolyrics.com/rats-rats-rats-lyrics-deftones.html)




So deep :')
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Frequency_Chemist on Aug 02, 2011, 03:53 AM
Fuck fly ya sequel bitches!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Aug 02, 2011, 05:21 AM
so what the fuck! if this song exists ...vesanic tell us is it a good song?

It does not exist.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheyCallMeP on Aug 02, 2011, 12:54 PM
"Haha, that does it now. It's a joke. Someone once created a topic to know more about that song since they had come across that lyrics007 page."

You got me, I'll admit it haha. I was so confused that there were lyrics on google and everything but nothing mentioned here (except now) or anywhere else about the track. Well played
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Aug 02, 2011, 03:47 PM
"Haha, that does it now. It's a joke. Someone once created a topic to know more about that song since they had come across that lyrics007 page."

You got me, I'll admit it haha. I was so confused that there were lyrics on google and everything but nothing mentioned here (except now) or anywhere else about the track. Well played

i thought Chillers is the one that heard-alike "Beauty School" :|
the lyrics is totally fake, it's like Fred Durst doing it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 02, 2011, 03:49 PM
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.

is this legit???

http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)

The style of the lyrics makes me think their going back to kind of an Adrenaline type sound. Exciting.

Though, "Melanie" to me sounds just.... generic. Not really a fan of it, but from what ive heard of the other stuff, sounds pretty good.

1) Those are some seriously old lyrics. You actually think Chino would write that as an adult?
2) How the fuck is Melanie generic?

1. Well, due to some of the language in it, (EX: "Da snowboard" wtf) I had doubts.

2. I don't feel anything when i hear that song. It sounds forced to me. The rest of what ive heard though from the online clips, sounds epic.  

"Haha, that does it now. It's a joke. Someone once created a topic to know more about that song since they had come across that lyrics007 page."

You got me, I'll admit it haha. I was so confused that there were lyrics on google and everything but nothing mentioned here (except now) or anywhere else about the track. Well played
Well just as you... i discovered... I HAD BEEN HAD!!!

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: skinnypuppy on Aug 10, 2011, 08:07 AM
Fact; Deftones have a lot of incredible things that will never get released.

Sad but true. But who knows? It took the Cure and Depeche Mode a career of 30+ years to finally release pretty much everything that ever existed. Maybe this will happen with Deftones too.

Though with that said, their self-image plays a big role and they don't want the masses to see Entertain Me or hear Eros. So that's that. I've heard that Chino eventually wants Eros out but not Entertain Me. Oh well.

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ponyx on Aug 10, 2011, 08:11 AM
fucking chino and his bad decisions
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 11, 2011, 08:50 AM
fucking chino and his bad decisions
Lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Aug 11, 2011, 12:50 PM
Fact; Deftones have a lot of incredible things that will never get released.

Sad but true. But who knows? It took the Cure and Depeche Mode a career of 30+ years to finally release pretty much everything that ever existed. Maybe this will happen with Deftones too.

deftones are nowhere near as productive as cure and depeche. chino says this over and over, but i just use the crosses interview as source since it was the last time: "Chino: We pretty much got about 16 songs that we’re working on (crosses), and that we’ve committed to the record.That’s a lot for me. When The Deftones write a record, we write 12 songs, and we put 12 songs on the record."

i think we've heard most of their shit except eros
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 13, 2011, 06:46 AM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Aug 13, 2011, 10:01 AM
Wasn't he also saying that when they were writing White Pony, they wrote a bunch of songs that sounded too much like Around the Fur so they scrapped them? I bet those songs WERE FUCKING INSANE.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Aug 13, 2011, 12:12 PM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.

well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Aug 13, 2011, 08:04 PM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.

well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard

oh there's XO too from self-titled. Plus for saturday night wrist, if I read correctly, 16 songs were recorded but we've only heard 15; 12 from SNW, drive cover, jealous guy cover and Wax and wane cover. Im not sure if I am missing one
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Aug 13, 2011, 08:14 PM
i know they got a lot of covers, i meant they're not as creative as depeche and cure in writing own stuff. playing other bands material isn't creative i think.i believe the few outtakes there are - we've heard most of them, i don't think there are like 20 outtakes to each record. why would chino say all the songs they make end up on record when in fact there are like 20 complete songs to each record finished somewhere? why lie about that? why didn't some of them make the rarities cd - just covers? may be covers and riffs we haven't heard, sure, but not real songs with vocals
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Aug 13, 2011, 09:36 PM
I think by the whole we write and release 12 songs thing it probably means completed songs with chino's vocals and full production. No doubt the rest of the guys jam and write structures for countless songs but I wouldn't count them since they're unfinished. That method seems to have passed though. With diamond eyes we heard all the material except the one elusive b-side we'll never get to hear. The only things I can think of the guys have written completely and we haven't heard would be the Eros, the diamond eyes b side, scrapped material from white pony sessions (which were probably never actually finished) and scrapped songs / alternate versions from SNW. All I really want is Eros and I'm standing behind the statement I've made countless times, we will NEVER hear it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Aug 14, 2011, 01:21 PM
that sounds about right. Maybe the songs on eros that are finished with vocals will see the light of the day sometime, like an ep or in a rarities collection when the band quit. but I too highly doubt that chino would record vocals on the unfinished tracks. Prob not gonna happen, and chances are that if they keep the complete stuff when chino sang in 2008, and mix those songs with chino singing like in 2013 – finishing the rest, we might hear 2 different chino’s on one record and the cohesiveness would be way off. Like mixing adrenaline vocals with white pony vocals on one album. can't see this happen
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 17, 2011, 12:52 PM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.

well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard

oh there's XO too from self-titled. Plus for saturday night wrist, if I read correctly, 16 songs were recorded but we've only heard 15; 12 from SNW, drive cover, jealous guy cover and Wax and wane cover. Im not sure if I am missing one

There was a song meant for self titled called "XO" that wasnt released? I looked it up and all i got was "Black Moon" from B-Sides and Rarities.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Aug 18, 2011, 03:25 AM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.

well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard

oh there's XO too from self-titled. Plus for saturday night wrist, if I read correctly, 16 songs were recorded but we've only heard 15; 12 from SNW, drive cover, jealous guy cover and Wax and wane cover. Im not sure if I am missing one

There was a song meant for self titled called "XO" that wasnt released? I looked it up and all i got was "Black Moon" from B-Sides and Rarities.

Yes, its a piano composed song by Chino (not FYIHYD) from self titled sessions but it never came out.
Source: sharinglungs.com
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: elite54 on Aug 18, 2011, 03:29 AM
anyone still have that XO? i used to but i lost it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Aug 18, 2011, 05:27 AM
anyone still have that XO? i used to but i lost it.

No one's ever had it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Aug 18, 2011, 12:29 PM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.

well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard

oh there's XO too from self-titled. Plus for saturday night wrist, if I read correctly, 16 songs were recorded but we've only heard 15; 12 from SNW, drive cover, jealous guy cover and Wax and wane cover. Im not sure if I am missing one

There was a song meant for self titled called "XO" that wasnt released? I looked it up and all i got was "Black Moon" from B-Sides and Rarities.

Yes, its a piano composed song by Chino (not FYIHYD) from self titled sessions but it never came out.
Source: sharinglungs.com

wasnt that white woman?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: elite54 on Aug 18, 2011, 12:37 PM
i must've just had it named xo. probably turned into fyihyd at some point.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 18, 2011, 01:07 PM
anyone still have that XO? i used to but i lost it.

No one's ever had it.

I think he meant is there anywhere we can listen to it now.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Aug 18, 2011, 01:36 PM
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/preview.ky1MaGOwkobOZjfe_500.jpg)  ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 18, 2011, 01:40 PM
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/preview.ky1MaGOwkobOZjfe_500.jpg)  ;D
IF ONLY IT WAS THAT EASY
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Aug 18, 2011, 07:13 PM
anyone still have that XO? i used to but i lost it.

No one's ever had it.

I think he meant is there anywhere we can listen to it now.

If no one has ever had it. What do you think the answer to that is?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Aug 18, 2011, 07:25 PM
anyone still have that XO? i used to but i lost it.

No one's ever had it.

I think he meant is there anywhere we can listen to it now.

If no one has ever had it. What do you think the answer to that is?

deftonesworld.com?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Robotsatemygrandma on Aug 18, 2011, 07:37 PM
I vaguely remember hearing White Woman years ago.

I had no idea XO was a song... maybe it's a scratch track or something random to entice all us 'tones nerds. I know a few bands do that shit. Hell my old band did it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Aug 18, 2011, 07:49 PM
I think it was in those 2007's tour videos Deftones used to post back then where you see Chino talking to the guy who's filming (I think it's Frank Gatto), and Chino mentions two piano songs which are FYIHYD and XO and says that he never released XO and probably never will.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Aug 19, 2011, 01:59 AM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.

well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard

oh there's XO too from self-titled. Plus for saturday night wrist, if I read correctly, 16 songs were recorded but we've only heard 15; 12 from SNW, drive cover, jealous guy cover and Wax and wane cover. Im not sure if I am missing one

There was a song meant for self titled called "XO" that wasnt released? I looked it up and all i got was "Black Moon" from B-Sides and Rarities.

Yes, its a piano composed song by Chino (not FYIHYD) from self titled sessions but it never came out.
Source: sharinglungs.com

wasnt that white woman?

White Woman was the working title for Needles and Pins
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Aug 19, 2011, 08:21 AM
Well ok guys, I think it's time to do something for y'all. I've kept this thing hidden 'cause the guy who gave me this told me to but I just have to share this with y'all, no matter what he's gonna say about that. It's XO, that other piano song. It was supposed to be re-worked and go on Eros but anyway, here's that piano thingie. Dark and depressive just like FYIHYD, you're gonna love it:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NQIJVW5 (http://www.lemonparty.org)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: tarkil on Aug 19, 2011, 09:08 AM
I don't find it really depressing actually !! I would even say that it puts a smile on my face...   :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Robotsatemygrandma on Aug 19, 2011, 11:31 PM
Well ok guys, I think it's time to do something for y'all. I've kept this thing hidden 'cause the guy who gave me this told me to but I just have to share this with y'all, no matter what he's gonna say about that. It's XO, that other piano song. It was supposed to be re-worked and go on Eros but anyway, here's that piano thingie. Dark and depressive just like FYIHYD, you're gonna love it:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NQIJVW5 (http://www.lemonparty.org)

GAH! You got me!

But at least there was a hot chick taking her shirt off in the advertisement on the side lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 20, 2011, 06:14 AM
Well ok guys, I think it's time to do something for y'all. I've kept this thing hidden 'cause the guy who gave me this told me to but I just have to share this with y'all, no matter what he's gonna say about that. It's XO, that other piano song. It was supposed to be re-worked and go on Eros but anyway, here's that piano thingie. Dark and depressive just like FYIHYD, you're gonna love it:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NQIJVW5 (http://www.lemonparty.org)

I took one look for less than a second and literally went blind.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: BillyNo.9 on Aug 20, 2011, 06:16 AM
Fuck V I fell for it again you asshole :|
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Aug 21, 2011, 09:46 AM
IN the self-titled videos theres a piece of a song playing, before it goes into an introduction to a jam of hexagram in the studio......a file floats around with that piece by the name "XO"...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2011, 08:21 PM
IN the self-titled videos theres a piece of a song playing, before it goes into an introduction to a jam of hexagram in the studio......a file floats around with that piece by the name "XO"...

Yeah but that's a mislabelling I'm pretty sure. I guess it's just a random jam thing by the boys. XO and FYIHYD are SNW process dated, I believe, so that wouldn't make sense.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Aug 21, 2011, 08:45 PM
IN the self-titled videos theres a piece of a song playing, before it goes into an introduction to a jam of hexagram in the studio......a file floats around with that piece by the name "XO"...

Yeah but that's a mislabelling I'm pretty sure. I guess it's just a random jam thing by the boys. XO and FYIHYD are SNW process dated, I believe, so that wouldn't make sense.

Oh I was under the impression that XO was a self-titled outtake from I read here in the past. If what your saying is correct then that  confirms what I said about a SNW interview. If I remember correctly, it was chino who mentioned they have written 16 songs for SNW, 12 for the main record, Jealous guy cover, drive cover and the wax and wane cover which adds up to 15 making XO the final 16th track.

I remember another one where abe said they would have to vote what songs will go on the record..ill try and dig those interviews up

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Aug 21, 2011, 09:02 PM
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Aug 21, 2011, 09:06 PM
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/preview.ky1MaGOwkobOZjfe_500.jpg)  ;D

Hahahahahaha, good shit. Ranks after Robo buzz saw
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Aug 21, 2011, 11:19 PM
IN the self-titled videos theres a piece of a song playing, before it goes into an introduction to a jam of hexagram in the studio......a file floats around with that piece by the name "XO"...

Yeah but that's a mislabelling I'm pretty sure. I guess it's just a random jam thing by the boys. XO and FYIHYD are SNW process dated, I believe, so that wouldn't make sense.

Oh I was under the impression that XO was a self-titled outtake from I read here in the past. If what your saying is correct then that  confirms what I said about a SNW interview. If I remember correctly, it was chino who mentioned they have written 16 songs for SNW, 12 for the main record, Jealous guy cover, drive cover and the wax and wane cover which adds up to 15 making XO the final 16th track.

I remember another one where abe said they would have to vote what songs will go on the record..ill try and dig those interviews up



According to this interview by Abe in 2006 take from deftonesworld.com, http://www.deftonesworld.com/interview-deftones-mtv-2006.htm (http://www.deftonesworld.com/interview-deftones-mtv-2006.htm)

Ye old Saturday Night Wrist had 17 songs on completion, not 16:

"It's been over a year since the Deftones left Pink Floyd producer Bob Ezrin's snow-swathed home studio in Connecticut for the sun-drenched sands of balmy Malibu, California, where they've since re-examined, tweaked and re-recorded the material they'd managed to put to tape before the cold got the best of them. At this stage, Deftones have 17 songs on the verge of completion. Frontman - and perfectionist - Chino Moreno is still tracking vocals for the new tunes. "

We've only heard 15 and FYIHYD is during the SNW era as well so that leaves just one!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Aug 22, 2011, 01:22 AM
What about the Ezrin demos? There were a lot of songs there. Who knows if Chino ever even sang on any of the ones that didn't make it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Aug 23, 2011, 05:26 AM
What about the Ezrin demos? There were a lot of songs there. Who knows if Chino ever even sang on any of the ones that didn't make it.

Its possible, for example there's the Buffalo/FOD instrumental that Chino and Serj were suppose to work on but opted to work on Mein instead.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: XJohnnyX on Aug 24, 2011, 12:48 AM
why is this still discussed?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 24, 2011, 08:58 AM
What about the Ezrin demos? There were a lot of songs there. Who knows if Chino ever even sang on any of the ones that didn't make it.

Its possible, for example there's the Buffalo/FOD instrumental that Chino and Serj were suppose to work on but opted to work on Mein instead.
Most epicly stupid choice ever.

why is this still discussed?

Because we want to hear and know about these songs.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sphynx on Sep 23, 2011, 01:14 AM
in that interview with abe, which i remember, it says abe expects the album to have a dozen tracks (including one called "america"). does anyone know which one was going to be titled "america" and got the title changed or was it one of the demos? or of course there's a possibility none of us know.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Corleone on Sep 23, 2011, 01:42 AM
pretty sure america is combat
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Sep 23, 2011, 02:11 AM
I'm sure America is rats, I rember asking steph via a webstream.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2011, 03:40 AM
I'm sure America is rats, I rember asking steph via a webstream.

Correct.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Sep 24, 2011, 01:26 PM
What about the Ezrin demos? There were a lot of songs there. Who knows if Chino ever even sang on any of the ones that didn't make it.

Its possible, for example there's the Buffalo/FOD instrumental that Chino and Serj were suppose to work on but opted to work on Mein instead.

Most epicly stupid choice ever.


i love buffalo/fod and think leaving it out of snw was a really bad choice, but to have serj singing on this beautiful song with his awful goofy voice would totally ruin the song and the atmosphere on it. then i'm better off with no studio version at all. i'm glad he sang on mein insted
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2011, 05:05 PM
Wait, what ? I know System of a Down is not for everybody but don't tell me Serj Tankian is not a good vocalist, that's just plain dumb.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Sep 24, 2011, 06:15 PM
as you probably know,i didn't say he can't sing, just that i don't like his voice and style at all. for example, ther're skilled opera singers who can sing too, but that doesn't mean it sounds good to everyones ears. are you fine with anyone singing on a deftones record as long as they can sing?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2011, 07:13 PM
You said he had a goofy voice, that's wrong. Yeah in a good part of SOAD songs he sings in a sarcastic ridiculous manner but that's on purpose, out of that he has a really lovely voice.

System Of A Down - Chop Suey! live (HD/DVD Quality) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GwQubYvI9A#ws)

Watch from 2:38 to 2:58, and especially at 2:44... If you don't like it, well, fine, and I admit that's not even how he sings now, he doesn't sound as good today, but can you really call that goofy ?


And I've never said I was okay with anyone singing on a Deftones song as long as they can sing ? No, I don't even know why you're bringing that up. Thinking for everyone as always, right ? :)

And the fact Serj is a good vocalist to me doesn't mean I think he would fit in a Deftones song. And I actually don't.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Sep 24, 2011, 11:36 PM
he has a really lovely voice

that's as "wrong" as me saying he sounds goofy. just opinions. i think serj sounds goofy,silly when he sings -even when he tries to sound serious. awful to my ears, certainly wouldn't want that shit in buffalo.don't like the sound of his voice even if he can hit notes.goofy doesn't mean that he can't sing - like justin hawkins in darkness, he can sing too but it sounds goofy
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Sep 25, 2011, 01:04 AM
i don't really think serj is a good singer at all but i love SOAD and i love his voice as part of SOAD... his solo stuff is garbage. i think he'd have done well with a bigger part in mein. my real gripe with him in that song is its only 5 fucking words so it's completely useless.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: m on Sep 25, 2011, 06:58 PM
Chi said in a Polish interview in 2006 that Serj wrote the vocal line to the whole song but Chino left only that shitty part.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: asshole on Oct 01, 2011, 02:21 PM
i still want to hear .white woman. Cause the snippet that nun posted years ago was bit different on vocals... And i think he had that whole track.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 01, 2011, 03:26 PM
I thought White Woman was Needles and Pins ?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Oct 02, 2011, 03:37 AM
i still want to hear .white woman. Cause the snippet that nun posted years ago was bit different on vocals... And i think he had that whole track.

Its the same song except the vocals were mixed differently. That goes for all the snippets from the self-titled sessions. I believe this was discussed in the S/T demos thread so you may want to look through that.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Oct 03, 2011, 06:35 AM
Anyone have any info on the song in this specific clip? Maybe "Chillers" or "Trempest"?

Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk#)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Oct 03, 2011, 12:05 PM
Chillers is a real Deftones song just like (Amnisty > Not a deftones song!) is a real Deftones songs. Meaning it isn't.

Could be Trempest, though.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Oct 04, 2011, 12:32 AM
Chillers is a real Deftones song just like ((Amnisty > Not a deftones song!) > Not a deftones song!) is a real Deftones songs. Meaning it isn't.

Could be Trempest, though.

Oh CHI said that "Trempest" is a really really heavy song. He also said somethin about the drums being insane on that track too
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Oct 04, 2011, 05:51 PM
Chillers is a real Deftones song just like ((Amnisty > Not a deftones song!) > Not a deftones song!) is a real Deftones songs. Meaning it isn't.

Could be Trempest, though.

I thought the song title was real, and the lyrics were fake.

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wheresmysnare on Oct 05, 2011, 12:16 AM
Chillers?

That is such a shit song title, sounds like it was made up by a retarded fan.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Oct 05, 2011, 12:20 AM
Chillers?

That is such a shit song title, sounds like it was made up by a retarded fan.

That's probably because it was. This has been discussed here so many times that I shouldn't even have to say this. The title and (shitty) lyrics were never mentioned or hinted at by the band in any capacity, official or otherwise. Can we PLEASE put this whole retarded Chillers thing to rest now? It doesn't exist, it's not an Eros song, it's not even a fucking deftones song. I'm sick of hearing about it. Trempest = real, Chillers = mislabeled retarded lyrics probably put up by a moron under the deftones name to draw attention to it. Case muthafuckin' closed.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Oct 05, 2011, 04:50 AM
Chillers?

That is such a shit song title, sounds like it was made up by a retarded fan.

That's probably because it was. This has been discussed here so many times that I shouldn't even have to say this. The title and (shitty) lyrics were never mentioned or hinted at by the band in any capacity, official or otherwise. Can we PLEASE put this whole retarded Chillers thing to rest now? It doesn't exist, it's not an Eros song, it's not even a fucking deftones song. I'm sick of hearing about it. Trempest = real, Chillers = mislabeled retarded lyrics probably put up by a moron under the deftones name to draw attention to it. Case muthafuckin' closed.

Well the tentative title of "When Girls Telephone Boys" was "Bukakke" so i wouldnt put it past them.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wheresmysnare on Oct 05, 2011, 08:34 PM
Yeah but that would be a funny working title. Chillers however is something millhouse would come up with in a failed attempt to be cool
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Oct 06, 2011, 01:45 AM
Yeah but that would be a funny working title. Chillers however is something millhouse would come up with in a failed attempt to be cool
HAHAHAHAAH
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 06, 2011, 02:43 AM
Yeah but that would be a funny working title. Chillers however is something millhouse would come up with in a failed attempt to be cool
HAHAHAHAAH

What he said haha.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Redsun on Oct 12, 2011, 11:10 AM
interview with sergio vega | http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=73907592#post73907592 (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=73907592#post73907592)

I take it you’ve heard Eros. How does that stuff differ from Diamond Eyes?

I’ve heard a few songs. It’s not a lot different. I can’t really explain it. It sounds like the Deftones and goes back to the way every Deftones album is unique. No two Deftones albums are the same. Stephen said it well once where it’s a concept of where you’re at because everyone is constantly evolving. When you make a record, it literally becomes a snapshot of that place in time where you’re living at. It definitely sounds a lot thicker than the Diamond Eyes stuff. The Diamond Eyes songs are pretty short and get to the point. The Eros songs I heard were longer and they had more stuff going on.

Are there still plans to release that at some point?

I think the plan is that it definitely should see the light of day at some point that feels right when it’s not so much married to a tragedy. It should be able to speak for itself. The collection of songs are really good in it, so I think it’s going to come out when enough time has passed and you’re enabled to look at the material in a different way.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Oct 12, 2011, 02:22 PM

I think the plan is that it definitely should see the light of day at some point that feels right when it’s not so much married to a tragedy.


which is never. you're never going to be able to think about eros without instantly connecting it to what happened to chi. it's the last thing he worked on and people are not going to be able to see past that.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 12, 2011, 06:18 PM
yeah definetely never
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: thetongue on Oct 12, 2011, 06:49 PM
What I don't get is that they're trying to raise all this money for Chi--why don't they release this album and donate most of the proceeds to his foundation? I'm sure that the album will do well.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wheresmysnare on Oct 12, 2011, 07:59 PM
What I don't get is that they're trying to raise all this money for Chi--why don't they release this album and donate most of the proceeds to his foundation? I'm sure that the album will do well.

it isn't finished
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: BillyNo.9 on Oct 12, 2011, 08:01 PM
What I don't get is that they're trying to raise all this money for Chi--why don't they release this album and donate most of the proceeds to his foundation? I'm sure that the album will do well.

it isn't finished
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nicklav on Oct 12, 2011, 08:03 PM
Doesn't it only require Chino to finish half of the songs?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: BillyNo.9 on Oct 12, 2011, 08:37 PM
Most of the songs, and yeah pretty much. They'd have to convince him to do it, but I don't think  he'd want to. He don't like going back to things they've done in the past. Mixing and editing would still need to be done. I'd rather the album be released now, in whatver state it is rather then them going back to it now and making it sound all Dimaond Eye-ish
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Oct 13, 2011, 08:08 AM
interview with sergio vega | http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=73907592#post73907592 (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=73907592#post73907592)

I take it you’ve heard Eros. How does that stuff differ from Diamond Eyes?

I’ve heard a few songs. It’s not a lot different. I can’t really explain it. It sounds like the Deftones and goes back to the way every Deftones album is unique. No two Deftones albums are the same. Stephen said it well once where it’s a concept of where you’re at because everyone is constantly evolving. When you make a record, it literally becomes a snapshot of that place in time where you’re living at. It definitely sounds a lot thicker than the Diamond Eyes stuff. The Diamond Eyes songs are pretty short and get to the point. The Eros songs I heard were longer and they had more stuff going on.

Are there still plans to release that at some point?

I think the plan is that it definitely should see the light of day at some point that feels right when it’s not so much married to a tragedy. It should be able to speak for itself. The collection of songs are really good in it, so I think it’s going to come out when enough time has passed and you’re enabled to look at the material in a different way.


I hope hes not right about the "it doesnt sound much different" from Diamond Eyes part. Hes probably not, due to the fact that Chino has stated several times its supposed to be a *WEIRD* album, and Diamond Eyes is the antithesis of "unorthodox", "heavy", "psychedelic", or any other terms they have associated with Eros.

Doesn't it only require Chino to finish half of the songs?

Not even half, I watched an interview from 2010 recently (which i think is somewhere posted here), and Chino said only a *few* songs need full vocal tracks. A few to me is two or three. Not half. He also said they haven't exactly sat down and listened to Eros and discussed/picked whats good and whats not, which a lot of time has passed. They must have listened to it by now if its already 2011.

With that, I think its kind of a hint that Eros will never be officially released if they made time after the production of Saturday Night Wrist to listen to its demos (the sixteen ones released online, with "Buffalo" and the other instrumentals) which they didn't even intend to make official songs, yet they don't have time now to listen to Eros which they supposedly want to *eventually* release?

Most of the songs, and yeah pretty much. They'd have to convince him to do it, but I don't think  he'd want to. He don't like going back to things they've done in the past. Mixing and editing would still need to be done. I'd rather the album be released now, in whatver state it is rather then them going back to it now and making it sound all Dimaond Eye-ish

This is exactly my feelings on it.

 







Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Oct 13, 2011, 08:42 AM
Well, we know of five songs for Eros:

(unknown song, "Trempest"?)

Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn_OT-Jh4Y#)
Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk&feature=related#)

"Melanie"

Deftones - Melanie ( New Song ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo&feature=related#)


(unknown song, "Dallas" maybe?)

Deftones mix Eros [Rehersal] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_gTixsrhU&feature=related#)


(unknown song, possibly just effects for a full track?, or "Destiny"?)

Deftines eros in studio 2008 Clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vtD81rcMI&feature=related#)


(unknown song, obviously needs a new title  ;D)

Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#)



Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 13, 2011, 12:49 PM
Your all guess are wrong.
The clip 3 and 4 is obviously ''the finger of death'' as a b-side of the record
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Oct 13, 2011, 03:53 PM
"It’s not a lot different" and "No two Deftones albums are the same" are a bit contradictory but i think it's the first time that someone that wasn't part of the making of eros, talk about how it sounds. so i'm content with anything like this. the "sounds a lot like d.e" thing was a little of a shocker i think. but that's it, surly sergio isn't the man who can say or speculate when or if eros is gonna be relased, not up to him when he wasn't involve in it at all
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 13, 2011, 07:32 PM
Your all guess are wrong.
The clip 3 and 4 is obviously ''the finger of death'' as a b-side of the record

I wouldn't say " obviously ", but yeah, both sound like the last part of the Finger of Death instrumental demo.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 13, 2011, 07:33 PM
(unknown song, "Dallas" maybe?)

Deftones mix Eros [Rehersal] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_gTixsrhU&feature=related#)

This is a fan-made, created using this:

Deftones - Eros song rehearsal snippet [Eros writing sessions] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FamY_kN2E4Y#ws)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chino17 on Oct 13, 2011, 08:08 PM
(unknown song, "Dallas" maybe?)

Deftones mix Eros [Rehersal] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_gTixsrhU&feature=related#)

This is a fan-made, created using this:

Deftones - Eros song rehearsal snippet [Eros writing sessions] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FamY_kN2E4Y#ws)


same chords as beauty school!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Oct 13, 2011, 10:51 PM
(unknown song, "Dallas" maybe?)

Deftones mix Eros [Rehersal] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_gTixsrhU&feature=related#)

This is a fan-made, created using this:

Deftones - Eros song rehearsal snippet [Eros writing sessions] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FamY_kN2E4Y#ws)

But not just that, also the version which you hear at the beginning of the in studio clips.

Your all guess are wrong.
The clip 3 and 4 is obviously ''the finger of death'' as a b-side of the record

I wouldn't say " obviously ", but yeah, both sound like the last part of the Finger of Death instrumental demo.

I highly doubt that they would re-work "Finger of Death/Buffalo" and put it on Eros. Even though there is a slight similarity, the part of it they played in clip 3 has some effects/reverb to the riff which doesnt sound anything like FOD.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Oct 27, 2011, 11:45 PM
At one point there was a song called "Blue Tears" floating around and some people thought it might have been from Deftones as a demo for Eros or something, and when I listened to it recently, I actually noticed it bears a bit of a resemblance to "Risk" which is on Diamond Eyes. A hint?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 28, 2011, 01:05 AM
I remember that, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Deftones related after all.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Oct 31, 2011, 06:43 AM
Idk why but i always kind of imagined the cover of Eros being similar to Killing Joke's "Revelations" cover.


(http://[url=http://en.metalship.org/archives/albums/album12593.jpg]http://en.metalship.org/archives/albums/album12593.jpg[/url])
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Nov 01, 2011, 08:16 PM
Your all guess are wrong.
The clip 3 and 4 is obviously ''the finger of death'' as a b-side of the record

I wouldn't say " obviously ", but yeah, both sound like the last part of the Finger of Death instrumental demo.

it's completely different :| really
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kitesvera on Nov 02, 2011, 01:06 AM
whats funny is I actually had the tracklist to Eros with all the stripper names as song names, Ill be damned if i can find it though
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 02, 2011, 04:20 AM
whats funny is I actually had the tracklist to Eros with all the stripper names as song names, Ill be damned if i can find it though

You mean you had the *whole* tracklist? Because if that's not what you mean, we already know of a few song names. (Melanie, Dallas, Destiny, and Trempest)

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 04, 2011, 11:18 AM
Didn't Sergio say that the Eros songs were more complex and had "a lot more going on"? This made me think maybe we'd be getting some Faith No More/Mr. Bungle type mid song rhythm changes. I could see this happening actually kind of. Of course much more subtle, but with the way what we've heard sounds I can see it.       
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Nov 04, 2011, 04:19 PM
I think there was a photo similar to the DE sessions board (you know, the one with Sleestack, Prince Michael and Yum Yum) for Eros. Not as many songs, though. Only eight. If I'm not mistaking, Asia was another working title.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: m on Nov 04, 2011, 06:52 PM
Mercedes was also there on the board.


edit; I found some titles from taht board in the other thread here on SL:
-Mercedes
-Melanie
-Brenda
-Cindi
-Destiny
-Asia
-Griaun(?)
-Candy
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 05, 2011, 09:56 AM
I think there was a photo similar to the DE sessions board (you know, the one with Sleestack, Prince Michael and Yum Yum) for Eros. Not as many songs, though. Only eight. If I'm not mistaking, Asia was another working title.

Mercedes was also there on the board.

Wait huh?

So they actually released a photo during the making of Eros of the sessions board? And "Asia" and "Mercedes" were two of the names?  

Well, if "Melanie", "Trempest", "Destiny", and "Dallas" weren't on the board, then that means we would pretty much have all the tentative names of all Eros tracks if someone could find that picture. That also means Eros has at least 12 tracks.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Nov 05, 2011, 04:51 PM
I think there was a photo similar to the DE sessions board (you know, the one with Sleestack, Prince Michael and Yum Yum) for Eros. Not as many songs, though. Only eight. If I'm not mistaking, Asia was another working title.

Mercedes was also there on the board.

Wait huh?

So they actually released a photo during the making of Eros of the sessions board? And "Asia" and "Mercedes" were two of the names? 

Well, if "Melanie", "Trempest", "Destiny", and "Dallas" weren't on the board, then that means we would pretty much have all the tentative names of all Eros tracks if someone could find that picture. That also means Eros has at least 12 tracks.

That makes sense, 12 official tracks. The usual deftones standard.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 06, 2011, 03:13 AM
Found it:


http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm)

http://http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg)

"There are 8 tracks on this picture (temporary?) Of Eros, the future album.

Mercedes, Melanie (already played live), Brenda, Cindi, Destiny, Asia, Briana Candy and thus confirm that the story of an album with just the names of strippers was not a schoolboy prank. ^ ^

After that, there is no guarantee that these "titles" will be reflected in the final album will be remembered, for example, New Murderer become Feiticeira of Tilde become Xerces ..."

So I guess now then we can say that the official track list for Eros was (at least at the time):

1. You've Seen The Butcher (this demo released on Deftones myspace page, not the D.E. version: Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#))
2. Destiny
3. Dallas
4. Melanie
5. Trempest
6. Mercedes
7. Brenda
8. Cindi
9. Asia
10. Briana
11. Candy

And if the album has 11 tracks, then we've already heard little snippets of four of them, and the full live version of one of them, so there's still six songs we have no idea about.

Thoughts?



Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 06, 2011, 09:55 AM
I can imagine "Destiny" being an electronic song, "Candy" being kind of creepy and slow, and "Trempest" having almost tribal type drums.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Nov 06, 2011, 11:00 AM
this has been posted before..its just some stupid beats, not about deftones
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 06, 2011, 05:02 PM
this has been posted before..its just some stupid beats, not about deftones


Yes, it is Deftones. It was posted on their MySpace with the title " You've Seen The Butcher ", circa 2008 if I'm correct.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Nov 06, 2011, 08:06 PM
Trempest is the weirdest stripper name ever.

Supposedly Destiny is the song at the beginning of each Eros snippet videos aka the song that everyone thinks morphed into Beauty School.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 07, 2011, 03:37 AM
Trempest is the weirdest stripper name ever.

Supposedly Destiny is the song at the beginning of each Eros snippet videos aka the song that everyone thinks morphed into Beauty School.

Its a real name I think.

Where did this information come from?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 07, 2011, 04:10 AM
Found it:


http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm)

http://http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg)

"There are 8 tracks on this picture (temporary?) Of Eros, the future album.

Mercedes, Melanie (already played live), Brenda, Cindi, Destiny, Asia, Briana Candy and thus confirm that the story of an album with just the names of strippers was not a schoolboy prank. ^ ^

After that, there is no guarantee that these "titles" will be reflected in the final album will be remembered, for example, New Murderer become Feiticeira of Tilde become Xerces ..."

So I guess now then we can say that the official track list for Eros was (at least at the time):

1. You've Seen The Butcher (this demo released on Deftones myspace page, not the D.E. version: Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#))
2. Destiny
3. Dallas
4. Melanie
5. Trempest
6. Mercedes
7. Brenda
8. Cindi
9. Asia
10. Briana
11. Candy

And if the album has 11 tracks, then we've already heard little snippets of four of them, and the full live version of one of them, so there's still six songs we have no idea about.

Thoughts?





Also, these eight songs were probably the ones Chino was talking about which were written in only two weeks.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Nov 08, 2011, 02:56 AM
Found it:


http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm)

http://http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg)

"There are 8 tracks on this picture (temporary?) Of Eros, the future album.

Mercedes, Melanie (already played live), Brenda, Cindi, Destiny, Asia, Briana Candy and thus confirm that the story of an album with just the names of strippers was not a schoolboy prank. ^ ^

After that, there is no guarantee that these "titles" will be reflected in the final album will be remembered, for example, New Murderer become Feiticeira of Tilde become Xerces ..."

So I guess now then we can say that the official track list for Eros was (at least at the time):

1. You've Seen The Butcher (this demo released on Deftones myspace page, not the D.E. version: Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#))
2. Destiny
3. Dallas
4. Melanie
5. Trempest
6. Mercedes
7. Brenda
8. Cindi
9. Asia
10. Briana
11. Candy

And if the album has 11 tracks, then we've already heard little snippets of four of them, and the full live version of one of them, so there's still six songs we have no idea about.

Thoughts?





Also, these eight songs were probably the ones Chino was talking about which were written in only two weeks.

Wow thats quite fast. I think the fastest they've written a group of songs all together compared to their previous records. Can someone confirm?!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 08, 2011, 03:58 AM
sure about this? chino said that songwriting was unfocused on eros and that much studio time was spent socializing and becoming friends again. playing poker, the board game risk and what not ^ they began writing early in 2007 and they planned to release the album in late 2008, which later was delayed to 2009. I thought it was a fairly slow process compared to atf and d.e. you're not thinking of d.e?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2011, 04:47 AM
sure about this? chino said that songwriting was unfocused on eros and that much studio time was spent socializing and becoming friends again. playing poker, the board game risk and what not ^ they began writing early in 2007 and they planned to release the album in late 2008, which later was delayed to 2009. I thought it was a fairly slow process compared to atf and d.e. you're not thinking of d.e?

Actually now that I think about it and have read it again, I'm not sure if he was talking about D.E. or Eros:


"Eros is sacred and special to us and, at this point, it’s the last thing that Chi has played on, but I really felt like looking forward. After the first two weeks, we had about eight songs. On the last few records, it took us a year to get that much material. And it happened naturally. It was great.”
Moreno had had issues with Eros, enjoying its experimental edge but fearing its songwriting was too untidy. He wanted to improve that on what would become their new album, Diamond Eyes. At least part of the reason for that was because he had come to a startling realisation."

I don't think the making of Eros was particularly slow, as if it was, it would seem it would be just like White Pony, S/T, and SNW in the sense that it dragged on. So I imagine it was *relatively* fast.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Nov 08, 2011, 10:18 AM
once again, i believe 70-80% of DE material are  from EROS session, thats what make the record finished sooo fast (for the tones). if they did have the 'fast writing process' , we should already heard teaser for new single in mid 2012, i believe.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2011, 10:18 AM
Found this interview, Abe says that they were in the middle of mixing Eros when they halted production, and that Chino only had a *few thing* to finish up vocally, as well as the art work was almost completed.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2011, 10:20 AM
once again, i believe 70-80% of DE material are  from EROS session, thats what make the record finished sooo fast (for the tones). if they did have the 'fast writing process' , we should already heard teaser for new single in mid 2012, i believe.

But Diamond Eyes doesn't sound unorthodox to me at all. Thats the problem with that hypothesis.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Nov 08, 2011, 10:27 AM
once again, i believe 70-80% of DE material are  from EROS session, thats what make the record finished sooo fast (for the tones). if they did have the 'fast writing process' , we should already heard teaser for new single in mid 2012, i believe.

But Diamond Eyes doesn't sound unorthodox to me at all. Thats the problem with that hypothesis.

according to what Sergio said, DE quiet sounds like EROS. Do you remember the Bob Ezrin demos? thats really unorthodox to me, but when the SNW comes out.... meh... I think that's what happened to DE + Sergio came in and add some touch to the songs.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2011, 10:54 AM
once again, i believe 70-80% of DE material are  from EROS session, thats what make the record finished sooo fast (for the tones). if they did have the 'fast writing process' , we should already heard teaser for new single in mid 2012, i believe.

But Diamond Eyes doesn't sound unorthodox to me at all. Thats the problem with that hypothesis.

according to what Sergio said, DE quiet sounds like EROS. Do you remember the Bob Ezrin demos? thats really unorthodox to me, but when the SNW comes out.... meh... I think that's what happened to DE + Sergio came in and add some touch to the songs.

I'd like to not believe Sergio. All the members of Deftones seem to have a knack for contradicting themselves many times over the course of one interview, so Sergio has just been hanging around Chino and the gang too much.  :D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 08, 2011, 06:00 PM
sure about this? chino said that songwriting was unfocused on eros and that much studio time was spent socializing and becoming friends again. playing poker, the board game risk and what not ^ they began writing early in 2007 and they planned to release the album in late 2008, which later was delayed to 2009. I thought it was a fairly slow process compared to atf and d.e. you're not thinking of d.e?

Actually now that I think about it and have read it again, I'm not sure if he was talking about D.E. or Eros:


"Eros is sacred and special to us and, at this point, it’s the last thing that Chi has played on, but I really felt like looking forward. After the first two weeks, we had about eight songs. On the last few records, it took us a year to get that much material. And it happened naturally. It was great.”
Moreno had had issues with Eros, enjoying its experimental edge but fearing its songwriting was too untidy. He wanted to improve that on what would become their new album, Diamond Eyes. At least part of the reason for that was because he had come to a startling realisation."

I don't think the making of Eros was particularly slow, as if it was, it would seem it would be just like White Pony, S/T, and SNW in the sense that it dragged on. So I imagine it was *relatively* fast.

definitley eros they talked about. i just didn't remember them saying so. but like always, they switch the story from time to time  :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Nov 08, 2011, 06:43 PM
once again, i believe 70-80% of DE material are  from EROS session, thats what make the record finished sooo fast (for the tones). if they did have the 'fast writing process' , we should already heard teaser for new single in mid 2012, i believe.

But Diamond Eyes doesn't sound unorthodox to me at all. Thats the problem with that hypothesis.

according to what Sergio said, DE quiet sounds like EROS. Do you remember the Bob Ezrin demos? thats really unorthodox to me, but when the SNW comes out.... meh... I think that's what happened to DE + Sergio came in and add some touch to the songs.

According to what Chino says, Eros sounds NOTHING like Diamond Eyes. (http://www.spin.com/articles/studio-deftones (http://www.spin.com/articles/studio-deftones))  Check out everything he says... he basically contradicts Sergio completely.  I'm more apt to believe Chino, honestly...   

"...we still have Eros. It's a really experimental, dark record for us..."
"But when the accident happened, we just didn't want to be in that time anymore. We had to start looking to the future. We needed to create something more optimistic."

So by definition I would assume EROS is more like S/T (dark, experimental), and Diamond Eyes was a more optimistic, poppy record ON PURPOSE.  For a reason.  Not to sell out and gain a larger fan base, but rather to reflect the kind of vibe they wanted to bring.  They wanted optimism, they wanted happy thoughts, for Chi's sake.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sooniletugo on Nov 08, 2011, 11:55 PM
How do we know that song similar to Beauty School is called Destiny? I just love that song though... sounds amazing. I hope we hear Eros in the near future.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 09, 2011, 12:02 AM


So by definition I would assume EROS is more like S/T (dark, experimental),

I really hope your right.  ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Nov 09, 2011, 12:10 AM
How do we know that song similar to Beauty School is called Destiny? I just love that song though... sounds amazing. I hope we hear Eros in the near future.

Someone close to the band told me.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 09, 2011, 12:23 AM
How do we know that song similar to Beauty School is called Destiny? I just love that song though... sounds amazing. I hope we hear Eros in the near future.

Someone close to the band told me.

HOW CLOSE?  :o
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 09, 2011, 12:23 AM
How do we know that song similar to Beauty School is called Destiny? I just love that song though... sounds amazing. I hope we hear Eros in the near future.

Someone close to the band told me.

What ? I didn't tell you anything... ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 09, 2011, 12:29 AM
I have a confession to make.....

I'm Terry Date's cousins brother in laws sons wife's daughters boyfriends uncles teachers friends aunts employee.

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kitesvera on Nov 09, 2011, 12:43 AM
I still cant believe people are talking about DE being most of the Eros sessions. Go ask Shaun Lopez on facebook chat, seriously. He told me himself that Eros, was the record he preferred in comparison to DE. He also told me that nothing for Eros is on Diamond Eyes. How hard is to grasp that they just stopped with Eros, shelved it, and wrote an entirely new batch of songs with Sergio, that became Diamond Eyes. Is it really that hard to understand. And no matter how many people think so, the music in the one video that people think is Beauty School, is not Beauty School. Similar sounding, yes. Same song, no. Deftones, Sergio and Shaun Lopez have all stated as fact that Eros, is a completely different record from Diamond Eyes. Those are the facts.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 09, 2011, 12:51 AM
I still cant believe people are talking about DE being most of the Eros sessions. Go ask Shaun Lopez on facebook chat, seriously. He told me himself that Eros, was the record he preferred in comparison to DE. He also told me that nothing for Eros is on Diamond Eyes. How hard is to grasp that they just stopped with Eros, shelved it, and wrote an entirely new batch of songs with Sergio, that became Diamond Eyes. Is it really that hard to understand. And no matter how many people think so, the music in the one video that people think is Beauty School, is not Beauty School. Similar sounding, yes. Same song, no. Deftones, Sergio and Shaun Lopez have all stated as fact that Eros, is a completely different record from Diamond Eyes. Those are the facts.

thumbs up
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Nov 09, 2011, 01:23 AM
I still cant believe people are talking about DE being most of the Eros sessions. Go ask Shaun Lopez on facebook chat, seriously. He told me himself that Eros, was the record he preferred in comparison to DE. He also told me that nothing for Eros is on Diamond Eyes. How hard is to grasp that they just stopped with Eros, shelved it, and wrote an entirely new batch of songs with Sergio, that became Diamond Eyes. Is it really that hard to understand. And no matter how many people think so, the music in the one video that people think is Beauty School, is not Beauty School. Similar sounding, yes. Same song, no. Deftones, Sergio and Shaun Lopez have all stated as fact that Eros, is a completely different record from Diamond Eyes. Those are the facts.

thumbs up

Sticky on the mainscreen so it can be formally told one and for all! :D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 09, 2011, 02:15 AM
personally i don't have any facts about it. i would guess it's all different stuff aside from the early beauty school, but all i have read is by deftones themselves and now a guy on the internet. when i hear it is the day i have the facts :)

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sooniletugo on Nov 09, 2011, 03:43 AM
How do we know that song similar to Beauty School is called Destiny? I just love that song though... sounds amazing. I hope we hear Eros in the near future.

Someone close to the band told me.

lol Well I'll take your word for it, i love that song. It's kind of annoying that it always gets referred to as an early Beauty School because even though there's some similarities it's got a totally different mood. Makes me feel quite sad. Would love to hear it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 09, 2011, 04:05 AM
For some reason when I listen to White Pony and then listen to the Eros clips, it almost sounds like Eros kind of picks up right where white pony leaves off in some way.....

The songs seem to have a similar vibe.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Nov 09, 2011, 02:30 PM
I still cant believe people are talking about DE being most of the Eros sessions. Go ask Shaun Lopez on facebook chat, seriously. He told me himself that Eros, was the record he preferred in comparison to DE. He also told me that nothing for Eros is on Diamond Eyes. How hard is to grasp that they just stopped with Eros, shelved it, and wrote an entirely new batch of songs with Sergio, that became Diamond Eyes. Is it really that hard to understand. And no matter how many people think so, the music in the one video that people think is Beauty School, is not Beauty School. Similar sounding, yes. Same song, no. Deftones, Sergio and Shaun Lopez have all stated as fact that Eros, is a completely different record from Diamond Eyes. Those are the facts.

haha i never ask someone official before about that. i'll ask him one day on facebook chat
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 09, 2011, 04:40 PM
I agree with Aaron (kitesvera), and I've been saying this since the release of Diamond Eyes: none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 09, 2011, 05:15 PM
none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.

probably true... but the theory is pretty awesome, it boosts up the mystic about the album. these speculations about eros is probably more interesting than the actual music on it. be thankful of this time and let the hype and the theorys flow.
and with that said, we haven't heard eros.  and lopez is one of them - he's also in their pact and a total feeder of the lie ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 09, 2011, 05:27 PM
EVRFING IZ A LIIIE
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 09, 2011, 05:32 PM
too true,penicks
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Nov 09, 2011, 06:58 PM
we haven't heard eros.

and we never will.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Nov 09, 2011, 08:11 PM
we haven't heard eros.

and we never will.

eros is a fucking myth
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Nov 09, 2011, 09:05 PM
we haven't heard eros.

and we never will.

eros is a fucking myth

There was a second shooter who assassinated Kennedy!  9/11 was an inside job!  Barak Obama is a Muslim born in Africa!  Chemtrails are real!

Umm...  Ice cream is really made from unborn fetuses?!  I dunno.. I'm out of things to say...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kitesvera on Nov 10, 2011, 08:19 PM
none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.

probably true... but the theory is pretty awesome, it boosts up the mystic about the album. these speculations about eros is probably more interesting than the actual music on it. be thankful of this time and let the hype and the theorys flow.
and with that said, we haven't heard eros.  and lopez is one of them - he's also in their pact and a total feeder of the lie ;)

trust me, I talked to shaun about this multiple times, and I dont think he would lie to me. I talked to him on FB chat and in person when i saw Far. He told me that he preferred the Eros material over DE. He said is was much heavier and more experimental than they have been in the past. I think if he tells me that he personally likes Eros more then DE i dont think he is lying. He also told me he didnt really care for DE too much. He didnt say it was bad or anything, just that he liked what he heard on Eros more. Shaun is a pretty honest dude when it comes to his opinions about something, i know this because i have been talking to the dude for years now whether on FB or in person, or through personal messages. If fact i have talked to him enough that he knows who i am and how much i support Far, Deftones and Crosses and has thanked me on multiple occasions for supporting the three for so long now. When i met him in 2009 i walked up to him after Far played and said hey shaun, how you doing dude, Im Aaron (or Kitesvera-My internet name) and he was like, oh shit whats up dude, nice to finally meet you in person!. We then had a 20 minute conversation about all sorts of stuff from Crosses, to Eros, to stories from when Deftones/Far toured europe in 97. Hes a great dude, and by far, no pun intended, one of the most down to earth musicians i have ever met. take this as you will, but i believe that what Shaun has told me is true.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 10, 2011, 08:24 PM
He said is was much heavier and more experimental than they have been in the past.

Sounds very good.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Nov 11, 2011, 02:40 AM
none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.

probably true... but the theory is pretty awesome, it boosts up the mystic about the album. these speculations about eros is probably more interesting than the actual music on it. be thankful of this time and let the hype and the theorys flow.
and with that said, we haven't heard eros.  and lopez is one of them - he's also in their pact and a total feeder of the lie ;)

trust me, I talked to shaun about this multiple times, and I dont think he would lie to me. I talked to him on FB chat and in person when i saw Far. He told me that he preferred the Eros material over DE. He said is was much heavier and more experimental than they have been in the past. I think if he tells me that he personally likes Eros more then DE i dont think he is lying. He also told me he didnt really care for DE too much. He didnt say it was bad or anything, just that he liked what he heard on Eros more. Shaun is a pretty honest dude when it comes to his opinions about something, i know this because i have been talking to the dude for years now whether on FB or in person, or through personal messages. If fact i have talked to him enough that he knows who i am and how much i support Far, Deftones and Crosses and has thanked me on multiple occasions for supporting the three for so long now. When i met him in 2009 i walked up to him after Far played and said hey shaun, how you doing dude, Im Aaron (or Kitesvera-My internet name) and he was like, oh shit whats up dude, nice to finally meet you in person!. We then had a 20 minute conversation about all sorts of stuff from Crosses, to Eros, to stories from when Deftones/Far toured europe in 97. Hes a great dude, and by far, no pun intended, one of the most down to earth musicians i have ever met. take this as you will, but i believe that what Shaun has told me is true.
Has he became annoyed with you at all asking him the same question in every way imaginable? Did he ask you "didn't u ask me this already?"
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 11, 2011, 09:01 AM

none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.

probably true... but the theory is pretty awesome, it boosts up the mystic about the album. these speculations about eros is probably more interesting than the actual music on it. be thankful of this time and let the hype and the theorys flow.
and with that said, we haven't heard eros.  and lopez is one of them - he's also in their pact and a total feeder of the lie ;)

trust me, I talked to shaun about this multiple times, and I dont think he would lie to me. I talked to him on FB chat and in person when i saw Far. He told me that he preferred the Eros material over DE. He said is was much heavier and more experimental than they have been in the past. I think if he tells me that he personally likes Eros more then DE i dont think he is lying. He also told me he didnt really care for DE too much. He didnt say it was bad or anything, just that he liked what he heard on Eros more. Shaun is a pretty honest dude when it comes to his opinions about something, i know this because i have been talking to the dude for years now whether on FB or in person, or through personal messages. If fact i have talked to him enough that he knows who i am and how much i support Far, Deftones and Crosses and has thanked me on multiple occasions for supporting the three for so long now. When i met him in 2009 i walked up to him after Far played and said hey shaun, how you doing dude, Im Aaron (or Kitesvera-My internet name) and he was like, oh shit whats up dude, nice to finally meet you in person!. We then had a 20 minute conversation about all sorts of stuff from Crosses, to Eros, to stories from when Deftones/Far toured europe in 97. Hes a great dude, and by far, no pun intended, one of the most down to earth musicians i have ever met. take this as you will, but i believe that what Shaun has told me is true.
Has he became annoyed with you at all asking him the same question in every way imaginable? Did he ask you "didn't u ask me this already?"

Haha, this is actually what has kept me from trying to ask him these questions myself.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheShade1989 on Nov 11, 2011, 10:31 AM
I dont think it makes sense to think that anything frm Eros went onto Diamond Eyes, or was reworked slightly to be put onto Diamond Eyes. People were really excited about Eros because of it being called dark, unorthodox, experimental, weird, etc. A lotta you arent huge fans of Diamond Eyes, and it's generally their more upbeat and poppy-sounding album, so that seems kinda the opposite. As for it being recorded quickly, I dont think it's far-fetched to believe that they were just working together more efficiently than they had been previously.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 11, 2011, 11:05 AM
I dont think it makes sense to think that anything frm Eros went onto Diamond Eyes, or was reworked slightly to be put onto Diamond Eyes. People were really excited about Eros because of it being called dark, unorthodox, experimental, weird, etc. A lotta you arent huge fans of Diamond Eyes, and it's generally their more upbeat and poppy-sounding album, so that seems kinda the opposite. As for it being recorded quickly, I dont think it's far-fetched to believe that they were just working together more efficiently than they had been previously.

Exactly my thoughts.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 11, 2011, 04:15 PM
I'm pretty sure Eros is a more structured, heavier and even more experimental version of SNW. Take the best they could have made of the Bob Ezrin demos, add some more heaviness and " weird " shit, and you have Eros. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to hear some more angry pissed off shit on it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 12, 2011, 04:47 AM
I'm pretty sure Eros is a more structured, heavier and even more experimental version of SNW. Take the best they could have made of the Bob Ezrin demos, add some more heaviness and " weird " shit, and you have Eros. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to hear some more angry pissed off shit on it.

What Ezrin demos could the songs we know of from Eros have possibly been extracted from? Almost non of them. I don't hear any similarity.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 12, 2011, 03:09 PM
No, I don't mean some Ezrin demos are on Eros. I mean that these demos are experimental and heavy, and that Eros songs are probably like that, even better.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 12, 2011, 05:19 PM
none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.

probably true... but the theory is pretty awesome, it boosts up the mystic about the album. these speculations about eros is probably more interesting than the actual music on it. be thankful of this time and let the hype and the theorys flow.
and with that said, we haven't heard eros.  and lopez is one of them - he's also in their pact and a total feeder of the lie ;)

trust me, I talked to shaun about this multiple times, and I dont think he would lie to me. I talked to him on FB chat and in person when i saw Far. He told me that he preferred the Eros material over DE. He said is was much heavier and more experimental than they have been in the past. I think if he tells me that he personally likes Eros more then DE i dont think he is lying. He also told me he didnt really care for DE too much. He didnt say it was bad or anything, just that he liked what he heard on Eros more. Shaun is a pretty honest dude when it comes to his opinions about something, i know this because i have been talking to the dude for years now whether on FB or in person, or through personal messages. If fact i have talked to him enough that he knows who i am and how much i support Far, Deftones and Crosses and has thanked me on multiple occasions for supporting the three for so long now. When i met him in 2009 i walked up to him after Far played and said hey shaun, how you doing dude, Im Aaron (or Kitesvera-My internet name) and he was like, oh shit whats up dude, nice to finally meet you in person!. We then had a 20 minute conversation about all sorts of stuff from Crosses, to Eros, to stories from when Deftones/Far toured europe in 97. Hes a great dude, and by far, no pun intended, one of the most down to earth musicians i have ever met. take this as you will, but i believe that what Shaun has told me is true.
Has he became annoyed with you at all asking him the same question in every way imaginable? Did he ask you "didn't u ask me this already?"

haha.. maybe kitesvera doesn't trust lopez either
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 12, 2011, 05:24 PM
I dont think it makes sense to think that anything frm Eros went onto Diamond Eyes, or was reworked slightly to be put onto Diamond Eyes. People were really excited about Eros because of it being called dark, unorthodox, experimental, weird, etc. A lotta you arent huge fans of Diamond Eyes, and it's generally their more upbeat and poppy-sounding album, so that seems kinda the opposite. As for it being recorded quickly, I dont think it's far-fetched to believe that they were just working together more efficiently than they had been previously.

yes but that's good ol' chino talking about eros. this is what he said about snw when we haven't heard it:

Deftones
Aggressive, Evil Album August 20th |

PRP reports Chino Moreno recently commented regarding the bands upcoming new album, here's what he had to say:
"It's far more aggressive than, you know, our last few records, I'd say. I think we kinda just went in this time and just started writing, and obviously, all the stuff that came out was just way aggressive. That's what kind of made it fun. It was weird being out in Malibu, which is like a sunny place, a happy place, and we just started making some straight evil music."
The group are currently set to begin recording the effort on November 01st with producer Bob Ezrin (Pink Floyd, 30 Seconds To Mars).

..and now snw apperently is their "most chilling album" according to fans. You assume that his description of eros is true.maybe it is. but maybe it isn't. maybe sergio's description about d.e sounding like eros is the true one?again, i'm not saying eros is d.e,  just saying chino's spoken word can't be trusted :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Nov 12, 2011, 08:39 PM
...which is like a sunny place, a happy place, and we just started making some straight evil music."

THIS SHOULD BE ON OCCULT THEMES THREAD  ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 12, 2011, 11:27 PM

Deftones
Aggressive, Evil Album August 20th |

PRP reports Chino Moreno recently commented regarding the bands upcoming new album, here's what he had to say:
"It's far more aggressive than, you know, our last few records, I'd say. I think we kinda just went in this time and just started writing, and obviously, all the stuff that came out was just way aggressive. That's what kind of made it fun. It was weird being out in Malibu, which is like a sunny place, a happy place, and we just started making some straight evil music."
The group are currently set to begin recording the effort on November 01st with producer Bob Ezrin (Pink Floyd, 30 Seconds To Mars).

..and now snw apperently is their "most chilling album" according to fans. You assume that his description of eros is true.maybe it is. but maybe it isn't. maybe sergio's description about d.e sounding like eros is the true one?again, i'm not saying eros is d.e,  just saying chino's spoken word can't be trusted :)

But then again, Eros didnt go through almost four years of continuous tweaking by every single member.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheShade1989 on Nov 13, 2011, 12:55 PM
I dont think it makes sense to think that anything frm Eros went onto Diamond Eyes, or was reworked slightly to be put onto Diamond Eyes. People were really excited about Eros because of it being called dark, unorthodox, experimental, weird, etc. A lotta you arent huge fans of Diamond Eyes, and it's generally their more upbeat and poppy-sounding album, so that seems kinda the opposite. As for it being recorded quickly, I dont think it's far-fetched to believe that they were just working together more efficiently than they had been previously.

yes but that's good ol' chino talking about eros. this is what he said about snw when we haven't heard it:

Deftones
Aggressive, Evil Album August 20th |

PRP reports Chino Moreno recently commented regarding the bands upcoming new album, here's what he had to say:
"It's far more aggressive than, you know, our last few records, I'd say. I think we kinda just went in this time and just started writing, and obviously, all the stuff that came out was just way aggressive. That's what kind of made it fun. It was weird being out in Malibu, which is like a sunny place, a happy place, and we just started making some straight evil music."
The group are currently set to begin recording the effort on November 01st with producer Bob Ezrin (Pink Floyd, 30 Seconds To Mars).

..and now snw apperently is their "most chilling album" according to fans. You assume that his description of eros is true.maybe it is. but maybe it isn't. maybe sergio's description about d.e sounding like eros is the true one?again, i'm not saying eros is d.e,  just saying chino's spoken word can't be trusted :)

I can see why he said that though, he's not exactly lying, it's just that not all of the songs are aggressive. None of their albums have all songs that are heavy and aggressive, or slow and soft and whatever, but I can see what he's saying about it being aggressive, so there's still a ring of truth to it. I guess it's all just speculation in the end, because all we have to go on are what other ppl have said about it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 13, 2011, 10:52 PM
yes.. ther're dynamics in their records, aggressive stuff and soft stuff.  but here he's saying that snw is more, and has more, of the aggressive stuff than the previous 4 records when he compares snw to them.and that's just not true .saturday night wrist has more of straight up evil music compared to their other records? please. "most chilling", "most team sleepish deftones record" are the words i believe people are using here about the final product. but like electron said, a lot can happen along the way, perhaps they scrapped all those songs he's talking about.but it's like always, one must try to find, think up,make up ,explanations and excuses for why their information is incorrect all the time  :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 14, 2011, 09:44 AM
yes.. ther're dynamics in their records, aggressive stuff and soft stuff.  but here he's saying that snw is more, and has more, of the aggressive stuff than the previous 4 records when he compares snw to them.and that's just not true .saturday night wrist has more of straight up evil music compared to their other records? please. "most chilling", "most team sleepish deftones record" are the words i believe people are using here about the final product. but like electron said, a lot can happen along the way, perhaps they scrapped all those songs he's talking about.but it's like always, one must try to find, think up,make up ,explanations and excuses for why their information is incorrect all the time  :)

Well if you listen to "Finger of Death" (presumably the first song written for "Saturday Night Wrist", even though it was ultimately not included), they were probably going for something similar to S/T at first, which is why Chino described it as "straight up evil", but then Bob Ezrin came along, and they made it a bit more spacy, then Chino changed it *again*. 
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 14, 2011, 12:39 PM
I meant to say too about Sergio saying that "Eros" isn't that different from "Diamond Eyes" that they all seem at this point in time to be a little oblivious or naive about the fact that this last album clearly is too far of a departure from their old styles. Sergio may just be like that too, especially since hes a new member though technically.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Nov 14, 2011, 07:38 PM
If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 15, 2011, 11:44 PM
If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.

Fuck. Yeah.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nicklav on Nov 16, 2011, 12:34 AM
Does anyone have any idea as to what Chino sings on the live version of FOD?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sooniletugo on Nov 16, 2011, 04:34 AM
Gibberish i think.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 16, 2011, 02:02 PM
If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.

THUMBS MOTHERFUCKIN UP
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Nov 16, 2011, 02:57 PM
yes.. ther're dynamics in their records, aggressive stuff and soft stuff.  but here he's saying that snw is more, and has more, of the aggressive stuff than the previous 4 records when he compares snw to them.and that's just not true .saturday night wrist has more of straight up evil music compared to their other records? please. "most chilling", "most team sleepish deftones record" are the words i believe people are using here about the final product. but like electron said, a lot can happen along the way, perhaps they scrapped all those songs he's talking about.but it's like always, one must try to find, think up,make up ,explanations and excuses for why their information is incorrect all the time  :)

Well if you listen to "Finger of Death" (presumably the first song written for "Saturday Night Wrist", even though it was ultimately not included), they were probably going for something similar to S/T at first, which is why Chino described it as "straight up evil", but then Bob Ezrin came along, and they made it a bit more spacy, then Chino changed it *again*. 

I thought Bob just rearranged some of the tracks
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 16, 2011, 07:50 PM
Well if you listen to "Finger of Death" (presumably the first song written for "Saturday Night Wrist", even though it was ultimately not included), they were probably going for something similar to S/T at first, which is why Chino described it as "straight up evil", but then Bob Ezrin came along, and they made it a bit more spacy, then Chino changed it *again*. 

yeah but he said the new material was " far more aggressive than, you know, our last few records". if he is referring to fod, i don't think it's any more aggressive than adrenaline,atf or self titled
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Nov 17, 2011, 12:54 AM
Fuck Eros..

Its 2012.
I told you that album will be released 2036 in 2008.

Now im telling you ''FUCK EROS''
Seriously, fuck it..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Nov 17, 2011, 06:27 PM
Fuck Eros..

Its 2012.
I told you that album will be released 2036 in 2008.

Now im telling you ''FUCK EROS''
Seriously, fuck it..

We're gonna keep dogging for Eros till the very end of their careers.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 17, 2011, 06:32 PM
I told you that album will be released 2036

see? apparently you believe they're gonna release eros , so why not join the discussion? and there's always the possibility of a leak. hope is the last thing to die
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Nov 17, 2011, 06:34 PM
I told you that album will be released 2036

see? apparently you believe they're gonna release eros , so why not join the discussion? and there's always the possibility of a leak. hope is the last thing to die

How did the SNW demos leak again? Someone went into the studio and burned the tracks to a cd and snuck it out right?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 18, 2011, 01:10 AM
Fuck Eros..

Its 2012.
I told you that album will be released 2036 in 2008.

Now im telling you ''FUCK EROS''
Seriously, fuck it..

SEE hes telling us to attempt to fuck a CD, it must be really good shit.....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Nov 19, 2011, 04:08 PM
hopefully you didnt think i mean ''god''
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 20, 2011, 02:32 AM
hopefully you didnt think i mean ''god''

I have no idea what this post means. You mean you hope i didnt think you thought you meant "fuck eros" as in eros the god? lolwut
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Nov 20, 2011, 12:47 PM
i mean you mean we mean
he means she means it means

come on students say it together
i mean you mean we mean
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on Nov 20, 2011, 04:18 PM
strong signature to post relation
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 20, 2011, 09:01 PM
If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy20/from_musings/204342-must_not_fap2_super.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftonez4lyfe on Nov 20, 2011, 11:45 PM
idc about eros tbh. i mean id by it if they realeased it with mony goin 2 chi (one love <3) but im not rlly intrestd othrwise. i luv daimon eyes an im glad it came out instead of eros. i mean the reason why it came out over eros aint good dont get me rong but hey. i preffer there slow or more happy stuff too there hevy n dark stuff. :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bodywars9000 on Nov 21, 2011, 03:51 AM
^ lol Nice try Stef. Give it up, you're not fooling anyone. ::)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nicklav on Nov 21, 2011, 04:13 AM
Who is that guy? His posts hurt my brain.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: heliumjames on Nov 28, 2011, 11:07 AM
eros is such an amazing album...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 28, 2011, 12:23 PM
yes it's growing on me, can't believe it did leak after all, sounds like a mix between the snw demos and diamond eyes.
very unorthodox with a lot of uccult themes. who's the girl singing on #8 ?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Nov 28, 2011, 01:12 PM
If only you guys weren't lying.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: heliumjames on Nov 28, 2011, 01:17 PM
yes it's growing on me, can't believe it did leak after all, sounds like a mix between the snw demos and diamond eyes.
very unorthodox with a lot of uccult themes. who's the girl singing on #8 ?

i totally agree man, to me its their darkest, most progressive, poppy yet incredibly mellow album yet....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 28, 2011, 01:57 PM
You're hurting my feelings.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 28, 2011, 02:58 PM
i'm starting to understand the closer of the album now and it's just just amazing. there's this repetitive riff that chino sings to for half the song, no verse or chorus it's just keeps on going. then in the middle of the song, steph begins to play the riff backwards while chino continues to sing the same melody which is the wierdest thing ever. then the last minute it gets real heavy like in royal and chino begins to sing the melody backwards too, this while he sounds like an ancient evil witch, which is strange because at the same time it sounds very spacey and futuristic, love the effects on his voice. best ending of a record i've ever heard
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Nov 28, 2011, 03:00 PM
Zzzzzzz.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 28, 2011, 04:29 PM
I can see how some would find the first part of the song boring, but it all makes sense if you listen to the whole song a couple of times. Everyone want deftones to evolve on each record, but when they do, people get all mad anyway.  They just can’t win no matter what they do
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Nov 28, 2011, 04:46 PM
I haven't heard any song because there hasn't been any leak. Please, step your trolling game up.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: 100Modem on Nov 29, 2011, 03:11 AM
I like Dark Destiny and Facundah, I think they're the best. Also Car Window reminds me a bit of BQAD and Passenger, but thats just me I guess.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 29, 2011, 12:25 PM
Facundah

obviously an early ystb version. the verse is very much like the d.e version but the chorus is way different, less poppy and a whole lot darker vibe.
i do prefer this underground version, certainly wouldn't be a single if they kept this version on d.e. frank's spooky intro is the shit.. a little like what he did in fireal i think. i also like that this version is almost 3 minutes longer
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: cEvin Key on Nov 29, 2011, 03:19 PM
Ronin Stones is such an awesome song!! The electronic kick and snare and the creepy synth fit perfectly with the chopped guitars and then the chorus kicks in and it becomes such an epic space trip!!!this blew me away!!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 29, 2011, 07:45 PM
personal favs:


Appendix XIV

Belisama/Belisma

Coatlique

3.5 to 5 million

O.N. poem

Circa 1939

Hag, witch, fury, etc.,
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 29, 2011, 08:12 PM
Now, guys. You all seem to have forgotten the original tracklist...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s_SswA0Jbw8/TH2Pt9ptPTI/AAAAAAAAAs8/IH1q-XX6xpw/s400/7c82a15d.jpg)

Tracklist:

Dallas (4'37)
XO (5'11)
Alisson (3'44)
Destiny (2'16)
Melanie (2'40)
Latex (3'57)
You ate it (4'01)
Firelegs (3'12)
Trempest (2'30)
Maya (5'36)

Download (320kbps MP3):

www.mediafire.com/?3ibw0om00jf (http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/april-fools.jpg)

Mind = blown.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Nov 30, 2011, 02:48 AM
btw, whose artwork is that on your Eros cover there?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 30, 2011, 02:49 AM
No idea. Found that on Google.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Nov 30, 2011, 07:49 AM
That artwork is actually from a person who used to post on here who made fake websites for both SNW and Eros and tried to pass them off as official. Not really that different from what's going on in this thread right now. I doubt he actually made that painting, though. He probably found it somewhere and photoshopped DeftonesEROS on top of it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on Nov 30, 2011, 10:50 AM
oh yeah i remember that. wasn't the website of eros slowly revealing piece by piece? kind of like a slider puzzle?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 30, 2011, 03:18 PM
ah, emotional scars from the past, that explains it. i really do think being silly and fooling around is way different from serious internet fraud, that's on another level. i don't think people were up all night searching for "car window"   ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Nov 30, 2011, 07:23 PM
Everything about me comes from emotional scarring of some kind.

And yeah, it was a puzzle, I believe.
Title: Eros release ?
Post by: Vesanic on Dec 14, 2011, 11:07 AM
These three French articles are all from yesterday and say pretty much the same thing. Chino said to billboard that they would return to the studio very soon and they were thinking about releasing Eros...

There's nothing on the billboard website though. Maybe there's a new article in the magazine itself ? Does anybody know ? Or maybe French people are just very badly informed.


http://hellsacemetal.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/deftones-en-studio-debut-2012/ (http://hellsacemetal.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/deftones-en-studio-debut-2012/)
http://www.w-fenec.org/infos/2011/12/13/26521.html (http://www.w-fenec.org/infos/2011/12/13/26521.html)
http://metastases.over-blog.com/article-news-2-pour-le-prix-d-un-92363351.html (http://metastases.over-blog.com/article-news-2-pour-le-prix-d-un-92363351.html)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Dec 14, 2011, 01:02 PM
Good find, V. We'll see.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Dec 14, 2011, 01:12 PM
Well, there is this article. It's from May, though.

http://www.billboard.com/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story#/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story (http://www.billboard.com/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story#/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Dec 14, 2011, 04:37 PM
I asked on that w-fenec page where they got their info, a guy replied " From the band's blog ". Maybe I'm just blind but I can't find shit.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Dec 14, 2011, 04:39 PM
Well, there is this article. It's from May, though.

http://www.billboard.com/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story#/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story (http://www.billboard.com/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story#/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story)

Indeed. When I read those French entries, I thought " Maybe they're just quoting that old ass article ". On the other hand, Chino says Eros won't be anytime soon, unlike the articles.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Dec 14, 2011, 06:38 PM
The band's blog? The official site hasn't been updated in about a week, plus no posts on FB or Twitter, so I don't know what they are talking about.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Dec 14, 2011, 08:17 PM
Exactly.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Balthazard on Dec 16, 2011, 04:58 AM
Vive la france !  lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: mothraw on Dec 16, 2011, 02:10 PM
i think this was a eros promo poster
buyed it from that motherfucker but just got a blackandwhiteshitcopy


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deftones-New-Album-Tour-Promo-Poster-Diamond-Eyes-RARE-/260730204103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb4bb2fc7#ht_1257wt_940 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deftones-New-Album-Tour-Promo-Poster-Diamond-Eyes-RARE-/260730204103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb4bb2fc7#ht_1257wt_940)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ChannelZer0 on Dec 17, 2011, 11:52 PM
Not that rare. I have like 10 left. I got them from the street team.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: mothraw on Dec 18, 2011, 12:37 PM
Not that rare. I have like 10 left. I got them from the street team.
Gimme that
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Dec 27, 2011, 04:40 AM
Im so tired of going on here everyday and hoping there's a huge thread  by Vesanic with a million posts that says "EROS FINALLY LEAKED"
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: BillyNo.9 on Dec 27, 2011, 06:08 AM
Im so tired of going on here everyday and hoping there's a huge thread  by Vesanic with a million posts that says "EROS FINALLY LEAKED"

Don't expect it to leak man. It's pretty much certain that it never will. Also don't expect the world from V, that sort of pressure ain't fair man.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Dec 27, 2011, 07:56 PM
Just do as I've done and accept it's never coming out. If it ever does come out I'm sure enough splooge will be sprayed all over the board that you'll hear of it quickly.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: vinsanity on Jan 02, 2012, 09:51 PM
interesting article

Deftones: Why Eros Should Be Released Now Instead Of Later

01/01/2012 | by Ridge Briel | in Editorials
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In November 2008, Deftones bassist Chi Cheng was traveling through Santa Clara with his sister when they suffered from a horrific accident. His sister, Mae, only suffered minor injuries. Unfortunately, Chi was ejected from the car after it rolled three times due to him not wearing a seat belt. The accident left him in coma for quite some time and he now resides in a semi-conscious state. Since then, there has been an overwhelming amount of support from people all over the world, young and old, famous and not so famous, musicians and non-musicians.

Most notable is the website http://oneloveforchi.com (http://oneloveforchi.com), which was opened about four months after the accident by Deftones fan Gina Blackmore, where people can donate towards his immense recovery fees, read any updates regarding Chi’s condition, check out some of his poetry, read stories from fans, his family and other artists about their experience with Chi and how he’s touched their lives, and buy merchandise that all goes to his fund.

In 2009, Korn bassist Fieldy organized a collab alternative metal song called “A Song For Chi” that included thirteen other big name music artists to all pitch in and was released for free or donation. It was recorded during Korn’s “Escape From the Studio Tour,” where the other individuals recorded their sections either on stage or in studios all over the world.

Dj Hefe of the nu-metal band Coma released a compilation album called From Eastern Europe With Love to help benefit Chi. In late April of that year, PETA announced that 20% of the “Happy families, not happy meals” T-shirt designed by Chi will go to the One Love For Chi Foundation. Deftones have also played numerous benefit shows as well. All of this is still not enough. Right now, he is going through a treatment program that has a 84% success rate from the International Brain Research Foundation, which anyone could imagine is very costly. Out of the donations received so far, the One Love For Chi Foundation still has $232,505 left to pay on all those bills.

Before the accident, Deftones were wrapping up the recording process for an album entitled Eros. Chino Moreno was half way done tracking his vocals over the music when the accident happened, thus resulting in the complete halt of the album. According to Chi back in 2008, he described the album as “heavy as fuck with a shitload of groove. I always say this shit, but I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty.” At a surprise show at Spaceland in 2008, they played one of the songs from this album titled “Melanie” (each song title is reportedly based on a stripper’s name).

The album is described as a very dark and experimental album (not like pretty much every Deftones album wasn’t already experimental) with lengthy spaced-out songs, psychedelic vibes, and plenty of jamming, as described by someone who listened to the album at Revolver Magazine. The song “Dallas” was specifically compared to the song “Minerva” from their self-titled album. In a 2010 interview with fill-in bassist Sergio Vega on absolutepunk.net, he described Eros as “longer and more complex than Diamond Eyes… longer and more stuff going on…”

Interestingly enough, this was also their first album with producer Terry Date since their self titled album in 2003. They did not revisit Terry for the recording of Diamond Eyes, going instead with Nick Raskulinecz, but they used the same song-writing process, albeit more uplifting songs to cope with what happened, and avoided Pro Tools. The most unorthodox album in Deftones history has reached cult status at this point, not too much unlike Guns N Roses’ Chinese Democracy album.

Now let’s talk about logistics. Releasing Eros at this point and time would be a smart decision. When the first single (“Rocket Skates”) was released from their last album Diamond Eyes for free download for 24 hours, the overwhelming amount of people who scrambled to get it crashed their servers. The single “Diamond Eyes” charted at the #14 spot on the Billboard US Rock Songs chart and charted on 2 other charts, while the entire album itself charted at #6 in the Billboard US chart, showing that people are still actively interested in Deftones.

The first single should be “Melanie,” which only a very few select people are already familiar with. According to writer Rick Florino of artistdirect.com, who attended a show on 09-19-08, he described the song “Melanie” as “It proved simultaneously rapturous and deadly. The song’s sharp riff clashed and killed, while the chorus soared. The singer lunged into the crowd, and his voice sailed across Carpenter’s tidal wave of distortion during the hook. The new cut was edgy and vibrant—like all great Deftones songs are.” It will no doubt catch on with the public and start building hype for the album.

As for the actual release of the album, one thing that should be observed here is the fact that they were able to shelve this album in the first place. Most major record labels are known to be notorious in refuting decisions like this, but because of Deftones status in the music world, they respected their decisions in shelving an almost complete album that Warner Bros. no doubt shelled out tens of thousands for, and that shows that they have creative power that can be flexed (if need be, though I doubt would ever come to that point) to release this album as a 100% benefit album that will go towards Chi’s fees, if not that then at the very least a percentage that is higher than 45%.

To build even more hype and awareness of the album, there will be tons of coverage that will reach many people and really strike nerves and bring out emotions for those who take their time into reading or watching the story. MTV, Fuse, VH1, and other music channels will no doubt air documentary and “vide-torial” programs of the story. Music magazines and websites such as Rolling Stone, Alternative Press, Revolver, and many, many more will have editorial’s and well-described press releases that will at the very least give the reader a brief, if not in-depth, view of the album and it’s importance not only to Deftones, but also to the music world as a whole, but more importantly Chi Cheng himself.

However, there should be no touring behind this album, and none of the songs should be played live at any point until Chi is able to play again. One reason this album has been held out being released is, according to a statement by frontman Chino Moreno, “we don’t want it to be attached to the tragedy of Chi.”

But no matter what the future may hold, Eros will forever be attached to this. The release of Eros should be timed in a manner that will allow Deftones to stay dormant in their writing stage for their next album that they have stated on billboard.com that they will begin writing for shortly. Again, it should be stated by the band that they will not tour or play any songs off of the album in respect for Chi.

An idea for a deluxe edition of the album (and maybe as a separate DVD release as well) is the live recordings of the 2009 benefit concerts on November 19th and 20th. This particular performance is not only significant because of the cause, but also because of the unique covers played those nights (including System Of A Down’s “Aerials,” Metallica’s “Battery,” and Sade’s “No Ordinary Love,” among others).

On top of that, in almost all songs, both covers and original Deftones songs, they were joined by a sheer number of other musicians, which include ¾’s of System Of A Down, Cypress Hill, Mike Shinoda, P.O.D., Far, Robert Trujillo, Max Cavalera, Greg Puciato, Mike Muir, and many others. This will prove to be a very desirable (and emotional) viewing experience for fans all over the world to own and enjoy over and over again.

A making of the Eros album DVD cannot be overlooked. Prior to the accident, there were a total of 5 weekly studio updates that were released by the band on a blog they made specifically for the album, but stopped after the accident. This indicates that there is more behind the scenes footage that exists. Many bands put out these behind the scenes DVD’s with their albums (for example Linkin Park and the deluxe edition of Meteora), and the real die-hard fans eat this stuff up. Because of the gravity of the story behind the album, this will appeal to people beyond just the die-hards as well. Other features such as interviews, commentary from the band, and fan made videos, pictures and letters taken from the One Love For Chi website can complete this DVD.

Overall, the sales of Eros can be described as this: People actively seek out new Deftones as it is. When you combine all of the fans both old and new, brand new fans who will be exposed to the album and the hype that will be shown by the various outlets mentioned earlier in this article, and people who were already aware of Chi Cheng’s situation, their support will be added together and will ultimately sell well. Hell, I know there will be people that will buy this solely for the fact that it’s helping someone out. I have no doubt that Eros will sell at least 80,000 copies in the first week (though I personally think it can sell 95,000), compared to Diamond Eyes selling around 60,000 copies in the first week.

If the standard edition album sells for $11.99 and it moves 60,000 copies ($719,000), and the deluxe edition sells for $19.99 and that moves 20,000 copies ($399,800), that’s $1,118,800 together. If not 100% of the profits go to the One Love fund, 40% still equals $447,520. That’s not counting single sales on outlets like iTunes or any merch (t-shirts, wristbands, etc).

http://mindequalsblown.net/2012/01/01/deftones-why-eros-should-be-released-now-instead-of-later/ (http://mindequalsblown.net/2012/01/01/deftones-why-eros-should-be-released-now-instead-of-later/)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ineedtofuckingsearch on Jan 02, 2012, 09:59 PM
that guy is a fucking genius. or he just read this thread and decided to take the ideas as his own.  ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on Jan 02, 2012, 10:04 PM
yeah, he sums it up really nicely

can't believe it's been over three years already
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Jan 02, 2012, 10:38 PM
Well put together article and a great idea but there's no way you can make 100% of profits go to chi. With any release there are expenses and to even print them would take a sizable chunk out of the profit margin. Either way I hope we see this some day but I'm still of the mindset that Eros AND the chi benefit shows will NEVER be released. I would love to be proved wrong though.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jan 04, 2012, 01:18 AM
He is stating a high percentage of profits going to Chi's fees. Unfortunately, in our capitalistic world, that will NEVER happen. Maybe a max of 15% because Warner wants to shows its sympathy for the band and CHI but knowing what kind of hype this album may built, I think the record label's pockets are definitely going to get heavy.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Jan 04, 2012, 01:32 AM
I'm pretty sure Diamond Eyes (either that or that covers record) was the last album of their contract with WB.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Jan 04, 2012, 07:36 AM
I'm pretty sure Diamond Eyes (either that or that covers record) was the last album of their contract with WB.

They'll still release under WB until they stop making albums. Or else they'll probably never sell albums.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on Jan 04, 2012, 09:05 AM
I'm pretty sure Diamond Eyes (either that or that covers record) was the last album of their contract with WB.

They'll still release under WB until they stop making albums. Or else they'll probably never sell albums.

Billboard, 2010

6. HAS THE BAND CONSIDERED RELEASING FUTURE ALBUMS WITHOUT A LABEL?

Obviously, that would be something great for us -- for a lot of different reasons. But at this time we're still under contract. We don't make records too often. So it's going to take us a long time to fulfill our contract with them over the last 15 years or whatever since we started putting out records. We still have a couple more records to go that are due. When that's up, obviously we'd love to have more control over our releases.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/04/24/music-us-deftones-idUKTRE63N19H20100424 (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/04/24/music-us-deftones-idUKTRE63N19H20100424)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Jan 04, 2012, 11:20 AM
I'm pretty sure Diamond Eyes (either that or that covers record) was the last album of their contract with WB.

They'll still release under WB until they stop making albums. Or else they'll probably never sell albums.

Billboard, 2010

6. HAS THE BAND CONSIDERED RELEASING FUTURE ALBUMS WITHOUT A LABEL?

Obviously, that would be something great for us -- for a lot of different reasons. But at this time we're still under contract. We don't make records too often. So it's going to take us a long time to fulfill our contract with them over the last 15 years or whatever since we started putting out records. We still have a couple more records to go that are due. When that's up, obviously we'd love to have more control over our releases.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/04/24/music-us-deftones-idUKTRE63N19H20100424 (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/04/24/music-us-deftones-idUKTRE63N19H20100424)

I can't see it happening. They'd lose money that way.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rumors on Jan 04, 2012, 05:20 PM
interesting article

Deftones: Why Eros Should Be Released Now Instead Of Later

01/01/2012 | by Ridge Briel | in Editorials
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In November 2008, Deftones bassist Chi Cheng was traveling through Santa Clara with his sister when they suffered from a horrific accident. His sister, Mae, only suffered minor injuries. Unfortunately, Chi was ejected from the car after it rolled three times due to him not wearing a seat belt. The accident left him in coma for quite some time and he now resides in a semi-conscious state. Since then, there has been an overwhelming amount of support from people all over the world, young and old, famous and not so famous, musicians and non-musicians.

Most notable is the website http://oneloveforchi.com (http://oneloveforchi.com), which was opened about four months after the accident by Deftones fan Gina Blackmore, where people can donate towards his immense recovery fees, read any updates regarding Chi’s condition, check out some of his poetry, read stories from fans, his family and other artists about their experience with Chi and how he’s touched their lives, and buy merchandise that all goes to his fund.

In 2009, Korn bassist Fieldy organized a collab alternative metal song called “A Song For Chi” that included thirteen other big name music artists to all pitch in and was released for free or donation. It was recorded during Korn’s “Escape From the Studio Tour,” where the other individuals recorded their sections either on stage or in studios all over the world.

Dj Hefe of the nu-metal band Coma released a compilation album called From Eastern Europe With Love to help benefit Chi. In late April of that year, PETA announced that 20% of the “Happy families, not happy meals” T-shirt designed by Chi will go to the One Love For Chi Foundation. Deftones have also played numerous benefit shows as well. All of this is still not enough. Right now, he is going through a treatment program that has a 84% success rate from the International Brain Research Foundation, which anyone could imagine is very costly. Out of the donations received so far, the One Love For Chi Foundation still has $232,505 left to pay on all those bills.

Before the accident, Deftones were wrapping up the recording process for an album entitled Eros. Chino Moreno was half way done tracking his vocals over the music when the accident happened, thus resulting in the complete halt of the album. According to Chi back in 2008, he described the album as “heavy as fuck with a shitload of groove. I always say this shit, but I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty.” At a surprise show at Spaceland in 2008, they played one of the songs from this album titled “Melanie” (each song title is reportedly based on a stripper’s name).

The album is described as a very dark and experimental album (not like pretty much every Deftones album wasn’t already experimental) with lengthy spaced-out songs, psychedelic vibes, and plenty of jamming, as described by someone who listened to the album at Revolver Magazine. The song “Dallas” was specifically compared to the song “Minerva” from their self-titled album. In a 2010 interview with fill-in bassist Sergio Vega on absolutepunk.net, he described Eros as “longer and more complex than Diamond Eyes… longer and more stuff going on…”

Interestingly enough, this was also their first album with producer Terry Date since their self titled album in 2003. They did not revisit Terry for the recording of Diamond Eyes, going instead with Nick Raskulinecz, but they used the same song-writing process, albeit more uplifting songs to cope with what happened, and avoided Pro Tools. The most unorthodox album in Deftones history has reached cult status at this point, not too much unlike Guns N Roses’ Chinese Democracy album.

Now let’s talk about logistics. Releasing Eros at this point and time would be a smart decision. When the first single (“Rocket Skates”) was released from their last album Diamond Eyes for free download for 24 hours, the overwhelming amount of people who scrambled to get it crashed their servers. The single “Diamond Eyes” charted at the #14 spot on the Billboard US Rock Songs chart and charted on 2 other charts, while the entire album itself charted at #6 in the Billboard US chart, showing that people are still actively interested in Deftones.

The first single should be “Melanie,” which only a very few select people are already familiar with. According to writer Rick Florino of artistdirect.com, who attended a show on 09-19-08, he described the song “Melanie” as “It proved simultaneously rapturous and deadly. The song’s sharp riff clashed and killed, while the chorus soared. The singer lunged into the crowd, and his voice sailed across Carpenter’s tidal wave of distortion during the hook. The new cut was edgy and vibrant—like all great Deftones songs are.” It will no doubt catch on with the public and start building hype for the album.

As for the actual release of the album, one thing that should be observed here is the fact that they were able to shelve this album in the first place. Most major record labels are known to be notorious in refuting decisions like this, but because of Deftones status in the music world, they respected their decisions in shelving an almost complete album that Warner Bros. no doubt shelled out tens of thousands for, and that shows that they have creative power that can be flexed (if need be, though I doubt would ever come to that point) to release this album as a 100% benefit album that will go towards Chi’s fees, if not that then at the very least a percentage that is higher than 45%.

To build even more hype and awareness of the album, there will be tons of coverage that will reach many people and really strike nerves and bring out emotions for those who take their time into reading or watching the story. MTV, Fuse, VH1, and other music channels will no doubt air documentary and “vide-torial” programs of the story. Music magazines and websites such as Rolling Stone, Alternative Press, Revolver, and many, many more will have editorial’s and well-described press releases that will at the very least give the reader a brief, if not in-depth, view of the album and it’s importance not only to Deftones, but also to the music world as a whole, but more importantly Chi Cheng himself.

However, there should be no touring behind this album, and none of the songs should be played live at any point until Chi is able to play again. One reason this album has been held out being released is, according to a statement by frontman Chino Moreno, “we don’t want it to be attached to the tragedy of Chi.”

But no matter what the future may hold, Eros will forever be attached to this. The release of Eros should be timed in a manner that will allow Deftones to stay dormant in their writing stage for their next album that they have stated on billboard.com that they will begin writing for shortly. Again, it should be stated by the band that they will not tour or play any songs off of the album in respect for Chi.

An idea for a deluxe edition of the album (and maybe as a separate DVD release as well) is the live recordings of the 2009 benefit concerts on November 19th and 20th. This particular performance is not only significant because of the cause, but also because of the unique covers played those nights (including System Of A Down’s “Aerials,” Metallica’s “Battery,” and Sade’s “No Ordinary Love,” among others).

On top of that, in almost all songs, both covers and original Deftones songs, they were joined by a sheer number of other musicians, which include ¾’s of System Of A Down, Cypress Hill, Mike Shinoda, P.O.D., Far, Robert Trujillo, Max Cavalera, Greg Puciato, Mike Muir, and many others. This will prove to be a very desirable (and emotional) viewing experience for fans all over the world to own and enjoy over and over again.

A making of the Eros album DVD cannot be overlooked. Prior to the accident, there were a total of 5 weekly studio updates that were released by the band on a blog they made specifically for the album, but stopped after the accident. This indicates that there is more behind the scenes footage that exists. Many bands put out these behind the scenes DVD’s with their albums (for example Linkin Park and the deluxe edition of Meteora), and the real die-hard fans eat this stuff up. Because of the gravity of the story behind the album, this will appeal to people beyond just the die-hards as well. Other features such as interviews, commentary from the band, and fan made videos, pictures and letters taken from the One Love For Chi website can complete this DVD.

Overall, the sales of Eros can be described as this: People actively seek out new Deftones as it is. When you combine all of the fans both old and new, brand new fans who will be exposed to the album and the hype that will be shown by the various outlets mentioned earlier in this article, and people who were already aware of Chi Cheng’s situation, their support will be added together and will ultimately sell well. Hell, I know there will be people that will buy this solely for the fact that it’s helping someone out. I have no doubt that Eros will sell at least 80,000 copies in the first week (though I personally think it can sell 95,000), compared to Diamond Eyes selling around 60,000 copies in the first week.

If the standard edition album sells for $11.99 and it moves 60,000 copies ($719,000), and the deluxe edition sells for $19.99 and that moves 20,000 copies ($399,800), that’s $1,118,800 together. If not 100% of the profits go to the One Love fund, 40% still equals $447,520. That’s not counting single sales on outlets like iTunes or any merch (t-shirts, wristbands, etc).

http://mindequalsblown.net/2012/01/01/deftones-why-eros-should-be-released-now-instead-of-later/ (http://mindequalsblown.net/2012/01/01/deftones-why-eros-should-be-released-now-instead-of-later/)

This article is highly uninformed.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jan 04, 2012, 05:36 PM
Enlighten us then, please.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Jan 05, 2012, 01:40 PM
whoaa rumors!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Jan 10, 2012, 02:32 AM
Eros better live up to the hype its causing.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Jan 10, 2012, 08:44 PM
I can't see it happening. They'd lose money that way.

How in the hell would they lose money getting 100% of the profits from the album? =/
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jan 11, 2012, 11:25 AM
Rumors is Abe.

I lost my hype on Eros btw.
I hate waiting.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 12, 2012, 05:41 PM
This article is highly uninformed.

This article is highly informed until proven otherwise
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Jan 12, 2012, 09:42 PM
This article is highly uninformed.

This article is highly informed until proven otherwise

Lol. You're gonna argue with someone in the know lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on Jan 12, 2012, 10:06 PM
This article is highly uninformed.

This article is highly informed until proven otherwise

Lol. You're gonna argue with someone in the know lol

you gotta admit that only saying "LOL DIS IS BULSHTI GUIZE" is kind of iffy, i'd like to know why this is highly uninformed

but i get it, rumors has to maintain his super mystery internet persona
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ineedtofuckingsearch on Jan 12, 2012, 10:10 PM
damn, rumors is one helluva tease. i'd like to know why that article is so damn uninformed too.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defburn on Jan 13, 2012, 10:02 AM
WHO'S that girl ?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jan 13, 2012, 05:10 PM
WHO'S that girl ?

La-la-lalalala-la-la-lalala
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ineedtofuckingsearch on Jan 13, 2012, 05:14 PM
WHO'S that girl ?

girl in my avatar is gogo blackwater. girl in my sig is vivid vivka. :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defburn on Jan 13, 2012, 09:28 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Shadow46/2 on Jan 14, 2012, 08:31 AM
fap fap fap
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jan 15, 2012, 03:18 PM
you gotta admit that only saying "LOL DIS IS BULSHTI GUIZE" is kind of iffy, i'd like to know why this is highly uninformed
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Robotsatemygrandma on Jan 18, 2012, 04:46 AM
Maybe Vesanic or some of the other guys can chime in here.

How complete is Eros? I've heard accounts it's basically all recorded and just needs to be mixed and mastered. However my understanding is it's not even complete and things (may it be vocals, additional recording) need to be done to properly finish the "album", before mixing and mastering is even considered. Ironically enough... I don't think I've read nor heard an interview conducted with Stef about the fate of Eros. I know Abe, Chino and Frank have commented on the matter. I think the big guy holds the answers.

But with them playing Melanie live, when they did, and in interviews saying "it's shelved and one day..." maybe hints towards a more completed project.

On a side thought: maybe they don't want to release it because there are a striking amount of elements (as proved by Beauty School and the Eros Vlogs) that made it to Diamond Eyes, so it might appear as an album in two different takes? As a musician, I think this is plausible, because I (and many others) have encountered the situation where songs sound similar or contain riffs/phrases that are in fact the same. I'm actually dealing with this situation on 2 songs I just recorded.

But I know Chino recently stated that they didn't want Eros to be attributed to Chi's tragedy. But either way you spin it, it will because I'm afraid it may be his last performance. I really hope I'm wrong and Chi can make a full recovery to the point, it feels as though nothing happened, although realisticall from my research, it's likely to not happen.

Ok I'm done being an investigative journalist.  ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Jan 18, 2012, 05:23 AM
music was done, vocals were about half way done i think.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jan 18, 2012, 10:16 AM
music was done, vocals were about half way done i think.

Yup, that's the official version. The music is ready and has to be mixed (I think), and there's half of the vocals.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Robotsatemygrandma on Jan 18, 2012, 10:29 AM
Awesome thanks guys!

Anyone gather it maybe a mixture between Self Titled and Diamond Eyes? My gut feeling says so, but honestly I'm hoping it's something that blows everything else out of the water.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jan 18, 2012, 11:09 AM
WHO'S that girl ?

girl in my avatar is gogo blackwater. girl in my sig is vivid vivka. :)

she s not a pornstar,right?
(i hope she is)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Jan 21, 2012, 10:57 AM
Awesome thanks guys!

Anyone gather it maybe a mixture between Self Titled and Diamond Eyes? My gut feeling says so, but honestly I'm hoping it's something that blows everything else out of the water.

Thats kind of what I gathered as well.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ineedtofuckingsearch on Jan 22, 2012, 07:29 PM
WHO'S that girl ?

girl in my avatar is gogo blackwater. girl in my sig is vivid vivka. :)

she s not a pornstar,right?
(i hope she is)

nah man, she's not in any films that i know of. but she does a lot of nude modeling. she's on suicidegirls, zivity and a few other sites. she has a lot of her stuff on deviantart, too (http://pinkeye.deviantart.com/ (http://pinkeye.deviantart.com/)). ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Feb 03, 2012, 02:46 AM
nah man, she's not in any films that i know of...

Then she's useless to me.. =/
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Feb 03, 2012, 01:33 PM
nah man, she's not in any films that i know of...

Then she's useless to me.. =/

lool
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Feb 06, 2012, 11:50 PM
She made me search, that's for sure. Nice girl ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Black Horse on Feb 12, 2012, 01:34 AM
I heard someone on the web saying that eros leaked, and that this is the tracklist, i don't know if it's legit:

1.Dallas 2.Uni-King 3.Trempest 4.Capital Punishment 5. 01011101 6.Melanie 7.Deus Ex 8.The Voiceless 9.Destiny 10.Gemini 11.Skeletal Remains
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Feb 12, 2012, 01:53 AM
Source?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Feb 12, 2012, 01:56 AM
LOL












































Ok, I googled it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Feb 12, 2012, 02:02 AM
?

Anyway, that tracklisting seems phony to me.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Feb 12, 2012, 09:49 AM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on Feb 12, 2012, 01:51 PM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??


http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16968.0.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16968.0.html)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Feb 12, 2012, 07:30 PM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??


http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16968.0.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16968.0.html)

whoa im 2 years behind..
thanks for the correction!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Feb 13, 2012, 12:40 AM
If that is from Eros, I wouldn't mind, it actually sounds kinda sick, and the production of the drums sound like Abe's, and the vocals are kind of similar to Chino's high note, even the guitars dont sound that different from Stephens, I noticed that when I listened to the sample then went straight into "Damone", I automatically noticed the similarity, even the effects sound a little like the ones Frank uses on Diamond Eyes.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Feb 13, 2012, 04:00 AM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??

no way to tell
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Feb 13, 2012, 05:41 AM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??

no way to tell
Except.. it's not hard to tell at all...

That sucks.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Feb 13, 2012, 10:26 PM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??

no way to tell
Except.. it's not hard to tell at all...

That sucks.

The only thing that really sucks about it is that little low guitar sound in the background which gives it a bit of an almost country influence, which doesn't sound Deftones at all and is just stupid anyways, but minus that, I think its possible.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: There Will Be Blood on Feb 13, 2012, 11:51 PM
That song came from a CD someone found in a club a few years back.... If I remember correctly someone wrote Deftones on the CD in marker and it had like 5 tracks on it. So when someone on this forum found it he thought it was EROS but when he uploaded the other songs It was not at all Deftones. Maybe Vesanic can back me on this....?

Update: Penicks Posted the link to that thread I was talking about a few post up !
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Feb 14, 2012, 12:36 PM
If I'm correct, he posted a second track and indeed, it didn't sound like Deftones at all. However, I must admit the first one sounds incredibly like them, music AND production wise.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kitesvera on Feb 14, 2012, 10:22 PM
Well Here is my 2 cents. First, a little about me, so you know where i am coming from. Deftones have been my fav band since i was 12 years old. I am now 26. I have heard everything they have done, with the exception of Eros and maybe one or 2 lost b sides. Vesanic will verify for you, if need be that i know my shit. I believe that this is deftones, here is why. The drums are definitely Abe Cunningham, the sound, the rhythm everything about it screams Abe. The synth sounds like Franks to me. Guitars sounds more like Chinos style of playing then Stefs but it could be him playing. The vocal part could also definitely be Chino. Now i dont think this is from Eros, however it could be. Chino claimed that Stef was the only person playing guitar on Eros, but in the studio videos Chino himself can be seen in the videos playing guitar so i dont know why he said only stef was playing guitar. So with that in mind it could be from the Eros sessions. You can also take in to account this information which was given to me by Mr. Shaun Lopez of Far/ Crosses: He told me that the album was very trippy and ambient and reminiscent of Pink Floyd, but also it was by far the heaviest material that they had written. He told me that he preferred what he heard on Eros over what came out to be Diamond Eyes.  So there you go, take is as you will, this is just my opinion of what i heard in the clip
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Millennia on Feb 14, 2012, 10:47 PM
sounds amazing whoever it is
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Feb 15, 2012, 02:25 AM
Well Here is my 2 cents. First, a little about me, so you know where i am coming from. Deftones have been my fav band since i was 12 years old. I am now 26. I have heard everything they have done, with the exception of Eros and maybe one or 2 lost b sides. Vesanic will verify for you, if need be that i know my shit. I believe that this is deftones, here is why. The drums are definitely Abe Cunningham, the sound, the rhythm everything about it screams Abe. The synth sounds like Franks to me. Guitars sounds more like Chinos style of playing then Stefs but it could be him playing. The vocal part could also definitely be Chino. Now i dont think this is from Eros, however it could be. Chino claimed that Stef was the only person playing guitar on Eros, but in the studio videos Chino himself can be seen in the videos playing guitar so i dont know why he said only stef was playing guitar. So with that in mind it could be from the Eros sessions. You can also take in to account this information which was given to me by Mr. Shaun Lopez of Far/ Crosses: He told me that the album was very trippy and ambient and reminiscent of Pink Floyd, but also it was by far the heaviest material that they had written. He told me that he preferred what he heard on Eros over what came out to be Diamond Eyes.  So there you go, take is as you will, this is just my opinion of what i heard in the clip


Yes, yes and yes. Just one thing though, Chino was playing bass in the Eros videos, if I'm correct.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Feb 15, 2012, 03:30 PM
I noticed that in this video....

Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyH1v7RF5H4#)

....In the background you can hear some heavily distorted guitar, with no drums or bass it seems.

At first I thought maybe they were just listening to the radio or a CD or whatever while playing cards, but I think its kind of interesting how you hear no drums, and Abe is sitting right there, then at the end of the video, randomly says "Thats a song... lets check it" and leaves, almost as if hes realizing its his time to rehearse some drum parts for the song. As for who's playing the guitar (since Steph's sitting right there), its clearly Chino, going it alone in the studio.

Sounds pretty sick....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Feb 15, 2012, 03:35 PM
That song came from a CD someone found in a club a few years back.... If I remember correctly someone wrote Deftones on the CD in marker and it had like 5 tracks on it. So when someone on this forum found it he thought it was EROS but when he uploaded the other songs It was not at all Deftones. Maybe Vesanic can back me on this....?

Update: Penicks Posted the link to that thread I was talking about a few post up !

So where can we find the rest of the tracks? I wanna listen to them
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Feb 15, 2012, 03:48 PM
I think its kinda interesting how in this video Chino kinda fucks up his words a few times when trying to describe the time period between Eros and Diamond Eyes.

Deftones Interview '09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTcw_nWmSs4#ws)

"We recorded another version of the record-or uh...not a version of the record....another record which was titled Eros..."

"We stepped away from the studio for a little while, before finishing it, and when we decided to continue on, when Sergio came in, we started writing more songs."
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Feb 15, 2012, 08:01 PM
yes, interesting. I piss myself laughing at Abe every time i've seen this interview! ;D He's like ::) shut the fuck up Chino.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kitesvera on Feb 15, 2012, 10:25 PM


Yes, yes and yes. Just one thing though, Chino was playing bass in the Eros videos, if I'm correct.
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At the begining of that video thats is posted above hes playing one of stefs ESP guitars, not a bass. Dont know about the other videos cuz i havent seen them in so long...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: heartache666 on Feb 15, 2012, 11:16 PM


....In the background you can hear some heavily distorted guitar, with no drums or bass it seems.

At first I thought maybe they were just listening to the radio or a CD or whatever while playing cards, but I think its kind of interesting how you hear no drums, and Abe is sitting right there, then at the end of the video, randomly says "Thats a song... lets check it" and leaves, almost as if hes realizing its his time to rehearse some drum parts for the song. As for who's playing the guitar (since Steph's sitting right there), its clearly Chino, going it alone in the studio.

Sounds pretty sick....


Abe actually says "there's a song" he's referencing "the gambler" by  kenny rogers to go along with what Steph is talking about.

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Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Feb 15, 2012, 11:46 PM
At the begining of that video thats is posted above hes playing one of stefs ESP guitars, not a bass. Dont know about the other videos cuz i havent seen them in so long...

It's way too blurry to be sure but it really looks like a bass to me. And I think the fact he was playing a bass had been discussed back when these videos appeared. I could be wrong, of course.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: tarkil on Feb 16, 2012, 04:06 PM
I must say the drums sound just like Abe yes...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Feb 16, 2012, 07:05 PM
I must say the drums sound just like Abe yes...

this +1
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Feb 17, 2012, 03:16 PM
I must say the drums sound just like Abe yes...

this +1

The drums do sound like abe but the guitar and bass is something deftones have NEVER done. Again, they always recreate some unique sounds on each record so who knows...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Feb 17, 2012, 06:52 PM
I must say the drums sound just like Abe yes...

this +1

The drums do sound like abe but the guitar and bass is something deftones have NEVER done. Again, they always recreate some unique sounds on each record so who knows...


i think the guitar is quite like Feiticera, which is, the one and only, Stephen Carpenter.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: hole-in-the-earth on Feb 21, 2012, 11:01 PM
I read this article , pretty recent, that says they should release Eros, or at least a song or two, to help pay off Chi's medical expenses. I mean, think about that, they're already working on a new album so when that comes out, the other members won't have to worry about money or anything. So all of those proceeds will go to Chi's medical bills, which we all know his family is struggling to pay. It probably won't pay ALL of the money off, but it will sure as hell help them a lot. After hearing that view, I'm actually surprised Deftones HAVEN'T done that.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Feb 22, 2012, 12:00 AM
I read this article , pretty recent, that says they should release Eros, or at least a song or two, to help pay off Chi's medical expenses. I mean, think about that, they're already working on a new album so when that comes out, the other members won't have to worry about money or anything. So all of those proceeds will go to Chi's medical bills, which we all know his family is struggling to pay. It probably won't pay ALL of the money off, but it will sure as hell help them a lot. After hearing that view, I'm actually surprised Deftones HAVEN'T done that.

It's not their decision.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: hole-in-the-earth on Feb 22, 2012, 12:10 AM
Yeah, I suppose your right, there's also personal matters involved too... And the fact that they would want Chi to finish the work he started at his own pace. Makes sense either way, I guess.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Feb 22, 2012, 12:13 AM
I read this article , pretty recent, that says they should release Eros, or at least a song or two, to help pay off Chi's medical expenses. I mean, think about that, they're already working on a new album so when that comes out, the other members won't have to worry about money or anything. So all of those proceeds will go to Chi's medical bills, which we all know his family is struggling to pay. It probably won't pay ALL of the money off, but it will sure as hell help them a lot. After hearing that view, I'm actually surprised Deftones HAVEN'T done that.

It's not their decision.

The Record Label owns the rights to Eros and let's face it, despite them knowing what CHI's situation is, not a single dime will go his way.

This whole Eros situation has got me thinking. Diamond eyes did extremely well for the Label and the band and their next album, hoping its amazin and hard hitting as diamond eyes will setup a very revenue rewarding marketing campaign for Eros. For example, they can say it is the long-awaited delayed album of deftones which people will flock to buy.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: hole-in-the-earth on Feb 22, 2012, 12:26 AM
Yeah! There's an idea... Record companies suck so much... But what are you gonna do, I guess, right? Maybe Deftones should go independent?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Feb 22, 2012, 08:29 AM
I read this article , pretty recent, that says they should release Eros, or at least a song or two, to help pay off Chi's medical expenses. I mean, think about that, they're already working on a new album so when that comes out, the other members won't have to worry about money or anything. So all of those proceeds will go to Chi's medical bills, which we all know his family is struggling to pay. It probably won't pay ALL of the money off, but it will sure as hell help them a lot. After hearing that view, I'm actually surprised Deftones HAVEN'T done that.

Wait.... so they've openly stated their thinking about releasing Eros (or a song or two as you said) for Chi?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: skinnypuppy on Feb 22, 2012, 09:54 PM
Yea, and Entertain Me has a release date.


#LOL
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: hole-in-the-earth on Feb 22, 2012, 10:08 PM
Noooothey haven't said that. I was referring to an earlier post.. But they have said they want to release it at some point, preferable when Chi's wakes up and is ready to play again.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Feb 22, 2012, 10:52 PM
Noooothey haven't said that. I was referring to an earlier post.. But they have said they want to release it at some point, preferable when Chi's wakes up and is ready to play again.

Yes this is completely true.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoolsys07 on Feb 23, 2012, 05:57 AM
Regarding that snippet that sounds like something off of Eros... it's not. Nor is it Deftones. C'mon now, guys...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Visitant on Feb 23, 2012, 06:01 AM
Regarding that snippet that sounds like something off of Eros... it's not. Nor is it Deftones. C'mon now, guys...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Feb 23, 2012, 06:34 AM
Regarding that snippet that sounds like something off of Eros... it's not. Nor is it Deftones. C'mon now, guys...

doesn't even sound like them.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Feb 23, 2012, 08:01 AM
Regarding that snippet that sounds like something off of Eros... it's not. Nor is it Deftones. C'mon now, guys...

doesn't even sound like them.

But then again, if you heard a snippet of "Xerces" or "Lucky You" when Adrenaline was out, you wouldn't think it was Deftones either. This is just how Deftones are, constantly evolving their already unique sound, which is in my opinion, one of the biggest reasons its entirely possible this could have been produced by them.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Feb 23, 2012, 08:03 AM
Noooothey haven't said that. I was referring to an earlier post.. But they have said they want to release it at some point, preferable when Chi's wakes up and is ready to play again.

Oh I know which post you're talking about, but I got excited and wanted to think you meant it was confirmed....  :'(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoolsys07 on Feb 24, 2012, 12:00 AM
Regarding that snippet that sounds like something off of Eros... it's not. Nor is it Deftones. C'mon now, guys...

doesn't even sound like them.

But then again, if you heard a snippet of "Xerces" or "Lucky You" when Adrenaline was out, you wouldn't think it was Deftones either. This is just how Deftones are, constantly evolving their already unique sound, which is in my opinion, one of the biggest reasons its entirely possible this could have been produced by them.

It sounds more like God is an Astronaut to me, that clip. But the production isn't anywhere near Deftones quality, even for a demo. Listen to that guitar, that is not Stef's rig at all. Sounds amateur. Remember I even posted some of my clips a couple years back saying it was Deftones and everyone bought it until I said it was actually me.

Edit: and now that thread was removed and I had a hard drive crash and I totally don't remember how my songs went hahaha. So that's my fault I guess hahaha.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Feb 29, 2012, 09:42 PM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)

found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Feb 29, 2012, 09:49 PM
That sounds nothing like Deftones to me. Certainly not Abe.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Feb 29, 2012, 11:17 PM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)

found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.

That sounds NOTHING like deftones.

Abe would NEVER play double kick like that. They would never produce guitar sounds that shitty.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Feb 29, 2012, 11:42 PM
It COULD be Deftones, but it's not them. Whoever that is, I need to find out, I think it's pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: wheresmysnare on Mar 01, 2012, 12:19 AM
if you were going to leak eros, why on earth would you leak such minor clips that prove nothing. it is total bs and in my opinion neither of the clips have anything to do with deftones or eros, just some bored individual releasing clips from their garage band and calling them deftones.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Mar 01, 2012, 11:27 AM
 ;Dyep BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Mar 01, 2012, 04:23 PM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)

found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.

ITs not deftones. fo sho
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on Mar 01, 2012, 07:54 PM
It COULD be Deftones, but it's not them. Whoever that is, I need to find out, I think it's pretty cool.

yeah, i like the mood
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Mar 02, 2012, 09:51 AM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)

found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.

The effects sound like the ones at the beginning of "Lovers", the drums actually kinda sound like Abe's production, but the style of it is different than his usual, but then again Eros was supposed to have pretty crazy drums, right? I think its possible, but idk. Its hard to tell, but I really actually like it. I hope its Deftones. 
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Mar 02, 2012, 11:08 AM
I'm pretty sure it's not. Even tried to place it with the stuff we heard them playing during the Eros sessions, doesn't fit. That other piece of music posted a week or two ago that most doubted sounded more like them than this. And personally, I hope it isn't Deftones. If u like it, then good because it is a whole new band for u to explore. ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Mar 02, 2012, 11:11 AM
it's the same effect frank uses in rats, in the opening riff and in the"i won't say nothing, not a fucking thing" - part. you can also hear it in the everything is fine part.  other than that effect, it doesn't sound like deftones i think
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Mar 02, 2012, 11:30 AM
I'm pretty sure it's not. Even tried to place it with the stuff we heard them playing during the Eros sessions, doesn't fit. That other piece of music posted a week or two ago that most doubted sounded more like them than this. And personally, I hope it isn't Deftones. If u like it, then good because it is a whole new band for u to explore. ;)

I placed it with the other Eros stuff myself, I think it fits pretty good.

it's the same effect frank uses in rats, in the opening riff and in the"i won't say nothing, not a fucking thing" - part. you can also hear it in the everything is fine part.  other than that effect, it doesn't sound like deftones i think

Didn't even think of that song, but yeah it does sound like that effect a bit. 
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Mar 02, 2012, 11:35 AM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)

found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.

That sounds NOTHING like deftones.

Abe would NEVER play double kick like that. They would never produce guitar sounds that shitty.

Abe played a double kick in "When Girls Telephone Boys" if im not mistaken, and also I think the guitar indeed does sound like it could be within the range of Stephen, maybe a little fuzzier than usual, but even so, the riff sounds like something he would write. Maybe its not even from Eros. Maybe if it is Deftones at all, its a b-side/demo/rehearsal, from a past era. 
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: hole-in-the-earth on Mar 02, 2012, 06:13 PM
That sounds wayyy to different, for me at least, to be Deftones. The drumming doesn't sound at all like Abe, and the guitar playing doesn't sound like Stephen. But the effect kinda sound like Frank. Like the title said, Who Knows?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Mar 03, 2012, 09:28 AM
.....just release the fucking thing already
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Mar 03, 2012, 06:50 PM
.....just release the fucking thing already
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Mar 16, 2012, 08:25 AM
Any news?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Mar 16, 2012, 08:29 AM
This is kind of a stupid thing to mention, but I think since every album seems to have a *color* which has emphasis in the vinyls, Im gonna go out on a limb and say an Eros vinyl would have been purple? It seems like some of the promotional stuff around that era was purple.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteen on Mar 16, 2012, 07:58 PM
If that was Deftones, I'd have been happy with that direction.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Robotsatemygrandma on Mar 20, 2012, 11:34 AM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)

found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.

Take away the double kick pattern in the beginning and it does have an air about it that resembles something the Sacto boys would do.

Damn my mind goes wild and geeks out wondering what Eros sounds like. Be funny if they went all cryptic and released it the day the world is supposed to end. Wasn't there a lot of discussion about the Deftones and Occult themes going on awhile ago?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Mar 21, 2012, 08:27 AM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)

found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.

Take away the double kick pattern in the beginning and it does have an air about it that resembles something the Sacto boys would do.

Damn my mind goes wild and geeks out wondering what Eros sounds like. Be funny if they went all cryptic and released it the day the world is supposed to end. Wasn't there a lot of discussion about the Deftones and Occult themes going on awhile ago?
Obviously (hopefully, anyways) they are not Nostradamus just musicians. LOLZ  The occult thing ends at image and influence. Cmon now
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Robotsatemygrandma on Mar 21, 2012, 11:58 PM



deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)

found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.

Take away the double kick pattern in the beginning and it does have an air about it that resembles something the Sacto boys would do.

Damn my mind goes wild and geeks out wondering what Eros sounds like. Be funny if they went all cryptic and released it the day the world is supposed to end. Wasn't there a lot of discussion about the Deftones and Occult themes going on awhile ago?
Obviously (hopefully, anyways) they are not Nostradamus just musicians. LOLZ  The occult thing ends at image and influence. Cmon now

With Glassjaw going all "we gonna release this shit on (insert specifically calculated date &/or repetitive number 1/1/11 for example)" I was maybe wondering if the Tones were thinking of doing something similar. But I think the only similarity between the two (other then being bad ass) is use of obscure images.

Random thought anyways.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Mar 27, 2012, 06:47 PM
i made a Deftones - Eros cover in 2008.
Just for trolling

I wrote ''In stores at March 2032''

Now God trolls me, i guess


EDIT: I fuckin found it, lol
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3066/deftoneseros2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 06, 2012, 06:30 AM
 ;)Sorry, this thread was getting dry. And I will get a hard on at 500 posts, I will finally be halfway out of the peasant status!  ;D jk April fools 4 days after!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Apr 07, 2012, 05:04 PM
What was supposed to be the cover of Eros? Abe mentioned all the packaging art was finished or about to be finished I think, I'm curious to see the cover..... Was it a picture of something? Or was it just drawn, etc.? 
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Apr 08, 2012, 12:13 AM
What was supposed to be the cover of Eros? Abe mentioned all the packaging art was finished or about to be finished I think, I'm curious to see the cover..... Was it a picture of something? Or was it just drawn, etc.? 

I don't think there was ever anything really made available but for a while the logo on the deftones store had changed to this kinda cupid like picture. I always imagined it would be more romantic kind of art like that picture of the madonna with the heart and all the knives in it... or something like that. I haven't seen either of those in ages so if anyone has them, please share. My descriptions are probably not much help.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Shadow46/2 on Apr 08, 2012, 09:10 AM
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2479/sanstitre1on.png)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoner664 on Apr 08, 2012, 09:20 AM
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2479/sanstitre1on.png)

This would be dope.. Fan made or official.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Apr 09, 2012, 09:41 PM
That picture looks pretty somber, which reinforces my thoughts that Eros was going to be kind of a self titled part 2.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Apr 09, 2012, 10:30 PM
I think it was what they used for the Deftones.com background + links
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Apr 09, 2012, 10:39 PM
I think it was what they used for the Deftones.com background + links

Correct.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Apr 16, 2012, 10:51 AM
Which one of the known Eros songs was/is everyone excited to hear the final/studio/full version of? The one in clip #3 fucking makes my brain explode. It sounds almost it could be a Tool song. So much bass and those drums are pretty awesome. I can imagine now Chino screaming over that riff.

 ;D

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit on Apr 16, 2012, 06:13 PM
When I first heard Melanie I thought ''What a cool song - I can't wait, in a few weeks/months I'll be listening to the studio version on my new copy of Eros.''
Little did I know :(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Teknoman on Apr 16, 2012, 10:16 PM
When I first heard Melanie I thought ''What a cool song - I can't wait, in a few weeks/months I'll be listening to the studio version on my new copy of Eros.''
Little did I know :(

Same thing here... and talking about Melanie have you noticed that Steph played that song live on a 7 strings guitar but in all Eros studio clips he is playing an 8 strings... i wonder why.

PS. My guesssing: Maybe he didnt want to take his 8 strings guitar on tour just to play one single song.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on May 10, 2012, 06:00 AM
It would be nice if someone could take the stuff we know from Eros and fix it up a little, so we can at least have our own little idea of how those songs would sound all nice and mastered.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on May 14, 2012, 12:12 AM
When I first heard Melanie I thought ''What a cool song - I can't wait, in a few weeks/months I'll be listening to the studio version on my new copy of Eros.''
Little did I know :(



Same thing here... and talking about Melanie have you noticed that Steph played that song live on a 7 strings guitar but in all Eros studio clips he is playing an 8 strings... i wonder why.

PS. My guesssing: Maybe he didnt want to take his 8 strings guitar on tour just to play one single song.

That could be the case. Now that I've heard the 8 string, imagine how heavy it'll sound on Eros?!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on May 14, 2012, 03:09 AM
I really want listen Chi playin' guitar..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on May 14, 2012, 03:15 AM
Chi played some guitar on Eros?! What????
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on May 14, 2012, 03:29 AM
No, Abe did. Y they scrapped it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on May 14, 2012, 03:31 AM
And then Frank did vocals right?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on May 14, 2012, 04:55 AM
Chi played some guitar on Eros?! What????

Check it out this interview, 2008

¿Are you playing all the guitars on the album?

No, Chino plays guitars on songs, too. Actually, we have this huge identity crisis in our band, I thnk. I play bass on some songs, I play keyboards on a couple songs and obviously I play guitar; Chino plays guitars and plays bass on a song. And on this record, Chi wants to explore his creative roots, so now he’s playing guitar on a couple songs. Abe’s obviously just playing drums; I’m like, “Abe, why don’t you step out and grab a keyboard, man? Let me get back there, I’ll throw a beat down; mix it up.” Our attitude when we’re jamming, you know we’re just having fun, goofing around. And I don’t mean goofing around like it doesn’t matter; like have fun with it, it’s music. I think if you stick to a certain set of rules all the time in music, you’re limiting the music. Because you don’t know what really can happen or what can came out if you just kind of let go and let it be what it’s gonna be.

Ultimate Guitar (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/deftones_theres_more_of_a_melodic_side_on_new_album.html)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on May 14, 2012, 12:42 PM
Luis is right. In the intro of the Eros videos, you can see Chino holding a bass guitar and Chi holding a guitar, if I'm correct.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on May 14, 2012, 08:57 PM
That just made me hard abt Eros once again, damn it! Record just sounds idk.....I guess unimaginable still. In a great way ::)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: momo on May 21, 2012, 01:12 PM
i was told that they were gonna do eros but idk what to believe anymore i need some update its been a while since ive been here and i feel real lost and stupid lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on May 22, 2012, 12:22 AM
i was told that they were gonna do eros but idk what to believe anymore i need some update its been a while since ive been here and i feel real lost and stupid lol
read thru about the last 42 pages....don't believe it all tho. old news buddy
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on May 22, 2012, 10:05 AM
The fact that Chi is playing guitar on Eros is all the more reason why they should release it soon.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Jun 06, 2012, 08:13 AM
I always thought it was very cool how intricate the song in the beginning of the Eros clips sounded, the drums and guitars and bass all kind of like go against each other, in a good way of course. When I first heard that it hyped me up so much because I thought it sounded alot like At the Drive In.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Jun 28, 2012, 09:37 AM
Its kind of sad that everyones given up on this.... I mean theres not much we can do but.... Everyones so distracted by the prospect of the new album... We've lost sight of Eros....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jun 29, 2012, 07:18 PM
Its kind of sad that everyones given up on this.... I mean theres not much we can do but.... Everyones so distracted by the prospect of the new album... We've lost sight of Eros....

i swear to you, if you ever get to hear eros, it won't be anywhere near as good as you think it is. i would guess there are some dope songs on it, no doubt, but i can't see how it can live up to the insane hype it has gotten. we will have new deftones music soon though, why not focus on that for now? we can go back to eros later  8)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Jul 01, 2012, 09:49 AM

i swear to you, if you ever get to hear eros, it won't be anywhere near as good as you think it is.

Well I agree with that, but I really hope there is an off chance that I fall madly in love with it just like i did with s/t and snw (when i first heard a few songs from that album).
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Jul 03, 2012, 03:38 PM
i'm sure we will dig it, just not as much as we think, due to the hype. i don't think we will hear it during deftones active years though, maybe they will release it after they split up, like misfits released their scrapped static age album after they disbanded. or, eros will rot away in a safe forever
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoner664 on Jul 28, 2012, 02:19 AM
http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q (http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q)

Dunno if these small snippets have ever been surfaced (My bad if they have) but I figured it  would be something to spark this thread back up... Hope the new album has a similar dark grungy sound that Stef is doing here in this Eros session..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: normsteez on Jul 28, 2012, 02:33 AM
http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q (http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q)

Dunno if these small snippets have ever been surfaced (My bad if they have) but I figured it  would be something to spark this thread back up... Hope the new album has a similar dark grungy sound that Stef is doing here in this Eros session..

yeah buddy, these snippets have been available for 4 years. This guy just compiled them into one video.

On a side note, Eros is the last thing on my mind. We are going to be hearing brand new material at any time now.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RollerDerby on Jul 29, 2012, 11:42 AM
Even with the new album creeping it's way here, and even with all the hype, I believe there is something here that we're all anticipating. I'm excited as hell for October 9th to come, but it doesn't down my eagerness for Chi to wake up/Eros being released. Each album has diversified the band's sound, I need Eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Jul 29, 2012, 09:27 PM
http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q (http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q)

Dunno if these small snippets have ever been surfaced (My bad if they have) but I figured it  would be something to spark this thread back up... Hope the new album has a similar dark grungy sound that Stef is doing here in this Eros session..

whoa never heard of this before! great find!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheShade1989 on Jul 29, 2012, 09:58 PM
Rosemary to me is the vibe I'd imagine to get frm Eros. I guess heavier, but it has that dark and slightly more experimental vibe to it. Honestly, I think ppl would be disappointed if we gt to hear Eros. I dont say that because of the music, but purely because it's been hyped up and anticipated for yrs that I doubt it'd really live up to anyone's expectations.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Jul 29, 2012, 10:04 PM
We'll never hear it anyway so let's just be happy with what we've got.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jul 29, 2012, 10:50 PM
Expectations as far as what? Who said it was the best fawkin record ever anyways? All I expected was for it to be released so as far as being dissappointed, it would have to be thinner that DE for me. Expectations are in your imaginations. It's just another record they wrote that never was released. Not a record they wrote that you should expect to be pure bliss just because it was locked up or Chi jammed on it.  :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RollerDerby on Jul 30, 2012, 01:28 AM
Expectations as far as what? Who said it was the best fawkin record ever anyways? All I expected was for it to be released so as far as being dissappointed, it would have to be thinner that DE for me. Expectations are in your imaginations. It's just another record they wrote that never was released. Not a record they wrote that you should expect to be pure bliss just because it was locked up or Chi jammed on it.  :)


I simply want to hear it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Shadow46/2 on Jul 31, 2012, 11:02 PM
Don't know if anyone here is familiar with the band Beak, but the old synthy ""You've Seen the Butcher" song from deftones' myspace in 08 sounds vaguely like their song Yatton.

This is really just an excuse for me to play it.

Beak - "Yatton" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoRYlIDWzpk#)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Shadow46/2 on Jul 31, 2012, 11:03 PM
doblepost
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: x Rx King x on Aug 01, 2012, 04:15 AM
We'll never hear it anyway so let's just be happy with what we've got.

I dunno about that... Chino said that once Chi is back on his feet, he hopes to take him back out on the road again with Eros under their belt. Come to think of it, the tracks on Eros were tentatively titled after stripper's names, right? I wonder if Rosemary would've been a track they initially planned to release with Eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Aug 01, 2012, 04:35 AM
We'll never hear it anyway so let's just be happy with what we've got.

I dunno about that... Chino said that once Chi is back on his feet, he hopes to take him back out on the road again with Eros under their belt. Come to think of it, the tracks on Eros were tentatively titled after stripper's names, right? I wonder if Rosemary would've been a track they initially planned to release with Eros.

I don't expect that Chi will ever be on his feet...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Aug 01, 2012, 06:52 AM
We'll never hear it anyway so let's just be happy with what we've got.

I dunno about that... Chino said that once Chi is back on his feet, he hopes to take him back out on the road again with Eros under their belt. Come to think of it, the tracks on Eros were tentatively titled after stripper's names, right? I wonder if Rosemary would've been a track they initially planned to release with Eros.

I don't expect that Chi will ever be on his feet...

I personally think he will and on a side note, let's be positive about this situation. I mean, would you like something to think about you that way?

Rosemary could be a stripper's name and there is no Eros material on this record but it doesn't necessarily mean the new stuff isn't influenced by it. I am sensing a small influence but mostly SNW from what we've heard.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Aug 01, 2012, 07:48 AM
I don't think they would have Sergio have any credit toward something Chi didn't get to launch (if they were to, maybe Melanie since we've heard it) I say this because they didn't release it due to the fact that he's down right now let alone use material from Eros to add to this one. It's almost obvious they would never do it I think anyways.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 01, 2012, 11:17 AM
Expectations as far as what? Who said it was the best fawkin record ever anyways? All I expected was for it to be released so as far as being dissappointed, it would have to be thinner that DE for me. Expectations are in your imaginations. It's just another record they wrote that never was released. Not a record they wrote that you should expect to be pure bliss just because it was locked up or Chi jammed on it.  :)

Generally though when they haven't decided to officially release something, that means its mind blowing. Look at stuff like a few gems from the SNW demos, and some songs like "The Boys Republic" or "Lovers". They just didn't put them on an album for some reason and they were near perfect, and yet they can release now crap like "Diamond Eyes" and come behind it with total confidence? Seems a little ass backwards to me, so I will expect Eros to be at least pretty decent for now, because most of the little bits of what I heard I pretty much felt was solid and sounded pretty fucking epic.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Millennia on Aug 02, 2012, 08:36 AM
Expectations as far as what? Who said it was the best fawkin record ever anyways? All I expected was for it to be released so as far as being dissappointed, it would have to be thinner that DE for me. Expectations are in your imaginations. It's just another record they wrote that never was released. Not a record they wrote that you should expect to be pure bliss just because it was locked up or Chi jammed on it.  :)

Generally though when they haven't decided to officially release something, that means its mind blowing. Look at stuff like a few gems from the SNW demos, and some songs like "The Boys Republic" or "Lovers". They just didn't put them on an album for some reason and they were near perfect, and yet they can release now crap like "Diamond Eyes" and come behind it with total confidence? Seems a little ass backwards to me, so I will expect Eros to be at least pretty decent for now, because most of the little bits of what I heard I pretty much felt was solid and sounded pretty fucking epic.

I think if a band writes mind blowing music, they tend to officially release it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Aug 02, 2012, 08:40 AM
We'll never hear it anyway so let's just be happy with what we've got.

I dunno about that... Chino said that once Chi is back on his feet, he hopes to take him back out on the road again with Eros under their belt. Come to think of it, the tracks on Eros were tentatively titled after stripper's names, right? I wonder if Rosemary would've been a track they initially planned to release with Eros.

I don't expect that Chi will ever be on his feet...

I personally think he will and on a side note, let's be positive about this situation. I mean, would you like something to think about you that way?

Rosemary could be a stripper's name and there is no Eros material on this record but it doesn't necessarily mean the new stuff isn't influenced by it. I am sensing a small influence but mostly SNW from what we've heard.

I'm being as positive as I can. But it's hard to believe that he's ever going to function like normal again from what we've seen so far. Right now. He's basically a vegetable. And it's a sad thing to see. I'm just saying. I wouldn't get your hopes up for him ever being back in the band. I think him speaking again would be a great accomplishment.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 28, 2012, 09:48 AM
Okay, "Entertain Me" leaked, must mean this is next..... COME ON, COME ON, COME ON, ITS ALREADY BEEN FOUR YEARS
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Aug 28, 2012, 10:02 AM
I believe Entertain Me is NOT leaked, but released by its owner over the internet..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Aug 28, 2012, 10:04 AM


"I've been contacted by the band management about the Deftones documentary "Entertain Me" leakage. They asked that the link be taken down as the film was never approved by concerned parties, nor was it entirely completed.  The film, as it is now, was never meant to be released by any means in any public forum."
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Aug 28, 2012, 01:58 PM
I believe Entertain Me is NOT leaked, but released by its owner over the internet..

Wrong. Andrew Bennett is super pissed.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defburn on Aug 28, 2012, 02:56 PM
I have the Eros album but I've been contacted by the band management about the Eros album. They asked that the eros album  was never approved by concerned parties, nor was it entirely completed.  T

I was forced to delete the original Eros album








Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defburn on Aug 28, 2012, 02:57 PM
[/b][/b]
No It's a joke
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Aug 28, 2012, 03:00 PM
I believe Entertain Me is NOT leaked, but released by its owner over the internet..

Wrong. Andrew Bennett is super pissed.

so we have a Deftones fan that could hack Andrew's computer?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Aug 28, 2012, 05:28 PM
I believe Entertain Me is NOT leaked, but released by its owner over the internet..

Wrong. Andrew Bennett is super pissed.

so we have a Deftones fan that could hack Andrew's computer?

No. That's not how the real world works.

Someone had a friend who had a copy. They copied it to their computer and uploaded it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Sep 20, 2012, 11:51 PM
At least we know EROS is coming out at some point.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bewareofrats on Sep 21, 2012, 01:55 AM
Well....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Sep 21, 2012, 01:57 AM
At least we know it still has a fighting chance of coming out. Nothing is ever guaranteed.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 21, 2012, 04:55 AM
so don't doubt it again. shit gets old ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Sep 21, 2012, 05:09 AM
At least we know it still has a fighting chance of coming out. Nothing is ever guaranteed.

That's right. This is a hell full of good intentions
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: scatterbrain on Sep 21, 2012, 05:22 AM
At least we know it still has a fighting chance of coming out. Nothing is ever guaranteed.

That's right. This is a hell full of good intentions
So true man.I don't think a album has been so anticapated by fans for any band,ever.most bands fans wouldev forgot about it by now.if anything we just get more exiceted as time moves along.we wont ever let this go,till a physical copy is in our hands.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Sep 21, 2012, 05:50 AM
At least we know it still has a fighting chance of coming out. Nothing is ever guaranteed.

That's right. This is a hell full of good intentions
So true man.I don't think a album has been so anticapated by fans for any band,ever.most bands fans wouldev forgot about it by now.if anything we just get more exiceted as time moves along.we wont ever let this go,till a physical copy is in our hands.
exactly.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bewareofrats on Sep 21, 2012, 06:46 AM
It's not that anticipated by me.  It is, but I am much more interested in hearing new stuff.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Sep 22, 2012, 07:45 AM
 8)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RollerDerby on Sep 22, 2012, 02:28 PM
Am I the only person that is curious if Eros will be re-recorded if Chi doesn't come out Of a coma?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RollerDerby on Sep 22, 2012, 02:30 PM
Not being morbid, I swear. I just don't like the thought of sergio perforReming that last album.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RollerDerby on Sep 22, 2012, 02:32 PM
I like Sergio, but that was the last piece Chi contributed to.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: M1GHTY M4VS on Sep 22, 2012, 02:47 PM
(http://i.qkme.me/35cnh4.jpg)

Hardly doubt they'll rerecord it, they haven't even touched Melanie live, they just stepped away from it and shelved it for better times, they didn't say they're going to do anything to it as it is essentially done, they know how to pay respect, It'd be the same as if Dave Grohl rerecorded the Cobain Voices just because he isn't able to contribute anymore don't go in that direction thinking just because Vega is a substitute he embarresses meaningful stuff. For sure he knows how to handle the situation. Sometimes I just think they can't make satisfying decisions regarding eros other than Chi getting out again and beeing himself like ever.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Sep 23, 2012, 02:08 AM
whch is not going to happen the band has another one or  two albums left in them and by that time chi wont have made a full recovery, yes  "miracles" happen but lets be realisitic, we prolly wont see eros until they disband or maybe not ever, that being said a s a big eros fan im gunna keep whining about it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Sep 23, 2012, 11:10 AM
It will leak. Eventually.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Knucklestones on Sep 23, 2012, 02:28 PM
It will leak. Eventually.
Probably. Entertain Me did and we thought we'd never get to see that.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: punkflop01 on Sep 29, 2012, 07:44 AM
Not sure if posted already, but what a mis-leading title.  Fucking assholes.  http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3194599/deftones-might-release-eros-the-last-album-with-chi-cheng/ (http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3194599/deftones-might-release-eros-the-last-album-with-chi-cheng/)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Sep 29, 2012, 04:13 PM
Only another 6 years to go until it leaks.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Corleone on Sep 29, 2012, 07:31 PM
Terry Date is Deftones.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jacob on Sep 29, 2012, 09:37 PM
It's not that anticipated by me.  It is, but I am much more interested in hearing new stuff.

I agree. I just don't get this obsession with Eros. yes, it would be very interesting to hear it. but for one, it wasn't finished and judging from the SNW demos, unfinished Deftones material isn't all that exciting. second, we haven't even heard anything, not as much as a demo, and yet everyone is certain that it was the most amazing music they ever did? what if it sucks? you will be so god damn disappointed then. even if it's mediocre, hearing it will be like a huge slap in the face for all of you hyping it up. and what about Chi? would it really be fine to release the album everyone considers his last (so far), and risk letting everyone down?

if it leaks or is released, that's great. but until then, just enjoy the music they're actually making now. not only for your own mental health, but also out of respect for the band.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Sep 29, 2012, 10:09 PM
I just don't get this obsession with Eros. yes, it would be very interesting to hear it. but for one, it wasn't finished and judging from the SNW demos, unfinished Deftones material isn't all that exciting.

Well, that's your opinion. I love these demos and they're definitely exciting to me. Just accept that some people love that kind of material and you'll understand the obsession.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Sep 30, 2012, 11:41 AM
I just don't get this obsession with Eros. yes, it would be very interesting to hear it. but for one, it wasn't finished and judging from the SNW demos, unfinished Deftones material isn't all that exciting.

Well, that's your opinion. I love these demos and they're definitely exciting to me. Just accept that some people love that kind of material and you'll understand the obsession.

Agreed.

And I wouldn't exactly call Eros unfinished, all it needed was half of Chinos vocal tracks. Other than that it was finished....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Sep 30, 2012, 11:45 AM
I just don't get this obsession with Eros. yes, it would be very interesting to hear it. but for one, it wasn't finished and judging from the SNW demos, unfinished Deftones material isn't all that exciting.

Well, that's your opinion. I love these demos and they're definitely exciting to me. Just accept that some people love that kind of material and you'll understand the obsession.

Agreed.



And I wouldn't exactly for Eros unfinished, all it needed was half of Chinos vocal tracks. Other than that it was finished....
Definitely agree with this that had all the tracks refined and just needed to lay them down they wouldn't have played melanie live if they only had demos they usually wait till the album pretty much done before playing songs live.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Sep 30, 2012, 11:52 AM
Then again though they did play "Finger of Death" pretty damn early, but I think that was due to the fact that they *thought* they had a whole album, (given that Chinos earliest statement about Saturday Night Wrist was "straight up evil" when clearly the only thing from that era that matches that description is "Buffalo/Finger of Death") but then maybe trashed all that really dark stuff besides FOD for the Ezrin demos.

Thats not the point though, it was confirmed several times, Eros is a pretty much done album, and thats all that matters. 
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Sep 30, 2012, 12:22 PM
Yeah i think thats what happened they said they practically threw half the stuff away when they changed
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Sep 30, 2012, 07:08 PM
which was sad
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: bewareofrats on Oct 01, 2012, 12:22 AM
I just don't get this obsession with Eros. yes, it would be very interesting to hear it. but for one, it wasn't finished and judging from the SNW demos, unfinished Deftones material isn't all that exciting.

Well, that's your opinion. I love these demos and they're definitely exciting to me. Just accept that some people love that kind of material and you'll understand the obsession.

Me too.  I like how creative yet different those demos are.  I expect Eros was more along those lines.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 01, 2012, 01:23 AM
yea way back when eros got cut, people got pissed at me cuz i wanted hear that shit. nice to know that other people wnat to hear it too. and all you fucks who say otherwise cant eat shit, cuz when an older song from 92 pops out you all are the ones to want it and talk about how awesome it is. Whocares what they put out when they put out, you are a deftones fan for a reason; they diverse have thier own sound you a just an idiot for thinking other wise.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 02, 2012, 09:19 PM
@SNW

Stef :All you need to do is just sing over the music !
Chino : I dont like this song. I dont feel it.
Stef : Stop being an asshole and do your job, the song will be great.
Chino : It is not, goddamnit !..



@Serj Tankain

Stef: What do u think about this song?
Serj: This is a great demo. ''..nanaaa..nanana...nanana..stay away from you..universeee...nanana''
Stef: Omg, you did it in 1 day. See, Chino?
Chino: -_-' ok,whatever...


@Eros
Deftones: Working with Terry Date again, it is awesome. He is like our 6th member.

@DE
Deftones: Working with Nick is way better than Terry. Because we dont wanna do that dark songs and smoke or drink so much.

@KNY
Deftones: Terry was avialable but we pick up Nick again. Because working with Terry is no good for us. We can do heavy,dark songs without him. We didnt like his helps at Eros so Nick is the one for us.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rainnyx4 on Oct 03, 2012, 01:34 AM
@Deftonesfans

"Dumb as shit."
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteen on Oct 03, 2012, 01:44 AM
Besides, demos happen before the creativity police get involved!

Eros is a mystery and that's it's charm for me.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jacob on Oct 03, 2012, 02:26 PM
Eros is a mystery and that's it's charm for me.

and that is exactly my point. it's a typical case of you wanting what you can't have. if it's leaked or released, the novelty will probably wear off really fast.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on Oct 03, 2012, 07:29 PM
Eros is a mystery and that's it's charm for me.

and that is exactly my point. it's a typical case of you wanting what you can't have. if it's leaked or released, the novelty will probably wear off really fast.

or, you know, maybe it's the best thing they've ever made
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 03, 2012, 09:58 PM
and the mystery goes on !..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Tempest2012 on Oct 05, 2012, 04:59 PM
Okay so I am late to the party so to speak regarding this thread, but is this album ever going to see the light of day in your guys' opinions?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: N0S3BLEED976 on Oct 05, 2012, 05:11 PM
Sometime.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 06, 2012, 03:35 AM
Yes if,
1) Chi makes a fascinating recovery and is back on the stage in less than a year (Least likely though I'm hoping)
2) The 'Tones disband and put out a massive discography relase in which EROS is included (Somewhat likely if they disband)
3) Due to the outcry of fans they decide to relase EROS as a thank you to all the hardcore fans, possibly ina deluxe vinyl release (Least Likely)
4) Someone within the industry, record company, band circle finds/steals/leasks the album (Most likly to happen IMHO, just look at Entertain Me)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hidalgo on Oct 06, 2012, 03:47 AM
they said Chino only finished a little more than half the vocals, so he would have to finish the vocals. i wonder if he already has the lyrics writen down, or on rough demos, or if he'd have to make up new melodies & lyrics to the unfinished songs
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 06, 2012, 04:08 AM
hmm well we can only hope   :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoolsys07 on Oct 07, 2012, 10:26 PM
I think it will be released in some form, at some time. Probably not as an official album, but maybe 5 songs or so will be officially released. Whatever Chino didn't finish, I strongly doubt he will go back and finish up. Like they always say, they would rather write new shit than work on an album that's years old and that reflects a certain time in their life. They've moved on. Which holds true to my own work. I have a tough time finishing shit, and it is very hard to go back and work on a song that's 5 years old than just write all new shit all together...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 07, 2012, 10:27 PM
Yea thats understandable i guess.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 11, 2012, 02:49 AM
The album were finished include lyrics.
They were remastering it on the studio.
So all the songs are complete   INNNNNN    MYYYYYYY    OPINIOOOOOONNNN !!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Oct 11, 2012, 02:51 AM
The album were finished include lyrics.
They were remastering it on the studio.
So all the songs are complete   INNNNNN    MYYYYYYY    OPINIOOOOOONNNN !!!!!!!!!!

It's not an opinion when it's 100% wrong. They've said many times that chino never finished the vocals.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 11, 2012, 03:51 AM
ok show me a documented up to date source. that counter acts the one where chino said they may hold in the attic for future release.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Playhouse on Oct 11, 2012, 08:28 AM
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
just found this
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: UrZ* on Oct 11, 2012, 08:34 AM
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
just found this

That's the SNW session demo + the live song put together.. sounds pretty horrible haha
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Playhouse on Oct 11, 2012, 08:37 AM
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
just found this

That's the SNW session demo + the live song put together.. sounds pretty horrible haha

ohhh right
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 11, 2012, 10:55 AM
The album were finished include lyrics.
They were remastering it on the studio.
So all the songs are complete   INNNNNN    MYYYYYYY    OPINIOOOOOONNNN !!!!!!!!!!

It's not an opinion when it's 100% wrong. They've said many times that chino never finished the vocals.

You think Chino starts to write lyrics while they are middile of remastering on the studio?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 11, 2012, 02:19 PM
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
just found this

That's the SNW session demo + the live song put together.. sounds pretty horrible haha
if you dont like it get off the thread newbie.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: cvthedrv on Oct 11, 2012, 02:32 PM
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
just found this

That's the SNW session demo + the live song put together.. sounds pretty horrible haha

dude what the fuck, that shit is fucking beautiful.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 11, 2012, 02:33 PM
I don't know man, it makes my ears all weird.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 11, 2012, 02:34 PM
It sounds fucked up like every thing has a echo,why did they even bother doing that?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 11, 2012, 02:39 PM
Maybe it because its two tracks mixed together
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Oct 11, 2012, 02:56 PM
finger of death was played live in 2004, two years before SNW was released, but was removed from the final cut. talking about this home-made version of f.o.d, as an eros song, is like talking about a home-made gods hand demo version mixed with a live version as it would be an around the fur era song. it's way off
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 11, 2012, 03:01 PM
Maybe it because its two tracks mixed together
Yeah i know that but the timing's fucked up so it just sounds like a mess.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 11, 2012, 03:30 PM
the bpms are diff
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteen on Oct 11, 2012, 06:09 PM
Strangely quite like the sound of it, if not a little weird.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Oct 11, 2012, 06:21 PM
live version is perfect as it is
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ZackND on Oct 12, 2012, 01:59 PM
What song do you like guys like better, Melanie or Finger of Death? I choose Melanie, imagine how sweet that part sounds after the second chorus.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 12, 2012, 02:14 PM
Finger of Death. Anytime.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 12, 2012, 02:20 PM
Sort of tempted to go with melanie but i have to choose Finger of Death so much more twisted and dark love that shit minus that stupid clapping.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ZackND on Oct 12, 2012, 02:32 PM
Sort of tempted to go with melanie but i have to choose Finger of Death so much more twisted and dark love that shit minus that stupid clapping.
Really I thought the clapping was kind of cool. Actually both songs are pretty dark, hopefully one day studio versions will be released
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 12, 2012, 02:38 PM
Sort of tempted to go with melanie but i have to choose Finger of Death so much more twisted and dark love that shit minus that stupid clapping.
Really I thought the clapping was kind of cool. Actually both songs are pretty dark, hopefully one day studio versions will be released
I think it would be better without it also it's done real awkwardly like it's not smooth there will just randomly be 2 claps by their own.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ZackND on Oct 12, 2012, 02:47 PM
How about the clapping in the beginning of poltergeist , doubt that will be on the album but who knows
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Oct 12, 2012, 03:01 PM
How about the clapping in the beginning of poltergeist , doubt that will be on the album but who knows

It will be.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Playhouse on Oct 13, 2012, 01:49 AM
How about the clapping in the beginning of poltergeist , doubt that will be on the album but who knows
why would you doubt that?
It's part of the song.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ZackND on Oct 13, 2012, 06:21 PM
i don't know
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Oct 13, 2012, 07:49 PM
Is Poltergeist on Eros? ::) Ahhhhhhhhhhhh....EROS
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 14, 2012, 01:50 PM
what the hell is wrong with you who said polter was on eros or that any of the KONY tacks were on eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 14, 2012, 01:57 PM
what the hell is wrong with you who said polter was on eros or that any of the KONY tacks were on eros.
Probably hinting that threads going off topic,or just stupid
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 15, 2012, 12:54 AM
i guess..  ::)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ZackND on Oct 15, 2012, 02:30 AM
what the hell is wrong with you who said polter was on eros or that any of the KONY tacks were on eros.

what do you mean? no one said poltergeist was on eros
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 15, 2012, 02:43 AM
eh who cares the point is moot now.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: shoop on Oct 15, 2012, 02:48 AM
it looks like you were talkin to yourself lol, it makes sense if you read it like that
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 15, 2012, 03:18 AM
well I am crazy so mebbe.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ZackND on Oct 15, 2012, 03:23 AM
haha ok sorry. i'm confused. i might try to fraudulently join the "make a wish foundation" and see if they'll let me hear EROS
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Oct 15, 2012, 04:10 AM
what the hell is wrong with you who said polter was on eros or that any of the KONY tacks were on eros.
Probably hinting that threads going off topic,or just stupid
lol really? chill out kids
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 15, 2012, 04:12 AM
ok mama
  ;D
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Oct 15, 2012, 04:16 AM
whats your deal? seriously? i was kidding fool. And other guy, stupid? cmon dood, gotta b a dickhead abt it ?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 15, 2012, 04:30 AM
i honestlyhave no i dee uh whats going on but uhm.. EROS FOR PRESIDENT!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Oct 15, 2012, 08:47 AM
 Yes!!! Eros for president!!!! Koi No Yokan for now...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: xToxin on Oct 16, 2012, 03:10 PM
Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#)

Man. . listened to this and then Finger of Death and it sounded dope.

Deftones - Finger of Death - Studio Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUFEEmYDZRQ#)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Oct 16, 2012, 03:25 PM
finger of death is a snw demo, why people keep on posting this in the eros thread i don't know
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: xToxin on Oct 16, 2012, 03:49 PM
Yeah, I just found that out (or well remembered it rather) still sounds cool together though.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 16, 2012, 03:59 PM
finger of death is a snw demo, why people keep on posting this in the eros thread i don't know
Because it remastered at Eros
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Oct 16, 2012, 04:13 PM
eros clip 3 ain't buffalo
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 16, 2012, 06:08 PM
Well f you read the whole thread, It was stated by someone that they would liked if Buffalo/Finger of Death was on EROS, not that it was for a fact.

Then it was proclaimed that B/FoD had played as early as '04, so technicly it could be a Lovers B-Side.

However the Studio Intrumental in the Ezrin Demos is now the song we all know and love, that will not ever see the light of day until the 'tones realize that use fans give up our inheritances, children and dignity for any new music.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 17, 2012, 07:49 AM
I thought it started because someone asked out of the unreleased tracks which we would rather hear Melanie from eros or Buffalo/Finger of death from SNW era.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Oct 17, 2012, 08:52 AM
And that is a really tough one to answer for me, wow! :-X
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 17, 2012, 09:50 AM
And that is a really tough one to answer for me, wow! :-X
Haha yeah i had to think about for a while as well but i had to go for buffalo love the darkness it has, it's more different to what we've already heard.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoolsys07 on Oct 17, 2012, 10:20 AM
However the Studio Intrumental in the Ezrin Demos is now the song we all know and love, that will not ever see the light of day until the 'tones realize that use fans give up our inheritances, children and dignity for any new music.

Oh dude, No! The live version is the one that we all know and love! Or should anyway! IN MY OPINION, IMO! NOT A FACT, JUST IMO. The Ezrin track to me was just a plus, but the live version is the one that I love. It just sounds darker, and sounds awesome with Chino singing over it, gives you a whole new perspective on the song. Even though I can't understand a word he's saying, and he probably hadn't even written any lyrics for it yet, could have been on-the-spot even...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 17, 2012, 10:37 AM
However the Studio Intrumental in the Ezrin Demos is now the song we all know and love, that will not ever see the light of day until the 'tones realize that use fans give up our inheritances, children and dignity for any new music.

Oh dude, No! The live version is the one that we all know and love! Or should anyway! IN MY OPINION, IMO! NOT A FACT, JUST IMO. The Ezrin track to me was just a plus, but the live version is the one that I love. It just sounds darker, and sounds awesome with Chino singing over it, gives you a whole new perspective on the song. Even though I can't understand a word he's saying, and he probably hadn't even written any lyrics for it yet, could have been on-the-spot even...
with you on the on that love that version Chinos singing is so all over the place I just imagine him stumbling all over the stage just singing anything its just pure emotional mumblings,and the instrumentals add to it their kind weird ,off time,dark and twisted .
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Oct 17, 2012, 12:06 PM
You guys should start a 'SNW demo are the shit' thread, cuz its irrelevant to talk about fod on eros thread
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 17, 2012, 12:21 PM
You guys should start a 'SNW demo are the shit' thread, cuz its irrelevant to talk about fod on eros thread
it's onn topic someone asked which you'd want to hear melanie or fod so people were just answering
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Oct 17, 2012, 12:56 PM
it's onn topic someone asked which you'd want to hear melanie or fod so people were just answering

My bad then, i'm here because im looking an update for eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 17, 2012, 12:59 PM
it's onn topic someone asked which you'd want to hear melanie or fod so people were just answering

My bad then, i'm here because im looking an update for eros.
Haha aren't we all
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 17, 2012, 01:26 PM
You guys should start a 'SNW demo are the shit' thread, cuz its irrelevant to talk about fod on eros thread
Then come back to this thread 5 years later cuz you are not gonna see any update..
So, stop being a ''stay on topic'' guy and shut the shit up
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 17, 2012, 02:14 PM
damn i love the new rock.

i say 3 years tho.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 17, 2012, 03:12 PM
Sorry buddy, im on my period :p
Yeah 3 years sound about right
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: therealdaebat on Oct 17, 2012, 04:32 PM
You guys should start a 'SNW demo are the shit' thread, cuz its irrelevant to talk about fod on eros thread
Then come back to this thread 5 years later cuz you are not gonna see any update..
So, stop being a ''stay on topic'' guy and shut the shit up

Also, they took this guy's jib.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Oct 17, 2012, 05:14 PM
"stay on topic guy" lol thats why there's a thing called a 'thread'. If u wanna go off topic all the time then merge all the fucking thread.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 17, 2012, 05:24 PM
MERGE ALL THE THREADS!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 18, 2012, 01:01 AM
dude..fuck rules!
this is basicly chat with deftones fans.

it so pathetic seeing posts about ''you cant write this, dont talk this, dont do this, dont post this'' in every fuckin thread..

yeah merge them all!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Oct 18, 2012, 02:09 PM
Every fucking thread? The only thread in which I did set exceptional rules was the Koi No Yokan thread, and LEGITIMATELY. Don't exaggerate and make it look excessive at all points, please.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftones86 on Oct 18, 2012, 02:14 PM
Dude your excessive moderation will be moderated by those who moderate the moderators. haha
People bitch on here way to much im starting to think all of you have vagina's  big hairy yeast infected vagina's.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 18, 2012, 02:23 PM
Every fucking thread? The only thread in which I did set exceptional rules was the Koi No Yokan thread, and LEGITIMATELY. Don't exaggerate and make it look excessive at all points, please.
Yea and that Koi No Yokan thread wasn't even discussion just trolls everywhere,this threads less active and were having legit discussions.Speaking of Eros i wonder how much frank actually appears on Melanie you can't really hear him that much apart from a few little bits in the live recording would be interesting to hear the difference in studio version he can really take songs to the next level with his input.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 18, 2012, 02:28 PM
Every fucking thread? The only thread in which I did set exceptional rules was the Koi No Yokan thread

Yeah you are saying that but your dick riderz (a.k.a. DeftonesNz or bewareofshit) telling us to not go off-topic in every thread. Include this. Just read 5 post above this.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 18, 2012, 02:31 PM
Every fucking thread? The only thread in which I did set exceptional rules was the Koi No Yokan thread

Yeah you are saying that but your dick riderz (a.k.a. DeftonesNz or bewareofshit) telling us to not go off-topic in every thread. Include this. Just read 5 post above this.
I have not once told people to stay on topic,i said maybe another members post was implying it was off track and thats it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Oct 18, 2012, 02:33 PM
Fuck the police. Lets go off topics
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 18, 2012, 02:38 PM
sorry then DeftoneNZ, he must be someone else


edit: but i know you've been an asshole..just cant remember
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 18, 2012, 03:44 PM
whats life in not but a giant troll fest :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: x Rx King x on Oct 18, 2012, 04:11 PM
whats life in not but a giant troll fest :)

true story. e.c. Al-Qaeda
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rock_n_frost on Oct 18, 2012, 09:18 PM
whats life in not but a giant troll fest :)
is this proper English or can i also say ''What if life was nothing but a troll fest'' ?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Oct 19, 2012, 12:55 AM
dude..fuck rules!
this is basicly chat with deftones fans.

it so pathetic seeing posts about ''you cant write this, dont talk this, dont do this, dont post this'' in every fuckin thread..

yeah merge them all!
Like i said, to restart a thread w the same name and think that's gonna change things here? this place is full of twats w a.d.d. and a.d.h.d (no offense) and starting a thread over or puffing chests out aint gonna scare anyone except those dick riders, lol u r right abt them "T.P.I.D."
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 19, 2012, 01:15 AM
whats life in not but a giant troll fest :)
is this proper English or can i also say ''What if life was nothing but a troll fest'' ?
arrgh i dont proof read -a bad habit i know i meant, "whats life IF not but a giant troll fest." mybad yall
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Teknoman on Oct 23, 2012, 10:20 AM
Remember that "Eros In studio clip 5" where Stef is talking about poker? and then Abe says "That's a song" and Stef replies "Yeah! i know that song" and then Abe says "Alright lets check it"...

I tried to hear the "song" Abe is talking about by manipulating the audio of that video and there is a "song" but you can only hear some guitar chords almost at the end of the clip (when Abe leaves) and i know its stef's guitar because he has a very particular guitar tone so i guess they where mixing a song at that moment.

I can upload a short MP3 if you want to hear it but its only 5 or 6 seconds of clear guitar sounds the rest if very noisy.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kurtone on Oct 23, 2012, 10:35 AM
The song he's talking about is "the gambler" by kenny rogers, in the song it says "know when to hold em, know when to fold em" because Stef is talking about poker
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 23, 2012, 10:54 AM
The song he's talking about is "the gambler" by kenny rogers, in the song it says "know when to hold em, know when to fold em" because Stef is talking about poker
Yeah i remember that ,pretty sure someone asked same question in comments section of youtube clip lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Teknoman on Oct 23, 2012, 08:39 PM
Im pretty sure it is not Kenny Rogers, its a heavily distorted guitar that plays a riff trough out the whole "interview" but you can only hear it clearly at the end of the clip.

Here is the mp3 in case you want to check it out
http://www.mediafire.com/?8ivr1r5x9wah72a (http://www.mediafire.com/?8ivr1r5x9wah72a)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kurtone on Oct 23, 2012, 09:07 PM
I'm saying that's the song Abe is referring to since Stephen is talking about playing online poker.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Teknoman on Oct 23, 2012, 10:04 PM
I'm saying that's the song Abe is referring to since Stephen is talking about playing online poker.

Oh!... he is quoting the lyrics, i get it now... anyways that's another small piece of Eros right there.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Teknoman on Oct 28, 2012, 06:01 AM
Maybe some of you will find this downloads Interesting (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,13769.msg785527.html#msg785527)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: xToxin on Oct 28, 2012, 05:20 PM
Does anyone have any idea what the album cover would've been?

(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p486/deathiscertain29/DEFTONES-EROS-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: OnyxPanicProne on Oct 28, 2012, 05:50 PM
HA!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Playhouse on Oct 31, 2012, 01:32 PM
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/chandler345/ScreenShot2012-10-31at103212PM.png)



(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/chandler345/ScreenShot2012-10-31at102945PM.png)


http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD/5725849 (http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD/5725849)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 31, 2012, 01:43 PM
That looks pretty cool was it for a project or something?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Playhouse on Oct 31, 2012, 01:45 PM
That looks pretty cool was it for a project or something?
Yeah i think maybe its someones art piece. Just came up on google then, thought it was pretty sweet.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: xToxin on Oct 31, 2012, 01:58 PM
Are those the real track titles?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Oct 31, 2012, 02:02 PM
Are those the real track titles?
Don't know if they all are but i recognise of few of Ero's working titles (they were all stripper names)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chuckles on Oct 31, 2012, 02:56 PM
I don't know... But I dig the sketches...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Nov 01, 2012, 06:08 AM
some names.......wish we cld see those lyrics though i'm 99.9% sure it's a blurr of nothing for the concept. pretty cool, but outta boredom?  :-\ Had to b a project, it is pretty great!!! Had me excited about hearing it actually... very cool 8)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: NYRexall on Nov 02, 2012, 12:30 AM
So I'm going to state the obvious and guess that 'Trempest' and 'Tempest' are the same song? It's probably been touched on elsewhere in this thread but I'm not going to go digging for it...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Visitant on Nov 02, 2012, 01:03 AM
So I'm going to state the obvious and guess that 'Trempest' and 'Tempest' are the same song? It's probably been touched on elsewhere in this thread but I'm not going to go digging for it...

I've been curious about that since I saw Koi No Yokan's tracklist.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 02, 2012, 01:05 AM
So I'm going to state the obvious and guess that 'Trempest' and 'Tempest' are the same song? It's probably been touched on elsewhere in this thread but I'm not going to go digging for it...
Doubt it there's nothing to suggest they used anything from Eros and the names not even the same
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DAFTPUNK87 on Nov 02, 2012, 01:09 AM
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/chandler345/ScreenShot2012-10-31at103212PM.png)



(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/chandler345/ScreenShot2012-10-31at102945PM.png)


http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD/5725849 (http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD/5725849)
that looks sick. wish it were the real deal
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Visitant on Nov 02, 2012, 01:16 AM
So I'm going to state the obvious and guess that 'Trempest' and 'Tempest' are the same song? It's probably been touched on elsewhere in this thread but I'm not going to go digging for it...
Doubt it there's nothing to suggest they used anything from Eros and the names not even the same

I doubt it too but the names are obviously very similar.  Kinda weird they would name a song 'Trempest' on Eros and then name a song 'Tempest' on Koi No Yokan.  Even though Eros is pretty much finished, the song titles we knew about could change before it's actually ever released.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Nov 02, 2012, 01:25 AM
I thought so too but recycling Eros material would kind of be like shooting themselves in the foot. I don't think they had all these songs since Eros and were so desperate for just one more that they use an old one and slightly change the name. It doesn't really make any sense if you think about it. Also I thought this had been touched on by the band? Maybe not. Someone should still ask them though.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Nov 02, 2012, 01:31 AM
It's not a damn Eros song. Just because the working title of ONE Eros song has similar spelling to a final title for kny does not make them the same song.

You guys jump to conclusions way too quick
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: The Chauffer on Nov 02, 2012, 01:39 AM
It's not a damn Eros song. Just because the working title of ONE Eros song has similar spelling to a final title for kny does not make them the same song.

You guys jump to conclusions way too quick

No way to really know. Unless the band specifically stated that it's not the same song.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 02, 2012, 02:00 AM
It's not a damn Eros song. Just because the working title of ONE Eros song has similar spelling to a final title for kny does not make them the same song.

You guys jump to conclusions way too quick

No way to really know. Unless the band specifically stated that it's not the same song.
Haha Yeah i don't think that is the case i have thought to myself because of how little we heard of Eros they could have just used it on DE and KNY lol but I don't believe they have.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 02, 2012, 11:30 AM
I don't know if that was meant to be the actual artwork, but it's sick as fuck.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 02, 2012, 11:44 AM
The sketch of the photo of the band looks like one of the DE era photos.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 02, 2012, 12:42 PM
The sketch of the photo of the band looks like one of the DE eras photos.
It is a sketch of that photo ,the actual photo's at the bottom he just replaced the deer with the bird shape
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Caín on Nov 02, 2012, 12:45 PM
It's not a damn Eros song. Just because the working title of ONE Eros song has similar spelling to a final title for kny does not make them the same song.

You guys jump to conclusions way too quick

No way to really know. Unless the band specifically stated that it's not the same song.

No way to really know. Unless the band specifically stated that it's the same song.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 02, 2012, 01:09 PM
again... "you've seen the butcher" was an electronic eros demo, but the title ended up on the diamond eyes album. not the song, but the title. i think they just used an old title like that again this time
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: lungdamage on Nov 02, 2012, 03:45 PM
they had the electro version of the end of beware in the WP days as well
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kitesvera on Nov 02, 2012, 05:53 PM
Its not the same song, deftones have confirmed it more than once. All the the material with Vega is new material not stuff from Eros. They would not have Vega playing ideas from Eros, they confirmed that as well.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Pndi on Nov 04, 2012, 12:01 AM
they had the electro version of the end of beware in the WP days as well

for real ? i need to hear that one
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Nov 04, 2012, 11:08 AM
they had the electro version of the end of beware in the WP days as well

for real ? i need to hear that one

its on Entertain Me DVD, they played that electronic beat as an opener for their backtoschool tour
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 04, 2012, 11:53 AM
they had the electro version of the end of beware in the WP days as well

for real ? i need to hear that one

its on Entertain Me DVD, they played that electronic beat as an opener for their backtoschool tour

Please share somehow?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 04, 2012, 11:56 AM
Here

Deftones - Korea live @ Verdun Auditorium, November 14th 2000 [1/18] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mwEd8CcIqE#ws)

Not Entertain Me but you hear it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 04, 2012, 12:01 PM
Ah, thanks Ves.

Though Im a little disappointed. I thought it was an electronic version of the outro riff in "Beware".... :(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: lungdamage on Nov 04, 2012, 12:24 PM
Ah, thanks Ves.

Though Im a little disappointed. I thought it was an electronic version of the outro riff in "Beware".... :(

it is

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 04, 2012, 12:41 PM
Not the outro riff. The outro noise, the very end of the song.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 04, 2012, 12:47 PM
Not the outro riff. The outro noise, the very end of the song.
Bingo.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: lungdamage on Nov 04, 2012, 01:45 PM
Not the outro riff. The outro noise, the very end of the song.
Bingo.

o_O  - so they have erased all our minds...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 04, 2012, 01:49 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_I2uQkGxIykM/SwU3ADolS8I/AAAAAAAAHyM/7_toVW3Npzo/s1600/hypno+amy.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: lungdamage on Nov 04, 2012, 03:32 PM
well played..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: gui on Nov 04, 2012, 03:35 PM
Here

Deftones - Korea live @ Verdun Auditorium, November 14th 2000 [1/18] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mwEd8CcIqE#ws)

Not Entertain Me but you hear it.

OH SHIT, that's the first show i have ever seen! thanks!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: NYRexall on Nov 06, 2012, 07:10 AM
It's not a damn Eros song. Just because the working title of ONE Eros song has similar spelling to a final title for kny does not make them the same song.

You guys jump to conclusions way too quick

I was half-serious, for starters. And the only difference between song titles in this case is ONE letter. What conclusion do you think people are going to jump to? Go ask the band for us since you seem so sure and then report back here.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ignore the fashion on Nov 06, 2012, 09:24 PM
I am pretty sure I seen in interview, maybe I read it, but Chino said out if reaped for Chi they didn't teach Sergio any of the material that was/is on Eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: xToxin on Nov 06, 2012, 09:43 PM
Deftones need Terry Date.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chuckles on Nov 07, 2012, 12:10 AM
Deftones need Terry Date.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 07, 2012, 04:38 PM
Deftones need Terry Date.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: NYRexall on Nov 08, 2012, 07:14 AM
What about now? Do they still need him now?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 08, 2012, 07:25 AM
More than ever, I think.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: gui on Nov 08, 2012, 07:27 AM
Chino would still croon, whatever the producer.

I like the production on there alot.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Corleone on Nov 08, 2012, 07:30 AM
More than ever, I think.

He is the lost member, besides chi. :(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 08, 2012, 07:46 AM
Chino would still croon, whatever the producer.

I'm not sure Terry would have been happy with his DE/KNY style of vocals.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2012, 09:57 AM
Chino would still croon, whatever the producer.

I'm not sure Terry would have been happy with his DE/KNY style of vocals.

Exactly, obviously Terry didn't have much of a problem with Chino crooning, since he did do it back in the old days. Its just it had a much different more genuine feel and it sounded a lot more like it was in the room with you, rather than all big and bold like it does on all the albums since Diamond Eyes.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Nov 08, 2012, 09:02 PM
Two more hours.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Nov 08, 2012, 09:03 PM
Two more hours.

lolz
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 08, 2012, 10:25 PM
The new official SL joke, eh? Let's make a combo, then.


Two more hours. (http://lemonparty.org/)


BOO-YAH!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SquealLikeaPig on Nov 08, 2012, 10:51 PM
The new official SL joke, eh? Let's make a combo, then.


Two more hours. (http://lemonparty.org/)


BOO-YAH!

Damn man, I wish you would have put a NSFW label on that.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Nov 08, 2012, 10:56 PM
I wish the person who did the joke to me would have too.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: scatterbrain on Nov 08, 2012, 11:04 PM
You guys and that lemonparty shit.......
two more hours
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: tarkil on Nov 09, 2012, 10:50 AM
Ha ha ! Gotta love that shit...   :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: xToxin on Nov 09, 2012, 02:58 PM
I'm starting to think this is all a cover up, the band and Chino are saying 'we don't want to release it till Chi comes back' but I think they pretty much know it's not going to happen. He more than likely won't recover enough to play bass with them again. The label doesn't like Eros and the band knows that, I've heard bands get in binds with the label, the label owns the music, not even Deftones own it even though they made it. So the label isn't going to ever release this. If Deftones don't have rights to release it then it's all one big cover up.

So i doubt' we will ever hear this album.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 10, 2012, 02:18 AM
I doubt that the studio would never have let them get that close to a finished album if they didn't approve of it since SNW the record company have been wanting to hear what the guys are doing so its not like they didn't hear it.And they say best case scenario they would want Chi to be able to see it but they're not going to hold out for that Stephen said in an interview he wanted to release with Diamond Eyes i think it's just what they say it is and they didn't want to put out an album that didn't capture that time and can you imagine having to tour those songs without Chi that would be heartbreaking for the guys,releasing Eros now would be a mistake they've built alot of momentum with Sergio and the new stuff i think Eros will be a parting gift to the fans
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 10, 2012, 10:58 PM
I doubt that the studio would never have let them get that close to a finished album if they didn't approve of it since SNW the record company have been wanting to hear what the guys are doing so its not like they didn't hear it.And they say best case scenario they would want Chi to be able to see it but they're not going to hold out for that Stephen said in an interview he wanted to release with Diamond Eyes i think it's just what they say it is and they didn't want to put out an album that didn't capture that time and can you imagine having to tour those songs without Chi that would be heartbreaking for the guys,releasing Eros now would be a mistake they've built alot of momentum with Sergio and the new stuff i think Eros will be a parting gift to the fans

I think it would have been awesome if they released it along with Diamond Eyes. Two albums at once? Thats a rarity for a band that takes three years per album. But of course, Deftones being Deftones, they hold back on us with the cool shit....
 
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Nov 14, 2012, 11:29 AM
I wanna see someone try to cover some of the snippets we heard from this album so we can get a different perspective on it
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SIGH on Nov 16, 2012, 07:10 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??

Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Visitant on Nov 16, 2012, 07:36 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??

Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?

No.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Nov 17, 2012, 10:58 AM
Deftines eros in studio 2008 Clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vtD81rcMI#)

Everytime I see this I see it soooooooo far away :(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: illthrowROCKS@U on Nov 17, 2012, 04:27 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??

Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?

Question #1: Not at all.

Question #2: Not at all. It may be the album to come out soonest from their last (though Adrenaline to ATF was 2 years also), but I'm pretty sure as far as time and energy spent it was much more than previous stuff. Most of their early days they didn't spend as much time writing and recording as they do now, but a lot more bullshitting.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Flamberg on Nov 26, 2012, 03:58 AM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??

Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?

Yes...

Eros have song with working title Trempest.
New album have song Tempest.

What do you think about that? :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 26, 2012, 04:01 AM
They're not the same songs,the names aren't even the same...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Flamberg on Nov 26, 2012, 04:42 AM
Did you hear Trempest?

The names are the same for about 99.7%
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 26, 2012, 04:45 AM
Did you hear Trempest?

The names are the same about 99.7%
No but why would you assume they're the same song because the names are similar it's completely unfounded it doesn't even sound the Eros era stuff
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Nov 26, 2012, 08:06 AM
Did you hear Trempest?

The names are the same for about 99.7%

its just song titles, doesnt mean shit with their early or new material.
"you've seen the butcher" once used as a title track for a demo they put on myspace, and they used that title again on DE.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DAFTPUNK87 on Nov 26, 2012, 08:14 AM
Did you hear Trempest?

The names are the same for about 99.7%

He may have just liked that titled, and decided to drop the "R" and use that song title on KNY.
OR some of those song titles for Eros may not even be totally legit.. who knows.
But NO I highly doubt they would use some Eros material given that they do plan to release Eros in the near future..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ignore the fashion on Nov 28, 2012, 08:32 AM
How close were we actually to seeing a release of Eros anyways, those could've all been working titles and not really mean a damn thing.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 28, 2012, 08:36 AM
Very close they had estimated release dates and all the instrumentals were done Chino just had to finish vocals on some of the songs,So i think the songs were all chosen and written and they were about to finish recording when Chi's accident happened
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Dath on Nov 29, 2012, 12:45 AM
Since all the Eros working titles were supposed to be stripper names, that means...man, I'd think anyone would take Tempest over Trempest for a stage name. She had to have thought of it, right?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteen on Nov 29, 2012, 01:43 AM
At the end of the day, none of us know.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 29, 2012, 01:54 AM
Since all the Eros working titles were supposed to be stripper names, that means...man, I'd think anyone would take Tempest over Trempest for a stage name. She had to have thought of it, right?
I don't even get what your'e saying lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: godin on Nov 29, 2012, 02:11 AM
I have my doubts that Eros was "nearly done". Deftones had a nasty habit around that time (and for years before) of taking FOREVER to get anything done in the studio. It took them like 2 years to get those Bob Ezrin Instrumentals done and even then they just sounded like Demos/ Loose song ideas. My guess is they were at similar stages, maybe a little bit closer, than those demos around the time Chi had his accident
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 29, 2012, 02:21 AM
But they also performed a song of the album they usually do that a couple of months before release,plus i don't see any reason why they would lie about how far they had got i have seen multiple interviews where they all said all the final instrumentals were done and %75 percent of vocals too ,plus they said they were really enjoying working together and it was going really smooth so it wasn't a complicated process like SNW
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Bifrost on Nov 29, 2012, 02:43 AM
I have my doubts that Eros was "nearly done". Deftones had a nasty habit around that time (and for years before) of taking FOREVER to get anything done in the studio. It took them like 2 years to get those Bob Ezrin Instrumentals done and even then they just sounded like Demos/ Loose song ideas. My guess is they were at similar stages, maybe a little bit closer, than those demos around the time Chi had his accident

yeah I highly doubt it was close to being finished as well, and I have a feeling the material would be very SNW-esque (disjointed) the band was in a weird state around the time it was written, kinda just going through the motions... but hey maybe folks would like that, it seems like SNW is getting more love these days
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Dath on Nov 29, 2012, 02:47 AM
Since all the Eros working titles were supposed to be stripper names, that means...man, I'd think anyone would take Tempest over Trempest for a stage name. She had to have thought of it, right?
I don't even get what your'e saying lol

Well, as far as I know, all the Eros demos had stripper's names as working titles. If that's true, there is or was a stripper somewhere calling herself "Trempest".
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 29, 2012, 02:53 AM
I always thought it was bad times aswell but Chino said recently in that front magazine interview that Eros is when they started doing the whole working together deal they made Diamond Eyes and KNY so fast,Also about the stripper name thing i don't know if they were talking about real life strippers or just made up names that sounded like stripper names
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Dath on Nov 29, 2012, 02:54 AM
I always thought it was bad times aswell but Chino said recently in that front magazine interview that Eros is when they started doing the whole working together deal they made Diamond Eyes and KNY so fast,Also about the stripper name thing i don't know if they were talking about real life strippers or just made up names that sounded like stripper names

Probably made up names.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Nov 29, 2012, 09:18 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2r5x4pt.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: only pieces remain on Nov 29, 2012, 11:19 PM
i've never seen that pic, awesome.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Nov 30, 2012, 12:36 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2r5x4pt.jpg)

i dunno... looks like chino pee'd himself. still dig all the stuff regarding eros, doesn't matter if it's pictures of clips of music. guess i bought the hype/mystery about it. i wonder if we will hear it someday. still wonder IF they're gonna release it, what will they do about the tracks without finished vocals? 45 year old chino putting vocals on stuff he wrote when he was like 35.. the sound of his voice will sound different than the 2008 voice
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RoyBiggins on Nov 30, 2012, 03:12 AM
@musings
Big Roy has also contiplated the dilemma pertaining to the vocals. Chef Royardee believes Eros will not be released in its entirety but only the tracks vocals have been completed for. Maybe a 7 track album or so. It's also possible Chino will record the vocals all over again. I hope not.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Nov 30, 2012, 04:04 AM
Interesting point about the vocals but I think if they release they'll do it properly
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ignore the fashion on Nov 30, 2012, 08:18 AM
Deftines eros in studio 2008 Clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vtD81rcMI#)

Everytime I see this I see it soooooooo far away :(

I didn't have internet around this time and missed out of all of the Eros clips and stuff, are there more videos like so?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: M1GHTY M4VS on Nov 30, 2012, 08:22 AM
yeah Eros Clips 1 to 5 atleast
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: samson simpson on Nov 30, 2012, 05:32 PM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2r5x4pt.jpg)

i dunno... looks like chino pee'd himself. still dig all the stuff regarding eros, doesn't matter if it's pictures of clips of music. guess i bought the hype/mystery about it. i wonder if we will hear it someday. still wonder IF they're gonna release it, what will they do about the tracks without finished vocals? 45 year old chino putting vocals on stuff he wrote when he was like 35.. the sound of his voice will sound different than the 2008 voice

i miss Chi
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Dec 01, 2012, 12:11 PM
Why has this not leaked yet? Someone who's heard it, leak this shit. Stephen, Sergio, Shaun Lopez, do what needs to be done.


Or....... no... no....

Frank.

You leak it.


No one will suspect you. You'll be safe.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Dec 01, 2012, 12:31 PM
@Chef Royardee

I would easily prefer 7 original eros songs with the 2008 recorded vocals, that captures that time, how it was meant to sound - over 11 new versions by an older chino today - that is in a different mindset. if chino would re-record the songs with new vocals and then release them, it would take about an hour before the fans would say "ok cool, but i really wonder how the REAL Eros sounds" me included.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: only pieces remain on Dec 01, 2012, 11:54 PM
yeah. just leave the tracks without vocals the way they are. a few instrumentals and the 7 or so recorded tracks would be sweet.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sooniletugo on Dec 02, 2012, 12:53 AM
I get you guys' point but I'd prefer Chino recording vocals over them, instead of just releasing the instrumentals, personally. And I think that's what will happen if/when it's time for Eros to come out.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 02, 2012, 04:51 AM
Yeah i would definitely want vocals as well, hearing some of those team sleep demos it sucks that Chino's not on them i think it'd be the same for this
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Dec 02, 2012, 08:40 AM
yeah. just leave the tracks without vocals the way they are. a few instrumentals and the 7 or so recorded tracks would be sweet.
thats the way it will be bc it will get leaked that way. Chino will never add vocals to this old material. No time or desire to i think. Eros is Eros the way it is. Thats it in its complete stage now. And I like it this way too man. I remember following it week by week w the clips n such and don't want it to change if we hear what they did!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 02, 2012, 08:54 AM
Sort of depends if he has lyrics written for those songs I know the singing won't be the same but it's mainly the lyrics that would be hard to create especially now their not in that state of mind
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chuckles on Dec 02, 2012, 01:23 PM
pretty cool...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Bza々 on Dec 02, 2012, 01:49 PM
No way. Leak the shit as is. We want to taste the vibe that was then. Not that sound tainted by a 2012 Chino. If Team Sleep ever did more shit I don't want Chino going and putting down vocals on Formant or some shit. 2012 sounds for 2012 chino and vice versa. Leave the classic shit be.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: from_musings on Dec 02, 2012, 03:57 PM
what if chino's vocals are some really sinister badass shit on the 2008 recordings, but then this happy chino today change them and put commercial OoOooohUuuuaaah choruses on the whole thing. that would be so sad
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 02, 2012, 04:10 PM
Yeah that would be my worry that's why i would be ok if he just recorded vocals he had already written  but i would be worried about him writing new stuff
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ignore the fashion on Dec 02, 2012, 08:15 PM
I think if anything they should just release what's already been completed even if it is just 7 or 8 songs.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Ventrex on Dec 02, 2012, 08:28 PM
Deftines eros in studio 2008 Clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vtD81rcMI#)

Everytime I see this I see it soooooooo far away :(

I didn't have internet around this time and missed out of all of the Eros clips and stuff, are there more videos like so?

Just look at the first post of this thread. Vesanic sorted all the stuff of the Eros era. ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: gui on Dec 03, 2012, 02:58 AM
you guys are so full of shit. god.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RoyBiggins on Dec 04, 2012, 11:02 AM
you guys are so full of shit. god.

Are you joking? Or are you just being a badass? Big Roy wants to know
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: GrandeJano on Dec 04, 2012, 11:39 AM
so funny how people grab on to eros to get a last bit of "the old days", even though nobody really knows if its gonna be good stuff. Things you could hear til today didnt impress me really. Except of the introgroove on those "in the studio" - snippets.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RoyBiggins on Dec 04, 2012, 12:12 PM
What things did you hear other than the intro snippet and Melanie?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 04, 2012, 12:22 PM
There's small bit's of Abe of Stephen rehearsing and sometimes you can hear guitar in the background,The guitar tone is nicely crunchy to
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: GrandeJano on Dec 04, 2012, 12:39 PM
What things did you hear other than the intro snippet and Melanie?

exactly. theres that one introthing that sounds cool and thats like 10secs or something and the rest  you can hear is average jamming/rehearsal room demo stuff and melanie doesnt sound cool to me at all. Thats why Im wondering why apparently so many people seem to be in desperate need of that "album". Theres no other reason than the hope for eros being amazing because chi was still playing and it was made in the older days.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 04, 2012, 12:45 PM
Nah it's probably because of how dark it's mean't to be, apparently still the most dark and twisted stuff they've done to date and that usually means some good unorthodox music when Deftones are like that
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: GrandeJano on Dec 04, 2012, 01:15 PM
Nah it's probably because of how dark it's mean't to be, apparently still the most dark and twisted stuff they've done to date and that usually means some good unorthodox music when Deftones are like that

ok, I get that.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Dec 04, 2012, 02:48 PM
I just want to hear the last record made by the Deftones I grew up with. My interest in the album lies almost entirely in Melanie and Chi still being around. I don't have any expectations about the music whether its dark or experimental or the "old" Deftones but just to hear the last album Chi played on.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 04, 2012, 03:06 PM
I just want to hear it out of curiosity,I think some people have built it up in their heads to a point where the actual album can never live up I've even some people say it's better than KNY after not hearing a single studio track from Eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ghettovaquero on Dec 04, 2012, 11:09 PM
A friend of mine in Sacramento messaged me the following information regarding the new album, this is what he has heard about it:

"The new album will have longer songs, think 6 minutes or more, guitar solos, even more synth/keys/fx from Frank, lyrically will be more straightforward rather than cryptic, there will be more complex song structures, more guitar from chino, and faster drums (more double bass). Chi got a 6 string bass he's using on most songs and a fretless 5 string. Steph is using a new custom 8 string baritone guitar. Chino is using a lot of FX on his guitar parts so it doesn't even really sound like guitar that much.

Sounds like Koi No Yokan
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Dec 05, 2012, 01:26 PM
Nah it's probably because of how dark it's mean't to be, apparently still the most dark and twisted stuff they've done to date and that usually means some good unorthodox music when Deftones are like that

I don't know where you've gotten that it was supposed to be THE darkest album, I always just heard it was going to be as aggressive and dark as the older stuff.

I just want to hear the last record made by the Deftones I grew up with.

Amen.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 01:37 PM
Chino said it multiple times in the past and more recently in a interview from a couple of week's ago he said he starting playing some of the Eros songs on Abe's laptop and he had forgotten how dark and heavy it was,the video is Part 1 of the CraveOnline interview, But you can't always trust Chino lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Dec 05, 2012, 01:50 PM
Chino said it multiple times in the past and more recently in a interview from a couple of week's ago he said he starting playing some of the Eros songs on Abe's laptop and he had forgotten how dark and heavy it was,the video is Part 1 of the CraveOnline interview, But you can't always trust Chino lol

I just watched the interview, he says its a really good song and it was really heavy, but not like sonically heavy, but like in terms of the lyrics and the whole vibe of the song. So.... Idk?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 01:57 PM
Yea he was basically saying it was dark thematically I don't know what it's it like compared self titled but they've always said it's really dark
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Dec 05, 2012, 02:00 PM
Yea he was basically saying it was dark thematically I don't know what it's it like compared self titled but they've always said it's really dark

The intro song in the clips kind of reminds me of "Deathblow" for some reason....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 02:03 PM
I think. i may be wrong that it ended up as Beauty school
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Dec 05, 2012, 02:15 PM
I think. i may be wrong that it ended up as Beauty school

Been denied multiple times by Ves and others. I doubt it myself regardless, because I don't really see too big of a similarity. I think if anything it was kind of an unconscious repetition of ideas.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 02:17 PM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Dec 05, 2012, 02:19 PM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure

Also... "Beauty School" means nothing to me.....

That intro hurts my soul.... In the weirdest and best way possible  :o :D

Big difference  :P
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on Dec 05, 2012, 07:00 PM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure

Also... "Beauty School" means nothing to me.....

That intro hurts my soul.... In the weirdest and best way possible  :o :D

Big difference  :P

just had this sudden clarity
does 'beauty school' is a story about getting blow job by cute high school girl???
check out the chorus
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Dec 06, 2012, 12:57 AM
 ;D AWESOME HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Dec 06, 2012, 01:04 AM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure
I'm sure i heard the band say numerous times that DE and KNY are completely and thoroughly new. Shit ain't recycled guys, seriously already, lol. I mean how hard is it for them to write new? Not hard. Not Beauty School
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 06, 2012, 02:35 AM
Yeah it didn't mean it was on Eros it could have just been the riff they done it before written a riff and not used but then used it on the next album
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rainnyx4 on Dec 06, 2012, 05:37 AM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure

I remember around the time of Eros there were some other "voyeuristic" type videos going around.  You could see better about how they were playing that song.  Chino was on bass and Chi was playing the guitar.  Chi was playing that riff well above the 12 fret mark.  Beauty School is played much lower.

The song has a similar vibe but if you're going to say it's the same song reworked just based on the vibe, then you're going to have to say that all of their spacey songs are really just reworked Konami Codes.

It's not the same song.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 06, 2012, 05:45 AM
That doesn't matter it's dependant on tuning Beauty school is Drop C and is around the 6th fret but you can also play it up past 12 with a different tuning  I've seen tabs that are in a lower tuning and are up past 12 and it sounds exactly the same
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: lungdamage on Dec 06, 2012, 05:54 AM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure

I remember around the time of Eros there were some other "voyeuristic" type videos going around.  You could see better about how they were playing that song.  Chino was on bass and Chi was playing the guitar.  Chi was playing that riff well above the 12 fret mark.  Beauty School is played much lower.

The song has a similar vibe but if you're going to say it's the same song reworked just based on the vibe, then you're going to have to say that all of their spacey songs are really just reworked Konami Codes.

It's not the same song.


the first time i heard the start of beauty school, i thought 'waaaaaait a second' ;) reminded me of the intro to all the eros 'in the studio' clips too
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rainnyx4 on Dec 06, 2012, 06:03 AM
Again they've got similar vibes but they're not the same song.

I think it's funny that so many people are comparing those songs and yet no one ever talks about how so many of their songs are just variations of Engine #9.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 06, 2012, 06:10 AM
Of course there not the same song but they could have started with that riff and mixed it up to make the beauty school it just sounds like that riff could have evolved into Beauty school I'm not the only one who's said it reminds them of it look at the comments of those videos,They don't even have the same vibe Beauty school is alot more upbeat the notes just sound similar.I don't even know what your'e talking about with Engine #9 can you give some examples?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rainnyx4 on Dec 06, 2012, 07:13 AM
Of course there not the same song but they could have started with that riff and mixed it up to make the beauty school it just sounds like that riff could have evolved into Beauty school I'm not the only one who's said it reminds them of it look at the comments of those videos,They don't even have the same vibe Beauty school is alot more upbeat the notes just sound similar.I don't even know what your'e talking about with Engine #9 can you give some examples?

Engine #9 -> Headup -> Elite

Also, Korea -> Bloody Cape -> Royal (to a lesser extent)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 06, 2012, 07:42 AM
Do you actually play guitar? I can see the similarities between head up and elite but all the rest just aren't close Royal if anything would be with Head up ,Also Korea and Bloody Cape are way different Korea changes alot more Bloody Cape is more repetitive
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rainnyx4 on Dec 06, 2012, 09:33 AM
Do you actually play guitar? I can see the similarities between head up and elite but all the rest just aren't close Royal if anything would be with Head up ,Also Korea and Bloody Cape are way different Korea changes alot more Bloody Cape is more repetitive

Yeah I guess I've been playing guitar about 16 years now.

Engine #9, Headup, and Elite are all played in the same area of the guitar with a really similar groove (though in different tunings).  They're incredibly similar.  One of my only gripes with this band is when they occasionally get lazy and plagiarize themselves.

Korea and Bloody Cape have that same sort of pull off thing on the strings (and like I said, Royal to a lesser extent).

My point is, these songs have way more in common with each other than the Eros clip and Beauty School do.  And they didn't evolve into each other.  They're all separate distinct songs from different points in time.

From all information we have, Eros was essentially done except for the vocals.  Why would they be putting studio clips and include a song that doesn't even make the album?

The band has also said they started over from scratch.  Apparently, everything from that era didn't represent them artistically when they went to write Diamond Eyes.  Yet, people seem to think that this one riff was OK to rehash?  Doesn't make any sense.

They're different songs.  If we ever see Eros, I can guarantee we'll hear this song in it's entirety on the album.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Dec 06, 2012, 09:42 AM
Yeah i even said myself earlier that I doubt it but it could be possible sometimes you write a cool little riff and don't use it for years then eventually you get song for it ,They do copy themselves sometimes but it's not usually obvious unless you play the songs because with the changes in tuning people don't usually notice ,I think that's ok as long as it's not too similar alot of bands do it worse tot the point you can't tell them apart easily.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheyCallMeP on Dec 08, 2012, 06:41 PM
April 1st, Deftones should release Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan as a double disc and title it Eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sooniletugo on Dec 21, 2012, 04:55 AM
I hope they someday release the song with that intro that's often compared to Beauty School. Way better. Instantly gives me chills. It could very well be my favourite Deftones song if it was released. I'm curious for the studio version of Melanie too, and of course the rest of the Eros material, just for that missing piece of the puzzle between SNW and DE.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Dec 21, 2012, 09:13 AM
April 1st, Deftones should release Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan as a double disc and title it Eros.

thats fucking retarded
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TheyCallMeP on Jan 04, 2013, 03:13 AM
April 1st, Deftones should release Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan as a double disc and title it Eros.

thats fucking retarded

 :'(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit69 on Jan 04, 2013, 10:23 PM
2 more hours??
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Jan 05, 2013, 11:43 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??

Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?

I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on Jan 06, 2013, 03:57 AM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??

Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?

I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

What?

They're not even remotely similar in any musical fashion.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Jan 06, 2013, 04:24 AM
Yeah I don't see any similarities apart from the claps
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Jan 06, 2013, 09:20 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??

Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?

I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

What?

They're not even remotely similar in any musical fashion.

TO ME, the slow part that Stef is playing at the beginning FOD sounds like the verse in Poltergeist, just sped up. The "chorus" of FOD sounds like a slower part to the "I let you pretend..." part in Poltergeist. I just hear similar note changes in Stef's part. That is all. Just my take. Is it that hard of concept to think that Stef might've reworked FOD to Poltergeist.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Vesanic on Jan 07, 2013, 08:41 AM
Is it that hard of concept to think that Stef might've reworked FOD to Poltergeist.

Yes, it is, actually. As iceache has stated, they're not remotely similar in anyway. They're both heavy songs, I'll give you that, but they don't play at the same level of heaviness either.

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Jan 07, 2013, 09:31 AM
Finger of Death is way better song :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoner664 on Jan 12, 2013, 05:09 AM
I don't think my anticipation/longing to hear this album will ever die... 

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit on Jan 13, 2013, 04:22 AM
Finger of Death is way better song :)

No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!



I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.
........................ ;)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Jan 13, 2013, 04:38 AM
FOD/Bufallo does have vocals you've obviously only heard the instrumental demo listen to the live version from anaheim 09-30-2004

Deftones - Buffalo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_woQI1vSHRM#)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Jan 13, 2013, 07:02 AM
Finger of Death is way better song :)

No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!



I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.



Fuck you dude and fuck all the rest of you (all 3 of you haha) who are so butthurt at my IDEA/OPINION that both these songs are similar. I wasn't starting an argument...just throwing around discussion. I WAS JUST SAYING IT MIGHT BE A RE-WORKED SONG. Shit. I didn't claim that it IS or that I have proof...once again..just my IDEA that it MIGHT be. Just what I hear...holy fucking shit. If you guys don't agree, no need to fucking make me feel like a fucking dumb-ass. Just say, "nah, not really" and just move on. And since when is an argument 3 replies to ONE fucking post. I don't get you guys sometimes...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Jan 13, 2013, 07:16 AM
Haha i didn't try have a go at you I just said I didn't see it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Jan 13, 2013, 07:25 AM
Haha i didn't try have a go at you I just said I didn't see it.

Well...except you sweetie ;P
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Jan 13, 2013, 11:47 AM
Finger of Death is way better song :)

No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!



I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.



you area fucking idiot, why dont you do some research before you think, and realize that the majority of real tones fans live buffalo, yea it may never see the light of day , and people are tired of the hype it gets yes, but fuck it all you people are just maladroits-its good song it outdhines polter and if you just became a fan from the last two albums shut the fuck up you dont know there music well enough to judge man

fuck you all this songs badass
im out
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoner664 on Feb 17, 2013, 12:33 AM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ignore the fashion on Feb 21, 2013, 10:41 AM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....

Correct.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoolsys07 on Feb 21, 2013, 10:54 AM
FOD/Bufallo does have vocals you've obviously only heard the instrumental demo listen to the live version from anaheim 09-30-2004

Deftones - Buffalo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_woQI1vSHRM#)

It DOES NOT have vocals, in the sense that there are no actual words... Only moaning/crooning/mumbling if you will, but no actual lyrics... It's obvious that he was just trying to get a feel for the melody but no actual lyrics... Don't know if that helps or is destroying this conversation. Later!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Feb 21, 2013, 10:57 AM
That's why I didn't say lyrics lol still counts as vocals
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoner664 on Feb 21, 2013, 11:47 PM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....

Correct.

That sucks... Because, I really think that will be another reason this album will never grace our presence, because even if Chi does make a miraculous recovery, I doubt Chino will ever have the mindset to go that far back to a time and place where he was at a different point musically to finish the vocals to complete this album... Only way I see it releasing is like years down the road after Deftones are no more, and Warner wants to pump some cash from their name with the songs that were completed and mastered... Still, that me dreaming..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nicklav on Feb 22, 2013, 12:57 AM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....

Correct.

Got a source? I've always heard conflicting accounts of this and I'd like to know once and for all.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Feb 22, 2013, 02:06 AM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....

Correct.

Got a source? I've always heard conflicting accounts of this and I'd like to know once and for all.
Can't remember what it was on but the guys were joking in an interview around eros time and Chino was saying how Stephen was playing lots of golf and on-line poker and the rest of the guys said something like we can do want we now we've got all our stuff done and Chino said something like yeah fair enough I'm almost though and then we're all going to be busy.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sunbath on Feb 22, 2013, 03:00 AM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....

Correct.

Got a source? I've always heard conflicting accounts of this and I'd like to know once and for all.

I'm sure there's actual sources in this topic but it's been stated in multiple interviews by possibly every band member that the music was finished and vocals got half-way done..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ignore the fashion on Feb 22, 2013, 10:31 AM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....

Correct.

Got a source? I've always heard conflicting accounts of this and I'd like to know once and for all.

Here is a quote from an interview with Stef.

Quote
I’m interested in the circumstances surrounding the making of Diamond Eyes. It’s unique considering the Chi situation and the postponement of Eros.

When it relates to Chi, it’s two different Deftones. On one hand, we have Chi and a record that is nearly finished; it’s not all the way finished. The music is [done], but it’s just not all the way finished. It’s two separate entities, because we’re all focused on what’s going on with Chi and we can get a little emotional about that. But we balance it out by having this other Deftones where we’re all having a great time making music and doing this record. That’s what it comes down to.


http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/06/11/all-eyes-on-the-deftones-the-stephen-carpenter-interview/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/06/11/all-eyes-on-the-deftones-the-stephen-carpenter-interview/)

Also found this as well.

Quote
You had Eros written, but not recorded, before it...

FD: Yeah, pretty much. Chino was still doing vocals on half the tracks [before the accident], but music-wise it had been finished for a while.


http://thequietus.com/articles/04377-deftones-interview-diamond-eyesr (http://thequietus.com/articles/04377-deftones-interview-diamond-eyesr)       
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: rainnyx4 on Feb 22, 2013, 01:11 PM
The whole "only have way done with his vocals" thing could mean two different things.  On the optimistic side, he's already written all the vocals for the songs, just didn't get around to recording half of them.  On the other hand, it could mean that he never wrote lyrics or melodies for half of the songs.  That would suck.  Knowing both their hesitancy to revisit old stuff and their notorious laziness, the chances of Chino writing lyrics and vocal melodies for stuff that is years old would be pretty much zero.  If that was the case, the best we could hope for would be an EP.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit on Feb 28, 2013, 05:10 PM
Finger of Death is way better song :)

No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!



I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.



you area fucking idiot, why dont you do some research before you think, and realize that the majority of real tones fans live buffalo, yea it may never see the light of day , and people are tired of the hype it gets yes, but fuck it all you people are just maladroits-its good song it outdhines polter and if you just became a fan from the last two albums shut the fuck up you dont know there music well enough to judge man

fuck you all this songs badass
im out

Wow, you really know how to throw a little temper tantrum.
Did you run off and go and break one of your toys or do you think this is at last your time to act tough because you're on the internet hiding behind your computer?
You seem very touchy, is it your time of the month?
How would you even know from which album I became a fan?
Lastly before you use fancy words like maladroit why don't you actually check what they mean first fool.
Jeez your sentence doesn't even make sense, I don't know why I'm stooping to your level by replying.
Thanks DeftonesNZ, I never realized there was a version with vocals - understanding what the fuss is about now!
Chill out Jerry_Curls, noones trying to pull you down, sorry should have put a wink next to my reply.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Feb 28, 2013, 10:19 PM
mother fucker
i dont hide behind my"compute screen" as you put it , i dont live on this board like some people do
im just tired of eros, and any related material getting put down-this page is for it, NOT against it


and if you wana keep talking, PM me guy.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hank on Mar 01, 2013, 01:43 AM


I think we all will hear this album within 2-3 years after they hang it up .
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit on Mar 01, 2013, 07:51 PM
mother fucker
i dont hide behind my"compute screen" as you put it , i dont live on this board like some people do
im just tired of eros, and any related material getting put down-this page is for it, NOT against it


and if you wana keep talking, PM me guy.

Who's putting down Eros?
A bit difficult to do seeing as though we haven't heard it yet.
Calm down, go punch a wall or something.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit on Mar 01, 2013, 07:54 PM


I think we all will hear this album within 2-3 years after they hang it up .

I'm afraid you're probably right :( - when I first heard Melanie I never thought I'd still be waiting or even have to wait til after they've called it a day to hear the studio version.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nineteen on Mar 01, 2013, 09:59 PM
I don't want to go down the 'Will they end' route but I'd certainly love them to end at a high point (Dare I say currently). Nothing worse than fading away but I know that's subjective.... As long as I can see them a few more times obviously.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: dictatesofreason on Mar 02, 2013, 02:49 AM
mother fucker
i dont hide behind my"compute screen" as you put it , i dont live on this board like some people do
im just tired of eros, and any related material getting put down-this page is for it, NOT against it


and if you wana keep talking, PM me guy.

Who's putting down Eros?
A bit difficult to do seeing as though we haven't heard it yet.
Calm down, go punch a wall or something.

i masterbated angrily to twilight i feel better now

using generalization confuses some people, by EROS i meant BUFFALO, which we have heard.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Mar 02, 2013, 03:18 AM
Finger of Death is way better song :)

No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!



I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.

I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.



you area fucking idiot, why dont you do some research before you think, and realize that the majority of real tones fans live buffalo, yea it may never see the light of day , and people are tired of the hype it gets yes, but fuck it all you people are just maladroits-its good song it outdhines polter and if you just became a fan from the last two albums shut the fuck up you dont know there music well enough to judge man

fuck you all this songs badass
im out

Wow, you really know how to throw a little temper tantrum.
Did you run off and go and break one of your toys or do you think this is at last your time to act tough because you're on the internet hiding behind your computer?
You seem very touchy, is it your time of the month?
How would you even know from which album I became a fan?
Lastly before you use fancy words like maladroit why don't you actually check what they mean first fool.
Jeez your sentence doesn't even make sense, I don't know why I'm stooping to your level by replying.
Thanks DeftonesNZ, I never realized there was a version with vocals - understanding what the fuss is about now!
Chill out Jerry_Curls, noones trying to pull you down, sorry should have put a wink next to my reply.

I would LOVE if you edited your post with a wink. KTHXBYE :)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: play on Mar 03, 2013, 02:57 AM
Holy mother fuck. I want to hear this album. I want the anti-melody back.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Mar 03, 2013, 07:47 AM
mother fucker
i dont hide behind my"compute screen" as you put it , i dont live on this board like some people do
im just tired of eros, and any related material getting put down-this page is for it, NOT against it


and if you wana keep talking, PM me guy.

Who's putting down Eros?
A bit difficult to do seeing as though we haven't heard it yet.
Calm down, go punch a wall or something.

i masterbated angrily to twilight i feel better now

using generalization confuses some people, by EROS i meant BUFFALO, which we have heard.

"Buffalo" isn't from Eros. But if it was, I think that'd be a pretty good reason for people to get excited about this album ever being potentially released.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Mar 03, 2013, 07:56 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Mar 03, 2013, 08:03 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both

Correct, "Buffalo/Finger of Death" was first performed in September 2004 in Anaheim at one of their shows, thats before a majority SNW songs were probably even thought of yet, so unless they planned two albums in advance, theres no way that song was supposed to be on Eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Mar 04, 2013, 12:28 PM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both

Correct, "Buffalo/Finger of Death" was first performed in September 2004 in Anaheim at one of their shows, thats before a majority SNW songs were probably even thought of yet, so unless they planned two albums in advance, theres no way that song was supposed to be on Eros.

After deftones 2003, the SNW Era began and the writing started in 2004. From the Malibu sessions, Buffalo/Finger of Death was born.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Mar 04, 2013, 12:29 PM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both

I'd like to hear Melanie, even if the studio demo like Buffalo, the riff on an 8-string will sound amazing!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: BunsRaisinsPies on Mar 16, 2013, 10:55 PM
I'm gonna bump this thread mainly because I found something interesting.

Searching around Google for Eros clues, I came across this graphic designer who conceptualized his idea of Eros CD packaging, complete with tentative songs and stuff. Pretty cool shit

http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD-Packaging-Design/5725849 (http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD-Packaging-Design/5725849)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Mar 16, 2013, 11:06 PM
Already been posted in here before but it is a neat idea.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Mar 17, 2013, 02:58 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both

Correct, "Buffalo/Finger of Death" was first performed in September 2004 in Anaheim at one of their shows, thats before a majority SNW songs were probably even thought of yet, so unless they planned two albums in advance, theres no way that song was supposed to be on Eros.

After deftones 2003, the SNW Era began and the writing started in 2004. From the Malibu sessions, Buffalo/Finger of Death was born.

I was at the show the day before this one ;-) I'm looking at some of those promo posters they were giving at this tours' shows (searching the machine might reveal what you don't want to know spring 2005 and then another one from Taste of Chaos tour that says "Jesus Loves You-I know" and says Deftones New Album Summer 2006) and I love how uncertain/pushed back SNW was...so when were the Malibu sessions? Right after S/T tour in Spring 2004? or after the Hollywood/Anaheim HOB shows?

p.s. sorry to get off EROS topic :-)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nicklav on Mar 18, 2013, 03:07 AM
Thanks to everyone who answered my question a page back or so.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: buddyboy101 on Mar 18, 2013, 03:47 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both

Correct, "Buffalo/Finger of Death" was first performed in September 2004 in Anaheim at one of their shows, thats before a majority SNW songs were probably even thought of yet, so unless they planned two albums in advance, theres no way that song was supposed to be on Eros.

After deftones 2003, the SNW Era began and the writing started in 2004. From the Malibu sessions, Buffalo/Finger of Death was born.

I was at the show the day before this one ;-) I'm looking at some of those promo posters they were giving at this tours' shows (searching the machine might reveal what you don't want to know spring 2005 and then another one from Taste of Chaos tour that says "Jesus Loves You-I know" and says Deftones New Album Summer 2006) and I love how uncertain/pushed back SNW was...so when were the Malibu sessions? Right after S/T tour in Spring 2004? or after the Hollywood/Anaheim HOB shows?

p.s. sorry to get off EROS topic :-)

Never saw that Taste of Chaos poster, you have a pic?  The "searching the machine" posters were from the mini-tour in fall 2004 (no 2005 shows) when the band headed to Connecticut (the tour ended in Hartford), where they would hook up with Ezrin to record SNW at the end of 2004 and early 2005.  Prior to this, they were writing in Malibu (cerca Feb-Aug 2004).
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit69 on Mar 18, 2013, 03:56 AM
2 More Hours!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Mar 21, 2013, 09:31 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both

Correct, "Buffalo/Finger of Death" was first performed in September 2004 in Anaheim at one of their shows, thats before a majority SNW songs were probably even thought of yet, so unless they planned two albums in advance, theres no way that song was supposed to be on Eros.

After deftones 2003, the SNW Era began and the writing started in 2004. From the Malibu sessions, Buffalo/Finger of Death was born.

I was at the show the day before this one ;-) I'm looking at some of those promo posters they were giving at this tours' shows (searching the machine might reveal what you don't want to know spring 2005 and then another one from Taste of Chaos tour that says "Jesus Loves You-I know" and says Deftones New Album Summer 2006) and I love how uncertain/pushed back SNW was...so when were the Malibu sessions? Right after S/T tour in Spring 2004? or after the Hollywood/Anaheim HOB shows?

p.s. sorry to get off EROS topic :-)

Never saw that Taste of Chaos poster, you have a pic?  The "searching the machine" posters were from the mini-tour in fall 2004 (no 2005 shows) when the band headed to Connecticut (the tour ended in Hartford), where they would hook up with Ezrin to record SNW at the end of 2004 and early 2005.  Prior to this, they were writing in Malibu (cerca Feb-Aug 2004).

ignorethefashion just posted these in the bullshit thread...coincidence!

(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/079/8/b/deftones_tour_postcard_by_sd_cesar-d5yqq86.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Gaz on Mar 21, 2013, 12:26 PM
I'm gonna bump this thread mainly because I found something interesting.

Searching around Google for Eros clues, I came across this graphic designer who conceptualized his idea of Eros CD packaging, complete with tentative songs and stuff. Pretty cool shit

http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD-Packaging-Design/5725849 (http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD-Packaging-Design/5725849)

I have never seen that, thanks for posting it!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chuckles on Mar 21, 2013, 06:43 PM
Yup.. It was posted on their website.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: buddyboy101 on Mar 21, 2013, 07:41 PM
that's some good stuff, i think it was the background of the website at some point in 2006/2007
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on Mar 22, 2013, 03:18 AM
the best (visual) deftones page ever

http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html (http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: chuckles on Mar 22, 2013, 03:32 AM
the best (visual) deftones page ever

http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html (http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html)

sin duda alguna... no doubt about it..
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Shadow46/2 on Mar 23, 2013, 11:06 AM
the best (visual) deftones page ever

http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html (http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html)

Brings me back somethin fierce.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: play on Mar 23, 2013, 01:39 PM
the best (visual) deftones page ever

http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html (http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html)

sick!!!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Mar 26, 2013, 09:39 AM
*Facepalm* how many years do we need to wait.... Really, Deftones, really?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: TonyDanza555 on Apr 03, 2013, 12:47 AM
The album seems to be The Holy Grail in Deftones catalogue.I cant say  Im not intrigued. Love Melanie  and demo bits. Ive spoken to Shaun Lopez after FAR reunion London ULU gig in 2008 and he said that album is basically done. We talked about Chi and stuff, but he also said that after that short UK FAR tour , he (Slopez) gonna record vocals with Chino... So music was done. Dont think Chino recorded any vocals as they scrapped the album altogether soon after...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Apr 07, 2013, 10:55 AM
The album seems to be The Holy Grail in Deftones catalogue.I cant say  Im not intrigued. Love Melanie  and demo bits. Ive spoken to Shaun Lopez after FAR reunion London ULU gig in 2008 and he said that album is basically done. We talked about Chi and stuff, but he also said that after that short UK FAR tour , he (Slopez) gonna record vocals with Chino... So music was done. Dont think Chino recorded any vocals as they scrapped the album altogether soon after...

No the vocals on some songs we're done, I believe they were close to half-way with the vocals from all the information I've head here in interviews. I can't find them now though.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Apr 08, 2013, 04:56 AM
This is something terry said about the record. He said nothing really, but I thought I'd share anyway

As the interview ended, and being that Deftones are a large part of some peoples discography we had the opportunity to ask about the sidelined Eros record. Date was humble in his response saying,“I think because of the circumstances, it is the band’s record. It is there place to make any statement about the record. Chi is a very good friend and always has been and I can only hope that he wakes up and we can see him playing bass again.”(Deftones bassist Chi Cheng was involved in a terrible car accident in the latter part of 2008 that has left him in a semi-conscious state).



Source: http://kuoi.org/music/interviews/terry-date/ (http://kuoi.org/music/interviews/terry-date/)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: slyartwork on Apr 16, 2013, 10:48 PM
Have not said much about this record... But could this be released in like a year now since Chi passed? Would be a great thing to hear his work on this one.....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinata89 on Apr 17, 2013, 12:01 AM
Thank God, you broke the ice!  I wanted to post something about a potential Eros release on this thread earlier today, but felt it would seem too selfish or greedy--given the obvious situation at hand.

I, however, got to thinking a lot about this album (moreso than usual) and, as much as I've wanted this personally and as a fan, think it would be a great tribute to Chi and his legacy to release this album and pay homage to his impact on the band as a whole.

Call it an excuse, if you must.  But just an idea I had.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Apr 17, 2013, 12:19 AM
I think Eros will be released in the next year or two for sure. It sucks that it will finally be released due to such sad circumstances, but, as pinata89 said, it will also be a great tribute to Dai and his legacy.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on Apr 17, 2013, 05:50 AM
If they don't release it, I think that would almost be in bad taste. This album has twice as much importance now....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Apr 17, 2013, 06:00 AM
I think it would be a fitting tribute to him, reading those blog posts from the weeks before the accident he seemed really excited to show the fans the music he sounded really proud of what they had made, Also his family have mentioned they plan on doing something to carry on his name like a charity for brain trauma or seatbelt awareness this could be a great opportunity to inject some money into a worthy cause that also honours his memory, they could have a portion of album sales go to Chi's charity and with all the people that would buy the album it would be enough to really help some people especially since I doubt many people would feel ok about pirating it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ANattyRat on Apr 17, 2013, 06:46 AM
It'd be a good idea to release it, the last music Chi worked on, and everyone has wanted to hear it for ages. But do you think they will? It seems far-fetched to think they'll ever release it, just because it's become this hidden, locked-away thing that everyone wants. Hopefully they will, though, and hopefully people will look at it with the respect it deserves.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Apr 17, 2013, 07:07 AM
Yeah I think they've always intended to release it but if possible they wanted Chi to be conscious for it but now that options gone I can see them doing it as a tribute to Chi instead I still don't think it'll be soon maybe in a year or two, if they do it they'll want it to be done right.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nicklav on Apr 17, 2013, 08:12 AM
I would buy this album in every format if they released it. I do that anyways for Deftones records, so maybe I'll have to do it twice over for this.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: N0S3BLEED976 on Apr 17, 2013, 10:00 AM
I think they could charge whatever they want for it, fans would buy it anyway. At least I'd do so.
Hopefully they won't sell it through their website only. I have no credit card or paypal and do not plan to get them in the future.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Apr 17, 2013, 10:27 AM
Yeah neither do I plus I like to have a physical copy anyway especially if the price is the same. Would be sweet if they made it like a special edition Chi memorial album and charged a bit more than usual but had it in really nice packaging with a decent booklet with stories about Chi with photo's, maybe with a t-shirt or something aswell.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: play on Apr 17, 2013, 10:44 AM
I have a feeling we will never hear it.  :( It reckon it will be too hard for them. Just what i think anyway.

Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Apr 17, 2013, 09:38 PM
Well, that was totally unexpected, but...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s_SswA0Jbw8/TH2Pt9ptPTI/AAAAAAAAAs8/IH1q-XX6xpw/s400/7c82a15d.jpg)

Tracklist:

Dallas (4'37)
XO (5'11)
Alisson (3'44)
Destiny (2'16)
Melanie (2'40)
Latex (3'57)
You ate it (4'01)
Firelegs (3'12)
Trempest (2'30)
Maya (5'36)

Download (320kbps MP3):

www.mediafire.com/?3ibw0om00jf (http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/april-fools.jpg)

Mind = blown.
Trempest. Pre-Tempest?
I don't know if he used some working titles there, Just curious coincidence haha...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DJR on Apr 17, 2013, 09:41 PM
2 More Hours!

word
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on Apr 18, 2013, 02:18 AM
Well, that was totally unexpected, but...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s_SswA0Jbw8/TH2Pt9ptPTI/AAAAAAAAAs8/IH1q-XX6xpw/s400/7c82a15d.jpg)

Tracklist:

Dallas (4'37)
XO (5'11)
Alisson (3'44)
Destiny (2'16)
Melanie (2'40)
Latex (3'57)
You ate it (4'01)
Firelegs (3'12)
Trempest (2'30)
Maya (5'36)

Download (320kbps MP3):

www.mediafire.com/?3ibw0om00jf (http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/april-fools.jpg)

Mind = blown.
Trempest. Pre-Tempest?
I don't know if he used some working titles there, Just curious coincidence haha...

Trempest was a tentative Eros title. The band has addressed that it's a different song from Tempest.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ANattyRat on Apr 18, 2013, 02:35 AM
Yeah neither do I plus I like to have a physical copy anyway especially if the price is the same. Would be sweet if they made it like a special edition Chi memorial album and charged a bit more than usual but had it in really nice packaging with a decent booklet with stories about Chi with photo's, maybe with a t-shirt or something aswell.

That'd be a great idea, someone could probably suggest that to the band (in the future, not any time soon) if they were close enough.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: jaypayton on Apr 18, 2013, 05:11 AM
it will never be released...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on Apr 18, 2013, 05:35 AM
it will never be released...
Why not? the band has never said it wouldn't be released they've always just said it would be when the times is right , basically they said they were hoping they could release when Chi was conscious again.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DJR on Apr 18, 2013, 06:49 PM
IS Eros available in Demos? I saw a guy say on facebook say he was listening to the album of demos..... i take hes just chatting shit?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on Apr 18, 2013, 07:02 PM
IS Eros available in Demos? I saw a guy say on facebook say he was listening to the album of demos..... i take hes just chatting shit?

bullshit, nothing of EROS was released to the date.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: N0S3BLEED976 on Apr 18, 2013, 07:11 PM
I'd give my left ball for Eros... *sigh*
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DJR on Apr 18, 2013, 07:49 PM
IS Eros available in Demos? I saw a guy say on facebook say he was listening to the album of demos..... i take hes just chatting shit?

bullshit, nothing of EROS was released to the date.

No, i thought so...its just i thought id missed something
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on Apr 18, 2013, 07:55 PM
I'd give my left ball for Eros... *sigh*

and I'll help with my right one
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ignore the fashion on Apr 18, 2013, 09:56 PM
IS Eros available in Demos? I saw a guy say on facebook say he was listening to the album of demos..... i take hes just chatting shit?

bullshit, nothing of EROS was released to the date.

No, i thought so...its just i thought id missed something

If anything he probably had the bob ezrin demos or was just  talking bull shit.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sicario on Apr 22, 2013, 09:09 PM
Probably a dumb question. But was Eros actually completed? Like mastered and mixed? Or did they leave it in the demo phase?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Apr 22, 2013, 09:23 PM
All the instrumental parts are finished, but Chino was only about halfway through the vocals when Chi had the accident.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Sicario on Apr 22, 2013, 09:31 PM
So if they released it would he finish the vocals or would it just be "as is"?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Teknoman on Apr 22, 2013, 09:56 PM
So if they released it would he finish the vocals or would it just be "as is"?

I think it would be released "as is" because Deftones have said that their records are some kind of "time stamp" and thats one of the reasons every record sounds different and i dont think that Chino will be able to go back to that emotinal space/state and write/sing lyrics that matches "Eros' sound"... but who knows really.

I just hope that they release everything and not just the finished songs with vocals.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: N0S3BLEED976 on Apr 22, 2013, 11:13 PM
I know we'll only get something lame. I can feel it. Worst thing to me would be the band only releasing a handful of songs that "still fit their today's standpoint as a band", or even worse, rerecording the album and adjusting and tweaking it to their current style. I mean, I like KNY, but I would like Eros to be just as they used to describe it: dark, complex and heavy. Imagine an originally dark and moody song with new, "Entombed-like" vocals...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoolsys07 on Apr 22, 2013, 11:20 PM
They will definitely not do any re-recording. I know I wouldn't. However, I think that when/if they decide to release something, it might only be one or two tracks that they feel are the best or most complete or best represent the rest of the album. Then after an outcry from the fans saying they want the whole thing perhaps even later they'd release it as is. But who knows.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on Apr 22, 2013, 11:59 PM
I'm assuming Chino had written vocals to all the songs and they rehearsed them as a full band. Eros had been in development since May 2007, so it was worked on for a good year and a half. It might sound odd and disconnected if one half of Eros had 08-styled vocals, and the other half had Chino's newer singing style. However, it's Chino, so I think he could pull it off. I think.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinkmaggit69 on Apr 26, 2013, 03:33 AM
Can they finally release Eros, and give the profits to Chi's family?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: New Murderer on Apr 28, 2013, 09:50 PM
Can we get a petition going or something? Haha... Was going through all the old clips again just now and I'm so interested to hear it more than ever.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Apr 30, 2013, 12:16 AM
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Absolutely correct.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: cvthedrv on Apr 30, 2013, 02:00 AM
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Absolutely correct.

Xo?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on Apr 30, 2013, 04:33 AM
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Absolutely correct.

Xo?

DEFTONES - Summer Tour 2007, Chapter 13 - Portland, OR (06-07-07) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3D6ROEWDSQ#)

0:50
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: snw9 on Apr 30, 2013, 03:56 PM
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Absolutely correct.

Xo?

DEFTONES - Summer Tour 2007, Chapter 13 - Portland, OR (06-07-07) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3D6ROEWDSQ#)

0:50


Excellent find! Thank you very much.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on Apr 30, 2013, 06:38 PM
You're welcome, bud.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Apr 30, 2013, 08:57 PM
If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.

Fuck. Yeah.
Amen.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nicklav on Apr 30, 2013, 09:00 PM
Complete agree.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on Apr 30, 2013, 09:21 PM
i'm starting to understand the closer of the album now and it's just just amazing. there's this repetitive riff that chino sings to for half the song, no verse or chorus it's just keeps on going. then in the middle of the song, steph begins to play the riff backwards while chino continues to sing the same melody which is the wierdest thing ever. then the last minute it gets real heavy like in royal and chino begins to sing the melody backwards too, this while he sounds like an ancient evil witch, which is strange because at the same time it sounds very spacey and futuristic, love the effects on his voice. best ending of a record i've ever heard
If only....
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on May 01, 2013, 01:06 AM
When I first heard Melanie I thought ''What a cool song - I can't wait, in a few weeks/months I'll be listening to the studio version on my new copy of Eros.''
Little did I know :(
So sad.. same here :(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on May 01, 2013, 02:28 AM
If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.

Fuck. Yeah.
Amen.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on May 01, 2013, 09:12 AM
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Absolutely correct.
Xo?

DEFTONES - Summer Tour 2007, Chapter 13 - Portland, OR (06-07-07) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3D6ROEWDSQ#)

0:50


Excellent find! Thank you very much.

What the hell is Chino talking about when he says "Like "Kevin Sorbo" or "Lovers"..."? Is there an S/T outtake called "Kevin Sorbo"?  :P lol
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: kurtone on May 01, 2013, 09:39 AM
Kevin Sorbo was the working title for Lovers
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: laurapalmer on May 01, 2013, 09:42 AM
Oh and I'm apparently the only Deftones fan ever who couldn't give a shit about "Finger Of Death".
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pony_01 on May 01, 2013, 09:54 AM
Oh and I'm apparently the only Deftones fan ever who couldn't give a shit about "Finger Of Death".

where have you been
we've been moaning all the time since finger of deatch surfaced. it will ended up like bumble b, untitled 1, untitled 2, and maybe like melanie.
plus
its pre snw, definitely not on eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: laurapalmer on May 02, 2013, 01:30 AM
Oh and I'm apparently the only Deftones fan ever who couldn't give a shit about "Finger Of Death".

where have you been
we've been moaning all the time since finger of deatch surfaced. it will ended up like bumble b, untitled 1, untitled 2, and maybe like melanie.
plus
its pre snw, definitely not on eros.

Oh I'm aware. It just shocks me that it makes its way into every thread. It wasn't that great guys.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on May 02, 2013, 04:20 AM
Well, that new Kerrang article about Chi really makes it sound like Chino doesn't want to release Eros. Not sure what to think. Only time will tell, I guess.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: defTHE1s on May 02, 2013, 11:17 PM
Terry Date is Deftones.
Word.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: cvthedrv on May 02, 2013, 11:52 PM
Terry Date is Deftones.
Word.

TRUTH.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nicklav on May 03, 2013, 12:47 AM
Terry Date is Deftones.
Word.

TRUTH.

Absolutely.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 03, 2013, 02:24 AM
I don't think Terry was even that great when it came to pre recording stuff, he basically just let them fuck around for a couple of years until they had stuff they were ready to record and then he'd come in, Terry's done great work with Deftones but I think it was more because they were left to their own devices so ideas got fleshed out more naturally not Terry coming up with stuff.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nicklav on May 03, 2013, 02:36 AM
I don't think Terry was even that great when it came to pre recording stuff, he basically just let them fuck around for a couple of years until they had stuff they were ready to record and then he'd come in, Terry's done great work with Deftones but I think it was more because they were left to their own devices so ideas got fleshed out more naturally not Terry coming up with stuff.

Maybe that's what him so great, letting the band flesh out their ideas and then capturing the best parts. I much prefer his records over Nick's.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 03, 2013, 02:43 AM
Yeah I lean towards his aswell but I don't think it's because of him, I think it's because all the stuff they were going through personally back then made the music raw and emotional.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: nicklav on May 03, 2013, 02:45 AM
That's a good point.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 03, 2013, 02:49 AM
It'll be interesting to see if they make a darker record with Nick next time for some reason I think this Chi thing is going to produce some rawer music.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on May 03, 2013, 04:49 AM
I prefer Terry over Nick for various reasons.
Terry let the band take their time, work at their own pace and flesh the songs out the way they wanted them. It feels like Nick gets a bit over involved and shapes how the band views their songwriting too much. The band calls it a "good work ethic" and much more "productive", I call it faster and a bit less thought out.
Also Terry got guitar and drum tones a million times better sounding than Nick. Guitars sounded HUGE, vocals had effects but didn't rely on them so heavily, drums were thick with a nice snappy snare and the way he mic'd the kit seemed to accentuate Abe's hard hitting. Also he kept Frank more subtle in the mix and created soundscapes instead of a synth player. Also Chi was actually in the mix where I find Nick keeps Sergio a bit low a lot of the time.
That's just how I feel. Terry fit the bands sound and helped them sound unique. Not like "rock radio" Deftones who can meet a deadline but leave some things to be desired.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Cullision on May 03, 2013, 04:57 AM
How is the relationship with Terry Date now? They are still friends right?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hank on May 03, 2013, 05:04 AM
I prefer Terry over Nick for various reasons.
Terry let the band take their time, work at their own pace and flesh the songs out the way they wanted them. It feels like Nick gets a bit over involved and shapes how the band views their songwriting too much. The band calls it a "good work ethic" and much more "productive", I call it faster and a bit less thought out.
Also Terry got guitar and drum tones a million times better sounding than Nick. Guitars sounded HUGE, vocals had effects but didn't rely on them so heavily, drums were thick with a nice snappy snare and the way he mic'd the kit seemed to accentuate Abe's hard hitting. Also he kept Frank more subtle in the mix and created soundscapes instead of a synth player. Also Chi was actually in the mix where I find Nick keeps Sergio a bit low a lot of the time.
That's just how I feel. Terry fit the bands sound and helped them sound unique. Not like "rock radio" Deftones who can meet a deadline but leave some things to be desired.

Great points. Although I wouldn't say Rick keeps Sergio "low" a lot of the time . Sergio really shines on KNY( the closer is sick and he really stands out throughout the whole album) and most of the songs on DE.

I do prefer the sound Terry helped them make on the albums he worked on.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 03, 2013, 05:10 AM
Yeah he definitely records them better, but I would like to know if Nick actually changes songs or whether he gets them to the same point they would of eventually got to themselves faster, I personally feel the result would be the same with Terry, Nick seems to get blamed for making them make softer music but really it was the effect of Chi's accident that made them be more positive they have all said it felt stupid complaining about stuff when Chi wasn't able to do the stuff they take for granted, "rock radio" is just a term your using because it's more positive, the musicianship is still there the guitar playing itself has stepped up a whole lot since DE. lyrically and sonically it's better than any real made for radio songs. It's hard to explain but I think the reason people call this commercial is because it's a happier record and it's hard to seem sincere when singing happy stuff it's not like angry music where you just yell or sad music where you sing quietly and if you're not doing that people especially metal fans seem to think it's insincere or commercial.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Hank on May 03, 2013, 05:33 AM
I agree.

I highly doubt Nick changes anything as far as the way they want their work to sound.

If I recall Chino had problems with Bob Ezrin because of a situation that was maybe like that.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 03, 2013, 05:56 AM
They talked about the Bob thing recently and it was mostly just the fact they did things completely different to him, basically Bob was clinical and expected everyone to come and work like a 9-5 job because he is used to running a tight ship, he was shocked at how Chino didn't come in with lyrics he basically expected to them to sit there and write on cue rather than the more natural way they flesh out ideas where they just hang out and freestyle jam, they also said he was an amazing musician and that he could pick up any of their instruments and play it better than them, because of this and his musical knowledge he could write almost systematically and just didn't get how the guys would just sort of feel stuff out to write a song.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Electron§ on May 03, 2013, 10:25 AM
They talked about the Bob thing recently and it was mostly just the fact they did things completely different to him, basically Bob was clinical and expected everyone to come and work like a 9-5 job because he is used to running a tight ship, he was shocked at how Chino didn't come in with lyrics he basically expected to them to sit there and write on cue rather than the more natural way they flesh out ideas where they just hang out and freestyle jam, they also said he was an amazing musician and that he could pick up any of their instruments and play it better than them, because of this and his musical knowledge he could write almost systematically and just didn't get how the guys would just sort of feel stuff out to write a song.

This sounds familiar but idk where I heard it.

Source?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 03, 2013, 10:32 AM
I can't exactly but it was fairly recent maybe that one from DE era that was only published the other day?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on May 08, 2013, 07:42 AM
"I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty." - Chi on Eros

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1589683/gojira-flesh-out-new-lp-metal-file.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1589683/gojira-flesh-out-new-lp-metal-file.jhtml)
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: luisch on May 08, 2013, 08:01 AM
"I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty." - Chi on Eros

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1589683/gojira-flesh-out-new-lp-metal-file.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1589683/gojira-flesh-out-new-lp-metal-file.jhtml)

:(
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Danny Keyes on May 11, 2013, 05:45 AM
DEFTONES LOST ALBUM WITH CHI TO BE RELEASED, KOI NO YOKAN GOLDEN GODS WORTHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UvDp1oRmjY#ws)


oh snap!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 11, 2013, 06:07 AM
Fuck yes, Chino was the one holding off from what Stephens said so if he thinks it's near the time it will be.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on May 11, 2013, 06:34 AM
Great news. I'm very glad. It's the right decision.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Bza々 on May 11, 2013, 07:07 AM
EROS is going to assrape KNY and DE. An entire record of deftones prior to Chi's accident; fuck yes.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SwerveCityUSA on May 11, 2013, 07:18 AM
Eros is going to be such a beautiful amazing album. Stephen said the album was 75% done, 100% musically (most important) and 50% vocals, just waiting for Chino. Which is a perfect scenario because if Chi and the band did all they're parts together it's a genuine classic Deftones lineup record and the lyrics and melodies always come last anyway, so Chino please take your time and make it classical like always!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Danny Keyes on May 11, 2013, 07:20 AM
i bet my penis that im sure 98% of you guys are going to bash the album once its out.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: people are people on May 11, 2013, 07:21 AM
amazing, Bza々its you in the picture?


Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: people are people on May 11, 2013, 07:22 AM
i bet my penis that im sure 98% of you guys are going to bash the album once its out.

no way 99%
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 11, 2013, 07:24 AM
I think Chino needs to get on those vocals pretty quick, it may seem stupid but at the moment they're pretty down and twisted emotionally like when Eros was initially made so in order for him to sort of make that music again he needs to be in that state of mind could also be a therapeutic way of dealing with Chi's death.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SwerveCityUSA on May 11, 2013, 07:31 AM
i bet my penis that im sure 98% of you guys are going to bash the album once its out.

True they always will but deep down they will love it, and they have to says 10 bucks they spent.

I think Chino needs to get on those vocals pretty quick, it may seem stupid but at the moment they're pretty down and twisted emotionally like when Eros was initially made so in order for him to sort of make that music again he needs to be in that state of mind could also be a therapeutic way of dealing with Chi's death.

Ya I agree on it being a therapy and I think that alone will make it something special, but I don't care how long it takes, he's busy, plus they just put out their 2 strongest pieces of work since that era anyway and done loads of touring and so forth. they're playing Ozzfest as we speak, so there is a lot of work to do.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 11, 2013, 07:44 AM
Yeah I know they would hold on to it for a while to release it but for the cohesiveness it would be good to get on it quick. Either way I'm sure I'll love it I like all aspects of Deftones even the more polished new stuff but I have a special soft spot for the darker stuff like Self Titled.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SwerveCityUSA on May 11, 2013, 07:50 AM
Yeah I know they would hold on to it for a while to release it but for the cohesiveness it would be good to get on it quick. Either way I'm sure I'll love it I like all aspects of Deftones even the more polished new stuff but I have a special soft spot for the darker stuff like Self Titled.

Nice I just put that album on. And to be honest all of they're albums have been my favorite at some point, I don't close my mind on one sound. Self Titled is a very nice record, 10/10 easy.

I bet Eros will be out in spring 2014 for sure.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: play on May 11, 2013, 08:59 AM
I really doubt chino will finish vocals on it.

I would way prefer them to leave it unfinished and release it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: MaximumPezcore on May 11, 2013, 09:13 AM
I'd rather Chino finish his vocals on the album. Given Chi's death, I feel like he's going to let it all out and have this be the most emotionally angry and depressing Deftones album yet, which will undoubtedly turn out to be completely fucking beautiful in an emotionally fucked kind of way.

Also, I'm new here. Hi guys!
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jesus2Chino on May 11, 2013, 09:50 AM
I'm very excited about the prospect, but I will keep my hopes well under control. He didn't say it will absolutely be released, and there's no telling how the album will be handled by the band. Time will tell, but it's definitely good news that it's at least being considered. Good or bad, pending the emergence of details on an absolute release, this will be the most anticipated Deftones release for me since Self-Titled.

Much respect,
-Matt
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 11, 2013, 09:54 AM
I'd be happy either way but I'm guessing they'll finish it , it just seems if they release it they will want to release it how it was meant to be heard as a complete piece. I have complete faith in Chino to do it justice I know he'll do it right for Chi.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on May 11, 2013, 04:28 PM
I'll believe it when I see/hear it. It's the right time but that's all up to the band and the powers that be.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 11, 2013, 04:36 PM
I'll believe it when I see/hear it. It's the right time but that's all up to the band and the powers that be.
Yeah i'm not expecting it anytime soon but it's just good to know Chino's still wants it to be released, part of me thought he might just go the time will never be right now that Chi's and that it would never be released.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: endstand on May 11, 2013, 05:04 PM
I'd rather Chino finish his vocals on the album. Given Chi's death, I feel like he's going to let it all out and have this be the most emotionally angry and depressing Deftones album yet, which will undoubtedly turn out to be completely fucking beautiful in an emotionally fucked kind of way.

Also, I'm new here. Hi guys!

I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like Chino doesn't feel very touched by Chi's death; I don't know about the others. There were few interviews where Chino, asked about Chi's condition, sounded very lame. He mentioned that he hadn't visit Chi for one year. If they were so great friends, how can you explain that Chino is not visiting Chi? Band often mention that they're like a family, but that just doesn't mix good with not visiting a friend who is in need of support. How can you not find enough time during whole year to visit a friend?

And there was this video interview posted somewhere where band is asked about Eros, and Steph pointed out in not friendly manner that Chino is the one responsible for all the situation with Eros.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on May 11, 2013, 05:07 PM
I'd rather Chino finish his vocals on the album. Given Chi's death, I feel like he's going to let it all out and have this be the most emotionally angry and depressing Deftones album yet, which will undoubtedly turn out to be completely fucking beautiful in an emotionally fucked kind of way.

Also, I'm new here. Hi guys!

I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like Chino doesn't feel very touched by Chi's death; I don't know about the others. There were few interviews where Chino, asked about Chi's condition, sounded very lame. He mentioned that he hadn't visit Chi for one year. If they were so great friends, how can you explain that Chino is not visiting Chi? Band often mention that they're like a family, but that just doesn't mix good with not visiting a friend who is in need of support. How can you not find enough time during whole year to visit a friend?

because his friend was a fucking plant dude, everybody copes with it differently. you are in no position to say any of this
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: endstand on May 11, 2013, 05:16 PM
I'm curious that others think about it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 11, 2013, 05:16 PM
No I don't think that's it I saw an interview where Chino said they as a group hadn't seen him in a year, but that doesn't mean individually. also those visits are extremely tough for the people that really care having had family members in a similar situation as Chi it kills you every you see them as just a shadow of their former self and it's especially tough because there's nothing you can do at all, it really fucks you up mentally you start thinking do they recognise me? do they understand what I'm saying at all? or is there nothing inside? it's extremely painful to see someone you care about like that, you really need to work yourself up to do one of those visits otherwise you'll just breakdown. Plus the pain is obvious you can see it in the couple of interviews they've done since his passing Chino will be happy and smiling but as soon as Chi has been mentioned Chino's face drops and goes super quiet and just sits silently looking really somber for the rest of the interview.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: N0S3BLEED976 on May 11, 2013, 05:42 PM
They're just trying to stay positive and strong, especially when they are in front of their fans and the public in general. It's the best therapy they can possibly get, I guess. I believe the band probably got very emotional about it several times when they were among themselves.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: iceache on May 11, 2013, 06:55 PM
I doubt we'll see it this year... and we certainly wont hear it completed. It'll be as is, right now.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: play on May 12, 2013, 12:22 AM
I'd rather Chino finish his vocals on the album. Given Chi's death, I feel like he's going to let it all out and have this be the most emotionally angry and depressing Deftones album yet, which will undoubtedly turn out to be completely fucking beautiful in an emotionally fucked kind of way.

Also, I'm new here. Hi guys!

I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like Chino doesn't feel very touched by Chi's death; I don't know about the others. There were few interviews where Chino, asked about Chi's condition, sounded very lame. He mentioned that he hadn't visit Chi for one year. If they were so great friends, how can you explain that Chino is not visiting Chi? Band often mention that they're like a family, but that just doesn't mix good with not visiting a friend who is in need of support. How can you not find enough time during whole year to visit a friend?

And there was this video interview posted somewhere where band is asked about Eros, and Steph pointed out in not friendly manner that Chino is the one responsible for all the situation with Eros.
Jesus christ, fuck this.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Bza々 on May 12, 2013, 01:35 AM
amazing, Bza々its you in the picture?

Ya totally bro, I'm Anne Frank 2.0 all day son.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Bza々 on May 12, 2013, 01:38 AM
I think Chino needs to get on those vocals pretty quick, it may seem stupid but at the moment they're pretty down and twisted emotionally like when Eros was initially made so in order for him to sort of make that music again he needs to be in that state of mind could also be a therapeutic way of dealing with Chi's death.

Fuck that. He isn't the same person he was then. He'll just fuck it up with this new style of his. Release it as is.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: ignore the fashion on May 12, 2013, 02:07 AM
Just my opinion on this new information regarding Eros.

I don't mean to be an asshole or anything just stating my opinion here.

I think SO many people here on this board will probably end up totally bashing Eros, if it is released, simply because it isn't ever going to be able to live up to the way THEY expect it to sound. They've hyped it up so much that it will never be able to sound as good as they are expecting or hoped it would. If it does and they actually do like it I will be very surprised to say the least.

We really have nothing to really judge Eros on except for maybe a song they played live once or twice and maybe a few little snippets from YouTube.

I would be happy to just hear it as is or even if they choose to go back and finish what wasn't done.

Now this is just my opinion as well, but I feel like when I band goes and starts working on new music, they play and make music THEY like. They just have hopes that the fans will like it as much as they do.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Inkblades on May 12, 2013, 02:41 AM
I'd rather Chino finish his vocals on the album. Given Chi's death, I feel like he's going to let it all out and have this be the most emotionally angry and depressing Deftones album yet, which will undoubtedly turn out to be completely fucking beautiful in an emotionally fucked kind of way.

Also, I'm new here. Hi guys!

I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like Chino doesn't feel very touched by Chi's death; I don't know about the others. There were few interviews where Chino, asked about Chi's condition, sounded very lame. He mentioned that he hadn't visit Chi for one year. If they were so great friends, how can you explain that Chino is not visiting Chi? Band often mention that they're like a family, but that just doesn't mix good with not visiting a friend who is in need of support. How can you not find enough time during whole year to visit a friend?

And there was this video interview posted somewhere where band is asked about Eros, and Steph pointed out in not friendly manner that Chino is the one responsible for all the situation with Eros.

I'm 100% positive that you have no clue what you are talking about.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: only pieces remain on May 12, 2013, 03:35 AM
I think Chino needs to get on those vocals pretty quick, it may seem stupid but at the moment they're pretty down and twisted emotionally like when Eros was initially made so in order for him to sort of make that music again he needs to be in that state of mind could also be a therapeutic way of dealing with Chi's death.

Fuck that. He isn't the same person he was then. He'll just fuck it up with this new style of his. Release it as is.

this times 1,000,000. release it without ANYTHING else done to it. if half the tracks are instrumental, oh well.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deffur on May 12, 2013, 07:45 PM

http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/05/12/deftones-planning-to-release-never-before-heard-eros-album/

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Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: digital bath on May 12, 2013, 08:16 PM

http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/05/12/deftones-planning-to-release-never-before-heard-eros-album/ (http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/05/12/deftones-planning-to-release-never-before-heard-eros-album/)

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Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on May 12, 2013, 10:16 PM
Everyone seems to think chino saying "now might be the right time" means its coming out soon. You still gotta take into account the label and management and promotion. It's not as easy as just releasing it. Also they have to decide if they wanna finish it. It'll still be a while if we ever hear it. Stop busting a nut over nothing.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: people are people on May 13, 2013, 12:44 AM

http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/05/12/deftones-planning-to-release-never-before-heard-eros-album/ (http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/05/12/deftones-planning-to-release-never-before-heard-eros-album/)


thanks man
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: deftoolsys07 on May 13, 2013, 06:19 AM
I don't think anyone's really going to be reviewing the album too seriously if it does get released. It might not even be finished, vocally anyway, when they release it. So for anyone to get bummed about how it's not as good as they expect would be weird. It's more of a thing for Chi at this point than about the music itself, it's just going to be a snapshot of that period. Chino even said it's not the best stuff I believe, but it's whatever. Who cares??

In other words, I expect this to be like the SNW demos, as far as the hype about it and how serious anyone takes it, but it will be officially released and more polished up than the demos obviously...
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SwerveCityUSA on May 13, 2013, 07:14 AM
you all are wrong and a bunch of bummers
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Jerry_Curls on May 13, 2013, 09:04 AM
Everyone seems to think chino saying "now might be the right time" means its coming out soon. You still gotta take into account the label and management and promotion. It's not as easy as just releasing it. Also they have to decide if they wanna finish it. It'll still be a while if we ever hear it. Stop busting a nut over nothing.

To have something to talk about?
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DeftonesNZ on May 13, 2013, 09:24 AM
Also if you actually look at the comments no one is expecting it soon it's just the fact Chino hasn't decided to permanently shelve it now that Chi's gone.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Penicks on May 13, 2013, 05:47 PM
you all are wrong and a bunch of bummers

please leave
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Bifrost on May 13, 2013, 05:57 PM
Just my opinion on this new information regarding Eros.

I don't mean to be an asshole or anything just stating my opinion here.

I think SO many people here on this board will probably end up totally bashing Eros, if it is released, simply because it isn't ever going to be able to live up to the way THEY expect it to sound. They've hyped it up so much that it will never be able to sound as good as they are expecting or hoped it would. If it does and they actually do like it I will be very surprised to say the least.

We really have nothing to really judge Eros on except for maybe a song they played live once or twice and maybe a few little snippets from YouTube.

I would be happy to just hear it as is or even if they choose to go back and finish what wasn't done.

Now this is just my opinion as well, but I feel like when I band goes and starts working on new music, they play and make music THEY like. They just have hopes that the fans will like it as much as they do.

I agree, I think its cool they are going to release it and I look forward to it but I have a feeling its not gonna be as great as a lot of people think on here

lyrically its gonna be interesting, if Chino is going to have to write new lyrics for it or if they were completed (the vocals) already

I wonder how long its gonna take for them to get it out and if they will treat like a normal album promo and a tour or if they will just release it as a tribute to Chi
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: pinata89 on May 13, 2013, 06:40 PM
Just my opinion on this new information regarding Eros.

I don't mean to be an asshole or anything just stating my opinion here.

I think SO many people here on this board will probably end up totally bashing Eros, if it is released, simply because it isn't ever going to be able to live up to the way THEY expect it to sound. They've hyped it up so much that it will never be able to sound as good as they are expecting or hoped it would. If it does and they actually do like it I will be very surprised to say the least.

We really have nothing to really judge Eros on except for maybe a song they played live once or twice and maybe a few little snippets from YouTube.

I would be happy to just hear it as is or even if they choose to go back and finish what wasn't done.

Now this is just my opinion as well, but I feel like when I band goes and starts working on new music, they play and make music THEY like. They just have hopes that the fans will like it as much as they do.

I agree, I think its cool they are going to release it and I look forward to it but I have a feeling its not gonna be as great as a lot of people think on here

lyrically its gonna be interesting, if Chino is going to have to write new lyrics for it or if they were completed (the vocals) already

I wonder how long its gonna take for them to get it out and if they will treat like a normal album promo and a tour or if they will just release it as a tribute to Chi

I highly doubt they will tour in support of the release, and honestly I wouldn't expect them to.  I mean, they abandoned the album to do Diamond Eyes for a reason.  It's pretty obvious that the whole era is a sore subject for them.  I suppose we should feel fortunate that they are even considering a release at all.

With that said, I am super pumped about hearing it.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: endstand on May 13, 2013, 08:12 PM
Just my opinion on this new information regarding Eros.

I don't mean to be an asshole or anything just stating my opinion here.

I think SO many people here on this board will probably end up totally bashing Eros, if it is released, simply because it isn't ever going to be able to live up to the way THEY expect it to sound. They've hyped it up so much that it will never be able to sound as good as they are expecting or hoped it would. If it does and they actually do like it I will be very surprised to say the least.

We really have nothing to really judge Eros on except for maybe a song they played live once or twice and maybe a few little snippets from YouTube.

I would be happy to just hear it as is or even if they choose to go back and finish what wasn't done.

Now this is just my opinion as well, but I feel like when I band goes and starts working on new music, they play and make music THEY like. They just have hopes that the fans will like it as much as they do.

I agree, I think its cool they are going to release it and I look forward to it but I have a feeling its not gonna be as great as a lot of people think on here

lyrically its gonna be interesting, if Chino is going to have to write new lyrics for it or if they were completed (the vocals) already

I wonder how long its gonna take for them to get it out and if they will treat like a normal album promo and a tour or if they will just release it as a tribute to Chi

I hope they're not going to rewrite lyrics, because new lyrics may have that happy-go-lucky feel.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: Bifrost on May 13, 2013, 10:36 PM
I hope they wouldnt re-write any lyrics too but I am not sure Chino ever finished the vox for eros so he may need to write some
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: RoyBiggins on May 13, 2013, 10:47 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT   Understand that know that......Big ROY out
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 01:00 AM
you all are wrong and a bunch of bummers

please leave

that's what i'm saying to you.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: sing blue silver on May 14, 2013, 02:31 AM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT   Understand that know that......Big ROY out

Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 08:16 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT   Understand that know that......Big ROY out

Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.

Man, you're a downer.

anyway.

I just read that touching article of Chi's passing and Chino saying the album just wasn't good. I can dig that, but its ok, they haven't put out anything not good before, so they deserve a mistake. I almost think they should just take all the good out of it and make something new.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: only pieces remain on May 14, 2013, 10:42 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT   Understand that know that......Big ROY out

Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.

Man, you're a downer.

anyway.

I just read that touching article of Chi's passing and Chino saying the album just wasn't good. I can dig that, but its ok, they haven't put out anything not good before, so they deserve a mistake. I almost think they should just take all the good out of it and make something new.

no
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DJR on May 14, 2013, 11:26 PM
I wouldn't want anything new or re-thought....i like Chino's lyrics and mood when he was fat
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 11:33 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT   Understand that know that......Big ROY out

Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.

Man, you're a downer.

anyway.

I just read that touching article of Chi's passing and Chino saying the album just wasn't good. I can dig that, but its ok, they haven't put out anything not good before, so they deserve a mistake. I almost think they should just take all the good out of it and make something new.

no

Add a little intellect.

I wouldn't want anything new or re-thought....i like Chino's lyrics and mood when he was fat

When, Saturday Night Wrist era?

Just like that article said, SNW was the worst album, it was for me 2. It was dark and cold, which seems it would have done well with the opinions I see on this board. I still like all the songs, except for pink cellphone, I thought it was pretentious.

And you don't want anything new? ya I almost wonder how any original band survives because that sentiment seems to reign supreme. Even when I look at very popular bands like Metallica, I go wow, The amount of people that actually love there music and can sit through the Entire Justice album and enjoy every lick has still got to be very, very few. Most likely musicians themselves.
Title: Re: The Eros thread.
Post by: DJR on May 14, 2013, 11:41 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT   Understand that know that......Big ROY out

Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.

Man, you're a downer.

anyway.

I just read that touching art