In 2008, the band was writing/recording an album with their long-time friend and producer Terry Date. The album would eventually be titled "Eros", and was tentatively set for release on January 2009 (source: Kerrang!). During the sessions, bassist Chi Cheng (RIP) had written on a blog post that one of the songs, called "Trempest", featured the oldschool "fuck you I hope you die" kind of aggression found on earlier Deftones music.
In November 2008, after playing a couple of shows, including two where they played "Melanie" (suspected to appear on "Eros"), Chi had a car crash without wearing a seatbelt. The accident put him in a coma which, despite its evolution and much positive speculation and care, led to his death in 2013, following several infections and one last pneumonia.
Since the accident in 2008, "Eros" was shelved and never touched again. Since then, the band has been asked only too many times what would happen with "Eros", even while promoting the records that followed.
For the latest, in 2020, Chino said it was "halfway done with a lot of vocals missing", Abe said it was halfway finished and they were considering releasing the finished tracks as an EP, Stephen said it was "instrumentally complete".
Below you can find all the material that was made available in relation to the album. Before that, you can watch an almost-complete introduction to the album, made by YouTube user Lie Likes Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAFWxf5Xo50
Artwork used on their website during the album process, suspected to be the actual artwork
(https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/120466397_3420616697997858_4504465185372578527_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=_9SmYVa_ESEAX8r-ntm&_nc_ht=scontent-amt2-1.xx&oh=c7451a6c910f89a4b81d55cc776d807d&oe=5F97A1FF)
In-studio videos, posted on deftones.com as a promotion move
Deftones eros in Studio 2008 clip 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FevOsH6bQ9w#)
Deftines eros in studio 2008 Clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vtD81rcMI#)
Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk#)
Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn_OT-Jh4Y#)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyH1v7RF5H4
On January 14, 2008, Chino posted a demo called "You've Seen The Butcher" on Deftones' MySpace. The demo has nothing to do with "You've Seen the Butcher" on "Diamond Eyes"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWU7snh5vCw
Later in 2008, the band played "Melanie" live twice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v1vijErZvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Qo6EK3AaI
On April 13, 2014 (I think, one year after Chi's death), Chino leaked "Smile" on YouTube. This is a reupload of his original upload, which featured the lyrics to the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB0lGKJXFMg
In 2015, a YouTube channel called JG Productions leaked a studio video of the Eros sessions, containing a full audio instrumental rehearsal of one of the songs they were working on at the time. Fans have referred to it as "Dallas" as this song name was in the tentative song titles the band had come up with, however the band never confirmed or denied this song being called "Dallas", it's speculation. This is a reupload
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKcK0-L_AbA
Here is an extended and EQ'd version of "Dallas", made and provided by YouTube user youwouldknow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpfu3NfKNHA
In 2019, the band played "Smile" live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRKWcjka7Bw
In 2020, Abe announced the band considered releasing some "Eros" tracks as an EP, while Stephen said it was "instrumentally complete" and Chino said it was "halfway done with lots of vocals missing".
it's not too much, but if I sticky it I'll lock the other Eros thread and you may keep the discussion in this thread instead.
EDIT: N/m.
Just stickied it (too I suppose?)
EDIT: add;
While I agree with not forgetting about 'Eros' and the creation of this topic with everything about it in it, I wouldn't say that, since everyone's about 'Diamond Eyes' it will be forgotten or that no-one gives a crap about 'Eros'.
Quote from: pissedandpierced on Oct 11, 2007, 08:54 PM
A friend of mine in Sacramento messaged me the following information regarding the new album, this is what he has heard about it:
"The new album will have longer songs, think 6 minutes or more, guitar solos, even more synth/keys/fx from Frank, lyrically will be more straightforward rather than cryptic, there will be more complex song structures, more guitar from chino, and faster drums (more double bass). Chi got a 6 string bass he's using on most songs and a fretless 5 string. Steph is using a new custom 8 string baritone guitar. Chino is using a lot of FX on his guitar parts so it doesn't even really sound like guitar that much.
do you loooove it?
where's the fake studio clip of Chino sleeping, the waking up for a sec to eat pizza before nodding back off. that was hilarious
and i do wanna hear EROS, but it's not gonna happen for a long ass time i'm afraid. there was a studio pic that look like Stef was finger tapping, that got my attention, along with the music at the start of each clip. Chino only finished half the vocals, so he won't finish those until after all their touring for DE if we're lucky, which could be close to 2 years, but he likes to chill and live a normal life after tour so he might not get to the vocals even then, and if chi's not awake they might just start another album with sergio. basically, i'm not gonna bother worrying about EROS, when i believe it at leasr 3 years away from release, if ever
i'm just really impressed they made 2 records as quick as they did, especially DE, they started it in june 09 right? and we already have it in well under a year, and it's a great album. badass. they should continue doing things that way
the thing is that even if Chi has a full recovery and rejoins the band (as we all hope he does), there's no saying he would want to go back to this material. they may very well all agree to start over on something completely new with him back. the Eros material might bring back too much memories of the time of the accident or something.
I'm hopeful that we'll get a couple of the Eros songs as b-sides or bonus tracks to future releases, but that's about it.
Quote from: Martin on Mar 23, 2010, 12:05 PM
I wouldn't say that, since everyone's about 'Diamond Eyes' it will be forgotten or that no-one gives a crap about 'Eros'.
Agreed, but Jacob said he couldn't believe that people were still talking about Eros now that we have Diamond Eyes, that deftones fans are never satisfied, etc.
my guess is if they decide to never finish it they'll leak it. so it'd be like the ezrin demos
Quote from: Jacob on Mar 23, 2010, 01:47 PM
the thing is that even if Chi has a full recovery and rejoins the band (as we all hope he does), there's no saying he would want to go back to this material. they may very well all agree to start over on something completely new with him back. the Eros material might bring back too much memories of the time of the accident or something.
I'm hopeful that we'll get a couple of the Eros songs as b-sides or bonus tracks to future releases, but that's about it.
this..
I wanna hear Eros, but only because it's unheard Deftones stuff, so of course. I'm satisfied with Diamond Eyes too much to be craving new music already. I get the feeling I wont like Eros as much though. I like the whole dark/weird kind of thing, but I'm not so much into the heavier or more agressive stuff. I like it more than I used to, but still not all that much. So I'd probably only like about half the songs on it if that were the case. I think it'll be quite a long wait for Eros though.
Why does Chino compare every new album to white pony? Lol
Quote from: MxKnife on Mar 23, 2010, 03:31 PM
Why does Chino compare every new album to white pony? Lol
1.3 million copies sold in the us only. thats why. its like "buy our new record when it drops - it is as good as the one we sold the most of". he just wants anotehr cash cow
I'd love to hear Eros one day. But I'd like them to wait until Chi wakes up, which I'm sure they will. But for now Im kicking it pretty hard with Diamond Eyes. Eros isn't even finished....
He doesn't even get that much money from physical sales though.
Anyways if he wanted to sell records he should say it reminds him of nickelback or U2. They'll be fuckin huge then.
to be honest, i really don't even want to think about Eros right now, only because if i think about it then i will be waiting a long time. i'd rather just focus on what they are doing now and i am happy with it.
i agree with Jacob that Eros is a long way away and that maybe Chi won't want to go back to it after he makes a full recovery. i know through my own experience with working on material before an illness, that i couldn't go back to it after i got better. it was just too much.
Quote from: MxKnife on Mar 23, 2010, 03:51 PM
He doesn't even get that much money from physical sales though.
Anyways if he wanted to sell records he should say it reminds him of nickelback or U2. They'll be fuckin huge then.
hehe right.. "hey our next album sound like lady ga ga, its good man, buy it!" anyway, it would be a stupid move to say it sounds like their most unsuccelful album like snw which sold like 4 copies. just saying
Quote from: MxKnife on Mar 23, 2010, 03:31 PM
Why does Chino compare every new album to white pony? Lol
Because White Pony is and will always be his favorite work. Even though he says that about every record he's written.
Quote from: janie13 on Mar 23, 2010, 03:52 PM
to be honest, i really don't even want to think about Eros right now, only because if i think about it then i will be waiting a long time. i'd rather just focus on what they are doing now and i am happy with it.
i agree with Jacob that Eros is a long way away and that maybe Chi won't want to go back to it after he makes a full recovery. i know through my own experience with working on material before an illness, that i couldn't go back to it after i got better. it was just too much.
everyone wants something to look forward to.. and eros will get very mysterious... like an unfound treasure everybody wants...
"the chase is better than the catch" sort of
Lol i'm just saying. Have the ignorant masses buy it cuz they think it sounds like some popular artist and BAM! It's Deftones' own sound
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 23, 2010, 03:58 PM
Quote from: janie13 on Mar 23, 2010, 03:52 PM
to be honest, i really don't even want to think about Eros right now, only because if i think about it then i will be waiting a long time. i'd rather just focus on what they are doing now and i am happy with it.
i agree with Jacob that Eros is a long way away and that maybe Chi won't want to go back to it after he makes a full recovery. i know through my own experience with working on material before an illness, that i couldn't go back to it after i got better. it was just too much.
everyone wants something to look forward to.. and eros will get very mysterious... like an unfound treasure everybody wants...
"the chase is better than the catch" sort of
That's cute and I very much agree, however, personally, if I think about it, I'm gonna get a headache. But that's just me.
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 03:57 PM
Quote from: MxKnife on Mar 23, 2010, 03:31 PM
Why does Chino compare every new album to white pony? Lol
Because White Pony is and will always be his favorite work. Even though he says that about every record he's written.
That's just the thing. That would make sense but Chino said not too long ago that Around the Fur was his favourite, did he not?
Quote from: bewareofrats on Mar 23, 2010, 04:22 PM
That's just the thing. That would make sense but Chino said not too long ago that Around the Fur was his favourite, did he not?
He did. But I still think that White Pony REALLY is THE favorite of Mr. Moreno. Of course I'm not in Chino's head and can't be sure of that. But that's what I feel.
he usually says ATF is his fav, but he talks about wp a bit more. i think he's about equally proud of those 2. those 2 are his babies. WP was his vision, and a massively bold step, he's gotta be really proud of it
if SNW and Diamond Eyes were leaked, Eros is bound to slip pretty soon boys.
"Mock my words"
Yeah but those two were released and are being released. Eros hasn't been pressed and shipped out to stations or magazines for promotion.
Quote from: Amoe38 on Mar 23, 2010, 04:40 PM
if SNW and Diamond Eyes were leaked, Eros is bound to slip pretty soon boys.
"Mock my words"
Ok, I'll mock your words. Your words suck ;)
You were looking for "mark my words"
I personally dont think were going to EVER hear Eros. The deftones are set to hit the road for the next couple of years in support of DE. The Eros sessions are unfinished and the release of that album was slated for a Summer 2009 release and the recording process on THAT album stopped in November when Chi's accident occured. I know for a fact the boys were going to work on up untill the holidays had this tragedy not occured and finished up by spring to have the record out by early summer. When Chi wakes up which no one knows when that will be and the Deftones finish thier world tour for this record I doubt they will want to work on or release material from 2-3 years ago. They will want to work on something new and FRESH with or without Chi. No one knows how chi will recover from his minimally concious state. who knows if he will ever be able to play again I pray for a full recovery for him but EROS you can forget about.
I'm quite sure i remember They said eros is complete. Its mixed and mastered.
Quote from: MxKnife on Mar 23, 2010, 08:28 PM
I'm quite sure i remember They said eros is complete. Its mixed and mastered.
Quite sure of that, too. I could be wrong, though.
they started mixing it in september.
Chino said Eros was being mixed on Myspace (Before Chi's accident) but wasn't it also stated somewhere that he was only halfway done with the vocals?
he said that probably on noisecreep interview.
just watched all the clips in the first post and I can't believe I've missed those before. the drums of the song in the studio clips is very similar to Digital Bath, almost the exact same thing. that's pretty cool. overall, it does indeed sound like this would be a much heavier, darker and experimental album. it would be nice to hear.
but fuck me, I'm in love with DE :)
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 04:30 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Mar 23, 2010, 04:22 PM
That's just the thing. That would make sense but Chino said not too long ago that Around the Fur was his favourite, did he not?
He did. But I still think that White Pony REALLY is THE favorite of Mr. Moreno. Of course I'm not in Chino's head and can't be sure of that. But that's what I feel.
he said tha S/T was his favorite, S/T and ATF
and i wanna hear Eros.
I know that sooner or later we're goin to hear some material or the full album.
Yes i want to hear eros too!!Eros Eros Eros
Im in love with Eros.
leaked:
Dedicado para los que estan enamorados - Eros Ramazotti (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcU0gVsqlXQ#)
Quote from: defTHE1s on Mar 24, 2010, 04:01 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 04:30 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Mar 23, 2010, 04:22 PM
That's just the thing. That would make sense but Chino said not too long ago that Around the Fur was his favourite, did he not?
He did. But I still think that White Pony REALLY is THE favorite of Mr. Moreno. Of course I'm not in Chino's head and can't be sure of that. But that's what I feel.
he said tha S/T was his favorite, S/T and ATF
and i wanna hear Eros.
I know that sooner or later we're goin to hear some material or the full album.
When did he say his favorite record was S/T? I've never heard that. WP was clearly chinos record. In alot of interviews ive seen stef wouldnt write anything so chino started it. In some guitar world video or something like that stef said he was tired of starting all the songs so he let them do it.
I really want to hear Eros for one because its the last thing chi was on. And i think the guitar will probablly sound a bit more raw than on DE since thats when stef first got the 8-String. And Chi's Fat ass bass lines, which are missed on DE. Dont get me wrong Sergio did a good job but Chi doesnt just follow what stef does he kind of does his own thing but still makes it flow. And i still think the bass lines in cherry waves are some of his most beautiful work. I dont even know the guy but i miss him :'(
he never said S/T was his fav. in fact he sorta implies he doesn't care for it much
Chi's basslines in change, cherry waves, and uuddlrlr are really cool, just to name a few. him and frank own the ezrin demos.
yeah man, i not quite sure at what level the record is finished, the thing is...when you make something, and time passes on it, its imposible not to watch it with fresh new eyes, so im totally picturing "some makeovers" to the album in a near posible future, wich personally i wouldnt like. i want this shit, as raw as it is.
Maybe a box set release? But then that would be a long ass time to wait.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 24, 2010, 04:53 PM
he never said S/T was his fav. in fact he sorta implies he doesn't care for it much
I remember a 'cell-phone' interview back when they were recording where he calls it the most beautiful thing they've ever done.
I can only assume he was high at the time.
Quote from: FeetLikeFins on Mar 24, 2010, 09:11 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 24, 2010, 04:53 PM
he never said S/T was his fav. in fact he sorta implies he doesn't care for it much
I remember a 'cell-phone' interview back when they were recording where he calls it the most beautiful thing they've ever done.
I can only assume he was high at the time.
high and trying to hype the album
Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 24, 2010, 09:16 PM
Quote from: FeetLikeFins on Mar 24, 2010, 09:11 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 24, 2010, 04:53 PM
he never said S/T was his fav. in fact he sorta implies he doesn't care for it much
I remember a 'cell-phone' interview back when they were recording where he calls it the most beautiful thing they've ever done.
I can only assume he was high at the time.
high and trying to hype the album
Of course.
Quote from: Jacob on Mar 23, 2010, 10:04 PM
just watched all the clips in the first post and I can't believe I've missed those before. the drums of the song in the studio clips is very similar to Digital Bath, almost the exact same thing. that's pretty cool. overall, it does indeed sound like this would be a much heavier, darker and experimental album. it would be nice to hear.
but fuck me, I'm in love with DE :)
Yeah, I am with you on this Jacob. Major props to MR. V for this thread, some really good stuff here.
i remember reading an interview back in the S/T era (2003-2004), don't remember honestly where (maybe deftonesworld.com or something else)
chino said sth like this: "this album (S/T) is my favorite, this one and ATF" or something like that
Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 24, 2010, 09:16 PM
Quote from: FeetLikeFins on Mar 24, 2010, 09:11 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 24, 2010, 04:53 PM
he never said S/T was his fav. in fact he sorta implies he doesn't care for it much
I remember a 'cell-phone' interview back when they were recording where he calls it the most beautiful thing they've ever done.
I can only assume he was high at the time.
high and trying to hype the album
Or it's actually what he thought at that moment in time.
Imagine when they first wrote Minerva, anyone who writes a song like that is going to be choked for a long time!
he only said it once from what i remember, and it was still just "tied" with ATF. he's said atf or wp is his fav tons of time. he really only tallks about those 2. i bet if you ask them now none of them put ST in their top 3 deftones albums
i'm sue he's proud of minerva. and all the albums. just more proud of WP and ATF
Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 25, 2010, 10:45 AM
he only said it once from what i remember, and it was still just "tied" with ATF. he's said atf or wp is his fav tons of time. he really only tallks about those 2. i bet if you ask them now none of them put ST in their top 3 deftones albums
Yeah, I can imagine, that album has a very dark vibe about it and they were all going through heavy shit at that time. You could see it and hear it during that period. Funnily enough that's when I became a fan, I fell in love with that album.
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 12:25 PM
Definitely. Stef owns the 6-string.
i agree on this,.. but in these eros videos it almost seems the 8-string owns steph.. its like this uncontrollable monster. with a life of its own.. he's like "aarrrgh its gonna kill me help mee" i like it though. heavy ass sick shit
Definitely. The In Studio video 4 is the shit.
the best in studio clip was the fake one with Chino all fat eating/sleeping. i loved that. hilarious. almost as good as the hotdog pic
is it still on youtube? it is freakin GOLDEN
chino yoou rack a disciprine
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 25, 2010, 12:52 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 12:25 PM
Definitely. Stef owns the 6-string.
i agree on this,.. but in these eros videos it almost seems the 8-string owns steph.. its like this uncontrollable monster. with a life of its own.. he's like "aarrrgh its gonna kill me help mee" i like it though. heavy ass sick shit
I like the 8-string and all but idc how good your producer is or the sound engineer. that shit will still sound muddy a fuck, i like it. but...
Stefs guitar on ATF Adreniline and Wp sounded like a Robot Buzzsaw trained to rid the world of virgins.
Kind of like this
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/Robobuzzsaw-1.jpg)
EDIT: So anyway after Chino was dismantled by the robo buzzsaw. They had the technology to make him faster stronger slimmer? and eros was shelved because chino said the earth and this angerd stef and this new bio-engineered Chino Went on to give one of his best vocal performances of his life. And at no time was the earth mentioned. and this Album Was Called Diamond Eyes.
(http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx234/flea35/Diamond20Eyes_small.jpg) (http://s759.photobucket.com/albums/xx234/flea35/?action=view¤t=Diamond20Eyes_small.jpg)
this is the greatest picture in the world
yeah yeah fuck the both of yas
LOL thats funny shit
easy on the personal attacks.
Really guy?? you wanna do this, thats my fuckin wife, you twatwaffle
know what im not even gunna acknowledge your shit.
Quote from: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 04:36 PM
ok its gone
DUDE WTF I WAS LAUGHING MY ASS OFF.
Fucking pussies. >:(
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Mar 25, 2010, 04:40 PM
Really guy?? you wanna do this, thats my fuckin wife, you twatwaffle
know what im not even gunna acknowledge your shit.
ok dude i just didnt appreciate the Deftones86 Suck my cock comment. So i took my shit down. except the robo buzzsaw. I think thats at least fair for the Numnuts comment.
But ohhhh shit Deftones forum drama haha
I'm still laughing though.
" Oh look Stef I got one. "
;D
Seriously, this forum could be a television hit.
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 04:56 PM
I'm still laughing though.
" Oh look Stef I got one. "
;D
Seriously, this forum could be a television hit.
Like Tones through the hour glass these are the posts of our lives.....(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/days_of_our_lives.jpg)
FUCK YEAH.
But yea seriously someone needs to pitch this idea to a network but Robo Buzzsaw has to be in it. wouldnt be much of a program with out him.
nice
edit: dude i wanna see the other part, come on.
see what the picture i took down?
Quote from: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 06:21 PM
see what the picture i took down?
yeah come on, so i can see the full story
Yeah come on mock his girlfriend again.
What about that nice little text ?
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 06:27 PM
What about that nice little text ?
And now back to your happy drama free lives, but drama makes life interesting
oh fuck it, i thought it was funny like the deftones one. anyways thanks.
" That dude I mean chick "
;D
So what if he said that? I cant see Chino in an interview saying: "Well man, this is our worst album. Dont you buy it, its really bad".
No matter what, they will always say that just because they always try new stuff in every new record. Thats why they make sure to say in every new record that they didnt want to make another WP or whatever they already created.
And S/T its a fucking huge record.
ops double post
\viewing these clips now, I remember that time checking their blogspot blog a couple times a day, waiting for the record, deftones' site with Eros: ...ember 2008 or Winter 2009 posters on it
Quote from: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 05:39 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 04:56 PM
I'm still laughing though.
" Oh look Stef I got one. "
;D
Seriously, this forum could be a television hit.
Like Tones through the hour glass these are the posts of our lives.....
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/days_of_our_lives.jpg)
you're the fucking man
no shit
Quote from: deftones86 on Mar 25, 2010, 03:21 PM
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 25, 2010, 12:52 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 25, 2010, 12:25 PM
Definitely. Stef owns the 6-string.
i agree on this,.. but in these eros videos it almost seems the 8-string owns steph.. its like this uncontrollable monster. with a life of its own.. he's like "aarrrgh its gonna kill me help mee" i like it though. heavy ass sick shit
I like the 8-string and all but idc how good your producer is or the sound engineer. that shit will still sound muddy a fuck, i like it. but...
Stefs guitar on ATF Adreniline and Wp sounded like a Robot Buzzsaw trained to rid the world of virgins.
Kind of like this
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/Robobuzzsaw-1.jpg)
EDIT: So anyway after Chino was dismantled by the robo buzzsaw. They had the technology to make him faster stronger slimmer? and eros was shelved because chino said the earth and this angerd stef and this new bio-engineered Chino Went on to give one of his best vocal performances of his life. And at no time was the earth mentioned. and this Album Was Called Diamond Eyes.
(http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx234/flea35/Diamond20Eyes_small.jpg) (http://s759.photobucket.com/albums/xx234/flea35/?action=view¤t=Diamond20Eyes_small.jpg)
LMFAO!!! for sure!! hahaha
een when i didn't see the final part haha, that was awesome hahah... look, Stef harharhar!!!!!
"Chino Went on to give one of his best vocal performances of his life. And at no time was the earth mentioned. and this Album Was Called Diamond Eyes."
hahahahahaha, I love that part, this little story will be the Forum-s highlight of the year. And the picture of chino singing The earth...man, that one must have been taken while playing kim dracula.
He says Earth in CMND/CTRL.
Quote from: iceache on Mar 27, 2010, 11:22 PM
He says Earth in CMND/CTRL.
haha he snuck it in there. he can't help himself
Yeah Chino is quite elemental. Earth Water Sky Space and Sex. ;)
Quote from: iceache on Mar 27, 2010, 11:22 PM
He says Earth in CMND/CTRL.
Well fuck. dont tell stef. you know what happens.....
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/Stef2.jpg)
guitars dont sound muddy on DE they sound huge
Quote from: godin on Mar 28, 2010, 07:03 AM
guitars dont sound muddy on DE they sound huge
Agreed. SNW's sound was so terrible compared to this album.
Quote from: iceache on Mar 28, 2010, 07:59 AM
Quote from: godin on Mar 28, 2010, 07:03 AM
guitars dont sound muddy on DE they sound huge
Agreed. SNW's sound was so terrible compared to this album.
i agree and disagree. i think the guitars sound good most the time but on songs like prince there's a noticeable difference in quality, the chorus sounds very muddy. snw was produced pretty well, i think.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 25, 2010, 01:13 PM
the best in studio clip was the fake one with Chino all fat eating/sleeping. i loved that. hilarious. almost as good as the hotdog pic
is it still on youtube? it is freakin GOLDEN
cool that was actually me, i dont have it anymore, took it off cause i dunno, but it makes me laugh thinking about when i made it. remember i put 'hooked on a feeling' on background while i lay down on a carpet with some snack in my hand and a pillow stuffed onder my t-shirt, making snoring noises. does someone have it maybe?
i also made an in sync mesh up of Mein and Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up.. also lost in space now..
that was you. bravo man, that was pure GOLD. you shouldn't have taken those down, they were classics. everyone loved them :(
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=50389775 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=50389775)
lol yeah i remember now i found it again one day on myspace vids. at least this one.
i made it simply with Windows Movie Maker so transitions arent all perfect, though i find that shitty editing actually makes it even better hehe
I am excited about Eros. Might be the last work we get to hear of Chi :( ( I hope not ) The album art for the deftones website at the time was bad ass!
The intro on those Eros videos is Beauty School!
WTF?!
I thought they wrote a whole "new" record...
Quote from: kameron632 on Mar 29, 2010, 02:17 AM
The intro on those Eros videos is Beauty School!
WTF?!
I thought they wrote a whole "new" record...
No dude, the intro to the in-studio clips is not Beauty School. Thats Eros material, which is completely different.
Quote from: stapezee on Mar 29, 2010, 02:37 AM
Quote from: kameron632 on Mar 29, 2010, 02:17 AM
The intro on those Eros videos is Beauty School!
WTF?!
I thought they wrote a whole "new" record...
No dude, the intro to the in-studio clips is not Beauty School. Thats Eros material, which is completely different.
It does resemble it very much
Quote from: gunsrazorsknives on Mar 29, 2010, 02:39 AM
Quote from: stapezee on Mar 29, 2010, 02:37 AM
Quote from: kameron632 on Mar 29, 2010, 02:17 AM
The intro on those Eros videos is Beauty School!
WTF?!
I thought they wrote a whole "new" record...
No dude, the intro to the in-studio clips is not Beauty School. Thats Eros material, which is completely different.
It does resemble it very much
Agreed, and I hope that because of the similarity (seemingly) that the riff wouldn't be used.
I'm confident that I'll love anything that the Deftones release (or leak) as long as they don't repeat themselves.
(Plus, generally speaking, when the sound is heavier, the songs are better ;)).
*Fucked up, blame the weed.
That clip number 2 is just.....FUCK Is amazing LMAO !!!!!! I want Frank to use those fucking samplings !!!!!!
It would be nice to see to what degree or not Eros is the link or a progression between SNW and Diamond Eyes, given that the sound on the two are quite far apart.
Quote from: iceache on Mar 28, 2010, 07:59 AM
Quote from: godin on Mar 28, 2010, 07:03 AM
guitars dont sound muddy on DE they sound huge
Agreed. SNW's sound was so terrible compared to this album.
+1000000000000
I wish Chino does a collab with Grady Avenell from Will Haven, when they get back to complete the sessions. As far I know, Chino has to complete the vocals
Theory:
I don't believe Eros really exists outside of a few left over songs that WEREN'T reworked onto Diamond Eyes, like the music on the videos which was very likely an early Beauty School. Melanie is one of those few songs that didn't make it. It will be one of the B Sides Lopez was talking about. Eros likely doesn't exist anymore.
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 04, 2010, 09:47 PM
Theory:
I don't believe Eros really exists outside of a few left over songs that WEREN'T reworked onto Diamond Eyes, like the music on the videos which was very likely an early Beauty School. Melanie is one of those few songs that didn't make it. It will be one of the B Sides Lopez was talking about. Eros likely doesn't exist anymore.
I'm going to call... THE RAPEMAAAAN.
I took Rapeman's mask after I raped him.
I thought Chino said they're going to release it one day? If so, then it must be sort of complete, surely?
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 04, 2010, 09:50 PM
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 04, 2010, 09:47 PM
Theory:
I don't believe Eros really exists outside of a few left over songs that WEREN'T reworked onto Diamond Eyes, like the music on the videos which was very likely an early Beauty School. Melanie is one of those few songs that didn't make it. It will be one of the B Sides Lopez was talking about. Eros likely doesn't exist anymore.
If melanie is one of them, that would be sweet
This whole Eros thing has me thinking...
Maybe the reason we won't hear it is because Chi recorded on it and he needs to fill out some paperwork, like release forms, contracts, and whatever else. Basically legal issues.
I would love to hear it, not only because it's unreleased Deftones material but because Chi played on it. And if I remember right he had written some stuff for it.
Quote from: Robotsatemygrandma on Apr 05, 2010, 12:26 AM
This whole Eros thing has me thinking...
Maybe the reason we won't hear it is because Chi recorded on it and he needs to fill out some paperwork, like release forms, contracts, and whatever else. Basically legal issues.
I would love to hear it, not only because it's unreleased Deftones material but because Chi played on it. And if I remember right he had written some stuff for it.
Well in case of an accident someone has the power to sign legal documents in chi's name. I think that the band just didnt want to play those songs live because of the memories attached to them.
Quote from: Robotsatemygrandma on Apr 05, 2010, 12:26 AM
This whole Eros thing has me thinking...
Maybe the reason we won't hear it is because Chi recorded on it and he needs to fill out some paperwork, like release forms, contracts, and whatever else. Basically legal issues.
I would love to hear it, not only because it's unreleased Deftones material but because Chi played on it. And if I remember right he had written some stuff for it.
I think it's more that they want to release and tour Eros with him.
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 09, 2010, 11:38 PM
Quote from: Robotsatemygrandma on Apr 05, 2010, 12:26 AM
This whole Eros thing has me thinking...
Maybe the reason we won't hear it is because Chi recorded on it and he needs to fill out some paperwork, like release forms, contracts, and whatever else. Basically legal issues.
I would love to hear it, not only because it's unreleased Deftones material but because Chi played on it. And if I remember right he had written some stuff for it.
I think it's more that they want to release and tour Eros with him.
I agree, imagine if he woke up to find Eros had been released, was their biggest album and toured places they'd never been before because of it. I'm sure he'd be disheartened. That's there brother, they ain't gonna let that happen.
just to say:
i've just watched the eros in studio clips (just have seen the one of abe and the one of stef) and the music they're playing seems pretty amazing... i hope they won't forget this album and will release it one day.
btw... just curios to see chi playing bass with a pick haha... (video 3 or 4, don't remember which one)
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 04, 2010, 09:47 PM
Theory:
I don't believe Eros really exists outside of a few left over songs that WEREN'T reworked onto Diamond Eyes, like the music on the videos which was very likely an early Beauty School. Melanie is one of those few songs that didn't make it. It will be one of the B Sides Lopez was talking about. Eros likely doesn't exist anymore.
great possibility. in this interview, that has been posted before, in 3:22 chino says "we have another VERSION of the record..."
when he speaks about DE. sure, he talks a lot and maybe he just formulates it wrong, but seems to me he slips
Deftones Interview '09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTcw_nWmSs4#ws)
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 19, 2010, 06:56 PM
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 04, 2010, 09:47 PM
Deftones Interview '09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTcw_nWmSs4#ws)
;D so much tension to watch...what's going through the minds of others when someone is speaking....
man, why do they always look bored when they're giving interview, like "fuuck lets get this over with!"
Quote from: wondermixx on Apr 20, 2010, 05:48 AM
man, why do they always look bored when they're giving interview, like "fuuck lets get this over with!"
They probably (Like most touring bands) Do MANY of those a day. Would for sure just bug you after a while. Same questions. Same answers. 8)
according to this eros will be releases later in the year right or wrong? who knows http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gvfexqugldje~T1 (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gvfexqugldje~T1)
Won't believe till they officially say it. Besides that interview with Sergio said that Eros has been shelved indefinitely so a release this year is far fetched
Quote from: Wax And Wane on Apr 20, 2010, 05:11 PM
Quote from: wondermixx on Apr 20, 2010, 05:48 AM
man, why do they always look bored when they're giving interview, like "fuuck lets get this over with!"
They probably (Like most touring bands) Do MANY of those a day. Would for sure just bug you after a while. Same questions. Same answers. 8)
Yeah man, it's hard to find any band who is actually enthusiastic in interviews. Same old shitty questions, same old answers.
Quote from: Subliminal on Apr 24, 2010, 09:20 AM
Quote from: Wax And Wane on Apr 20, 2010, 05:11 PM
Quote from: wondermixx on Apr 20, 2010, 05:48 AM
man, why do they always look bored when they're giving interview, like "fuuck lets get this over with!"
They probably (Like most touring bands) Do MANY of those a day. Would for sure just bug you after a while. Same questions. Same answers. 8)
Yeah man, it's hard to find any band who is actually enthusiastic in interviews
think it has to do a lot with time.new upcoming bands are enthusiastic in the beginning. deftones for example were often very enthusiastic in interviews,especially around the atf era. lots of more energy, on stage, and off stage
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 24, 2010, 09:29 AM
think it has to do a lot with time.new upcoming bands are enthusiastic in the beginning. deftones for example were often very enthusiastic in interviews,especially around the atf era
Yeah, really, he was gesticulating everywhere explaining what he felt about Around the fur. Now, he's all like: " Haaa, fuck, let's keep gentle until it's over... "
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 24, 2010, 09:31 AM
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 24, 2010, 09:29 AM
think it has to do a lot with time.new upcoming bands are enthusiastic in the beginning. deftones for example were often very enthusiastic in interviews,especially around the atf era
Yeah, really, he was gesticulating everywhere explaining what he felt about Around the fur. Now, he's all like: " Haaa, fuck, let's keep gentle until it's over... "
yeah he had a spark in his eye back then
Haha, yeah, exactly.
Quote from: juvenile on Apr 04, 2010, 09:26 PM
I wish Chino does a collab with Grady Avenell from Will Haven, when they get back to complete the sessions. As far I know, Chino has to complete the vocals
Indeed! And while they are at it; record one Deftones and a Will Haven track together :)
i just saw all the "deftones in studio" videos...they sound awesome.
I have a feeling that Eros is a great album.
There is something about Eros that is keeping we waiting. I love Diamond eyes but am already excited and eagerly awaitng their next release.
Every album is great in its own way but I think Eros is going to have something immence to give. Even the name of the album sounds really interesting. Hopefully Chi is on his feet and back on bass and they can get this album pushed out for next year maybe? 8)
Quote from: mikemerrett on May 07, 2010, 08:15 AM
There is something about Eros that is keeping we waiting. I love Diamond eyes but am already excited and eagerly awaitng their next release.
Every album is great in its own way but I think Eros is going to have something immence to give. Even the name of the album sounds really interesting. Hopefully Chi is on his feet and back on bass and they can get this album pushed out for next year maybe? 8)
yea keep on dreaming
That is probably a bit optimistic. Hopefully it wont be to long a wait. .
Quote from: Moz on May 07, 2010, 10:02 AM
Quote from: mikemerrett on May 07, 2010, 08:15 AM
There is something about Eros that is keeping we waiting. I love Diamond eyes but am already excited and eagerly awaitng their next release.
Every album is great in its own way but I think Eros is going to have something immence to give. Even the name of the album sounds really interesting. Hopefully Chi is on his feet and back on bass and they can get this album pushed out for next year maybe? 8)
yea keep on dreaming
Well in one of the recent interviews chino said how they've still got a few albums to produce for their current deal, i doubt they'll shelve a whole album and make a bunch of others..they'll definitely use Eros as one of the releases.
in the ultimate guitar interview:
"Do you think there were any ideas that appeared on Eros that sort of got refined or morphed into [Diamond Eyes?]"
Chino: I don't know; not really. For some reason it's just a different record you know what I mean?
wait what... "i dont know"? "for some reason its different"?
why isnt the answer "no completley different songs"? its like a lot of eros was transformed. more so than they like to admit. and in the previous page there's chino saying "there is another version of the record" when speaking of eros.
and when chino spoke about the leak of diamond eyes in kerrang he said "wow I worked on this for three years, pretty much, and in three minutes some one can just download it for free"
three years? really? that was in 2007 when they started working on eros.
no wonder they made diamond eyes so fast?
wouldn't surprise me one bit if they scrapped the Eros songs and used some of the parts for DE. one of the reasons I'm not one of those going on about how much I hope/believe Eros will one day be released. but the amount of material that was actually used is anyone's guess. and personally, I don't think it's that much, only a riff here and there that were reworked.
at first i thought of eros as a totally different record of its own.i mean,thats what they said during the end of making diamond eyes.
but when i heard beauty school it reminded me so much of the eros clip that i thought well maybe they used some eros material on d.e... if it happened once,then why not twice?
and as time goes by and deftones speak more and more of eros, their answers more and more seem to support the theory of of diamond eyes being reworked eros material.
i think several eros songs do exist that arent on de, but eros almost seem like a demo to diamond eyes.
i mean the snw demo had 6 songs on the actual snw record.6 out of 15 demo songs ended on the final product which mean plenty of stuff was dumped.something like that may be the case here too.eros being dumped demos
Quote from: Vesanic on May 09, 2010, 08:07 AM
But I'm pretty sure that they didn't take any of the work from Eros to put on Diamond Eyes.
then why all the vague answers?
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 09, 2010, 08:16 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on May 09, 2010, 08:07 AM
But I'm pretty sure that they didn't take any of the work from Eros to put on Diamond Eyes.
then why all the vague answers?
That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the reason.
I really don't think anything from Eros was redone for DE. From the sound of it, Eros was pretty much done except for Chino finishing his lyrics.
They also keep saying they'll release it some day to benefit Chi.
And if you think Beauty School is a redone version of the song from the Eros videos, you got shit in your ears. The two sound nothing alike apart from the spacey vibe.
Quote from: Vesanic on May 09, 2010, 08:19 AM
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 09, 2010, 08:16 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on May 09, 2010, 08:07 AM
But I'm pretty sure that they didn't take any of the work from Eros to put on Diamond Eyes.
then why all the vague answers?
That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the reason.
ok so if chino got asked if lady ga ga helped out with the song writings on some of the songs, chino could just as possibly give these indefinite answers on that question too?
chino would be like "lady ga ga? i dont know,not really... for some reasons she didnt help out you know"
Quote from: rainnyx4 on May 09, 2010, 08:25 AM
And if you think Beauty School is a redone version of the song from the Eros videos, you got shit in your ears.
i do think its a redone version. and some others do
Quote from: gunsrazorsknives on Mar 19, 2010, 07:14 PM
Beauty school is the same intro as the Eros session teaser clips we all loved.
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Mar 19, 2010, 07:15 PM
Shit, didn't even notice but you're right.
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 04, 2010, 09:47 PM
like the music on the videos which was very likely an early Beauty School.
Quote from: darksoul on Mar 20, 2010, 12:28 AM
isnt beauty school the song that was on the deftones eros sniptes ?
maybe we should clean our ears who knows, but at least we got ears to begin with ;)
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 09, 2010, 08:25 AM
ok so if chino got asked if lady ga ga helped out with the song writings on some of the songs, chino could just as possibly give these indefinite answers on that question too?
chino would be like "lady ga ga? i dont know,not really... for some reasons she didnt help out you know"
Look, until we have Eros, you and I can't be sure. As I said, I could be wrong, I wouldn't shit a clock if I were wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's not the same song and I probably won't change my mind before we have the answer.
It doesn't sound like it from what I hear. Maybe the same sort of vibe and tempo but I personally can't see how that would morph into Beauty School.
Quote from: Vesanic on May 09, 2010, 08:38 AM
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 09, 2010, 08:25 AM
ok so if chino got asked if lady ga ga helped out with the song writings on some of the songs, chino could just as possibly give these indefinite answers on that question too?
chino would be like "lady ga ga? i dont know,not really... for some reasons she didnt help out you know"
Look, until we have Eros, you and I can't be sure. As I said, I could be wrong, I wouldn't shit a clock if I were wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's not the same song and I probably won't change my mind before we have the answer.
yeah but the thing is, if they go back to the eros sessions again, they will probably rework that material too, dont you think? especially if some songs or riffs were used on d.e
Quote from: nineteen on May 09, 2010, 08:46 AM
It doesn't sound like it from what I hear. Maybe the same sort of vibe and tempo but I personally can't see how that would morph into Beauty School.
if beauty school would be where its at on the record.... and then if this eros clip would be extended as a song of its own and then would be in,lets say sextape's place on the album, theni assure you everyone would be like " ::) are they serious? they're too much alike! hell is the same fucking song! " everyone would give deftones a lot of shit for it. i just see the sl reactions infront of me
JESUS is making a convincing case here. I pray that he is wrong.
I just know in 2 years Eros will be 5 years old and they'll want to work on something new. They could continue Eros into a double album, if the new material is different then which album do they tour for? Release them on the same day or 3 months apart.
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 08, 2010, 04:38 PM
in the ultimate guitar interview:
"Do you think there were any ideas that appeared on Eros that sort of got refined or morphed into [Diamond Eyes?]"
Chino: I don’t know; not really. For some reason it’s just a different record you know what I mean?
wait what... "i dont know"? "for some reason its different"?
why isnt the answer "no completley different songs"? its like a lot of eros was transformed. more so than they like to admit. and in the previous page there's chino saying "there is another version of the record" when speaking of eros.
and when chino spoke about the leak of diamond eyes in kerrang he said "wow I worked on this for three years, pretty much, and in three minutes some one can just download it for free"
three years? really? that was in 2007 when they started working on eros.
no wonder they made diamond eyes so fast?
Dude i wasnt thinking the exact same shit
Damn.
They may issue the album without touring behind it.
after the letdown of DE I've romanticised Eros. There is a mysticism to the mysterious record that fascinates. I wish they'd just slapped the name Eros onto DE and said it was the same record to spare me the obsession. I know they don't want to release it until Chi wakes up, but if Chi has taught us a lesson, it is that life is short... and that they should release the record now.
Quote from: nineteen on May 11, 2010, 06:57 AM
They may issue the album without touring behind it.
Surely that would be the best way forward. With the apparent success of DE, they might make a few off a download only release of Eros (to avoid overheads) that could go towards Chi's family/his recovery. They wouldn't have to play those songs live, and we probably wouldn't expect them to, given the circumstances.
Quote from: theshadeisatool on May 11, 2010, 09:08 AM
Quote from: nineteen on May 11, 2010, 06:57 AM
They may issue the album without touring behind it.
Surely that would be the best way forward. With the apparent success of DE, they might make a few off a download only release of Eros (to avoid overheads) that could go towards Chi's family/his recovery. They wouldn't have to play those songs live, and we probably wouldn't expect them to, given the circumstances.
in my opinion they just plain would NOT tour this album without chi. i think it'd add a whole mystique to the album if they never toured it and just everything that has happened with it so far. basically you guys have the right idea. release it with proceeds going to chi and his family and don't tour any of the material. i think everyone would rather wait it out with chi though. it'd be a great little celebration item if/when he recovers.
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 11, 2010, 02:50 PM
Quote from: theshadeisatool on May 11, 2010, 09:08 AM
Quote from: nineteen on May 11, 2010, 06:57 AM
They may issue the album without touring behind it.
Surely that would be the best way forward. With the apparent success of DE, they might make a few off a download only release of Eros (to avoid overheads) that could go towards Chi's family/his recovery. They wouldn't have to play those songs live, and we probably wouldn't expect them to, given the circumstances.
in my opinion they just plain would NOT tour this album without chi. i think it'd add a whole mystique to the album if they never toured it and just everything that has happened with it so far. basically you guys have the right idea. release it with proceeds going to chi and his family and don't tour any of the material. i think everyone would rather wait it out with chi though. it'd be a great little celebration item if/when he recovers.
I second that. Chi is missing out on all that involed with the new deftones release. Wait until he's fully recovered so he can be a part of it.
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 11, 2010, 02:50 PM
Quote from: theshadeisatool on May 11, 2010, 09:08 AM
Quote from: nineteen on May 11, 2010, 06:57 AM
They may issue the album without touring behind it.
Surely that would be the best way forward. With the apparent success of DE, they might make a few off a download only release of Eros (to avoid overheads) that could go towards Chi's family/his recovery. They wouldn't have to play those songs live, and we probably wouldn't expect them to, given the circumstances.
in my opinion they just plain would NOT tour this album without chi. i think it'd add a whole mystique to the album if they never toured it and just everything that has happened with it so far. basically you guys have the right idea. release it with proceeds going to chi and his family and don't tour any of the material. i think everyone would rather wait it out with chi though. it'd be a great little celebration item if/when he recovers.
Despite Agreeing with you, i suppose if Chi recovers they would much preffer creating a new record and not finishing the one that was shelved some years ago. An important principle for deftones's art is to capture the beauty of a moment and then go on. I hope my idea was clear.
It will come out someday.... No doubt on that. worst case played out. The record company will release it after the Deftones call it quits (Which I pray does NOT ever happen) But I think they will release it at that point if the Tones decide not to while they are together, Just to earn a couple extra bucks off the band. What would be awesome is to make it a download/donate thing on line for Chi. ;D Just my two cents (Prob worth half a penny) ;)
Quote from: Wax And Wane on May 11, 2010, 11:08 PM
It will come out someday....
in this day and age im surprised the damn thing hasnt leaked somehow already....
well the vocals aren't done so that's my main suspicion in why it may not come out. but if it comes out i doubt it'd be before chi recovers and it's up in the air if (god forbid) chi doesn't recover.
i'm liking the idea of making it a downloadable thing with proceeds going for Chi.
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on May 12, 2010, 01:20 AM
i'm liking the idea of making it a downloadable thing with proceeds going for Chi.
bravo and what better time than now to do so on the strength of releasing de id dl it and be happy that my $ was going to a good cause
Quote from: wax on May 12, 2010, 01:31 AM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on May 12, 2010, 01:20 AM
i'm liking the idea of making it a downloadable thing with proceeds going for Chi.
bravo and what better time than now to do so on the strength of releasing de id dl it and be happy that my $ was going to a good cause
it would still leak an only true fans would actually pay for it...shame:-(
Quote from: kleptoned on May 12, 2010, 01:47 AM
Quote from: wax on May 12, 2010, 01:31 AM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on May 12, 2010, 01:20 AM
i'm liking the idea of making it a downloadable thing with proceeds going for Chi.
bravo and what better time than now to do so on the strength of releasing de id dl it and be happy that my $ was going to a good cause
it would still leak an only true fans would actually pay for it...shame:-(
it would happen if it's released as digital or physical too... only true fans will pay for it.
The problem I see is (as has been said) that the vocals aren't finished. I think Chino said he's only half done and I can't see him going back to finish vocals for this record. So either they release half of Eros which would be retarded or not release anything. I am all for the idea of them releasing it sooner rather than later as a digital download only with the proceeds going to Chi and I would have a decent feeling it could come out this year even if it just wasn't for the vocals not being finished. Dang.
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 12, 2010, 01:59 AM
Quote from: kleptoned on May 12, 2010, 01:47 AM
Quote from: wax on May 12, 2010, 01:31 AM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on May 12, 2010, 01:20 AM
i'm liking the idea of making it a downloadable thing with proceeds going for Chi.
bravo and what better time than now to do so on the strength of releasing de id dl it and be happy that my $ was going to a good cause
it would still leak an only true fans would actually pay for it...shame:-(
it would happen if it's released as digital or physical too... only true fans will pay for it.
I know I'd pay for it..... You could always have a set price then add like an extra amount of what ever you wanted to pay (Or didn't want to pay) Like an extra donation. But despite anything I think the album ios further along then we think. They were saying a winter releas in 2009 and that wasn't long after Chi got in the wreck. But despite anything I hope Chi Does get on his feet and come back.... But if not it would be stupid for them not to release it to help with all his medical stuff.
There's a rather lenghty interview with Deftones (mainly Chino and a little Abe) in the latest issue of Sweden's biggest metal/rock magazine Close-Up. It might all be horse-shit but this is what Chino said talking about shelving Eros. It's written in swedish so i'll try and translate it back to english:
"It wouldn't have been therapeutic if we would have began looking for a new bass-player, who could begin to learn the material we had just written and recorded together with Chi. For us it was about going in there, being creative and bury our heads in something completely new, rather than dwell on something we linked to Chi, together with our shock and loss. It was sort of a productive escapism for us, an escape from a very difficult time."
If this is true and not dreamed up, then I guess Eros is not equal Diamond Eyes demos. I sure hope so!
yeah we know.Diamond Eyes is all new material. watch the ultimate-guitar interview. people ask if the song used in the preview videos is an early beauty school and i say it's not. it's certainly similar but they've been asked directly many times if any eros material eventually became diamond eyes material. every time they have said NO it's all brand spanking new material. i guess we'll see eros when we see it.
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 14, 2010, 02:13 PM
they've been asked directly many times if any eros material eventually became diamond eyes material. every time they have said NO it's all brand spanking new material.
except those times he didnt seem so sure (reply #129) http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html)
if its ALL new on d.e, do you have any clue why he leaves all those uncertin answers?
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 14, 2010, 04:46 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 14, 2010, 02:13 PM
they've been asked directly many times if any eros material eventually became diamond eyes material. every time they have said NO it's all brand spanking new material.
except those times he didnt seem so sure (reply #129) http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html)
if its ALL new on d.e, do you have any clue why he leaves all those uncertin answers?
cuz it's chino. he never gives a straight answer. and besides maybe he does that shit to fuck with our heads here on SL
if chino ever asks me something i will give him a vauge answer. just so he knows how it feels
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 14, 2010, 04:46 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 14, 2010, 02:13 PM
they've been asked directly many times if any eros material eventually became diamond eyes material. every time they have said NO it's all brand spanking new material.
except those times he didnt seem so sure (reply #129) http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16435.120.html)
if its ALL new on d.e, do you have any clue why he leaves all those uncertin answers?
also...theres a reason why the word lying exists..... who knows if any of it got used or not im sure if it did thats not exactly something to admit to.... nah mean?
They should release it as a celebration when Chi wakes up fully or something.
Ah, I dont believe that Diamond Eyes has a lotta material frm Eros on it. It's like they said, they made that album based on where they were at the time, how they were feeling, etc. Then things changed. Why would they keep a lot of it just for the sake of making a new album at a different time in their lives? I dont think they would. But noone knows for sure except those involved.
Quote from: nineteen on May 14, 2010, 08:29 PM
They should release it as a celebration when Chi wakes up fully or something.
Or release it as a celebration of 1 yr. 7 mos. of succesful stabilization.
Quote from: wax on May 14, 2010, 08:12 PM
also...theres a reason why the word lying exists..... who knows if any of it got used or not im sure if it did thats not exactly something to admit to.... nah mean?
yeah if eros with terry was too weird for the masses, and the label suggested that they rewrote it with another producer (nick) to make it more catchy and mainstream, they would never ever admit it
about eros:
"Speaking about Deftones' newest album, Eros, lead singer Chino Moreno said, "The songs are definitely weird, which is a breath of fresh air to me. I haven't been playing guitar on these new songs so Steph [Carpenter] has taken up the helm and that's worked out really well. He's been very creative has been writing very weird, melodic stuff"
if any eros song, besides the other version of beauty school, turned up on d.e i would guess "youve seen the butcher".
its a bit weird and the guitar playing is clearly more melodic than usual steph riffin.speaking of the chorus.
thats just a guess thou, so dont trip :)
stephen seems pretty confident that once they finish it and give it to the label it'll leak.
i just want to hear melanie
Eros is going to be THE record
Quote from: juvenile on May 23, 2010, 07:17 PM
i just want to hear melanie
it's in the middle of SNW, track 8 I think.
Quote from: White Wrist on May 25, 2010, 10:21 AM
Eros is going to be THE record
no way it can live up to it's hype. also if the band just rewrote the material i also think they wouldn't say they plan on releasing it. seems like shooting themselves in the foot a bit.
its time to bring back a female vocalist to make a guest appearance on the album
it would be awesome, specially if is someone like Björk...
i was thinking on what artists would be cool to hear with Deftones, but thought about it carefully since whe all know what happened with Serj...
i would LOVE if there is a guest appearance from Grady (Will Haven), Thom Yorke (Radiohead), Greg Puciato (DEP), Björk...
or some others that some of you may find interesting..
i wanna hear Eros so much.
Serj's part was so lazy that even 2006's Chino could sing it and that's saying something.
yeah, that's something...
also they could do some good things with Trent Reznor, or the guy from Thrice
Rick Astley imagine the possibilites
Susan Boyle, man.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 07, 2010, 03:12 AM
Susan Boyle, man.
Lmfao i dont even know what 2 say to that.
What if all that mystery behind Eros were just a marketing strategy ?
Naaah, I'm being silly but damn, that would be a hell of a good idea.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 08, 2010, 07:09 PM
What if all that mystery behind Eros were just a marketing strategy ?
Naaah, I'm being silly but damn, that would be a hell of a good idea.
marketing strategy in what way? just to hype the band more? ?? personally id be pissed if some band was lying about an album they made and kept saying it might be released and never was. not a good marketing strategy idea to me
Well because now everybody wants to hear Eros like reaaaally bad, that's the goal in a music marketing strategy. I meant " it's a good idea " because it would have worked out really if it really were a strategy, but it sucks on the moral point.
i was thinking the same too. but its really a good idea if the truth isnt reveal
so now this has actually turned into a conspiracy theory? wow.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 08, 2010, 07:23 PM
Well because now everybody wants to hear Eros like reaaaally bad, that's the goal in a music marketing strategy. I meant " it's a good idea " because it would have worked out really if it really were a strategy, but it sucks on the moral point.
hmmm...i dont know how much more people would want to hear an album this proposed way vs. just wanting to hear a new album they
know is coming out for sure. unless it wasnt released for a LONG time in which case wouldnt even make sense....
I said: " If that were true, that would be a subtle hit in the game. "
Of course i know it's not a marketing strategy.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 08, 2010, 07:09 PM
What if all that mystery behind Eros were just a marketing strategy ?
Naaah, I'm being silly but damn, that would be a hell of a good idea.
what if Eros= Diamond Eyes to throw us off?? lol jk
Quote from: defTHE1s on Jun 07, 2010, 02:17 AM
it would be awesome, specially if is someone like Björk...
i was thinking on what artists would be cool to hear with Deftones, but thought about it carefully since whe all know what happened with Serj...
i would LOVE if there is a guest appearance from Grady (Will Haven), Thom Yorke (Radiohead), Greg Puciato (DEP), Björk...
or some others that some of you may find interesting..
i wanna hear Eros so much.
I was thinkin Cristina from Lacuna coil. i think her voice on a slow tempo team sleepish song or a fast song would go amazing with chino collaborating
I also was thinking, a song kinda Moving to Montana or Finest Hour with Will Haven's vocalist, Grady, would make a pretty good song, something similar to Passenger with Maynard.
does anyone really know how dark and atmospheric eros is? Like is it some real dark shit? the way they make it sound everyone must have been up at two in the morning shooting heroin or tripping on xelant. okay maybe that all stems from my imagination...i just want to float here forever
Quote from: yourwaves on Jun 22, 2010, 01:55 PM
does anyone really know how dark and atmospheric eros is? Like is it some real dark shit? the way they make it sound everyone must have been up at two in the morning shooting heroin or tripping on xelant. okay maybe that all stems from my imagination...i just want to float here forever
Haha. I dont think it was quite so inspired by that, but that's how they make it sound. I like that dark kinda ethereal stuff, but they said it was weird, so I dont know, I think it'd be...a lot different frm their other stuff. Again.
Quote from: yourwaves on Jun 22, 2010, 01:55 PM
does anyone really know how dark and atmospheric eros is? Like is it some real dark shit? the way they make it sound everyone must have been up at two in the morning shooting heroin or tripping on xelant. okay maybe that all stems from my imagination...i just want to float here forever
Whatever you smoke, I want to try it.
haha i wasnt blazed but i am quite intrigued about the way they make eros sound i think since everyone was all in turmoil and i think chino started hitting the booger sugar lol i had to say it myself everyone else does...but u know it was dark time.. in my mind eros sounds more like tool u kno the anema period and a little of lateralus... and wings for marie killer song... maybe a little bit of apc too.
Quote from: yourwaves on Jun 22, 2010, 06:39 PM
haha i wasnt blazed but i am quite intrigued about the way they make eros sound i think since everyone was all in turmoil and i think chino started hitting the booger sugar lol i had to say it myself everyone else does...but u know it was dark time.. in my mind eros sounds more like tool u kno the anema period and a little of lateralus... and wings for marie killer song... maybe a little bit of apc too.
Was he still doing coke then? Ah, either way...I love that whole dark and slightly depressing kind of music. Deftones does it well, and they make their dark-sounding music really haunting and I love that. But yeah they said it was weird, so I guess it's hard to make assumptions about what it sounds like. None of their albums really sound the same or sound like a continuation or part 2 of anything, but I am really intrigued by what it'd sound like. One day, I guess.
yea i hope that one day comes fast no wait i hope its slow and hard but also fast...x)
just watched melanie live and realized hes playin with a seven string.. had to see it to be sure. i thought eros was recorded using an 8 string guitar.
Hey guys, do U think the Eros material will be released when current tour finishes?
Quote from: Mothman on Jul 19, 2010, 10:17 PM
Hey guys, do U think the Eros material will be released when current tour finishes?
No, I don't.
I kind of get the feeling some of the songs on Eros were redone for Diamond Eyes. Especially "This Place Is Death", it has a very similar sound to Self Titled. When I picture the sound for Eros I picture an album similar to Self Titled. Self Titled was originally supposed to be titled "Lovers", and Eros means 1. The god of love 2. Creative, often sexual yearning, love, or desire. There has to be some connection in direction, it almost seems to be intentional its such a coincidence. Overall Self Titled is my favorite album by Deftones and I'd love to see them continue in that direction, I cant complain because they made Diamond Eyes which brought them together as a band again and also brought back their youth. They haven't been this good live in years, Diamond Eyes is perfect for them right now I thinks its what they needed and I'm fully content with just that alone.
I was at a random house delivering some things, and found this:
http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075 (http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075)[1].jpg
I know the quality sucks but it's a door, and it says EROS... found this weird and funny.. in a door? really?? haha WTF..
Edit: Had to remove the pic and let the link only, buddy. Pic was too big. Vesanic
Hahah ok, thanks, but I WANTED the pic to be shown as IT IS!!!
j/k Ves, I shoul've used the Spolier function..
QuoteI was at a random house delivering some things, and found this:
http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075 (http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075)[1].jpg
I know the quality sucks but it's a door, and it says EROS... found this weird and funny.. in a door? really?? haha WTF..
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Quote from: Nebontha on Aug 15, 2010, 10:58 PM
QuoteI was at a random house delivering some things, and found this:
http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075 (http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075)[1].jpg
I know the quality sucks but it's a door, and it says EROS... found this weird and funny.. in a door? really?? haha WTF..
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Are you sure? copy the link again.. _http://defthe1s.webcindario.com/Imagen0075[1].jpg
right, sorry, I should have copy/pasted the whole line, not just what was hyperlink'ed
[Part 2] Very cool interview of Chino Moreno for Musiquemag.com 2010 [Sous-titres français] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmIgQ4-chA&feature=related#ws)
looks like eros has some psychedelic influences, free style jamming kind of album.. this interview also confirms they have 2 more records left with their label, since diamond eyes has been released, its down to one now.
credit to Vesanique for posting on youtube.
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Awesome news that they plan on releasing Eros!
Quote from: marco j on Sep 08, 2010, 08:51 PM
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Awesome news that they plan on releasing Eros!
they always did intend to release, they still don't know when..but yeah it is awesome. the description is quite interesting too
I think I shared that in the interviews thread some while ago... Whatever, glad that you like it, fellas.
You bet your ass is psychodelic, did you hear the sounds on video number 2 of the eros session?
deftones in studio clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEq18AHrTdo#)
So fucking fantastic
Psychedelic is the "Bob Ezrin tracks". Can't imagine them going any more psychedelic than that! It excites me to even picture what is "Eros".
I guess Eros is pretty much SNW number 2. Just darker, with a more concrete structure and even more experimental.
Quote from: juvenile on Sep 08, 2010, 11:50 PM
Quote from: marco j on Sep 08, 2010, 08:51 PM
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Awesome news that they plan on releasing Eros!
they always did intend to release, they still don't know when..but yeah it is awesome. the description is quite interesting too
I wasn't sure if they were going to release it or not. Obviously I want to have anything they release so I will wait patiently for this. :)
Quote from: marco j on Sep 09, 2010, 04:50 PM
Quote from: juvenile on Sep 08, 2010, 11:50 PM
Quote from: marco j on Sep 08, 2010, 08:51 PM
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Awesome news that they plan on releasing Eros!
As we all will just have to. It sucks to even read about it anymore because of the anticipation and rumors.
they always did intend to release, they still don't know when..but yeah it is awesome. the description is quite interesting too
I wasn't sure if they were going to release it or not. Obviously I want to have anything they release so I will wait patiently for this. :)
Jammy... with some heavy stuff... let`s see...
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 09, 2010, 03:09 AM
I guess Eros is pretty much SNW number 2. Just darker, with a more concrete structure and even more experimental.
I'd probably go with that too.
We've already heard one full song and bits of others. Melanie being the full track, and bits from the "in studio" videos they did. I didn't particularly find the heavy guitar parts very insteresting in the clips, but love the music that plays at the beginning of each video. Reminds me of Beastie Boys instrumental album oddly enough. What Frank is playing on keyboard in one of the clips sounds a bit like Battle-Axe if you imagine a heavy guitar playing the same. I am looking forward to it being released but i think like they said "it would've been the end of Deftones" if it had been released instead of Diamond Eyes.
Quote from: nineteen on Sep 16, 2010, 08:30 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 09, 2010, 03:09 AM
I guess Eros is pretty much SNW number 2. Just darker, with a more concrete structure and even more experimental.
I'd probably go with that too.
+10
Quote from: el perro on Sep 17, 2010, 08:30 PM
We've already heard one full song and bits of others. Melanie being the full track, and bits from the "in studio" videos they did. I didn't particularly find the heavy guitar parts very insteresting in the clips, but love the music that plays at the beginning of each video. Reminds me of Beastie Boys instrumental album oddly enough. What Frank is playing on keyboard in one of the clips sounds a bit like Battle-Axe if you imagine a heavy guitar playing the same. I am looking forward to it being released but i think like they said "it would've been the end of Deftones" if it had been released instead of Diamond Eyes.
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..
Quote from: DakkoN on Oct 09, 2010, 11:55 AM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..
No, it was not...
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 10, 2010, 01:16 PM
Quote from: DakkoN on Oct 09, 2010, 11:55 AM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..
No, it was not...
it was confirmed in an interview that there is no material from EROS on Diamond Eyes, its all new. sometime later, ill find that interview. it was a written one, not video for sure.
Quote from: juvenile on Oct 10, 2010, 01:23 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 10, 2010, 01:16 PM
Quote from: DakkoN on Oct 09, 2010, 11:55 AM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..
No, it was not...
it was confirmed in an interview that there is no material from EROS on Diamond Eyes, its all new. sometime later, ill find that interview.
Ok, and while you're at it, can you also get evidence and assurance that deftones always tells the truth about everything?
Come on man, Deftones,especially Chino, lies all the time
Doesn't even sound the same.
Quote from: DakkoN on Oct 09, 2010, 11:55 AM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..
I know ur not the only 2 say that but u guys need to get your fucking ears checked. Im mean what r u retarded?
Quote from: SX King on Oct 10, 2010, 05:59 PM
Quote from: DakkoN on Oct 09, 2010, 11:55 AM
Quote from: el perro on Sep 17, 2010, 08:30 PM
We've already heard one full song and bits of others. Melanie being the full track, and bits from the "in studio" videos they did. I didn't particularly find the heavy guitar parts very insteresting in the clips, but love the music that plays at the beginning of each video. Reminds me of Beastie Boys instrumental album oddly enough. What Frank is playing on keyboard in one of the clips sounds a bit like Battle-Axe if you imagine a heavy guitar playing the same. I am looking forward to it being released but i think like they said "it would've been the end of Deftones" if it had been released instead of Diamond Eyes.
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..
I know ur not the only 2 say that but u guys need to get your fucking ears checked. Im mean what r u retarded?
well, judging by your grasp of the english language, you're no shining example of intellect. i'll admit they're similar but why would the band deny it at all if it was an early version? seems like shooting themselves in the foot a bit. it's not like they'd be trying to hide something. what do they have to gain from it?
Dude thats not what i was saying lol
In Studio Clip:
Deftones eros in Studio 2008 clip 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FevOsH6bQ9w#)
Beauty School
Deftones - Beauty School [2010] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJAvHdcUaPk#ws)
Beauty School is definitely an evolved version of the in studio clips.. Anybody who says otherwise is just kidding themselves.
0 secs to 9 secs of Studio session = 0 secs to 13 secs of Beauty School
9 secs to 20 secs of Studio session = 13 secs to 21 secs of Beauty School
20 secs to the end of the music of Studio session = 21 secs and on of Beauty School
2 years of getting to play with the song before it's released will do that to a song. And it's possible it was much longer than 2 years since SNW came out in 2006..
When they talk about Eros they always said that they stopped working on it right after Chi's accident, so it would seem weird that they really used some Eros material in Diamond Eyes, i'm not saying that the beauty school intro doesn't sound similar to that intro song in the eros sessions vids, it does, but so does the intro of Prince sounds like Rx Queen. But i guess we'll only find out when Eros comes out
Quote from: vinsanity on Oct 10, 2010, 06:57 PM
When they talk about Eros they always said that they stopped working on it right after Chi's accident, so it would seem weird that they really used some Eros material in Diamond Eyes, i'm not saying that the beauty school intro doesn't sound similar to that intro song in the eros sessions vids, it does, but so does the intro of Prince sounds like Rx Queen. But i guess we'll only find out when Eros comes out
IF eros comes out. sadly, it's looking less and less likely to me all the time.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Oct 10, 2010, 07:16 PM
Quote from: vinsanity on Oct 10, 2010, 06:57 PM
When they talk about Eros they always said that they stopped working on it right after Chi's accident, so it would seem weird that they really used some Eros material in Diamond Eyes, i'm not saying that the beauty school intro doesn't sound similar to that intro song in the eros sessions vids, it does, but so does the intro of Prince sounds like Rx Queen. But i guess we'll only find out when Eros comes out
IF eros comes out. sadly, it's looking less and less likely to me all the time.
well, i want to believe that it will come out =). Chi is improving although slow but he's getting better,
Quote from: DakkoN on Oct 10, 2010, 06:30 PM
In Studio Clip:
Deftones eros in Studio 2008 clip 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FevOsH6bQ9w#)
Beauty School
Deftones - Beauty School [2010] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJAvHdcUaPk#ws)
Beauty School is definitely an evolved version of the in studio clips.. Anybody who says otherwise is just kidding themselves.
0 secs to 9 secs of Studio session = 0 secs to 13 secs of Beauty School
9 secs to 20 secs of Studio session = 13 secs to 21 secs of Beauty School
20 secs to the end of the music of Studio session = 21 secs and on of Beauty School
2 years of getting to play with the song before it's released will do that to a song. And it's possible it was much longer than 2 years since SNW came out in 2006..
Dude your trippin, no way these are the same songs....
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 10, 2010, 01:57 PM
Quote from: juvenile on Oct 10, 2010, 01:23 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 10, 2010, 01:16 PM
Quote from: DakkoN on Oct 09, 2010, 11:55 AM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..
No, it was not...
it was confirmed in an interview that there is no material from EROS on Diamond Eyes, its all new. sometime later, ill find that interview.
Ok, and while you're at it, can you also get evidence and assurance that deftones always tells the truth about everything?
Come on man, Deftones,especially Chino, lies all the time
They might be lying but not disrespectful to the point of using material written with Chi in a brand new album. It wouldn't even be legal.
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 11, 2010, 12:57 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 10, 2010, 01:57 PM
Quote from: juvenile on Oct 10, 2010, 01:23 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 10, 2010, 01:16 PM
Quote from: DakkoN on Oct 09, 2010, 11:55 AM
lol, the intro to those videos was an early version of Beauty School..
No, it was not...
it was confirmed in an interview that there is no material from EROS on Diamond Eyes, its all new. sometime later, ill find that interview.
Ok, and while you're at it, can you also get evidence and assurance that deftones always tells the truth about everything?
Come on man, Deftones,especially Chino, lies all the time
They might be lying but not disrespectful to the point of using material written with Chi in a brand new album. It wouldn't even be legal.
just sharing my opinion here. I think it could be the same song. drum pattern and tempo makes me believe that they are the same song.
dude, they writing Diamond Eyes songs less than a year after Chi's accident.
CMIIW Deftones never finished writing their albums in 1 year or less. unless they have some material before.
Edit: oh yeah, MAYBE, maybe Beauty School is a "finished" version of the Eros clip. it reminds me to FOD live clip and the studio version (SNW demos), they have different structures. and that MAYBE happen with the Eros clip.
I think: Just similar, but not the same song.
and MAYBE now they writing new stuff similar to Beauty School, put it on EROS, and said that's the good ol' Eros clip. :p
If it is the same song which i do think they are similar in some ways and the melody would fit if the tempo was little faster. If Chino says they didnt use anything on Eros then do you think maybe Beauty School didnt make the album so they recycled it and used it for DE. Although it was weird when the leak happened and Chino was pist because he said it took 3 or for years of his life to write the material (or something to that effect).
Regarding Chi waking up and playing with the guys again, I've heard a lot of rumors about it. I went to Boston a few weeks ago to see the Blackdiamondskye tour, and I met this dude who was pretty much as big of a fan of the good ole 'tones as I am. He said something about the nerves in Chi's right arm being damaged to the point of his not being able to regain full motor function in his hand and fingers, so if and when he wakes up he wouldn't be able to play bass anymore. I kicked myself for not asking this guy where he got his info, cause I don't think he was lying. He was definitely a huge fan, he was wearing a Deftones t-shirt and was talking to me about his favorite songs and all that jazz. I really doubt he would just come up with random B.S. Then again, this is all purely speculation, nobody knows for sure, we'll all have to see whenever Chi wakes up. I really want to hear Eros as much as the next guy, but the possibility of it being released are getting slimmer and slimmer with each passing day :(
All I know about the release of Eros, is that it definitly will be released. But they want to wait 'till people don't see Eros in combination with Chi's accident. (Chino said this in an interview, I will look it up.) I wonder if that is ever gonna happen...
to be a part of the eros album doesnt mean chi have to play bass....he can just stay there and work with them..
bastards....release this album
We don't know if the intro of the eros clips was a whole song that would be used on Eros or not.It could have been a little jam Chino and Abe wrote that never became anything.Maybe Chi doesn't have any rights to that.
When they had to hurry up and come up with something new (diamond eyes) it's quite possible that they went back to that little jam and developed it to Beauty School.
Secondly: Deftones has received much cred because they wrote diamond eyes rather quickly. IF some of those songs was Eros songs converted into diamond eyes,that cred would disappear in a way; they would not be as productive as artists if those fast written songs was old songs. That's why it's possible that they would be lying about those kind of things.
People have to stop using what the deftones says in interviews as super-reliable sources. : )
(Before White pony was released, a little hip hop tune without lyrics was in a promo video for it. Lots of people thought that song would be on WP (A video of a wasted Abe was filmed in it,maybe someone remember,Video Shoot by Steph. The Eros intro could be of that nature, never a real song)
dude, its an eros song...
its clear..
they did work on it (bass, drums, guitar)....
it doesnt end like a -just an intro-...there is a fade out so that is an absolute cut of the song..
is it beauty school ?
come on guys...beauty scool is a cool song but it CANT be better than that intro..
Why ?
Because beauty school is simple..
Just listen the drums and you ll see
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 12, 2010, 06:11 PM
dude, its an eros song...
its clear..
they did work on it (bass, drums, guitar)....
it doesnt end like a -just an intro-...there is a fade out so that is an absolute cut of the song..
Dude....you haven't heard the eros sessions so you cannot possibly know if it's a finished song that would be on Eros or if it just was a jam.
Listen to the Saturday Night Wrist demo, tons of ideas and jams got canned.
Quote from: Deftonic on Oct 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
Regarding Chi waking up and playing with the guys again, I've heard a lot of rumors about it. I went to Boston a few weeks ago to see the Blackdiamondskye tour, and I met this dude who was pretty much as big of a fan of the good ole 'tones as I am. He said something about the nerves in Chi's right arm being damaged to the point of his not being able to regain full motor function in his hand and fingers, so if and when he wakes up he wouldn't be able to play bass anymore. I kicked myself for not asking this guy where he got his info
well, in 2002 Dave Mustaine had saturday night wrist, and it screwed up the nerves in his playing hand badly. was told by doctors he'd never play guitar again, or never at the level he used to, but he said oh helll no and refused to except that and worked really hard and relearned how to play, got his hand working right again and plays as good as ever
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 12, 2010, 09:38 PM
Quote from: Deftonic on Oct 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
Regarding Chi waking up and playing with the guys again, I've heard a lot of rumors about it. I went to Boston a few weeks ago to see the Blackdiamondskye tour, and I met this dude who was pretty much as big of a fan of the good ole 'tones as I am. He said something about the nerves in Chi's right arm being damaged to the point of his not being able to regain full motor function in his hand and fingers, so if and when he wakes up he wouldn't be able to play bass anymore. I kicked myself for not asking this guy where he got his info
well, in 2002 Dave Mustaine had saturday night wrist, and it screwed up the nerves in his playing hand badly. was told by doctors he'd never play guitar again, or never at the level he used to, but he said oh helll no and refused to except that and worked really hard and relearned how to play, got his hand working right again and plays as good as ever
A significant difference though: the fact that Dave started to play guitar again is not a good thing, but if Chi would play again it would be great.
opinions opinions. i mainly just hope Chi can ever communicate again, and have conversations, even if it's slow or whatever
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 12, 2010, 10:04 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Oct 12, 2010, 09:38 PM
Quote from: Deftonic on Oct 12, 2010, 12:12 AM
Regarding Chi waking up and playing with the guys again, I've heard a lot of rumors about it. I went to Boston a few weeks ago to see the Blackdiamondskye tour, and I met this dude who was pretty much as big of a fan of the good ole 'tones as I am. He said something about the nerves in Chi's right arm being damaged to the point of his not being able to regain full motor function in his hand and fingers, so if and when he wakes up he wouldn't be able to play bass anymore. I kicked myself for not asking this guy where he got his info
well, in 2002 Dave Mustaine had saturday night wrist, and it screwed up the nerves in his playing hand badly. was told by doctors he'd never play guitar again, or never at the level he used to, but he said oh helll no and refused to except that and worked really hard and relearned how to play, got his hand working right again and plays as good as ever
A significant difference though: the fact that Dave started to play guitar again is not a good thing, but if Chi would play again it would be great.
Your insane. That is all.
anyone heard about this Dallas song from the eros recordings?
No. Do tell.
well it could be bull but i was checking info out on the eros album on wiki. check it out if you want. They mention a song called dallas.
well it could be bull but i was checking info out on the eros album on wiki. check it out if you want. They mention a song called dallas.
I can't forget about Eros. Even if I always wonder... ;D
Quote from: wooojorge on Oct 15, 2010, 03:06 AM
well it could be bull but i was checking info out on the eros album on wiki. check it out if you want. They mention a song called dallas.
Maybe they ran out of ideas for a new song and played the dallas theme. that's right, the dallas theme on Eros. Wouldn't that be the day
I really, really want to hear this record now. I'm probably hyping it up to be some masterpiece but it has soooooo much meaning behind it.
I'll probably shit my pants (twice) if I ever hear it.
Quote from: nineteen on Nov 26, 2010, 09:41 PM
I really, really want to hear this record now. I'm probably hyping it up to be some masterpiece but it has soooooo much meaning behind it.
I'll probably shit my pants (twice) if I ever hear it.
ME TOO DAMN IT AND NINETEEN MILLION OTHER PPLS' NAMES
i'm afraid we'll never see eros. maybe one day we'll hear the completed songs but it just seems downright unlikely that chino will ever finish his vocals for this stuff. maybe the unfinished stuff will be released or leaked as instrumental stuff (unlikely) but surely chino won't be revisiting this. too bad really but it's all part of the mystique i guess. it'd make more money than diamond eyes imo.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Nov 29, 2010, 06:04 PM
i'm afraid we'll never see eros. maybe one day we'll hear the completed songs but it just seems downright unlikely that chino will ever finish his vocals for this stuff. maybe the unfinished stuff will be released or leaked as instrumental stuff (unlikely) but surely chino won't be revisiting this. too bad really but it's all part of the mystique i guess. it'd make more money than diamond eyes imo.
word
i think when chino said ''someday it will be out'' he meant ''in 10 years or more''
they lost the passion of work with the eros songs i guess...thats why chino loved DE album more and he said ''DE is our best album''
Cause they dont earn so much money from makin a new album they do not want to put forth an effort,energy..
chino will work with another bands and his side prject and he will forget about the eros...he doesnt care im sure..he just says ''lets wait till chi can play''
I heard Eros is the last document of the 251,000 that wikileaks will release. pray for it's owner not to be killed (or maybe that will be the cause of his murder)
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Dec 09, 2010, 08:58 PM
I heard Eros is the last document of the 251,000 that wikileaks will release. pray for it's owner not to be killed (or maybe that will be the cause of his murder)
+1
I heard some samples of Eros and i must say i'm a little dissapointed.
I found it by accident and now i know why they don't want to release it.....
:(
Quote from: bodywars9000 on Dec 30, 2010, 04:08 AM
I heard some samples of Eros and i must say i'm a little dissapointed.
I found it by accident and now i know why they don't want to '
Are you sure you didn't get rik roll'd
Quote from: bodywars9000 on Dec 30, 2010, 04:08 AM
I heard some samples of Eros and i must say i'm a little dissapointed.
I found it by accident and now i know why they don't want to release it.....
:(
where did you hear these samples?
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Dec 30, 2010, 04:39 AM
Quote from: bodywars9000 on Dec 30, 2010, 04:08 AM
I heard some samples of Eros and i must say i'm a little dissapointed.
I found it by accident and now i know why they don't want to '
Are you sure you didn't get rik roll'd
I don't know what that is.
No, it was mostly electronic, i think. Chino had a different effect on his voice, and in the chorus he was saying something like
"Never gonna give you up, never gonna something something etc."
It's not that it's "bad" perse', just not what i was expecting.
Also the video was lame, it was basically the same exact thing as the Mein video, except the editing was way different, and it was way cooler than Mein. Then he said "never gonna mess around, and desert you" or something like that.
All in all, it was still better than anything from Diamond Ass.
What's cool is, like i said, i found it COMPLETELY by accident. I'm really surprised no one else has seen this yet.
If you guys are interested, lemme know and i'll post the link.
interested
+2
Wow really?
yes -___-
Here ya go:
www.lemonparty.org (http://www.lemonparty.org)
Have fun!
i aint even mad :).......
i actually cant take another eros joke anymore
well i have some search results...and its not ''eros leak'' it calls ''deftones 2009''
its some electronic shits (it must be abe and frank work only)
its only torrent, search it here
www.nobrain.dk (http://www.nobrain.dk)
Quote from: bodywars9000 on Dec 30, 2010, 06:19 AM
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Dec 30, 2010, 04:39 AM
Quote from: bodywars9000 on Dec 30, 2010, 04:08 AM
I heard some samples of Eros and i must say i'm a little dissapointed.
I found it by accident and now i know why they don't want to '
Are you sure you didn't get rik roll'd
I don't know what that is.
No, it was mostly electronic, i think. Chino had a different effect on his voice, and in the chorus he was saying something like
"Never gonna give you up, never gonna something something etc."
It's not that it's "bad" perse', just not what i was expecting.
Also the video was lame, it was basically the same exact thing as the Mein video, except the editing was way different, and it was way cooler than Mein. Then he said "never gonna mess around, and desert you" or something like that.
All in all, it was still better than anything from Diamond Ass.
What's cool is, like i said, i found it COMPLETELY by accident. I'm really surprised no one else has seen this yet.
If you guys are interested, lemme know and i'll post the link.
Hahahaha thank you, you just made my flu ridden day with that !
the member "dawg" posted this in the interview thread:
( www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf_OHw2gJJg&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf_OHw2gJJg&feature=player_embedded#)]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf_OHw2gJJg&feature=player_embedded[/url]
but since they talk a little about eros maybe it can be here too. if it's true that they were in the mixing stages of eros, that must mean the vocals were done? mixing is, if not the last, among the last part of making a record, and you don't mix unless everything is recorded?
(and abe looks a little surprised that eros hadn't leaked yet, he was abaout to say something but cut himself off ^^
Dudes! I just found a presumably leaked intro of a song from Eros.. im not sure, but from what I have heard it has a deftones feel to it.. sadly no voice.. just instrumental.. I will leave it here..
http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
posted before, was not eros
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 10, 2011, 01:03 PM
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 10, 2011, 01:03 PM
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
U smoking?!
Quote from: rehostia on Jan 10, 2011, 01:11 PM
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 10, 2011, 01:03 PM
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 10, 2011, 01:03 PM
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
U smoking?!
haha, if someone had said that sentence to me in everyday life i'd politely say 'yeah' having secretely not understood a word of it.
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 10, 2011, 01:03 PM
Maybe this will never be released. We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
You mean that chino scrapped eros because he likes Weezer? "sorry warner,sorry bandmates... i won't put eros out.. it's a great record but i'm gonna do like weezer cuz i like their music" ???
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.
What's with the "Chino is a fan" thing then
n/m
n/m
Yeah I suppose I am. Just in a bad mood this morning I guess.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 03:04 PM
Yeah I suppose I am. Just in a bad mood this morning I guess.
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I get the impression that the band have now collectively moved on from Eros, I remember being at a London gig shortly before deftones released diamond eyes and chino was telling the crowd how hyped he was at the thought of being able to start playing tracks off diamond eyes live. No mention at all to Eros, almost like they were happy to wash their hands with it, comes across to me thet they don't necessarily think much of it
In early 2010, I think it makes a little sense that they were thrilled and looked forward to be playing the latest material they just finished. It would be a little strange if they would stand and talk/put energy and focus on the material they put aside in 2008-2009 (eros), when it was album releasing times round the corner (de). but they don't seem so proud of eros. mostly steph who seem to like it and want to get it out to people.
they will probably never release eros like "this is us" but more like like garage days "this is what we were back then" kind of deal. I think it will be out someday, but years from now.Can't ever see them tour it :(
my guess is if we ever hear eros it will be a leak, maybe on purpose by them. that way fans can hear it yet they can still say it's not an official album if they're not 100% happy with it, and continue not playing the songs live. if Chi gets to where he can play again they might actually release it for real. who knows. a leak seems like the only way we'll hear it anytime in the next few years
I heard in an interview that they were really surprised that Eros wasn't out there yet. Even them think it will be leaked, you know, so I guess it will happen.
it is pretty amazing it hasn't leaked yet
I assumed that because it hasn't leaked yet, the people who worked on it are pretty careful with it, very high sequrity and so on.that so far, it has been in the right hands, small number of people working on it who have access to it.and now almost locked in a vault. One can think: "If it's been 2.5 years and nothing has happened this far, it's at a safe place, and the years can continue to go by'without anything happening..... but when abe sits and show a lot of astonishment that eros hasn't leaked yet, one has to reconsider
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 10, 2011, 10:07 PM
In early 2010, I think it makes a little sense that they were thrilled and looked forward to be playing the latest material they just finished. It would be a little strange if they would stand and talk/put energy and focus on the material they put aside in 2008-2009 (eros), when it was album releasing times round the corner (de). but they don't seem so proud of eros. mostly steph who seem to like it and want to get it out to people.
they will probably never release eros like "this is us" but more like like garage days "this is what we were back then" kind of deal. I think it will be out someday, but years from now.Can't ever see them tour it :(
pretty much this although it should leak eventually. the way things have been going though, it looks like it's been under lock and key and will be a while before any of us get to hear it, leaked or otherwise.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.
This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered
Say It Aint So live.
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.
This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.
as well as holiday, tired of sex, in the garage and probably some others. i wish they'd bust out one of those these days.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 11, 2011, 01:39 AM
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.
This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.
as well as holiday, tired of sex, in the garage and probably some others. i wish they'd bust out one of those these days.
Same, I'd love to hear a few studio versions if they exist. I had no idea they covered
Tired of Sex, one of Weezer's best
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:44 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 11, 2011, 01:39 AM
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 10, 2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah it's stupid but I think he was more or less just drawing a comparison between the two albums. People here take things people say WAY too literally.
This guys got the idea, it's a comparison... The album itself will draw a cult following like Weezer's unreleased album. I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.
as well as holiday, tired of sex, in the garage and probably some others. i wish they'd bust out one of those these days.
Same, I'd love to hear a few studio versions if they exist. I had no idea they covered Tired of Sex, one of Weezer's best
no studio versions sadly but i'm fairly sure you can find them all live on youtube.
here's tired of sex.
Deftones - Tired of Sex / Engine No. 9(live) 9/11/97 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRO7hgmdYzQ#)
It is clear they won't be touring Eros. Diamond Eyes has another 12/18 months of touring which would mean Eros would be approx 4 years old once the current touring cycle is complete.
I would release it digitally with all Chi's proceeds going to his medical costs.
Aim for digital 'sign-ups' asking for $10 each. Once total sign-ups reach a set number (say 100,000) everyone gets a download link valid for one download each in FLAC/WAV/MP3/AAC format. If it is leaked after that at least they will have raised some serious cash.
Although the fact we all want to hear it doesn't necessarily mean we ever will :( :'(
I'm not going to give up on Eros. If Chi gets better and to the point he could play again I think we'd see it then. If he doesn't...I think the label will release it after the band is done with. You know, just to make a few more bucks off the band. Worst case scenario they'll release it the day after I die. If that's the case I wouldn't blame you if you wished death on me.
I understand the comparison to some extent. What i don't understand is this:
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 10, 2011, 01:03 PM
We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.
It insinuates that chino/deftones have acted as they did with eros, because of how weezer acted with their record. That deftones are such big fans that they do whatever weezer does in a case like this, not matter what costs, no matter if it's good or bad for deftones. It's weird.
Deftones - Eros leaked.....
imagine it..
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jan 11, 2011, 12:30 PM
Deftones - Eros leaked.....
imagine it..
I know that i would prefer to see full version, finished, but can't say i wouldn't be happy if the leak happens
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 11, 2011, 11:41 AM
I understand the comparison to some extent. What i don't understand is this:
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 10, 2011, 01:03 PM
We know Chino is a fan of Weezer, Eros may just be the Deftones Songs from the Black Hole (The album Weezer scraped in turn for Pinkerton)
Quote from: davetonez on Jan 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
I just thought it was interesting to mention due to Chino liking Weezer, hell they've covered Say It Aint So live.
It insinuates that chino/deftones have acted as they did with eros, because of how weezer acted with their record. That deftones are such big fans that they do whatever weezer does in a case like this, not matter what costs, no matter if it's good or bad for deftones. It's weird.
Eh, sometimes it's hard getting an idea across online. I didn't want it to come across as that's why the album hasn't been released yet... That'd be stupid.
I don't think it's realistic that Weezer has anything to do with this. It wouldn't get past the rest of the band, especially Stephen. It is solely because of Chi's situation. New topic please. 10,000,000 pleases actually..... ;D
Quote from: defsteve on Jan 11, 2011, 03:10 AM
It is clear they won't be touring Eros. Diamond Eyes has another 12/18 months of touring which would mean Eros would be approx 4 years old once the current touring cycle is complete.
I would release it digitally with all Chi's proceeds going to his medical costs.
Aim for digital 'sign-ups' asking for $10 each. Once total sign-ups reach a set number (say 100,000) everyone gets a download link valid for one download each in FLAC/WAV/MP3/AAC format. If it is leaked after that at least they will have raised some serious cash.
Although the fact we all want to hear it doesn't necessarily mean we ever will :( :'(
Good point. I like this idea and would think they have or will toss this around. Better than a leak, I would rather pay $10 to Chi's cause than get a leaked version that probably sounds like shiiiiit.
I know it's very unlikely at this point but I trawl the net almost every day hoping to find some info as to when Eros will be released.
I know they're probably waiting for Chi to make a recovery first but I think now or even the next year or so would be a great time to release it.
It would bring more attention to Chi's plight and it would be great if the proceeds could go towards Chi's medical bills - I'm sure he sorely needs the money at this point in time.
I'm sure there'd be a lot less illegal downloading with this album and a lot more sales because people would be wanting to give something towards Chi's recovery.What a great thing it would be - to be able to say thank you to Chi for all the wonderful music he has given us, music that has changed a lot of our lives.It's not always easy for people like me, who live outside the states and don't have a credit card to give something towards Chi but if Eros was available as a CD I'd go out and buy it straight away ........ and one copy just wouldn't be enough!
Of course the only thing I don't like about the Tones is the length of time it takes them to put out a new album. Waiting 3 years is always so painful!
So from a selfish point of view it would be so good to be able to wrap my ears around some new Deftones material, before the usual 3 year wait is up!
I'm sure Chi would be proud of them, whatever they decide to do.
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 23, 2011, 10:08 PM
So from a selfish point of view it would be so good to be able to wrap my ears around some new Deftones material, before the usual 3 year wait is up!
I'm sure Chi would be proud of them, whatever they decide to do.
And no matter if it's old music or renewed music, i'd love to hear some new Deftones material and at the same time helping Chi, if they put it as digital or physical album
Quote from: defTHE1s on Jan 26, 2011, 04:16 AM
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 23, 2011, 10:08 PM
So from a selfish point of view it would be so good to be able to wrap my ears around some new Deftones material, before the usual 3 year wait is up!
I'm sure Chi would be proud of them, whatever they decide to do.
And no matter if it's old music or renewed music, i'd love to hear some new Deftones material and at the same time helping Chi, if they put it as digital or physical album
Kinda lazy right now to scroll down where this originated from but there is an interview posted where Chino n Serge say they are writing for a new album after the tour or during? Maybe you've seen it by now, just helping out brothers.
I changed my mind. We'll never get Eros.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 27, 2011, 06:01 AM
I changed my mind. We'll never get Eros.
V, I sure hope you are not as influential to this idea as I think u may be buddy. lol! I would love to hear it as well but you are right, I'm afraid. I'm over it, but can't get away from this topic for the life of me. I'm starting to get more excited about the next record than Eros anyways, after we heard about them writing soon straight from the horse's mouth. It's all good, because if it depends on Chi's well-being, so be it. It's only right after all (I believe, now) and drives more hope into me that he wakes up and tours Eros properly. Let's just be excited for the next record and elaborate on our ideas of what we picture this next one to be like. It's exciting especially to wonder because they evolve and write every record differently from the rest, right? GYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 27, 2011, 06:47 AMV, I sure hope you are not as influential to this idea as I think u may be buddy. lol!
Haha...
I hope I'm wrong, man, believe me, I do with all the ventricles of my red beating thing, but let's just be realistic for a second...
The label controls the band's music that gets released. The Deftones compose the music they want to compose but, the music that gets out there is not up to them. WMG doesn't like Eros. Fact. They won't release it. They will not.
The only hope is a leak in a couple of years, but I hardly believe in that too.
so eros is like entertain me then. both will never be seen.
Quote from: ponyx on Jan 27, 2011, 07:01 AM
so eros is like entertain me then. both will never be seen.
Just like I commented on that Big Day Out interview, Eros is gonna be the " Entertain Me Affair " number 2.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 27, 2011, 06:56 AM
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 27, 2011, 06:47 AMV, I sure hope you are not as influential to this idea as I think u may be buddy. lol!
Haha...
I hope I'm wrong, man, believe me, I do with all the ventricles of my red beating thing, but let's just be realistic for a second...
The label controls the band's music that gets released. The Deftones compose the music they want to compose but, the music that gets out there is not up to them. WMG doesn't like Eros. Fact. They won't release it. They will not.
The only hope is a leak in a couple of years, but I hardly believe in that too.
Didn't know WMG didn't like it. Makes me love it already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I believe they only have 1 left with WMG which if possible they could find a label other than them and that could be the only possibility. But yeah, by then,,,,,,,, years from now...... long gone (frowns)
i really hope we all hear it someday, but i'm gonna try not to think about it much. drives me nuts knowing they have a whole album i haven't heard, it reall does. at least they're starting another one soon. but i'll always wonder about eros. how could you not?
IN other words: I really really hope so, but I don't think so? (c)
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 27, 2011, 06:56 AM
The label controls the band's music that gets released. The Deftones compose the music they want to compose but, the music that gets out there is not up to them. WMG doesn't like Eros. Fact. They won't release it. They will not.
The only hope is a leak in a couple of years, but I hardly believe in that too.
good post. not because i like what it says, but because you see things with sober eyes. someone who lives in reality.
I'm sorry, but ever so often i find it a bit too much here with the "deftones release eros when chi wakes up and then go on tour around the world "
deftones don't have the final say on their releases and chi's not sleeping like a sweet little lamb and then wake up all refreshed like after a long sleep.
unfortunately he's been severely damaged in the brain in the accident and when/if he comes to total consciousness, he will certainly not play again.
You can call me an idiot for stating the obvious now and then say how right i was in a couple of years
now i believe Eros is not even exist
Quote from: pony_01 on Jan 27, 2011, 01:43 PM
now i believe Eros is not even exist
i'd rather believe that then know it does exist and not got to hear it
I actually don't think that's going to be released for a long time... It will be one of those records that bands release long after they have stoped playing.
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 27, 2011, 01:06 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 27, 2011, 06:56 AM
The label controls the band's music that gets released. The Deftones compose the music they want to compose but, the music that gets out there is not up to them. WMG doesn't like Eros. Fact. They won't release it. They will not.
The only hope is a leak in a couple of years, but I hardly believe in that too.
good post. not because i like what it says, but because you see things with sober eyes. someone who lives in reality.
I'm sorry, but ever so often i find it a bit too much here with the "deftones release eros when chi wakes up and then go on tour around the world "
deftones don't have the final say on their releases and chi's not sleeping like a sweet little lamb and then wake up all refreshed like after a long sleep.
unfortunately he's been severely damaged in the brain in the accident and when/if he comes to total consciousness, he will certainly not play again.
You can call me an idiot for stating the obvious now and then say how right i was in a couple of years
Like I said, if you missed it, let's just be excited for the next one (and move on). Nothing wrong with having a little hope for Chi's situation while I am very aware of his condition. I meant (obviously) that if it were to be heard that the proper way to do it would be with Chi, on tour. I'm not Mark Twain. Didn't say it would happen ever, in fact. Get over people stating what they want to state, and don't hate, lol I made it clear enough that it would be a perfect world if that happened, that's all man. You should tell the band you find it a little too much as well bc hell, they said it first right? I don't think you're an idiot but I do think you're a bit too cynical sometimes. Peace to you, no disrespect coming from me
well maybe its going to be like Nirvana's "You Know You're Right" song. released several years after Cobain's death
Should I kill Chino now, then ?
My bad. Shit happens :o
i think vesanics response was to pony 01 and what i wrote was comment on a certain kind of blue eyed mentality that occurs every now and then around here. i wasn't talking about you, i don't even know if you're one of them. not every post being made here is about you. maybe you think it should, but it's not ;)
It's cool. Really. :) Wasn't talking at V, you just accurately replied to what I had to say IMO that's all. And I normally don't post anything bc of crap like that, so being an attention whore wouldn't suit me anyways ;) I'm not really a confrontational person either, so this isn't working for me, let it go already. Be cool and keep the smartass business to yourself.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 28, 2011, 08:24 AM
Should I kill Chino now, then ?
i think its better to wait. ;)
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 28, 2011, 08:24 AM
Should I kill Chino now, then ?
wait a bit for that vesanic, also nice girl pic.
It leaked.
my suggestion is that you write a little more what you know ^^ if it's true, then im a little bit sad.. they should have released it and made a buck out of it.for themselves and chi =(
Haha, I thought it was funny. Sorry.
For the recall, Eros is not even finished.
Quote from: Vesanic on Feb 06, 2011, 10:26 AM
Haha, I thought it was funny. Sorry.
For the recall, Eros is not even finished.
yes i agree it was hiliarious. and it depends on who's interviewd.. it's not finished according to chino and steph, but frank said it was finished in an interview and abe said they're were mixing it which is something they do in the final stages of making a record. once again: who knows
Haha.
Well I'm quite sure there are still some vocals to add.
depends on who you choose to believe. it may be like chino says but he's also the biggest liar in the band. hard to tell
what i've gathered from all the things they've said is the music is done, vocals are most of the way done with a couple songs left to finish and they'd started mixing the finished tracks (though that seems weird to do when theres still songs to finish) but yeah. this is purely speculation and i'm drawing my own conclusions. even still, i don't think we'll be hearing any of it for a long time yet.
if we for one second assume that everyone in the band speaks the truth about eros,like you do, then your description is the only one that would get it all together. but i I would guess that they usually mix the material when everything is recorded.when you have an overview of the whole record
Fellas, fellas, play Diamond Eyes backwards and you get Eros.
Close thread, n00bz.
:) i did and it really sounds unorthodox like they said
;D WOW :-X
I have a feeling they may scrap eros or put it out till the very end or something. the mood in the band is happy, the energy is strong and they're already looking ahead by thinking of writing a new album. They wont revisit those sad songs anytime soon
Fkit!!! Someone, just clean up Melanie n call it a day please.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Feb 15, 2011, 08:33 AM
Fkit!!! Someone, just clean up Melanie n call it a day please.
i think someone remastered it in the deftones download and request thread. it's still pretty low quality but it's a noticeable difference. if nobody has put it up for you by the time i get home from work i'll upload it.
hey, thanx. I may have it but maybe not...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ALE954UT (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ALE954UT)
there ya go.
Not to beat a dead horse to death, but I think we'll get to hear Eros eventually. Obviously, I doubt that Deftones have any aspirations of releasing this material as a commercialized, full length album. I believe they'll release it offhandedly one day, unless they are motivated to re-work some of the songs and craft them into a fresh release.
In all honesty, I cannot even fathom Deftones having an album off to the side and us, as fans, never being able to hear it. It hurts too much to think about.
Every time I see someone post in this thread I pray that it's about Eros leaking. No such luck.
Quote from: Inkblades on Feb 21, 2011, 03:32 AM
Every time I see someone post in this thread I pray that it's about Eros leaking. No such luck.
yeah seriously, where the fuck is my hidden album!!!!
I've devoted enough into this band, how can they withhold material from me..
Quote from: Inkblades on Feb 21, 2011, 03:32 AM
Every time I see someone post in this thread I pray that it's about Eros leaking. No such luck.
I think everyone on this board feels that way.
Quote from: JVell on Feb 20, 2011, 10:34 PM
Not to beat a dead horse to death, but I think we'll get to hear Eros eventually. Obviously, I doubt that Deftones have any aspirations of releasing this material as a commercialized, full length album. I believe they'll release it offhandedly one day, unless they are motivated to re-work some of the songs and craft them into a fresh release.
In all honesty, I cannot even fathom Deftones having an album off to the side and us, as fans, never being able to hear it. It hurts too much to think about.
I agree with u, some of the songs will be re-written. I was listening to melanie and realized how weak the lyrics are compared to what Chino wrote in Diamond eyes. In the right mind-set, they'll turn those songs around
Quote from: juvenile on Feb 28, 2011, 12:08 AM
Quote from: JVell on Feb 20, 2011, 10:34 PM
Not to beat a dead horse to death, but I think we'll get to hear Eros eventually. Obviously, I doubt that Deftones have any aspirations of releasing this material as a commercialized, full length album. I believe they'll release it offhandedly one day, unless they are motivated to re-work some of the songs and craft them into a fresh release.
In all honesty, I cannot even fathom Deftones having an album off to the side and us, as fans, never being able to hear it. It hurts too much to think about.
I agree with u, some of the songs will be re-written. I was listening to melanie and realized how weak the lyrics are compared to what Chino wrote in Diamond eyes. In the right mind-set, they'll turn those songs around
i was more intrigued with melanie than i was with about 25% of the DE stuff. don't get me wrong, i love DE but melanie is a perfect example of the mood i felt was missing on that record. i miss the eratic, abrasive deftones a bit. still though i'm extremely happy with what we've got already and look forward to eventually loving eros, re-worked or not.
i dont think we'll ever hear it, but thats just me.
I think Chino's really amping up the fact that we may hear Eros one day,
but I really think it'll be a long, long time from now. But, on the bright side, they're starting a brand new record very, very soon, according to an interview he had at the Big Day Out 2011 show.
Quote from: NotebookLives. on Mar 07, 2011, 03:22 AM
I think Chino's really amping up the fact that we may hear Eros one day,
but I really think it'll be a long, long time from now. But, on the bright side, they're starting a brand new record very, very soon, according to an interview he had at the Big Day Out 2011 show.
Link?
I doubt they're done touring for Diamond Eyes yet? They barely even toured NA yet.
Quote from: iceache on Mar 07, 2011, 04:27 AMLink?
I doubt they're done touring for Diamond Eyes yet? They barely even toured NA yet.
Deftones talk about eventual new record and Big Day Out - Auckland, January 21st 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDQnz0-0gE#ws)
Quote from: Inkblades on Feb 21, 2011, 03:32 AM
Every time I see someone post in this thread I pray that it's about Eros leaking. No such luck.
same here!
Eros will never leak. the record label doesnt even have the final mastered recordings, in fact that doesnt even exist. the only way we can get that recording is for someone to infiltrate the cabinet or computer that its hidden in or as Juan (deftones assistant) to leak a copy for us!!
I wonder how much Juan would do it for?Imagine we all chip in 10 bucks for Juan to do it!
Not that I'm saying i dont want it to leak, it'll very unlikely.
Quote from: juvenile on Mar 08, 2011, 02:18 AM
Eros will never leak. the record label doesnt even have the final mastered recordings, in fact that doesnt even exist. the only way we can get that recording is for someone to infiltrate the cabinet or computer that its hidden in or as Juan (deftones assistant) to leak a copy for us!!
I wonder how much Juan would do it for?Imagine we all chip in 10 bucks for Juan to do it!
Not that I'm saying i dont want it to leak, it'll very unlikely.
LIAR!!!! :-\
Quote from: sing blue silver on Feb 28, 2011, 12:25 AM
Quote from: juvenile on Feb 28, 2011, 12:08 AM
Quote from: JVell on Feb 20, 2011, 10:34 PM
Not to beat a dead horse to death, but I think we'll get to hear Eros eventually. Obviously, I doubt that Deftones have any aspirations of releasing this material as a commercialized, full length album. I believe they'll release it offhandedly one day, unless they are motivated to re-work some of the songs and craft them into a fresh release.
In all honesty, I cannot even fathom Deftones having an album off to the side and us, as fans, never being able to hear it. It hurts too much to think about.
I agree with u, some of the songs will be re-written. I was listening to melanie and realized how weak the lyrics are compared to what Chino wrote in Diamond eyes. In the right mind-set, they'll turn those songs around
I hope they keep what they have because a special thing about their records is the time period and the mindset they are in (like they have said) that's why every record evolves and is unique from the rest. Especially since I don't think they should change a thing they did with Chi. It could be the last, you know? Let's just hope they write a new record at least aside from Eros....
i was more intrigued with melanie than i was with about 25% of the DE stuff. don't get me wrong, i love DE but melanie is a perfect example of the mood i felt was missing on that record. i miss the eratic, abrasive deftones a bit. still though i'm extremely happy with what we've got already and look forward to eventually loving eros, re-worked or not.
Quote from: Deadradio on Mar 07, 2011, 03:47 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Feb 21, 2011, 03:32 AM
Every time I see someone post in this thread I pray that it's about Eros leaking. No such luck.
same here!
In an interview from yesterday, when asked about Eros, Sergio stated:
"It's waiting for the right moment," he says. "I think right now it's unfairly attached to the incident with Chi. It's just circumstantial. It's not about that. I think that when there is a time where it can be seen as a piece for itself, then it will make more sense to put it out. And even better yet, if there's a chance that Chi could somehow be a part of it in some capacity at all, that would just be 100 times better."
http://consequenceofsound.net/2011/03/interview-sergio-vega-of-the-deftones/ (http://consequenceofsound.net/2011/03/interview-sergio-vega-of-the-deftones/)
"I think I'll keep the two first questions that I wrote, even the not-really-a-question with Eros.
As of now, lots of fans are convinced that we'll never get to hear Eros. Diamond Eyes had a huge, huge success and most of the fans were really impressed with that record, but there are still some people curious about Eros. Why don't you finally release it and, why not, use the benefits for Chi's family, who is currently struggling with the huge ft ees of his treatmen?"
I'm wondering the same thing,but hope that it's asked a little more humble. maybe it's a bit too much accusation, irritation, and attacking in the question.but unfortunately I think it will be a pre-formulated answer, not necessarily a straightforward answer if they will get that question.
In what way is that an accusation ? They have Eros, it's not finished, some people want to hear it, Chi needs money. Am I saying anything wrong ? No.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 01, 2011, 01:41 PM
In what way is that an accusation ? They have Eros, it's not finished, some people want to hear it, Chi needs money. Am I saying anything wrong ? No.
i want some inside information answers too just like you,not some floating nice answer that sound good in the media.It's just that it sounds "why haven't you released eros for the benefit of chi? what's wrong with you guys?? have some heart!" but that's just my interpretation.
did you see Stephen's reaction when he recently got a chance to comment on the fact that many think they've done too little for chi?
He was clearly annoyed. And if they get annoyd maybe they won't answer it properly like steph.
Quote from: from_musings on Apr 01, 2011, 01:46 PMdid you see Stephen's reaction when he recently got a chance to comment on the fact that many think they've done too little for chi?
I actually did not.
Well, that was totally unexpected, but...
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s_SswA0Jbw8/TH2Pt9ptPTI/AAAAAAAAAs8/IH1q-XX6xpw/s400/7c82a15d.jpg)
Tracklist:
Dallas (4'37)
XO (5'11)
Alisson (3'44)
Destiny (2'16)
Melanie (2'40)
Latex (3'57)
You ate it (4'01)
Firelegs (3'12)
Trempest (2'30)
Maya (5'36)
Download (320kbps MP3):
www.mediafire.com/?3ibw0om00jf (http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/april-fools.jpg)
Mind = blown.
AWEONAO!!
wuajjajajajajajaj OWNED!
wait. what?
I think I creamed my pants! "you ate it" fucking classic!!!!!!111
Oh wow, Vesanic, you... ugh, that, good sir, just made my day ;D
Will give the link to your post to a pal of mine now, with the words "oh fuck dude, stand up and take a seat again, you'll know why when you saw what's behind that link...", hihi.
You did. 8)
LOL!
the link doesn't work for me, just some picture with a guy pops up. anyone else with the same problem? guess melanie didn't make the final cut
nice one! :D
Quote from: from_musings on Apr 01, 2011, 04:35 PM
the link doesn't work for me, just some picture with a guy pops up. anyone else with the same problem? guess melanie didn't make the final cut
It did. Check the tracklist again.
This > Diamond Eyes
there it is! looking forward to the working link. is some of the songs early d.e songs??
wow nice track names
Nope. All different material. I dunno though, its kind of weird. Besides Melanie, some of this is a little too avant garde for me, personally.
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 01, 2011, 05:20 PM
Nope. All different material. I dunno though, its kind of weird. Besides Melanie, some of this is a little too avant garde for me, personally.
crazy talk, this is classic "tones, just listen to 'you ate it" Chino brings back his "The eeeeaaaarth" crooning back on this album
WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES.
>:(
I still like Diamond Eyes better.
:D
TROLLOLOLOLOL
(http://files.sharenator.com/U_Mad_Bro_RE_Do_you_have_to_have_the_last_word-s469x428-137106.jpg)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Apr 01, 2011, 09:43 PM
TROLLOLOLOLOL
(http://files.sharenator.com/U_Mad_Bro_RE_Do_you_have_to_have_the_last_word-s469x428-137106.jpg)
likes this.
Hey I got a question: Where did the name "Melanie" come from? I find it interesting that the band has never actually named the song, and I was never able to find any interviews or articles about the song that mention the title, so I was just wondering how that knowledge came about.
Came from a stripper
Was wondering why this thread was so popular out of nowhere. The things I would do for a copy of Eros.
I personally believe that Eros will be fucking awesome.
It will be infinitely better than Diamond Eyes and SNW.
Dark, romantic, agressive, chaotic.
it's their best album ever without us listening to it ever
indeed it is. expectations are running wild
the best album...eros
yeah
If White Pony and self-titled had a baby, Eros would murder that baby. That's how great it is.
You guys I'm sorry to say this but you are expecting wayyy too much, and I'd hate to see you guys put the album down and talk shit about it once it's out because it didn't succeed your expectations...I'm sure it'll be better than snw though, and maybe diamond eyes.
shut up you don't know what you're talking about death to the infidel
Quote from: skinnypuppy on Apr 09, 2011, 12:05 AM
shut up you don't know what you're talking about death to the infidel
lol
Eros is never happening.
Quote from: E-Money on Apr 09, 2011, 02:46 AM
Eros is never happening.
I thought I'd post my two cents here:
a day or two ago, when Steph arrived arrived to argentina, he was asked about Eros by somebody called Dan. Steph's response to its release date is: "It will come out when christ comes back to the earth. And we know that's never happening, hahaha"
It's not even a finished album unfortunately, and knowing whose work is missing I fear eros may never see the light of day. Maybe a few tracks on a strange situation. I'd like to hear the Myspace clip song, since they put it on the map, though.
I definitely agree with you on this, I hardly see it being released one day for these exact reasons.
We all know Chino said that he doesn't like to revisit old material because it belongs to a different mindset that was happening at the time.
Just see the song Bumble D, it was awesome as hell, but Chino just never find some lyrics at the time, and then never wanted to revisit it and complete it...
But we may see the finished songs released / leaked one day, who knows...
this band just sucks balls then, atleast learn to properly mix and master your music then, bring back terry
/rant
Quote from: Corleone on Apr 09, 2011, 04:20 AM
this band just sucks balls then, atleast learn to properly mix and master your music then, bring back terry
/rant
statement.
a few years back in a Frank Interview he said the album is finished and was in Post-Production. Maybe all that yeah it will come out and its on the back burner talk was because they didn't know how serious chi's condition was and how long it will last.
Quote from: lostpilot on Apr 08, 2011, 08:24 PM
I personally believe that Eros will be fucking awesome.
It will be infinitely better than Diamond Eyes and SNW.
Dark, romantic, agressive, chaotic.
Dark, romantic, aggressive, chaotic. PERFECT description of a flawless Deftones record bro.
I know, right?!
Point is that I don't think we will ever get that record :)
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Apr 08, 2011, 09:48 PM
If White Pony and self-titled had a baby, Eros would murder that baby. That's how great it is.
eros wld b that baby :o
Quote from: tarkil on Apr 09, 2011, 04:14 AM
I definitely agree with you on this, I hardly see it being released one day for these exact reasons.
We all know Chino said that he doesn't like to revisit old material because it belongs to a different mindset that was happening at the time.
Just see the song Bumble D, it was awesome as hell, but Chino just never find some lyrics at the time, and then never wanted to revisit it and complete it...
But we may see the finished songs released / leaked one day, who knows...
Tarkil, don't mean to get off the subject for a second but u mentioned Bumble D and I've never found a good version to download n have. U have anything? link? thnx in advance
I don't have anything with me, but if I remember correctly, there are some "correct" versions floating on youtube, look for Cactus club show 1997 there.
And there's no better version than that cause nothing was ever recorded in studio, it's just a live song they played a couple of times.
Quote from: tarkil on Apr 12, 2011, 12:57 AM
I don't have anything with me, but if I remember correctly, there are some "correct" versions floating on youtube, look for Cactus club show 1997 there.
And there's no better version than that cause nothing was ever recorded in studio, it's just a live song they played a couple of times.
Thanks man for replying so fast! Yeah, I will have to record that one. I was thinking that the studio rehearsal or the audio-only version were the only 2 worth anything. I had 2 Ipods full of everything in this world (literally, lol) stolen from my truck at a family gathering!!! Go figure, right? Some friends of friends of cousins is where it is narrowed down to are now (ironically, with me being an EARLY fan) are now Deftones' fans probably if they have any sense after eating and drinking from my family's earnings. I'm a sucka! I'm slowly trying to get everything back on a new one but I work 6 days 12 hrs a week and getting shit together for a wedding this fall. Nothing gonna stop me from getting these rarities back on my headphones, bro! Thanks again
hi friends, just want to know if anyone have some materials (i mean blog writings of chi and chino, pictures, song samples...) from deftonesinstudio.blogspot.com era?
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked
Quote from: juvenile on Apr 21, 2011, 01:49 AM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked
i believe the opposite. i think the need for reworking (since it was never really finished) will keep them from ever completing it and we'll never see it. maybe years down the line it'll surface somewhere but i'm not holding my breath.
The way they've described Eros is so perfect it is almost surreal to believe it is that way and that we'll hear it. We haven't had a record that was full of lengthy tracks that are just incredibly "jammy". I've longed for a record like that and hope that if they decide never to release Eros by the time they start writing the next, that they will consider writing like this again! They said it was deep, dark, and unorthodox. Just right, but probably too good to be true. I think I comment on this thread every time I jam out to Melanie. What a goo d song IMO. I would like to know the correct lyrics to this track to get an idea of what the rest of the record may be about, roughly....
Quote from: sing blue silver on Apr 21, 2011, 02:04 AM
Quote from: juvenile on Apr 21, 2011, 01:49 AM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked
i believe the opposite. i think the need for reworking (since it was never really finished) will keep them from ever completing it and we'll never see it. maybe years down the line it'll surface somewhere but i'm not holding my breath.
Contractually, aren't the obligated to do so? I was thinking, all the money that went into this record for production, mixing and recording will have to recovered somehow by the label. The label owns the rights of this album too so wouldn't they force the band to complete the record. I highly doubt they'd let an unfinished album just sit there after all the effort and money was put into it.
Quote from: juvenile on Apr 23, 2011, 09:39 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Apr 21, 2011, 02:04 AM
Quote from: juvenile on Apr 21, 2011, 01:49 AM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked
i believe the opposite. i think the need for reworking (since it was never really finished) will keep them from ever completing it and we'll never see it. maybe years down the line it'll surface somewhere but i'm not holding my breath.
Contractually, aren't the obligated to do so? I was thinking, all the money that went into this record for production, mixing and recording will have to recovered somehow by the label. The label owns the rights of this album too so wouldn't they force the band to complete the record. I highly doubt they'd let an unfinished album just sit there after all the effort and money was put into it.
No shit!, They wouldn't say it will be here one day or even talk about it at all if it weren't to be released. They would squash the questions all together,I would think. They say it is super special too with deep stuff as well. It'll be here, the glass is 3/4 full people. Quit shitting on our hopes and dreams, damn it! lol
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 23, 2011, 09:56 PM
Quote from: juvenile on Apr 23, 2011, 09:39 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Apr 21, 2011, 02:04 AM
Quote from: juvenile on Apr 21, 2011, 01:49 AM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked
i believe the opposite. i think the need for reworking (since it was never really finished) will keep them from ever completing it and we'll never see it. maybe years down the line it'll surface somewhere but i'm not holding my breath.
Contractually, aren't the obligated to do so? I was thinking, all the money that went into this record for production, mixing and recording will have to recovered somehow by the label. The label owns the rights of this album too so wouldn't they force the band to complete the record. I highly doubt they'd let an unfinished album just sit there after all the effort and money was put into it.
No shit!, They wouldn't say it will be here one day or even talk about it at all if it weren't to be released. They would squash the questions all together,I would think. They say it is super special too with deep stuff as well. It'll be here, the glass is 3/4 full people. Quit shitting on our hopes and dreams, damn it! lol
they used the little remaining studio time and money to make DE so technically the label got a return on their investment. this begs the question why they brought in a new producer and how that must have gone over with terry but from what i've read that seems to be the case.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Apr 24, 2011, 05:17 PM
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 23, 2011, 09:56 PM
Quote from: juvenile on Apr 23, 2011, 09:39 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Apr 21, 2011, 02:04 AM
Quote from: juvenile on Apr 21, 2011, 01:49 AM
eros will come out but i have a strong feeling it will be reworked
i believe the opposite. i think the need for reworking (since it was never really finished) will keep them from ever completing it and we'll never see it. maybe years down the line it'll surface somewhere but i'm not holding my breath.
Contractually, aren't the obligated to do so? I was thinking, all the money that went into this record for production, mixing and recording will have to recovered somehow by the label. The label owns the rights of this album too so wouldn't they force the band to complete the record. I highly doubt they'd let an unfinished album just sit there after all the effort and money was put into it.
No shit!, They wouldn't say it will be here one day or even talk about it at all if it weren't to be released. They would squash the questions all together,I would think. They say it is super special too with deep stuff as well. It'll be here, the glass is 3/4 full people. Quit shitting on our hopes and dreams, damn it! lol
they used the little remaining studio time and money to make DE so technically the label got a return on their investment. this begs the question why they brought in a new producer and how that must have gone over with terry but from what i've read that seems to be the case.
its safe to say maverick is well underway of recovering on Diamond Eyes, but Eros took a really long time, we're talking at least 2 years. If Diamond Eyes sales boom, then maverick can get really lucky.
I personally think the new producer brought a more positive aspect out of the band, rather than Terry Date who understands them really well and shapes up their music. I am not hating on him but change is always good :)
someday we'll get this album... and it will blow the roof... for now let's enjoy what we have...
So its safe to say we can expect EROS in the next 4-5 years maybe....
I actually imagine them putting out in around 10 years for some reason. I hope it's not the case but if they do make another album like they said, I'm with everyone else that said mid 2013, by the time they finish that whole era of touring etc will be around 2015. We the fans will be in the same situation we are now. Besides I doubt they'll do it until Chi recovers.
I hope I'm not right and we do get to hear the damn album sometime soon!
I think I got it...... They've expressed wanting to release an album "Radiohead style" online (pay your price) and it would fit Eros really well! I don't see it coming in a package saying "the long, anticipated, controversial record by the (old) Deftones" - on a silver sticker. Nope. They will bring it online probably an Itunes deal where you pay your price or they'll have a track by track fee or something like that. And it WILL be in the next couple of years or sooner. While THEY still feel relevant enough and on this great wave they are riding. No way will it be ten years from now when most wont give a fucking care in the world for it. It would b forgotten by most and leave a bad dent in their legacy. My opinion, maybe not yours.... oh well. Wait n see mofos!
Quote from: defsteve on Jan 11, 2011, 03:10 AM
It is clear they won't be touring Eros. Diamond Eyes has another 12/18 months of touring which would mean Eros would be approx 4 years old once the current touring cycle is complete.
I would release it digitally with all Chi's proceeds going to his medical costs.
Aim for digital 'sign-ups' asking for $10 each. Once total sign-ups reach a set number (say 100,000) everyone gets a download link valid for one download each in FLAC/WAV/MP3/AAC format. If it is leaked after that at least they will have raised some serious cash.
Although the fact we all want to hear it doesn't necessarily mean we ever will :( :'(
Still this.
Quote from: defsteve on May 07, 2011, 09:03 PM
Quote from: defsteve on Jan 11, 2011, 03:10 AM
It is clear they won't be touring Eros. Diamond Eyes has another 12/18 months of touring which would mean Eros would be approx 4 years old once the current touring cycle is complete.
I would release it digitally with all Chi's proceeds going to his medical costs.
Aim for digital 'sign-ups' asking for $10 each. Once total sign-ups reach a set number (say 100,000) everyone gets a download link valid for one download each in FLAC/WAV/MP3/AAC format. If it is leaked after that at least they will have raised some serious cash.
Although the fact we all want to hear it doesn't necessarily mean we ever will :( :'(
Still this.
pretty much what I was conveying as well, I think. U make a better point with the proceeds to Chi, that's the cherry on top. Nice
EROS= the lost cityof gold, El Dorado
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 01:49 PM
Quote from: Martin on Mar 23, 2010, 12:05 PM
I wouldn't say that, since everyone's about 'Diamond Eyes' it will be forgotten or that no-one gives a crap about 'Eros'.
Agreed, but Jacob said he couldn't believe that people were still talking about Eros now that we have Diamond Eyes, that deftones fans are never satisfied, etc.
It's not about being "Satisfied"... Deftones is like a sweet drug. We just can't get enough....
Quote from: honeybeewu on Jun 08, 2011, 09:14 PM
It's not about being "Satisfied"... Deftones is like a sweet drug. We just can't get enough....
Hehe, right.
From an interview given a bit before the Pomona show, which took place on June 15
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they've stopped saying "release it when chi comes back" in eros questions?
as i've been saying, well never hear it. on the off chance we ever do it won't be for a LONG time.
Ahh I hate how Eros was written during a dark period, even though its post-Saturday Night Wrist when the band was starting to shape up again..It will definitely come out but I am very sure it's going to be reworked once Chino decides to revisit that dark, unstructured jam of an album
Chi Cheng:
"We've been locked into the studio, as you know, and are finishing the drum tracks on a song tentatively called 'Trempest'. It's heavy as fuck with a shitload of groove and even though it's been driving me crazy as it runs through my insomniatic brain, I am really excited! I always say this shit, but I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty.The idea of finishing the album and getting out to play in front of y'all is a nice light at the end of my tunnel. We intend to tour extensively so don't fret."
:-\ wake up chi... please...
It's pretty safe to say they wont be releasing it for a long time, if ever. Like thy said in the interview Vesanic posted, they're not even thinking about it right now. They're touring, gonna be working on some new music soon, etc., so I dont think they'll ever think of any time as an appropriate one unless it's in the distant future wen they just finally think "fuck it, let's just release some unreleased music".
someone have the song samples from deftonesinstudio.blogspot.com era? back in the day, i remember chino moreno posted some of them, some short samples about what will eros taste like.. thank you...
Quote from: Redsun on Jun 27, 2011, 02:40 PM
Chi Cheng:
"We've been locked into the studio, as you know, and are finishing the drum tracks on a song tentatively called 'Trempest'. It's heavy as fuck with a shitload of groove and even though it's been driving me crazy as it runs through my insomniatic brain, I am really excited! I always say this shit, but I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty.The idea of finishing the album and getting out to play in front of y'all is a nice light at the end of my tunnel. We intend to tour extensively so don't fret."
:-\ wake up chi... please...
if it was chino i wouldnt belive it
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jun 28, 2011, 10:42 AM
Quote from: Redsun on Jun 27, 2011, 02:40 PM
Chi Cheng:
"We've been locked into the studio, as you know, and are finishing the drum tracks on a song tentatively called 'Trempest'. It's heavy as fuck with a shitload of groove and even though it's been driving me crazy as it runs through my insomniatic brain, I am really excited! I always say this shit, but I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty.The idea of finishing the album and getting out to play in front of y'all is a nice light at the end of my tunnel. We intend to tour extensively so don't fret."
:-\ wake up chi... please...
if it was chino i wouldnt belive it
chi jokes a lot too at times but who knows
I'd love for it to be released in physical format. I love being able to hold a CD in my hand and having a booklet with pictures and lyrics to look at. It appeals to the collector in me.
It would be great if they released a deluxe or limited edition with a big booklet with loads of pics of the band with Chi and of Chi himself and possibly with some funny or interesting stories of his time in the band.
I'd pay good money for something like that and it would be even better if they donated a share of each record to Chi's recovery.
It would also be a great way to get people who have heard of Chi's condition but have never heard Deftones, to buy their first Deftones album in the name of a good cause. Also people who do listen to Deftones but download their albums illegally, instead of paying money for them will now have a reason to actually buy the album or have their conscience suffer. Obviously the band and Chi would benefit so everyone wins.
I say release it now so that Chi can get some much needed money for his recovery. He worked hard and had a big input on this album so why should it sit there on the shelf when it could be bringing him some much needed money at a time when he needs it the most.
I agree with you. Chi, deftones, the record company would all benefit from a release of the record. +we fans get to hear the highly anticipated music. what forces,in not releasing it, would be bigger than that?
make the release a little more deluxe in terms of packeting and pictures but take out an excessive price for it. and go out with that one part of the money would go to chi, we are many who would buy it. one or two copies.release it in different colors and even on vinyl. spend 20% more than normal in doing it but charge 100% more. don't underestimate our love for deftones and chi. i think you're right- imagine a fan who would not buy this album, even a fan who normally doesn't buy their records. This time, surely many downloaders would feel forced to buy it. downloading the album without paying for it? their fan mark would be erased.
we, hearing the music, is secondary but I wonder how deftones themselves think about it. I can understand that they, after chi's accident, wait to begin with, wait to see what happens. maybe things could work out for themselves. but it's been quite some time now. time is ticking.
chino + others may not like the music on eros, how it represents them today, but how can that be more important than chi getting more help from a job he was part of. if some money from it can increase the chances of him getting better, why not do it? it's his life we're talking about
I hope that the reasons for having eros on the shelf now is bigger than what's been said in interviews. the answers, waiting for chi to wake up, was ok in the begnning, but now?
I do think Eros will be released one day. Just not anytime soon.
Eros must be release as a deluxe edition because about the situation the band have to make money with it
just to help their brother it's limpid ....
but for now what's the fuckin' bone why they don't release it!?
Quote from: chino17 on Jul 05, 2011, 05:57 PM
Eros must be release as a deluxe edition because about the situation the band have to make money with it
what if they release a regular eros cd, but also - a double eros cd with the regular disc + 1 disc with bonus material, maybe some films from the studio, a riff that didn't make it etc.one on vinyl and then.. the big eros box .. the packeting is shaped like a big greek god .. and you open the face to get the cd. you also get a eros poster with that box + a one love for chi t-shirt. it would cost a fortune, only for the die hards ^
and for those who just can't get enough of this era: the eros doll. also in the form of a greek god. it's when you open the top part of the skull you will get the disc,and the picture on the disc is a brain. when you press the nose on the doll it's a little speaker inside the mouth that says a greek saying about love. the're 10 pre-programmed sayings that goes around in order. there's also a small bit of brown hasch the butthole of the doll, always ready to be enjoyed while listening to the record to make it a special a eros trip.many of you will probably say" I quit playing with dolls when I was five" but this is a very special doll. can't believe it's not in the making
Quote from: from_musings on Jul 07, 2011, 03:31 PM
and for those who just can't get enough of this era: the eros doll. also in the form of a greek god. it's when you open the top part of the skull you will get the disc,and the picture on the disc is a brain. when you press the nose on the doll it's a little speaker inside the mouth that says a greek saying about love. the're 10 pre-programmed sayings that goes around in order. there's also a small bit of brown hasch the butthole of the doll, always ready to be enjoyed while listening to the record to make it a special a eros trip.many of you will probably say" I quit playing with dolls when I was five" but this is a very special doll. can't believe it's not in the making
Either you've completely lost it or we're getting way too far ahead of ourselves here. Unfortunately nothing's guaranteed regarding the
Eros era - not even a release of the music produced during that time. Speculate all you want, even about packaging and the promotional tactics surrounding the release, but chances are we'll never hear a thing from
Eros. Hopefully I am completely wrong. What a day that would be.
hey ! totally agree with you "from musings"
i'd like to see a second disc with the outtakes , videos in the studio and much more!
I think the band might just think that Eros is not good enough to release and don't want to risk popping the little bubble of good press that diamond eyes received, Eros might have very little relevance artistically to Diamond Eyes and thus doesnt offer a logical progression if it were to be relased now.
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Jul 07, 2011, 05:53 PM
I think the band might just think that Eros is not good enough to release and don't want to risk popping the little bubble of good press that diamond eyes received, Eros might have very little relevance artistically to Diamond Eyes and thus doesnt offer a logical progression if it were to be relased now.
I completely agree. I almost would rather not have it be released if the band isn't on board with it. The preferred direction I would hope they take is re-visit the
Eros material, use portions of that material that they still enjoy and incorporate this into a new full length album. From there, they could create a Collector's Edition and include a second disk of what the old
Eros release would have been like. Therefore, we get new material and die-hard fans are forced into a win-win situation.
I liked the "hash in the butthole of the doll" idea though... :-\
Can we still have it ?
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Quote from: wheresmysnare on Jul 07, 2011, 05:53 PM
I think the band might just think that Eros is not good enough to release and don't want to risk popping the little bubble of good press that diamond eyes received, Eros might have very little relevance artistically to Diamond Eyes and thus doesnt offer a logical progression if it were to be relased now.
yup, but the follow-up question is more interesting- is it an acceptable excuse from them to keep eros in the vault? if eros could give money to chi, is deftones pride and vanity and their view on the band, where it is now sonically, more important? what's important in life?
a hypothetical question or whatever (will not happen but to produce an eye-opener) what if the record company would go out and say that they want to release eros and give some money to chi from it.. if deftones would say "no it would ruin the buzz d.e is having" and "we do not feel like the music represents us today" a lot of fans would think they were selfish idiots. next after that - do they really have to answer a question like that to to make us react? isn't this what's already is at stake? (there's of course the option that the record company don't want to release eros)
Quote from: tarkil on Jul 08, 2011, 06:02 AM
I liked the "hash in the butthole of the doll" idea though... :-\
Can we still have it ?
I believe warner and toys r us are in the final process of the deal.
in stores pwetty soon
Quote from: from_musings on Jul 09, 2011, 01:37 PM
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Jul 07, 2011, 05:53 PM
I think the band might just think that Eros is not good enough to release and don't want to risk popping the little bubble of good press that diamond eyes received, Eros might have very little relevance artistically to Diamond Eyes and thus doesnt offer a logical progression if it were to be relased now.
yup, but the follow-up question is more interesting- is it an acceptable excuse from them to keep eros in the vault? if eros could give money to chi, is deftones pride and vanity and their view on the band, where it is now sonically, more important? what's important in life?
a hypothetical question or whatever (will not happen but to produce an eye-opener) what if the record company would go out and say that they want to release eros and give some money to chi from it.. if deftones would say "no it would ruin the buzz d.e is having" and "we do not feel like the music represents us today" a lot of fans would think they were selfish idiots. next after that - do they really have to answer a question like that to to make us react? isn't this what's already is at stake? (there's of course the option that the record company don't want to release eros)
Yeah good points, either way the decision rests with the record company, as they almost certainly contractually own the rights to Eros. I think the best thing to do (as i think has already been suggested here) would be to do a radiohead style release online with an option to donate to chi. This would be morally be the best way.... but then record companies don't really do morals...anyway it will get leaked eventually i'm sure.
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Jul 09, 2011, 02:40 PM
anyway it will get leaked eventually i'm sure.
maybe. but the only ones benefiting from a leak would be the stingy fans.i hope all involved in the making can get some earnings from the material. time money blood sweat beers and tears have been put into it (i think)
Eros was not finished (lyrically and vocally at least), and Chino cannot get back into the original mindset he was in when he was writing the lyrics to the tracks that he did do...
I am no longer keeping my hopes up for this material surfacing. It's pointless.
Depressing? Yes.
Suck it up fairy princess.
Quote from: Nebontha on Jul 19, 2011, 01:24 AM
Eros was not finished (lyrically and vocally at least), and Chino cannot get back into the original mindset he was in when he was writing the lyrics to the tracks that he did do...
I am no longer keeping my hopes up for this material surfacing. It's pointless.
Depressing? Yes.
Suck it up fairy princess.
From what i've read, the lyrics are done, they just have to be recorded.
Quote from: iceache on Jul 19, 2011, 02:00 AM
From what i've read, the lyrics are done, they just have to be recorded.
Might be, I don't know, but even in that case, he hasn't come up with a structure for these lyrics yet, and like Nebontha said, he cannot get back into the mindset he was in during the Eros days. With the finished songs and the songs he has to work on, Eros would sound like two different singers work on it. That would feel awkward, to me, but that's just me. It would be nice to hear the finished songs at least, that's the only thing I'm asking for...
Every band has tons of unfinished songs in their vaults. Faith No More had over 10 songs written for the Album of the Year LP and just needed lyrics and vocals and Mike Patton came in and threw them all out because he refused to record vocals on those songs, so they started from scratch. Trent reznor has stated he has over 30 unreleased songs for The Fragile (some with vocals, some just instrumentals) the Cure recorded over 30 songs for Disintegration--most will never see the light of day...If they really wanted it to come out they would "leak" it and not give a fuck what the record company thinks
QuoteEvery band has tons of unfinished songs in their vaults. Faith No More had over 10 songs written for the Album of the Year LP and just needed lyrics and vocals and Mike Patton came in and threw them all out because he refused to record vocals on those songs, so they started from scratch. Trent reznor has stated he has over 30 unreleased songs for The Fragile (some with vocals, some just instrumentals) the Cure recorded over 30 songs for Disintegration--most will never see the light of day...If they really wanted it to come out they would "leak" it and not give a fuck what the record company thinks
NO, they would NOT leak it! It's the last thing that Chi worked on! It really has NOTHING to do with the record company, it really all comes down to Chi being in his condition. They are not doing ANYTHING with Eros until they get a conscious decision from Chi.
Just a little correction: 19 songs were recorded for disintegration. Most of them went to the album & came as b-sides, and the rest (I think they were 3 or 4) were released in it's deluxe edition which came out Last year.
In the Case of Kiss me, about 14 songs were left out on the record and never surfaced. And I remember Robert telling they did a mamooth 33 song demo for the self titled record.
Isn't Beauty School a song that was in Eros?
Quote from: 100Modem on Jul 27, 2011, 06:37 PM
Isn't Beauty School a song that was in Eros?
nope
I've heard it wasn't either, but the opening guitar lines in beauty school do sound similar to the opening guitar lines in the "making-of" youtube video series of Eros. I don't know if they re-worked it or what
they just have a similar drum pattern.
its definitely rework..
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 28, 2011, 07:32 PM
its definitely rework..
No. For crying out loud, NONE of the material used for Eros was used or re-worked for Diamond Eyes. Eros' songs were never touched again since Chi's accident.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 29, 2011, 08:56 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 28, 2011, 07:32 PM
its definitely rework..
No. For crying out loud, NONE of the material used for Eros was used or re-worked for Diamond Eyes. Eros' songs were never touched again since Chi's accident.
i dont really believe with what Chino or the band said about EROS.. but finishing Diamond Eyes for less than a year?? with new new materials?? I dont think so. IMHO some songs or maybe one definitely a reworked. that's why the album finished so fast.
They maybe like
C: "hey abe i like this drum pattern, lets use this on a new song!"
A: "but thats from a song off from EROS, we cant do that"
C: "we're in the fucking deadline. do it!"
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 29, 2011, 09:15 AMfinishing Diamond Eyes for less than a year?? with new new materials?? I dont think so.
Ever heard of an album called " Around the Fur " that took just as much time to be finished ?
yeah pony 1 is right about one thing... never trust these guys. they don't say things to give us facts, they say things to look good
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 29, 2011, 08:56 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 28, 2011, 07:32 PM
its definitely rework..
No. For crying out loud, NONE of the material used for Eros was used or re-worked for Diamond Eyes. Eros' songs were never touched again since Chi's accident.
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 29, 2011, 09:15 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 29, 2011, 08:56 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 28, 2011, 07:32 PM
its definitely rework..
No. For crying out loud, NONE of the material used for Eros was used or re-worked for Diamond Eyes. Eros' songs were never touched again since Chi's accident.
i dont really believe with what Chino or the band said about EROS.. but finishing Diamond Eyes for less than a year?? with new new materials?? I dont think so. IMHO some songs or maybe one definitely a reworked. that's why the album finished so fast.
They maybe like
C: "hey abe i like this drum pattern, lets use this on a new song!"
A: "but thats from a song off from EROS, we cant do that"
C: "we're in the fucking deadline. do it!"
Gathering from interviews, Steph has mentioned that they went on a song a day and also said that if he write a song, he can finish it over a day. The producer had them on a fixed schedule writing and recording the songs plus and Chino didn't get too involved in the song writing as he used to. The other records took long because of their mindset, laziness, battling for song writing...
Around the fur was the same case, band wrote the music and chino wrote the lyrics and that took 4 months I believe? That was also because they were happy at the time.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 29, 2011, 08:56 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 28, 2011, 07:32 PM
its definitely rework..
No. For crying out loud, NONE of the material used for Eros was used or re-worked for Diamond Eyes. Eros' songs were never touched again since Chi's accident.
Yes that is true, no material from Eros has resurfaced on Diamond eyes. Maybe they stole the idea from that intro video but its not a rework
Quote from: TheyCallMeP on Jul 28, 2011, 02:19 PM
I've heard it wasn't either, but the opening guitar lines in beauty school do sound similar to the opening guitar lines in the "making-of" youtube video series of Eros. I don't know if they re-worked it or what
Yeah i think it was that video i saw too.
I'm definitely with Vesanic on this one.
The band stated in mumerous interviews that DE is completely new material and that nothing was taken from Eros.
Why would they lie about that and why is it so difficult to believe?
I think that with everything going on (most obviously Chi's accident) it was as they said therapeutic to make more music and then Sergio came in and introduced something new, the creativity began to flow and they were able to come up with an album much quicker than usual.
I'm sure Nick Raskulinecz helped speed things along nicely too. Don't get me wrong - I love Terry's production more than anything but I think Nick was needed at this point in time and being a new producer to the Tones or maybe just because of the way he works, he was able to get a lot out of them.
I read another interview which said that Stef was using the riff that became Rocket Skates as sort of a warm up exercise and Nick encouraged them to make a song out of it, so it sounds like he was the perfect producer to get things rollings.
I hear a slight similarity between Beauty School and the Eros clip intro but only in one small section of the intro of the drum pattern. The rest of the drum pattern and the riff is completely different IMO.
Of course we don't even know if the intro to the Eros clips was going to be on the Eros album anyway.
Personally I wish they'd just do whatever they still have to to get Eros finished, release it and give all the proceeds to Chi for his medical bills.
Sure it sounds honourable to wait for him to regain consciousness and it would be like a fairytale if they could release it when he's ready to tour with the band again but the reality is that the guy seriously needs
the money right right now.
I'm sure Eros would sell well. It could get a lot of publicity because of it's cause and people wouldn't download it instead of buying it for the sake of morals, so it could potentially mean a lot of money going Chi's way. I'd buy 3 copies if I knew the money was going to Chi.
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jul 30, 2011, 05:49 PM
I'm definitely with Vesanic on this one.
The band stated in mumerous interviews that DE is completely new material and that nothing was taken from Eros.
Why would they lie about that and why is it so difficult to believe?
I think that with everything going on (most obviously Chi's accident) it was as they said therapeutic to make more music and then Sergio came in and introduced something new, the creativity began to flow and they were able to come up with an album much quicker than usual.
I'm sure Nick Raskulinecz helped speed things along nicely too. Don't get me wrong - I love Terry's production more than anything but I think Nick was needed at this point in time and being a new producer to the Tones or maybe just because of the way he works, he was able to get a lot out of them.
I read another interview which said that Stef was using the riff that became Rocket Skates as sort of a warm up exercise and Nick encouraged them to make a song out of it, so it sounds like he was the perfect producer to get things rollings.
I hear a slight similarity between Beauty School and the Eros clip intro but only in one small section of the intro of the drum pattern. The rest of the drum pattern and the riff is completely different IMO.
Of course we don't even know if the intro to the Eros clips was going to be on the Eros album anyway.
Personally I wish they'd just do whatever they still have to to get Eros finished, release it and give all the proceeds to Chi for his medical bills.
Sure it sounds honourable to wait for him to regain consciousness and it would be like a fairytale if they could release it when he's ready to tour with the band again but the reality is that the guy seriously needs
the money right right now.
I'm sure Eros would sell well. It could get a lot of publicity because of it's cause and people wouldn't download it instead of buying it for the sake of morals, so it could potentially mean a lot of money going Chi's way. I'd buy 3 copies if I knew the money was going to Chi.
I would agree that the proceeds should go to Chi but unfortunately the record label will never let that happen. To them its just another stock waiting to get their return on. I have suggested that deftones re-record some of their old songs and sell those themselves. It would be a great way to market their revamped songs to new fans as well as be a great incentive to "purchase" the songs to help CHI. Plus I don't think the current label has copyrights over their old demos so legally they're allowed to do whatever they want with those songs. As for Eros, The amount of cash and time that was invested into it will just be another cost for Reprise/Warner Bros to recover.
Good point Juvenile.
What a pity though - I wish that the record company could forget about filling their pockets for a while and do what I suggested. I know it doesn't make business sense and as such will never happen but it would be a great act of humanity if they did and would be a nice way to say thanks to Chi for his contributions over the years. Probably as much chance as peace on earth
They don't have to worry about the record label anymore because they aren't on it.
Quote from: Inkblades on Jul 30, 2011, 08:56 PM
They don't have to worry about the record label anymore because they aren't on it.
Who owns the music then?
No leaks or anything of that sort from this album?
have Terry Date ever speak about EROS after Chi's accident??
the riff played in the eros videos is the same chord as beauty school (just the beginning of the song) but the notes are not played in the same order
so deftones fan musicians tell me what you think about that...
i often cover these two songs with my guitar
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jul 30, 2011, 05:49 PM
Why would they lie about that
because of varieties of ugly truths.for example, deftones see themselves as artists, but hate to say that they're bitches for a record company who has control over their music and actually owns it.and are ashamed of the way things go sometimes.
like what if the record company (which interfered a lot when snw was made) dismissed the unorthodox material on eros and came up with a proposal when chi ended up in a coma."we can give you money for a new bassplayer, but if so - we get you another producer who remakes these weird longs songs on eros, to short pop songs so we can make money here. and he will help you to finish the album with a couple new songs with the new bassplayer too just be sure the'yre easy listening. he will guide you through this but he's the boss now.no more fucking around. this is the dead line and here's the schedule, you're working 9-5 now" i'm not saying that it went down like that but im also saying that we don't know that it isn't some fucked up shit going on.deftones would never admit something of that nature. so getting all the 100% answers from deftones interviews is naive i think :)
Quote from: chino17 on Jul 31, 2011, 02:21 PM
the riff played in the eros videos is the same chord as beauty school (just the beginning of the song) but the notes are not played in the same order
so deftones fan musicians tell me what you think about that...
makes me think..if they reworked a riff on one song like this, how can we be 100% certain that they didn't reworked another eros riff too that ended up on diamond eyes? i'm not saying d.e is 50% eros songs, all i'm saying is that noone knows. not me, not the ones getting their facts from deftones either
Quote from: Electron§ on Jul 31, 2011, 10:36 AM
No leaks or anything of that sort from this album?
we have a live track called melaine and a studio track called chillers. melaine is alright, but chillers is amazing and breathtaking
+1 agree with you from_musings // i'm sure that beauty school is a reworked song , but we don't know for the rest of the album
melaine makes me think to rapture sometimes!
where we can find the song chillers?
ask vesanic but you better have some good shit to trade if you want this one
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.
is this legit???
http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)
yup, it's legit
like musing said, vesanic has it but he won't trade unless you got ultra rare bootlegs
Yeah I want your mother for that.
Skinnypuppy should trade Entertain Me.
Quote from: cEvin Key on Jul 31, 2011, 09:21 PM
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.
is this legit???
http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)
The style of the lyrics makes me think their going back to kind of an Adrenaline type sound. Exciting.
Though, "Melanie" to me sounds just.... generic. Not really a fan of it, but from what ive heard of the other stuff, sounds pretty good.
Take no offense, but to me this does not exist. Why are you special enough to have this track when vocals n shit aren't complete and it hasn't been discussed to my knowledge anyways...... like i said, I don't believe it and wont until u release a 5 second snippet, :-\ V, I know that if anyone had it here, it would be you - (respect). But I don't think so, I know u have heard a rehearsal jam from that record but not a studio track I and others would kill for.... :) Joke's on me right?????????
Quote from: Electron§ on Aug 01, 2011, 04:16 AM
Quote from: cEvin Key on Jul 31, 2011, 09:21 PM
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.
is this legit???
http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)
The style of the lyrics makes me think their going back to kind of an Adrenaline type sound. Exciting.
Though, "Melanie" to me sounds just.... generic. Not really a fan of it, but from what ive heard of the other stuff, sounds pretty good.
1) Those are some seriously old lyrics. You actually think Chino would write that as an adult?
2) How the fuck is Melanie generic?
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Aug 01, 2011, 05:54 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Aug 01, 2011, 04:16 AM
Quote from: cEvin Key on Jul 31, 2011, 09:21 PM
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.
is this legit???
http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)
The style of the lyrics makes me think their going back to kind of an Adrenaline type sound. Exciting.
Though, "Melanie" to me sounds just.... generic. Not really a fan of it, but from what ive heard of the other stuff, sounds pretty good.
1) Those are some seriously old lyrics. You actually think Chino would write that as an adult?
2) How the fuck is Melanie generic?
you're go, some very adult lyrics by Chino.
http://www.metrolyrics.com/rats-rats-rats-lyrics-deftones.html (http://www.metrolyrics.com/rats-rats-rats-lyrics-deftones.html)
I've never even heard of the track Chillers, when was it recorded? (07? 08? two months ago?) Why is there no information out on it?
Quote from: TheyCallMeP on Aug 01, 2011, 02:05 PM
I've never even heard of the track Chillers, when was it recorded? (07? 08? two months ago?) Why is there no information out on it?
Haha, that does it now. It's a joke. Someone once created a topic to know more about that song since they had come across that lyrics007 page. But obviously, the person who posted those lyrics wanted to fuck around or just don't know their shit. There's no way Chino would have written those lyrics.
so what the fuck! if this song exists ...vesanic tell us is it a good song?
i'd like to have opinions from musicians about beauty school riff and the one we can hear in the eros videos thanks // same chords
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I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.
is this legit???
http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)
The style of the lyrics makes me think their going back to kind of an Adrenaline type sound. Exciting.
Though, "Melanie" to me sounds just.... generic. Not really a fan of it, but from what ive heard of the other stuff, sounds pretty good.
1) Those are some seriously old lyrics. You actually think Chino would write that as an adult?
2) How the fuck is Melanie generic?
you're go, some very adult lyrics by Chino.
http://www.metrolyrics.com/rats-rats-rats-lyrics-deftones.html (http://www.metrolyrics.com/rats-rats-rats-lyrics-deftones.html)
So deep :')
Fuck fly ya sequel bitches!
Quote from: chino17 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:26 PM
so what the fuck! if this song exists ...vesanic tell us is it a good song?
It does not exist.
"Haha, that does it now. It's a joke. Someone once created a topic to know more about that song since they had come across that lyrics007 page."
You got me, I'll admit it haha. I was so confused that there were lyrics on google and everything but nothing mentioned here (except now) or anywhere else about the track. Well played
Quote from: TheyCallMeP on Aug 02, 2011, 09:54 AM
"Haha, that does it now. It's a joke. Someone once created a topic to know more about that song since they had come across that lyrics007 page."
You got me, I'll admit it haha. I was so confused that there were lyrics on google and everything but nothing mentioned here (except now) or anywhere else about the track. Well played
i thought Chillers is the one that heard-alike "Beauty School" :|
the lyrics is totally fake, it's like Fred Durst doing it.
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Aug 01, 2011, 05:54 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Aug 01, 2011, 04:16 AM
Quote from: cEvin Key on Jul 31, 2011, 09:21 PM
I never heard about chillers before.
But there's even lyrics for this all over the internet.
is this legit???
http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html (http://www.lyrics007.com/Deftones%20Lyrics/Chillers%20Lyrics.html)
The style of the lyrics makes me think their going back to kind of an Adrenaline type sound. Exciting.
Though, "Melanie" to me sounds just.... generic. Not really a fan of it, but from what ive heard of the other stuff, sounds pretty good.
1) Those are some seriously old lyrics. You actually think Chino would write that as an adult?
2) How the fuck is Melanie generic?
1. Well, due to some of the language in it, (EX: "Da snowboard" wtf) I had doubts.
2. I don't feel anything when i hear that song. It sounds forced to me. The rest of what ive heard though from the online clips, sounds epic.
Quote from: TheyCallMeP on Aug 02, 2011, 09:54 AM
"Haha, that does it now. It's a joke. Someone once created a topic to know more about that song since they had come across that lyrics007 page."
You got me, I'll admit it haha. I was so confused that there were lyrics on google and everything but nothing mentioned here (except now) or anywhere else about the track. Well played
Well just as you... i discovered... I HAD BEEN HAD!!!
Fact; Deftones have a lot of incredible things that will never get released.
Sad but true. But who knows? It took the Cure and Depeche Mode a career of 30+ years to finally release pretty much everything that ever existed. Maybe this will happen with Deftones too.
Though with that said, their self-image plays a big role and they don't want the masses to see Entertain Me or hear Eros. So that's that. I've heard that Chino eventually wants Eros out but not Entertain Me. Oh well.
fucking chino and his bad decisions
Quote from: skinnypuppy on Aug 10, 2011, 05:07 AM
Fact; Deftones have a lot of incredible things that will never get released.
Sad but true. But who knows? It took the Cure and Depeche Mode a career of 30+ years to finally release pretty much everything that ever existed. Maybe this will happen with Deftones too.
deftones are nowhere near as productive as cure and depeche. chino says this over and over, but i just use the crosses interview as source since it was the last time: "Chino: We pretty much got about 16 songs that we're working on (crosses), and that we've committed to the record.That's a lot for me. When The Deftones write a record, we write 12 songs, and we put 12 songs on the record."
i think we've heard most of their shit except eros
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.
Wasn't he also saying that when they were writing White Pony, they wrote a bunch of songs that sounded too much like Around the Fur so they scrapped them? I bet those songs WERE FUCKING INSANE.
Quote from: Electron§ on Aug 13, 2011, 03:46 AM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.
well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard
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Quote from: Electron§ on Aug 13, 2011, 03:46 AM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.
well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard
oh there's XO too from self-titled. Plus for saturday night wrist, if I read correctly, 16 songs were recorded but we've only heard 15; 12 from SNW, drive cover, jealous guy cover and Wax and wane cover. Im not sure if I am missing one
i know they got a lot of covers, i meant they're not as creative as depeche and cure in writing own stuff. playing other bands material isn't creative i think.i believe the few outtakes there are - we've heard most of them, i don't think there are like 20 outtakes to each record. why would chino say all the songs they make end up on record when in fact there are like 20 complete songs to each record finished somewhere? why lie about that? why didn't some of them make the rarities cd - just covers? may be covers and riffs we haven't heard, sure, but not real songs with vocals
I think by the whole we write and release 12 songs thing it probably means completed songs with chino's vocals and full production. No doubt the rest of the guys jam and write structures for countless songs but I wouldn't count them since they're unfinished. That method seems to have passed though. With diamond eyes we heard all the material except the one elusive b-side we'll never get to hear. The only things I can think of the guys have written completely and we haven't heard would be the Eros, the diamond eyes b side, scrapped material from white pony sessions (which were probably never actually finished) and scrapped songs / alternate versions from SNW. All I really want is Eros and I'm standing behind the statement I've made countless times, we will NEVER hear it.
that sounds about right. Maybe the songs on eros that are finished with vocals will see the light of the day sometime, like an ep or in a rarities collection when the band quit. but I too highly doubt that chino would record vocals on the unfinished tracks. Prob not gonna happen, and chances are that if they keep the complete stuff when chino sang in 2008, and mix those songs with chino singing like in 2013 – finishing the rest, we might hear 2 different chino's on one record and the cohesiveness would be way off. Like mixing adrenaline vocals with white pony vocals on one album. can't see this happen
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Quote from: Electron§ on Aug 13, 2011, 03:46 AM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.
well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard
oh there's XO too from self-titled. Plus for saturday night wrist, if I read correctly, 16 songs were recorded but we've only heard 15; 12 from SNW, drive cover, jealous guy cover and Wax and wane cover. Im not sure if I am missing one
There was a song meant for self titled called "XO" that wasnt released? I looked it up and all i got was "Black Moon" from B-Sides and Rarities.
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Quote from: juvenile on Aug 13, 2011, 05:04 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Aug 13, 2011, 09:12 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Aug 13, 2011, 03:46 AM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.
well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard
oh there's XO too from self-titled. Plus for saturday night wrist, if I read correctly, 16 songs were recorded but we've only heard 15; 12 from SNW, drive cover, jealous guy cover and Wax and wane cover. Im not sure if I am missing one
There was a song meant for self titled called "XO" that wasnt released? I looked it up and all i got was "Black Moon" from B-Sides and Rarities.
Yes, its a piano composed song by Chino (not FYIHYD) from self titled sessions but it never came out.
Source: sharinglungs.com
anyone still have that XO? i used to but i lost it.
Quote from: elite54 on Aug 18, 2011, 12:29 AM
anyone still have that XO? i used to but i lost it.
No one's ever had it.
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Quote from: from_musings on Aug 13, 2011, 09:12 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Aug 13, 2011, 03:46 AM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.
well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard
oh there's XO too from self-titled. Plus for saturday night wrist, if I read correctly, 16 songs were recorded but we've only heard 15; 12 from SNW, drive cover, jealous guy cover and Wax and wane cover. Im not sure if I am missing one
There was a song meant for self titled called "XO" that wasnt released? I looked it up and all i got was "Black Moon" from B-Sides and Rarities.
Yes, its a piano composed song by Chino (not FYIHYD) from self titled sessions but it never came out.
Source: sharinglungs.com
wasnt that white woman?
i must've just had it named xo. probably turned into fyihyd at some point.
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Quote from: elite54 on Aug 18, 2011, 12:29 AM
anyone still have that XO? i used to but i lost it.
No one's ever had it.
I think he meant is there anywhere we can listen to it now.
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/preview.ky1MaGOwkobOZjfe_500.jpg) ;D
Quote from: pony_01 on Aug 18, 2011, 10:36 AM
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/preview.ky1MaGOwkobOZjfe_500.jpg) ;D
IF ONLY IT WAS THAT EASY
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Quote from: iceache on Aug 18, 2011, 02:27 AM
Quote from: elite54 on Aug 18, 2011, 12:29 AM
anyone still have that XO? i used to but i lost it.
No one's ever had it.
I think he meant is there anywhere we can listen to it now.
If no one has ever had it. What do you think the answer to that is?
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Quote from: elite54 on Aug 18, 2011, 12:29 AM
anyone still have that XO? i used to but i lost it.
No one's ever had it.
I think he meant is there anywhere we can listen to it now.
If no one has ever had it. What do you think the answer to that is?
deftonesworld.com?
I vaguely remember hearing White Woman years ago.
I had no idea XO was a song... maybe it's a scratch track or something random to entice all us 'tones nerds. I know a few bands do that shit. Hell my old band did it.
I think it was in those 2007's tour videos Deftones used to post back then where you see Chino talking to the guy who's filming (I think it's Frank Gatto), and Chino mentions two piano songs which are FYIHYD and XO and says that he never released XO and probably never will.
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Quote from: from_musings on Aug 13, 2011, 09:12 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Aug 13, 2011, 03:46 AM
Well the amount of B-sides and demos says otherwise to them only writing twelve tracks per album.
well only crenshaw's punch's was an unreleased deftones song. that's 1/14 tracks which is purley deftones, the rest was covers and remakes. the few outtakes like lovers,crenshaw,god's hand i think we've already heard. one song we do know exist but haven't heard is the d.e outtake but i wouldn't say that's "tones of shit" we haven't heard
oh there's XO too from self-titled. Plus for saturday night wrist, if I read correctly, 16 songs were recorded but we've only heard 15; 12 from SNW, drive cover, jealous guy cover and Wax and wane cover. Im not sure if I am missing one
There was a song meant for self titled called "XO" that wasnt released? I looked it up and all i got was "Black Moon" from B-Sides and Rarities.
Yes, its a piano composed song by Chino (not FYIHYD) from self titled sessions but it never came out.
Source: sharinglungs.com
wasnt that white woman?
White Woman was the working title for Needles and Pins
Well ok guys, I think it's time to do something for y'all. I've kept this thing hidden 'cause the guy who gave me this told me to but I just have to share this with y'all, no matter what he's gonna say about that. It's XO, that other piano song. It was supposed to be re-worked and go on Eros but anyway, here's that piano thingie. Dark and depressive just like FYIHYD, you're gonna love it:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NQIJVW5 (http://www.lemonparty.org)
I don't find it really depressing actually !! I would even say that it puts a smile on my face... :)
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 19, 2011, 05:21 AM
Well ok guys, I think it's time to do something for y'all. I've kept this thing hidden 'cause the guy who gave me this told me to but I just have to share this with y'all, no matter what he's gonna say about that. It's XO, that other piano song. It was supposed to be re-worked and go on Eros but anyway, here's that piano thingie. Dark and depressive just like FYIHYD, you're gonna love it:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NQIJVW5 (http://www.lemonparty.org)
GAH! You got me!
But at least there was a hot chick taking her shirt off in the advertisement on the side lol
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 19, 2011, 05:21 AM
Well ok guys, I think it's time to do something for y'all. I've kept this thing hidden 'cause the guy who gave me this told me to but I just have to share this with y'all, no matter what he's gonna say about that. It's XO, that other piano song. It was supposed to be re-worked and go on Eros but anyway, here's that piano thingie. Dark and depressive just like FYIHYD, you're gonna love it:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1NQIJVW5 (http://www.lemonparty.org)
I took one look for less than a second and literally went blind.
Fuck V I fell for it again you asshole :|
IN the self-titled videos theres a piece of a song playing, before it goes into an introduction to a jam of hexagram in the studio......a file floats around with that piece by the name "XO"...
Quote from: juvenile on Aug 21, 2011, 06:46 AM
IN the self-titled videos theres a piece of a song playing, before it goes into an introduction to a jam of hexagram in the studio......a file floats around with that piece by the name "XO"...
Yeah but that's a mislabelling I'm pretty sure. I guess it's just a random jam thing by the boys. XO and FYIHYD are SNW process dated, I believe, so that wouldn't make sense.
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Quote from: juvenile on Aug 21, 2011, 06:46 AM
IN the self-titled videos theres a piece of a song playing, before it goes into an introduction to a jam of hexagram in the studio......a file floats around with that piece by the name "XO"...
Yeah but that's a mislabelling I'm pretty sure. I guess it's just a random jam thing by the boys. XO and FYIHYD are SNW process dated, I believe, so that wouldn't make sense.
Oh I was under the impression that XO was a self-titled outtake from I read here in the past. If what your saying is correct then that confirms what I said about a SNW interview. If I remember correctly, it was chino who mentioned they have written 16 songs for SNW, 12 for the main record, Jealous guy cover, drive cover and the wax and wane cover which adds up to 15 making XO the final 16th track.
I remember another one where abe said they would have to vote what songs will go on the record..ill try and dig those interviews up
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Quote from: pony_01 on Aug 18, 2011, 10:36 AM
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/preview.ky1MaGOwkobOZjfe_500.jpg) ;D
Hahahahahaha, good shit. Ranks after Robo buzz saw
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Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 21, 2011, 05:21 PM
Quote from: juvenile on Aug 21, 2011, 06:46 AM
IN the self-titled videos theres a piece of a song playing, before it goes into an introduction to a jam of hexagram in the studio......a file floats around with that piece by the name "XO"...
Yeah but that's a mislabelling I'm pretty sure. I guess it's just a random jam thing by the boys. XO and FYIHYD are SNW process dated, I believe, so that wouldn't make sense.
Oh I was under the impression that XO was a self-titled outtake from I read here in the past. If what your saying is correct then that confirms what I said about a SNW interview. If I remember correctly, it was chino who mentioned they have written 16 songs for SNW, 12 for the main record, Jealous guy cover, drive cover and the wax and wane cover which adds up to 15 making XO the final 16th track.
I remember another one where abe said they would have to vote what songs will go on the record..ill try and dig those interviews up
According to this interview by Abe in 2006 take from deftonesworld.com, http://www.deftonesworld.com/interview-deftones-mtv-2006.htm (http://www.deftonesworld.com/interview-deftones-mtv-2006.htm)
Ye old Saturday Night Wrist had 17 songs on completion, not 16:
"It's been over a year since the Deftones left Pink Floyd producer Bob Ezrin's snow-swathed home studio in Connecticut for the sun-drenched sands of balmy Malibu, California, where they've since re-examined, tweaked and re-recorded the material they'd managed to put to tape before the cold got the best of them. At this stage, Deftones have 17 songs on the verge of completion. Frontman - and perfectionist - Chino Moreno is still tracking vocals for the new tunes. "
We've only heard 15 and FYIHYD is during the SNW era as well so that leaves just one!
What about the Ezrin demos? There were a lot of songs there. Who knows if Chino ever even sang on any of the ones that didn't make it.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2011, 10:22 PM
What about the Ezrin demos? There were a lot of songs there. Who knows if Chino ever even sang on any of the ones that didn't make it.
Its possible, for example there's the Buffalo/FOD instrumental that Chino and Serj were suppose to work on but opted to work on Mein instead.
why is this still discussed?
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Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2011, 10:22 PM
What about the Ezrin demos? There were a lot of songs there. Who knows if Chino ever even sang on any of the ones that didn't make it.
Its possible, for example there's the Buffalo/FOD instrumental that Chino and Serj were suppose to work on but opted to work on Mein instead.
Most epicly stupid choice ever.
Quote from: XJohnnyX on Aug 23, 2011, 09:48 PM
why is this still discussed?
Because we want to hear and know about these songs.
in that interview with abe, which i remember, it says abe expects the album to have a dozen tracks (including one called "america"). does anyone know which one was going to be titled "america" and got the title changed or was it one of the demos? or of course there's a possibility none of us know.
pretty sure america is combat
I'm sure America is rats, I rember asking steph via a webstream.
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I'm sure America is rats, I rember asking steph via a webstream.
Correct.
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Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 21, 2011, 10:22 PM
What about the Ezrin demos? There were a lot of songs there. Who knows if Chino ever even sang on any of the ones that didn't make it.
Its possible, for example there's the Buffalo/FOD instrumental that Chino and Serj were suppose to work on but opted to work on Mein instead.
Most epicly stupid choice ever.
i love buffalo/fod and think leaving it out of snw was a really bad choice, but to have serj singing on this beautiful song with his awful goofy voice would totally ruin the song and the atmosphere on it. then i'm better off with no studio version at all. i'm glad he sang on mein insted
Wait, what ? I know System of a Down is not for everybody but don't tell me Serj Tankian is not a good vocalist, that's just plain dumb.
as you probably know,i didn't say he can't sing, just that i don't like his voice and style at all. for example, ther're skilled opera singers who can sing too, but that doesn't mean it sounds good to everyones ears. are you fine with anyone singing on a deftones record as long as they can sing?
You said he had a goofy voice, that's wrong. Yeah in a good part of SOAD songs he sings in a sarcastic ridiculous manner but that's on purpose, out of that he has a really lovely voice.
System Of A Down - Chop Suey! live (HD/DVD Quality) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GwQubYvI9A#ws)
Watch from 2:38 to 2:58, and especially at 2:44... If you don't like it, well, fine, and I admit that's not even how he sings now, he doesn't sound as good today, but can you really call that goofy ?
And I've never said I was okay with anyone singing on a Deftones song as long as they can sing ? No, I don't even know why you're bringing that up. Thinking for everyone as always, right ? :)
And the fact Serj is a good vocalist to me doesn't mean I think he would fit in a Deftones song. And I actually don't.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2011, 04:13 PM
he has a really lovely voice
that's as "wrong" as me saying he sounds goofy. just opinions. i think serj sounds goofy,silly when he sings -even when he tries to sound serious. awful to my ears, certainly wouldn't want that shit in buffalo.don't like the sound of his voice even if he can hit notes.goofy doesn't mean that he can't sing - like justin hawkins in darkness, he can sing too but it sounds goofy
i don't really think serj is a good singer at all but i love SOAD and i love his voice as part of SOAD... his solo stuff is garbage. i think he'd have done well with a bigger part in mein. my real gripe with him in that song is its only 5 fucking words so it's completely useless.
Chi said in a Polish interview in 2006 that Serj wrote the vocal line to the whole song but Chino left only that shitty part.
i still want to hear .white woman. Cause the snippet that nun posted years ago was bit different on vocals... And i think he had that whole track.
I thought White Woman was Needles and Pins ?
Quote from: asshole on Oct 01, 2011, 11:21 AM
i still want to hear .white woman. Cause the snippet that nun posted years ago was bit different on vocals... And i think he had that whole track.
Its the same song except the vocals were mixed differently. That goes for all the snippets from the self-titled sessions. I believe this was discussed in the S/T demos thread so you may want to look through that.
Anyone have any info on the song in this specific clip? Maybe "Chillers" or "Trempest"?
Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk#)
Chillers is a real Deftones song just like Amnesty is a real Deftones songs. Meaning it isn't.
Could be Trempest, though.
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 03, 2011, 09:05 AM
Chillers is a real Deftones song just like (Amnisty > Not a deftones song!) is a real Deftones songs. Meaning it isn't.
Could be Trempest, though.
Oh CHI said that "Trempest" is a really really heavy song. He also said somethin about the drums being insane on that track too
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 03, 2011, 09:05 AM
Chillers is a real Deftones song just like (Amnisty > Not a deftones song!) is a real Deftones songs. Meaning it isn't.
Could be Trempest, though.
I thought the song title was real, and the lyrics were fake.
Chillers?
That is such a shit song title, sounds like it was made up by a retarded fan.
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Oct 04, 2011, 09:16 PM
Chillers?
That is such a shit song title, sounds like it was made up by a retarded fan.
That's probably because it was. This has been discussed here so many times that I shouldn't even have to say this. The title and (shitty) lyrics were never mentioned or hinted at by the band in any capacity, official or otherwise. Can we PLEASE put this whole retarded Chillers thing to rest now? It doesn't exist, it's not an Eros song, it's not even a fucking deftones song. I'm sick of hearing about it. Trempest = real, Chillers = mislabeled retarded lyrics probably put up by a moron under the deftones name to draw attention to it. Case muthafuckin' closed.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Oct 04, 2011, 09:20 PM
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Oct 04, 2011, 09:16 PM
Chillers?
That is such a shit song title, sounds like it was made up by a retarded fan.
That's probably because it was. This has been discussed here so many times that I shouldn't even have to say this. The title and (shitty) lyrics were never mentioned or hinted at by the band in any capacity, official or otherwise. Can we PLEASE put this whole retarded Chillers thing to rest now? It doesn't exist, it's not an Eros song, it's not even a fucking deftones song. I'm sick of hearing about it. Trempest = real, Chillers = mislabeled retarded lyrics probably put up by a moron under the deftones name to draw attention to it. Case muthafuckin' closed.
Well the tentative title of "When Girls Telephone Boys" was "Bukakke" so i wouldnt put it past them.
Yeah but that would be a funny working title. Chillers however is something millhouse would come up with in a failed attempt to be cool
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Oct 05, 2011, 05:34 PM
Yeah but that would be a funny working title. Chillers however is something millhouse would come up with in a failed attempt to be cool
HAHAHAHAAH
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Oct 05, 2011, 10:45 PM
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Oct 05, 2011, 05:34 PM
Yeah but that would be a funny working title. Chillers however is something millhouse would come up with in a failed attempt to be cool
HAHAHAHAAH
What he said haha.
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I take it you've heard Eros. How does that stuff differ from Diamond Eyes?
I've heard a few songs. It's not a lot different. I can't really explain it. It sounds like the Deftones and goes back to the way every Deftones album is unique. No two Deftones albums are the same. Stephen said it well once where it's a concept of where you're at because everyone is constantly evolving. When you make a record, it literally becomes a snapshot of that place in time where you're living at. It definitely sounds a lot thicker than the Diamond Eyes stuff. The Diamond Eyes songs are pretty short and get to the point. The Eros songs I heard were longer and they had more stuff going on.
Are there still plans to release that at some point?
I think the plan is that it definitely should see the light of day at some point that feels right when it's not so much married to a tragedy. It should be able to speak for itself. The collection of songs are really good in it, so I think it's going to come out when enough time has passed and you're enabled to look at the material in a different way.
Quote from: Redsun on Oct 12, 2011, 08:10 AM
I think the plan is that it definitely should see the light of day at some point that feels right when it's not so much married to a tragedy.
which is never. you're never going to be able to think about eros without instantly connecting it to what happened to chi. it's the last thing he worked on and people are not going to be able to see past that.
yeah definetely never
What I don't get is that they're trying to raise all this money for Chi--why don't they release this album and donate most of the proceeds to his foundation? I'm sure that the album will do well.
Quote from: thetongue on Oct 12, 2011, 03:49 PM
What I don't get is that they're trying to raise all this money for Chi--why don't they release this album and donate most of the proceeds to his foundation? I'm sure that the album will do well.
it isn't finished
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Oct 12, 2011, 04:59 PM
Quote from: thetongue on Oct 12, 2011, 03:49 PM
What I don't get is that they're trying to raise all this money for Chi--why don't they release this album and donate most of the proceeds to his foundation? I'm sure that the album will do well.
it isn't finished
Doesn't it only require Chino to finish half of the songs?
Most of the songs, and yeah pretty much. They'd have to convince him to do it, but I don't think he'd want to. He don't like going back to things they've done in the past. Mixing and editing would still need to be done. I'd rather the album be released now, in whatver state it is rather then them going back to it now and making it sound all Dimaond Eye-ish
Quote from: Redsun on Oct 12, 2011, 08:10 AM
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I take it you've heard Eros. How does that stuff differ from Diamond Eyes?
I've heard a few songs. It's not a lot different. I can't really explain it. It sounds like the Deftones and goes back to the way every Deftones album is unique. No two Deftones albums are the same. Stephen said it well once where it's a concept of where you're at because everyone is constantly evolving. When you make a record, it literally becomes a snapshot of that place in time where you're living at. It definitely sounds a lot thicker than the Diamond Eyes stuff. The Diamond Eyes songs are pretty short and get to the point. The Eros songs I heard were longer and they had more stuff going on.
Are there still plans to release that at some point?
I think the plan is that it definitely should see the light of day at some point that feels right when it's not so much married to a tragedy. It should be able to speak for itself. The collection of songs are really good in it, so I think it's going to come out when enough time has passed and you're enabled to look at the material in a different way.
I hope hes not right about the "it doesnt sound much different" from Diamond Eyes part. Hes probably not, due to the fact that Chino has stated several times its supposed to be a *WEIRD* album, and Diamond Eyes is the antithesis of "unorthodox", "heavy", "psychedelic", or any other terms they have associated with Eros.
Quote from: nicklav on Oct 12, 2011, 05:03 PM
Doesn't it only require Chino to finish half of the songs?
Not even half, I watched an interview from 2010 recently (which i think is somewhere posted here), and Chino said only a *few* songs need full vocal tracks. A few to me is two or three. Not half. He also said they haven't exactly sat down and listened to Eros and discussed/picked whats good and whats not, which a lot of time has passed. They must have listened to it by now if its already 2011.
With that, I think its kind of a hint that Eros will never be officially released if they made time after the production of Saturday Night Wrist to listen to its demos (the sixteen ones released online, with "Buffalo" and the other instrumentals) which they didn't even intend to make official songs, yet they don't have time now to listen to Eros which they supposedly want to *eventually* release?
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Oct 12, 2011, 05:37 PM
Most of the songs, and yeah pretty much. They'd have to convince him to do it, but I don't think he'd want to. He don't like going back to things they've done in the past. Mixing and editing would still need to be done. I'd rather the album be released now, in whatver state it is rather then them going back to it now and making it sound all Dimaond Eye-ish
This is exactly my feelings on it.
Well, we know of five songs for Eros:
(unknown song, "Trempest"?)
Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn_OT-Jh4Y#)
Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk&feature=related#)
"Melanie"
Deftones - Melanie ( New Song ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo&feature=related#)
(unknown song, "Dallas" maybe?)
Deftones mix Eros [Rehersal] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_gTixsrhU&feature=related#)
(unknown song, possibly just effects for a full track?, or "Destiny"?)
Deftines eros in studio 2008 Clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vtD81rcMI&feature=related#)
(unknown song, obviously needs a new title ;D)
Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#)
Your all guess are wrong.
The clip 3 and 4 is obviously ''the finger of death'' as a b-side of the record
"It's not a lot different" and "No two Deftones albums are the same" are a bit contradictory but i think it's the first time that someone that wasn't part of the making of eros, talk about how it sounds. so i'm content with anything like this. the "sounds a lot like d.e" thing was a little of a shocker i think. but that's it, surly sergio isn't the man who can say or speculate when or if eros is gonna be relased, not up to him when he wasn't involve in it at all
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 13, 2011, 09:49 AM
Your all guess are wrong.
The clip 3 and 4 is obviously ''the finger of death'' as a b-side of the record
I wouldn't say " obviously ", but yeah, both sound like the last part of the Finger of Death instrumental demo.
Quote from: Electron§ on Oct 13, 2011, 05:42 AM
(unknown song, "Dallas" maybe?)
Deftones mix Eros [Rehersal] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_gTixsrhU&feature=related#)
This is a fan-made, created using this:
Deftones - Eros song rehearsal snippet [Eros writing sessions] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FamY_kN2E4Y#ws)
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 13, 2011, 04:33 PM
Quote from: Electron§ on Oct 13, 2011, 05:42 AM
(unknown song, "Dallas" maybe?)
Deftones mix Eros [Rehersal] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_gTixsrhU&feature=related#)
This is a fan-made, created using this:
Deftones - Eros song rehearsal snippet [Eros writing sessions] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FamY_kN2E4Y#ws)
same chords as beauty school!
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 13, 2011, 04:33 PM
Quote from: Electron§ on Oct 13, 2011, 05:42 AM
(unknown song, "Dallas" maybe?)
Deftones mix Eros [Rehersal] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_gTixsrhU&feature=related#)
This is a fan-made, created using this:
Deftones - Eros song rehearsal snippet [Eros writing sessions] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FamY_kN2E4Y#ws)
But not just that, also the version which you hear at the beginning of the in studio clips.
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 13, 2011, 04:32 PM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 13, 2011, 09:49 AM
Your all guess are wrong.
The clip 3 and 4 is obviously ''the finger of death'' as a b-side of the record
I wouldn't say " obviously ", but yeah, both sound like the last part of the Finger of Death instrumental demo.
I highly doubt that they would re-work "Finger of Death/Buffalo" and put it on Eros. Even though there is a slight similarity, the part of it they played in clip 3 has some effects/reverb to the riff which doesnt sound anything like FOD.
At one point there was a song called "Blue Tears" floating around and some people thought it might have been from Deftones as a demo for Eros or something, and when I listened to it recently, I actually noticed it bears a bit of a resemblance to "Risk" which is on Diamond Eyes. A hint?
I remember that, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Deftones related after all.
Idk why but i always kind of imagined the cover of Eros being similar to Killing Joke's "Revelations" cover.
(http://[url=http://en.metalship.org/archives/albums/album12593.jpg%5Dhttp://en.metalship.org/archives/albums/album12593.jpg%5B/url%5D)
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 13, 2011, 04:32 PM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 13, 2011, 09:49 AM
Your all guess are wrong.
The clip 3 and 4 is obviously ''the finger of death'' as a b-side of the record
I wouldn't say " obviously ", but yeah, both sound like the last part of the Finger of Death instrumental demo.
it's completely different :| really
whats funny is I actually had the tracklist to Eros with all the stripper names as song names, Ill be damned if i can find it though
Quote from: kitesvera on Nov 01, 2011, 11:06 PM
whats funny is I actually had the tracklist to Eros with all the stripper names as song names, Ill be damned if i can find it though
You mean you had the *whole* tracklist? Because if that's not what you mean, we already know of a few song names. (Melanie, Dallas, Destiny, and Trempest)
Didn't Sergio say that the Eros songs were more complex and had "a lot more going on"? This made me think maybe we'd be getting some Faith No More/Mr. Bungle type mid song rhythm changes. I could see this happening actually kind of. Of course much more subtle, but with the way what we've heard sounds I can see it.
I think there was a photo similar to the DE sessions board (you know, the one with Sleestack, Prince Michael and Yum Yum) for Eros. Not as many songs, though. Only eight. If I'm not mistaking, Asia was another working title.
Mercedes was also there on the board.
edit; I found some titles from taht board in the other thread here on SL:
-Mercedes
-Melanie
-Brenda
-Cindi
-Destiny
-Asia
-Griaun(?)
-Candy
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 04, 2011, 02:19 PM
I think there was a photo similar to the DE sessions board (you know, the one with Sleestack, Prince Michael and Yum Yum) for Eros. Not as many songs, though. Only eight. If I'm not mistaking, Asia was another working title.
Quote from: m on Nov 04, 2011, 04:52 PM
Mercedes was also there on the board.
Wait huh?
So they actually released a photo during the making of Eros of the sessions board? And "Asia" and "Mercedes" were two of the names?
Well, if "Melanie", "Trempest", "Destiny", and "Dallas" weren't on the board, then that means we would pretty much have all the tentative names of all Eros tracks if someone could find that picture. That also means Eros has at least 12 tracks.
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 05, 2011, 07:56 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 04, 2011, 02:19 PM
I think there was a photo similar to the DE sessions board (you know, the one with Sleestack, Prince Michael and Yum Yum) for Eros. Not as many songs, though. Only eight. If I'm not mistaking, Asia was another working title.
Quote from: m on Nov 04, 2011, 04:52 PM
Mercedes was also there on the board.
Wait huh?
So they actually released a photo during the making of Eros of the sessions board? And "Asia" and "Mercedes" were two of the names?
Well, if "Melanie", "Trempest", "Destiny", and "Dallas" weren't on the board, then that means we would pretty much have all the tentative names of all Eros tracks if someone could find that picture. That also means Eros has at least 12 tracks.
That makes sense, 12 official tracks. The usual deftones standard.
Found it:
http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm)
http://http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg)
"There are 8 tracks on this picture (temporary?) Of Eros, the future album.
Mercedes, Melanie (already played live), Brenda, Cindi, Destiny, Asia, Briana Candy and thus confirm that the story of an album with just the names of strippers was not a schoolboy prank. ^ ^
After that, there is no guarantee that these "titles" will be reflected in the final album will be remembered, for example, New Murderer become Feiticeira of Tilde become Xerces ..."
So I guess now then we can say that the official track list for Eros was (at least at the time):
1. You've Seen The Butcher (this demo released on Deftones myspace page, not the D.E. version: Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#))
2. Destiny
3. Dallas
4. Melanie
5. Trempest
6. Mercedes
7. Brenda
8. Cindi
9. Asia
10. Briana
11. Candy
And if the album has 11 tracks, then we've already heard little snippets of four of them, and the full live version of one of them, so there's still six songs we have no idea about.
Thoughts?
I can imagine "Destiny" being an electronic song, "Candy" being kind of creepy and slow, and "Trempest" having almost tribal type drums.
this has been posted before..its just some stupid beats, not about deftones
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Nov 06, 2011, 09:00 AM
this has been posted before..its just some stupid beats, not about deftones
Yes, it is Deftones. It was posted on their MySpace with the title " You've Seen The Butcher ", circa 2008 if I'm correct.
Trempest is the weirdest stripper name ever.
Supposedly Destiny is the song at the beginning of each Eros snippet videos aka the song that everyone thinks morphed into Beauty School.
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 06, 2011, 06:06 PM
Trempest is the weirdest stripper name ever.
Supposedly Destiny is the song at the beginning of each Eros snippet videos aka the song that everyone thinks morphed into Beauty School.
Its a real name I think.
Where did this information come from?
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 06, 2011, 01:13 AM
Found it:
http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm)
http://http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg)
"There are 8 tracks on this picture (temporary?) Of Eros, the future album.
Mercedes, Melanie (already played live), Brenda, Cindi, Destiny, Asia, Briana Candy and thus confirm that the story of an album with just the names of strippers was not a schoolboy prank. ^ ^
After that, there is no guarantee that these "titles" will be reflected in the final album will be remembered, for example, New Murderer become Feiticeira of Tilde become Xerces ..."
So I guess now then we can say that the official track list for Eros was (at least at the time):
1. You've Seen The Butcher (this demo released on Deftones myspace page, not the D.E. version: Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#))
2. Destiny
3. Dallas
4. Melanie
5. Trempest
6. Mercedes
7. Brenda
8. Cindi
9. Asia
10. Briana
11. Candy
And if the album has 11 tracks, then we've already heard little snippets of four of them, and the full live version of one of them, so there's still six songs we have no idea about.
Thoughts?
Also, these eight songs were probably the ones Chino was talking about which were written in only two weeks.
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 07, 2011, 02:10 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 06, 2011, 01:13 AM
Found it:
http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/engine_2009-02.htm)
http://http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg (http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg)
"There are 8 tracks on this picture (temporary?) Of Eros, the future album.
Mercedes, Melanie (already played live), Brenda, Cindi, Destiny, Asia, Briana Candy and thus confirm that the story of an album with just the names of strippers was not a schoolboy prank. ^ ^
After that, there is no guarantee that these "titles" will be reflected in the final album will be remembered, for example, New Murderer become Feiticeira of Tilde become Xerces ..."
So I guess now then we can say that the official track list for Eros was (at least at the time):
1. You've Seen The Butcher (this demo released on Deftones myspace page, not the D.E. version: Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#))
2. Destiny
3. Dallas
4. Melanie
5. Trempest
6. Mercedes
7. Brenda
8. Cindi
9. Asia
10. Briana
11. Candy
And if the album has 11 tracks, then we've already heard little snippets of four of them, and the full live version of one of them, so there's still six songs we have no idea about.
Thoughts?
Also, these eight songs were probably the ones Chino was talking about which were written in only two weeks.
Wow thats quite fast. I think the fastest they've written a group of songs all together compared to their previous records. Can someone confirm?!
sure about this? chino said that songwriting was unfocused on eros and that much studio time was spent socializing and becoming friends again. playing poker, the board game risk and what not ^ they began writing early in 2007 and they planned to release the album in late 2008, which later was delayed to 2009. I thought it was a fairly slow process compared to atf and d.e. you're not thinking of d.e?
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 08, 2011, 01:58 AM
sure about this? chino said that songwriting was unfocused on eros and that much studio time was spent socializing and becoming friends again. playing poker, the board game risk and what not ^ they began writing early in 2007 and they planned to release the album in late 2008, which later was delayed to 2009. I thought it was a fairly slow process compared to atf and d.e. you're not thinking of d.e?
Actually now that I think about it and have read it again, I'm not sure if he was talking about D.E. or Eros:
"Eros is sacred and special to us and, at this point, it's the last thing that Chi has played on, but I really felt like looking forward. After the first two weeks, we had about eight songs. On the last few records, it took us a year to get that much material. And it happened naturally. It was great."
Moreno had had issues with Eros, enjoying its experimental edge but fearing its songwriting was too untidy. He wanted to improve that on what would become their new album, Diamond Eyes. At least part of the reason for that was because he had come to a startling realisation."
I don't think the making of Eros was particularly slow, as if it was, it would seem it would be just like White Pony, S/T, and SNW in the sense that it dragged on. So I imagine it was *relatively* fast.
once again, i believe 70-80% of DE material are from EROS session, thats what make the record finished sooo fast (for the tones). if they did have the 'fast writing process' , we should already heard teaser for new single in mid 2012, i believe.
Found this interview, Abe says that they were in the middle of mixing Eros when they halted production, and that Chino only had a *few thing* to finish up vocally, as well as the art work was almost completed.
Quote from: pony_01 on Nov 08, 2011, 08:18 AM
once again, i believe 70-80% of DE material are from EROS session, thats what make the record finished sooo fast (for the tones). if they did have the 'fast writing process' , we should already heard teaser for new single in mid 2012, i believe.
But Diamond Eyes doesn't sound unorthodox to me at all. Thats the problem with that hypothesis.
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2011, 08:20 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Nov 08, 2011, 08:18 AM
once again, i believe 70-80% of DE material are from EROS session, thats what make the record finished sooo fast (for the tones). if they did have the 'fast writing process' , we should already heard teaser for new single in mid 2012, i believe.
But Diamond Eyes doesn't sound unorthodox to me at all. Thats the problem with that hypothesis.
according to what Sergio said, DE quiet sounds like EROS. Do you remember the Bob Ezrin demos? thats really unorthodox to me, but when the SNW comes out.... meh... I think that's what happened to DE + Sergio came in and add some touch to the songs.
Quote from: pony_01 on Nov 08, 2011, 08:27 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2011, 08:20 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Nov 08, 2011, 08:18 AM
once again, i believe 70-80% of DE material are from EROS session, thats what make the record finished sooo fast (for the tones). if they did have the 'fast writing process' , we should already heard teaser for new single in mid 2012, i believe.
But Diamond Eyes doesn't sound unorthodox to me at all. Thats the problem with that hypothesis.
according to what Sergio said, DE quiet sounds like EROS. Do you remember the Bob Ezrin demos? thats really unorthodox to me, but when the SNW comes out.... meh... I think that's what happened to DE + Sergio came in and add some touch to the songs.
I'd like to not believe Sergio. All the members of Deftones seem to have a knack for contradicting themselves many times over the course of one interview, so Sergio has just been hanging around Chino and the gang too much. :D
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2011, 02:47 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 08, 2011, 01:58 AM
sure about this? chino said that songwriting was unfocused on eros and that much studio time was spent socializing and becoming friends again. playing poker, the board game risk and what not ^ they began writing early in 2007 and they planned to release the album in late 2008, which later was delayed to 2009. I thought it was a fairly slow process compared to atf and d.e. you're not thinking of d.e?
Actually now that I think about it and have read it again, I'm not sure if he was talking about D.E. or Eros:
"Eros is sacred and special to us and, at this point, it's the last thing that Chi has played on, but I really felt like looking forward. After the first two weeks, we had about eight songs. On the last few records, it took us a year to get that much material. And it happened naturally. It was great."
Moreno had had issues with Eros, enjoying its experimental edge but fearing its songwriting was too untidy. He wanted to improve that on what would become their new album, Diamond Eyes. At least part of the reason for that was because he had come to a startling realisation."
I don't think the making of Eros was particularly slow, as if it was, it would seem it would be just like White Pony, S/T, and SNW in the sense that it dragged on. So I imagine it was *relatively* fast.
definitley eros they talked about. i just didn't remember them saying so. but like always, they switch the story from time to time :)
Quote from: pony_01 on Nov 08, 2011, 08:27 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2011, 08:20 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Nov 08, 2011, 08:18 AM
once again, i believe 70-80% of DE material are from EROS session, thats what make the record finished sooo fast (for the tones). if they did have the 'fast writing process' , we should already heard teaser for new single in mid 2012, i believe.
But Diamond Eyes doesn't sound unorthodox to me at all. Thats the problem with that hypothesis.
according to what Sergio said, DE quiet sounds like EROS. Do you remember the Bob Ezrin demos? thats really unorthodox to me, but when the SNW comes out.... meh... I think that's what happened to DE + Sergio came in and add some touch to the songs.
According to what Chino says, Eros sounds NOTHING like Diamond Eyes. (http://www.spin.com/articles/studio-deftones (http://www.spin.com/articles/studio-deftones)) Check out everything he says... he basically contradicts Sergio completely. I'm more apt to believe Chino, honestly...
"...we still have Eros. It's a really experimental, dark record for us..."
"But when the accident happened, we just didn't want to be in that time anymore. We had to start looking to the future. We needed to create something more optimistic."
So by definition I would assume EROS is more like S/T (dark, experimental), and Diamond Eyes was a more optimistic, poppy record ON PURPOSE. For a reason. Not to sell out and gain a larger fan base, but rather to reflect the kind of vibe they wanted to bring. They wanted optimism, they wanted happy thoughts, for Chi's sake.
How do we know that song similar to Beauty School is called Destiny? I just love that song though... sounds amazing. I hope we hear Eros in the near future.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Nov 08, 2011, 04:43 PM
So by definition I would assume EROS is more like S/T (dark, experimental),
I really hope your right. ;D
Quote from: sooniletugo on Nov 08, 2011, 09:55 PM
How do we know that song similar to Beauty School is called Destiny? I just love that song though... sounds amazing. I hope we hear Eros in the near future.
Someone close to the band told me.
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 08, 2011, 10:10 PM
Quote from: sooniletugo on Nov 08, 2011, 09:55 PM
How do we know that song similar to Beauty School is called Destiny? I just love that song though... sounds amazing. I hope we hear Eros in the near future.
Someone close to the band told me.
HOW CLOSE? :o
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 08, 2011, 10:10 PM
Quote from: sooniletugo on Nov 08, 2011, 09:55 PM
How do we know that song similar to Beauty School is called Destiny? I just love that song though... sounds amazing. I hope we hear Eros in the near future.
Someone close to the band told me.
What ? I didn't tell you anything... ;D
I have a confession to make.....
I'm Terry Date's cousins brother in laws sons wife's daughters boyfriends uncles teachers friends aunts employee.
I still cant believe people are talking about DE being most of the Eros sessions. Go ask Shaun Lopez on facebook chat, seriously. He told me himself that Eros, was the record he preferred in comparison to DE. He also told me that nothing for Eros is on Diamond Eyes. How hard is to grasp that they just stopped with Eros, shelved it, and wrote an entirely new batch of songs with Sergio, that became Diamond Eyes. Is it really that hard to understand. And no matter how many people think so, the music in the one video that people think is Beauty School, is not Beauty School. Similar sounding, yes. Same song, no. Deftones, Sergio and Shaun Lopez have all stated as fact that Eros, is a completely different record from Diamond Eyes. Those are the facts.
Quote from: kitesvera on Nov 08, 2011, 10:43 PM
I still cant believe people are talking about DE being most of the Eros sessions. Go ask Shaun Lopez on facebook chat, seriously. He told me himself that Eros, was the record he preferred in comparison to DE. He also told me that nothing for Eros is on Diamond Eyes. How hard is to grasp that they just stopped with Eros, shelved it, and wrote an entirely new batch of songs with Sergio, that became Diamond Eyes. Is it really that hard to understand. And no matter how many people think so, the music in the one video that people think is Beauty School, is not Beauty School. Similar sounding, yes. Same song, no. Deftones, Sergio and Shaun Lopez have all stated as fact that Eros, is a completely different record from Diamond Eyes. Those are the facts.
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Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 08, 2011, 10:51 PM
Quote from: kitesvera on Nov 08, 2011, 10:43 PM
I still cant believe people are talking about DE being most of the Eros sessions. Go ask Shaun Lopez on facebook chat, seriously. He told me himself that Eros, was the record he preferred in comparison to DE. He also told me that nothing for Eros is on Diamond Eyes. How hard is to grasp that they just stopped with Eros, shelved it, and wrote an entirely new batch of songs with Sergio, that became Diamond Eyes. Is it really that hard to understand. And no matter how many people think so, the music in the one video that people think is Beauty School, is not Beauty School. Similar sounding, yes. Same song, no. Deftones, Sergio and Shaun Lopez have all stated as fact that Eros, is a completely different record from Diamond Eyes. Those are the facts.
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Sticky on the mainscreen so it can be formally told one and for all! :D
personally i don't have any facts about it. i would guess it's all different stuff aside from the early beauty school, but all i have read is by deftones themselves and now a guy on the internet. when i hear it is the day i have the facts :)
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 08, 2011, 10:10 PM
Quote from: sooniletugo on Nov 08, 2011, 09:55 PM
How do we know that song similar to Beauty School is called Destiny? I just love that song though... sounds amazing. I hope we hear Eros in the near future.
Someone close to the band told me.
lol Well I'll take your word for it, i love that song. It's kind of annoying that it always gets referred to as an early Beauty School because even though there's some similarities it's got a totally different mood. Makes me feel quite sad. Would love to hear it.
For some reason when I listen to White Pony and then listen to the Eros clips, it almost sounds like Eros kind of picks up right where white pony leaves off in some way.....
The songs seem to have a similar vibe.
Quote from: kitesvera on Nov 08, 2011, 10:43 PM
I still cant believe people are talking about DE being most of the Eros sessions. Go ask Shaun Lopez on facebook chat, seriously. He told me himself that Eros, was the record he preferred in comparison to DE. He also told me that nothing for Eros is on Diamond Eyes. How hard is to grasp that they just stopped with Eros, shelved it, and wrote an entirely new batch of songs with Sergio, that became Diamond Eyes. Is it really that hard to understand. And no matter how many people think so, the music in the one video that people think is Beauty School, is not Beauty School. Similar sounding, yes. Same song, no. Deftones, Sergio and Shaun Lopez have all stated as fact that Eros, is a completely different record from Diamond Eyes. Those are the facts.
haha i never ask someone official before about that. i'll ask him one day on facebook chat
I agree with Aaron (kitesvera), and I've been saying this since the release of Diamond Eyes: none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 09, 2011, 02:40 PM
none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.
probably true... but the theory is pretty awesome, it boosts up the mystic about the album. these speculations about eros is probably more interesting than the actual music on it. be thankful of this time and let the hype and the theorys flow.
and with that said, we haven't heard eros. and lopez is one of them - he's also in their pact and a total feeder of the lie ;)
EVRFING IZ A LIIIE
too true,penicks
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Quote from: from_musings on Nov 09, 2011, 03:15 PM
we haven't heard eros.
and we never will.
eros is a fucking myth
There was a second shooter who assassinated Kennedy! 9/11 was an inside job! Barak Obama is a Muslim born in Africa! Chemtrails are real!
Umm... Ice cream is really made from unborn fetuses?! I dunno.. I'm out of things to say...
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 09, 2011, 03:15 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 09, 2011, 02:40 PM
none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.
probably true... but the theory is pretty awesome, it boosts up the mystic about the album. these speculations about eros is probably more interesting than the actual music on it. be thankful of this time and let the hype and the theorys flow.
and with that said, we haven't heard eros. and lopez is one of them - he's also in their pact and a total feeder of the lie ;)
trust me, I talked to shaun about this multiple times, and I dont think he would lie to me. I talked to him on FB chat and in person when i saw Far. He told me that he preferred the Eros material over DE. He said is was much heavier and more experimental than they have been in the past. I think if he tells me that he personally likes Eros more then DE i dont think he is lying. He also told me he didnt really care for DE too much. He didnt say it was bad or anything, just that he liked what he heard on Eros more. Shaun is a pretty honest dude when it comes to his opinions about something, i know this because i have been talking to the dude for years now whether on FB or in person, or through personal messages. If fact i have talked to him enough that he knows who i am and how much i support Far, Deftones and Crosses and has thanked me on multiple occasions for supporting the three for so long now. When i met him in 2009 i walked up to him after Far played and said hey shaun, how you doing dude, Im Aaron (or Kitesvera-My internet name) and he was like, oh shit whats up dude, nice to finally meet you in person!. We then had a 20 minute conversation about all sorts of stuff from Crosses, to Eros, to stories from when Deftones/Far toured europe in 97. Hes a great dude, and by far, no pun intended, one of the most down to earth musicians i have ever met. take this as you will, but i believe that what Shaun has told me is true.
Quote from: kitesvera on Nov 10, 2011, 06:19 PM
He said is was much heavier and more experimental than they have been in the past.
Sounds very good.
Quote from: kitesvera on Nov 10, 2011, 06:19 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 09, 2011, 03:15 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 09, 2011, 02:40 PM
none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.
probably true... but the theory is pretty awesome, it boosts up the mystic about the album. these speculations about eros is probably more interesting than the actual music on it. be thankful of this time and let the hype and the theorys flow.
and with that said, we haven't heard eros. and lopez is one of them - he's also in their pact and a total feeder of the lie ;)
trust me, I talked to shaun about this multiple times, and I dont think he would lie to me. I talked to him on FB chat and in person when i saw Far. He told me that he preferred the Eros material over DE. He said is was much heavier and more experimental than they have been in the past. I think if he tells me that he personally likes Eros more then DE i dont think he is lying. He also told me he didnt really care for DE too much. He didnt say it was bad or anything, just that he liked what he heard on Eros more. Shaun is a pretty honest dude when it comes to his opinions about something, i know this because i have been talking to the dude for years now whether on FB or in person, or through personal messages. If fact i have talked to him enough that he knows who i am and how much i support Far, Deftones and Crosses and has thanked me on multiple occasions for supporting the three for so long now. When i met him in 2009 i walked up to him after Far played and said hey shaun, how you doing dude, Im Aaron (or Kitesvera-My internet name) and he was like, oh shit whats up dude, nice to finally meet you in person!. We then had a 20 minute conversation about all sorts of stuff from Crosses, to Eros, to stories from when Deftones/Far toured europe in 97. Hes a great dude, and by far, no pun intended, one of the most down to earth musicians i have ever met. take this as you will, but i believe that what Shaun has told me is true.
Has he became annoyed with you at all asking him the same question in every way imaginable? Did he ask you "didn't u ask me this already?"
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Nov 11, 2011, 12:40 AM
Quote from: kitesvera on Nov 10, 2011, 06:19 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 09, 2011, 03:15 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 09, 2011, 02:40 PM
none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.
probably true... but the theory is pretty awesome, it boosts up the mystic about the album. these speculations about eros is probably more interesting than the actual music on it. be thankful of this time and let the hype and the theorys flow.
and with that said, we haven't heard eros. and lopez is one of them - he's also in their pact and a total feeder of the lie ;)
trust me, I talked to shaun about this multiple times, and I dont think he would lie to me. I talked to him on FB chat and in person when i saw Far. He told me that he preferred the Eros material over DE. He said is was much heavier and more experimental than they have been in the past. I think if he tells me that he personally likes Eros more then DE i dont think he is lying. He also told me he didnt really care for DE too much. He didnt say it was bad or anything, just that he liked what he heard on Eros more. Shaun is a pretty honest dude when it comes to his opinions about something, i know this because i have been talking to the dude for years now whether on FB or in person, or through personal messages. If fact i have talked to him enough that he knows who i am and how much i support Far, Deftones and Crosses and has thanked me on multiple occasions for supporting the three for so long now. When i met him in 2009 i walked up to him after Far played and said hey shaun, how you doing dude, Im Aaron (or Kitesvera-My internet name) and he was like, oh shit whats up dude, nice to finally meet you in person!. We then had a 20 minute conversation about all sorts of stuff from Crosses, to Eros, to stories from when Deftones/Far toured europe in 97. Hes a great dude, and by far, no pun intended, one of the most down to earth musicians i have ever met. take this as you will, but i believe that what Shaun has told me is true.
Has he became annoyed with you at all asking him the same question in every way imaginable? Did he ask you "didn't u ask me this already?"
Haha, this is actually what has kept me from trying to ask him these questions myself.
I dont think it makes sense to think that anything frm Eros went onto Diamond Eyes, or was reworked slightly to be put onto Diamond Eyes. People were really excited about Eros because of it being called dark, unorthodox, experimental, weird, etc. A lotta you arent huge fans of Diamond Eyes, and it's generally their more upbeat and poppy-sounding album, so that seems kinda the opposite. As for it being recorded quickly, I dont think it's far-fetched to believe that they were just working together more efficiently than they had been previously.
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Nov 11, 2011, 08:31 AM
I dont think it makes sense to think that anything frm Eros went onto Diamond Eyes, or was reworked slightly to be put onto Diamond Eyes. People were really excited about Eros because of it being called dark, unorthodox, experimental, weird, etc. A lotta you arent huge fans of Diamond Eyes, and it's generally their more upbeat and poppy-sounding album, so that seems kinda the opposite. As for it being recorded quickly, I dont think it's far-fetched to believe that they were just working together more efficiently than they had been previously.
Exactly my thoughts.
I'm pretty sure Eros is a more structured, heavier and even more experimental version of SNW. Take the best they could have made of the Bob Ezrin demos, add some more heaviness and " weird " shit, and you have Eros. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to hear some more angry pissed off shit on it.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 11, 2011, 02:15 PM
I'm pretty sure Eros is a more structured, heavier and even more experimental version of SNW. Take the best they could have made of the Bob Ezrin demos, add some more heaviness and " weird " shit, and you have Eros. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to hear some more angry pissed off shit on it.
What Ezrin demos could the songs we know of from Eros have possibly been extracted from? Almost non of them. I don't hear any similarity.
No, I don't mean some Ezrin demos are on Eros. I mean that these demos are experimental and heavy, and that Eros songs are probably like that, even better.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Nov 11, 2011, 12:40 AM
Quote from: kitesvera on Nov 10, 2011, 06:19 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 09, 2011, 03:15 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 09, 2011, 02:40 PM
none of the Eros material was used for Diamond Eyes.
probably true... but the theory is pretty awesome, it boosts up the mystic about the album. these speculations about eros is probably more interesting than the actual music on it. be thankful of this time and let the hype and the theorys flow.
and with that said, we haven't heard eros. and lopez is one of them - he's also in their pact and a total feeder of the lie ;)
trust me, I talked to shaun about this multiple times, and I dont think he would lie to me. I talked to him on FB chat and in person when i saw Far. He told me that he preferred the Eros material over DE. He said is was much heavier and more experimental than they have been in the past. I think if he tells me that he personally likes Eros more then DE i dont think he is lying. He also told me he didnt really care for DE too much. He didnt say it was bad or anything, just that he liked what he heard on Eros more. Shaun is a pretty honest dude when it comes to his opinions about something, i know this because i have been talking to the dude for years now whether on FB or in person, or through personal messages. If fact i have talked to him enough that he knows who i am and how much i support Far, Deftones and Crosses and has thanked me on multiple occasions for supporting the three for so long now. When i met him in 2009 i walked up to him after Far played and said hey shaun, how you doing dude, Im Aaron (or Kitesvera-My internet name) and he was like, oh shit whats up dude, nice to finally meet you in person!. We then had a 20 minute conversation about all sorts of stuff from Crosses, to Eros, to stories from when Deftones/Far toured europe in 97. Hes a great dude, and by far, no pun intended, one of the most down to earth musicians i have ever met. take this as you will, but i believe that what Shaun has told me is true.
Has he became annoyed with you at all asking him the same question in every way imaginable? Did he ask you "didn't u ask me this already?"
haha.. maybe kitesvera doesn't trust lopez either
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Nov 11, 2011, 08:31 AM
I dont think it makes sense to think that anything frm Eros went onto Diamond Eyes, or was reworked slightly to be put onto Diamond Eyes. People were really excited about Eros because of it being called dark, unorthodox, experimental, weird, etc. A lotta you arent huge fans of Diamond Eyes, and it's generally their more upbeat and poppy-sounding album, so that seems kinda the opposite. As for it being recorded quickly, I dont think it's far-fetched to believe that they were just working together more efficiently than they had been previously.
yes but that's good ol' chino talking about eros. this is what he said about snw when we haven't heard it:
Deftones
Aggressive, Evil Album August 20th |
PRP reports Chino Moreno recently commented regarding the bands upcoming new album, here's what he had to say:
"It's far more aggressive than, you know, our last few records, I'd say. I think we kinda just went in this time and just started writing, and obviously, all the stuff that came out was just way aggressive. That's what kind of made it fun. It was weird being out in Malibu, which is like a sunny place, a happy place, and we just started making some straight evil music."
The group are currently set to begin recording the effort on November 01st with producer Bob Ezrin (Pink Floyd, 30 Seconds To Mars).
..and now snw apperently is their "most chilling album" according to fans. You assume that his description of eros is true.maybe it is. but maybe it isn't. maybe sergio's description about d.e sounding like eros is the true one?again, i'm not saying eros is d.e, just saying chino's spoken word can't be trusted :)
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 12, 2011, 03:24 PM
...which is like a sunny place, a happy place, and we just started making some straight evil music."
THIS SHOULD BE ON OCCULT THEMES THREAD ;D
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 12, 2011, 03:24 PM
Deftones
Aggressive, Evil Album August 20th |
PRP reports Chino Moreno recently commented regarding the bands upcoming new album, here's what he had to say:
"It's far more aggressive than, you know, our last few records, I'd say. I think we kinda just went in this time and just started writing, and obviously, all the stuff that came out was just way aggressive. That's what kind of made it fun. It was weird being out in Malibu, which is like a sunny place, a happy place, and we just started making some straight evil music."
The group are currently set to begin recording the effort on November 01st with producer Bob Ezrin (Pink Floyd, 30 Seconds To Mars).
..and now snw apperently is their "most chilling album" according to fans. You assume that his description of eros is true.maybe it is. but maybe it isn't. maybe sergio's description about d.e sounding like eros is the true one?again, i'm not saying eros is d.e, just saying chino's spoken word can't be trusted :)
But then again, Eros didnt go through almost four years of continuous tweaking by every single member.
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 12, 2011, 03:24 PM
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Nov 11, 2011, 08:31 AM
I dont think it makes sense to think that anything frm Eros went onto Diamond Eyes, or was reworked slightly to be put onto Diamond Eyes. People were really excited about Eros because of it being called dark, unorthodox, experimental, weird, etc. A lotta you arent huge fans of Diamond Eyes, and it's generally their more upbeat and poppy-sounding album, so that seems kinda the opposite. As for it being recorded quickly, I dont think it's far-fetched to believe that they were just working together more efficiently than they had been previously.
yes but that's good ol' chino talking about eros. this is what he said about snw when we haven't heard it:
Deftones
Aggressive, Evil Album August 20th |
PRP reports Chino Moreno recently commented regarding the bands upcoming new album, here's what he had to say:
"It's far more aggressive than, you know, our last few records, I'd say. I think we kinda just went in this time and just started writing, and obviously, all the stuff that came out was just way aggressive. That's what kind of made it fun. It was weird being out in Malibu, which is like a sunny place, a happy place, and we just started making some straight evil music."
The group are currently set to begin recording the effort on November 01st with producer Bob Ezrin (Pink Floyd, 30 Seconds To Mars).
..and now snw apperently is their "most chilling album" according to fans. You assume that his description of eros is true.maybe it is. but maybe it isn't. maybe sergio's description about d.e sounding like eros is the true one?again, i'm not saying eros is d.e, just saying chino's spoken word can't be trusted :)
I can see why he said that though, he's not exactly lying, it's just that not all of the songs are aggressive. None of their albums have all songs that are heavy and aggressive, or slow and soft and whatever, but I can see what he's saying about it being aggressive, so there's still a ring of truth to it. I guess it's all just speculation in the end, because all we have to go on are what other ppl have said about it.
yes.. ther're dynamics in their records, aggressive stuff and soft stuff. but here he's saying that snw is more, and has more, of the aggressive stuff than the previous 4 records when he compares snw to them.and that's just not true .saturday night wrist has more of straight up evil music compared to their other records? please. "most chilling", "most team sleepish deftones record" are the words i believe people are using here about the final product. but like electron said, a lot can happen along the way, perhaps they scrapped all those songs he's talking about.but it's like always, one must try to find, think up,make up ,explanations and excuses for why their information is incorrect all the time :)
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 13, 2011, 08:52 PM
yes.. ther're dynamics in their records, aggressive stuff and soft stuff. but here he's saying that snw is more, and has more, of the aggressive stuff than the previous 4 records when he compares snw to them.and that's just not true .saturday night wrist has more of straight up evil music compared to their other records? please. "most chilling", "most team sleepish deftones record" are the words i believe people are using here about the final product. but like electron said, a lot can happen along the way, perhaps they scrapped all those songs he's talking about.but it's like always, one must try to find, think up,make up ,explanations and excuses for why their information is incorrect all the time :)
Well if you listen to "Finger of Death" (presumably the first song written for "Saturday Night Wrist", even though it was ultimately not included), they were probably going for something similar to S/T at first, which is why Chino described it as "straight up evil", but then Bob Ezrin came along, and they made it a bit more spacy, then Chino changed it *again*.
I meant to say too about Sergio saying that "Eros" isn't that different from "Diamond Eyes" that they all seem at this point in time to be a little oblivious or naive about the fact that this last album clearly is too far of a departure from their old styles. Sergio may just be like that too, especially since hes a new member though technically.
If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 14, 2011, 05:38 PM
If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.
Fuck. Yeah.
Does anyone have any idea as to what Chino sings on the live version of FOD?
Gibberish i think.
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 14, 2011, 05:38 PM
If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.
THUMBS MOTHERFUCKIN UP
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 14, 2011, 07:44 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 13, 2011, 08:52 PM
yes.. ther're dynamics in their records, aggressive stuff and soft stuff. but here he's saying that snw is more, and has more, of the aggressive stuff than the previous 4 records when he compares snw to them.and that's just not true .saturday night wrist has more of straight up evil music compared to their other records? please. "most chilling", "most team sleepish deftones record" are the words i believe people are using here about the final product. but like electron said, a lot can happen along the way, perhaps they scrapped all those songs he's talking about.but it's like always, one must try to find, think up,make up ,explanations and excuses for why their information is incorrect all the time :)
Well if you listen to "Finger of Death" (presumably the first song written for "Saturday Night Wrist", even though it was ultimately not included), they were probably going for something similar to S/T at first, which is why Chino described it as "straight up evil", but then Bob Ezrin came along, and they made it a bit more spacy, then Chino changed it *again*.
I thought Bob just rearranged some of the tracks
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 14, 2011, 07:44 AM
Well if you listen to "Finger of Death" (presumably the first song written for "Saturday Night Wrist", even though it was ultimately not included), they were probably going for something similar to S/T at first, which is why Chino described it as "straight up evil", but then Bob Ezrin came along, and they made it a bit more spacy, then Chino changed it *again*.
yeah but he said the new material was " far more aggressive than, you know, our last few records". if he is referring to fod, i don't think it's any more aggressive than adrenaline,atf or self titled
Fuck Eros..
Its 2012.
I told you that album will be released 2036 in 2008.
Now im telling you ''FUCK EROS''
Seriously, fuck it..
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Nov 16, 2011, 10:54 PM
Fuck Eros..
Its 2012.
I told you that album will be released 2036 in 2008.
Now im telling you ''FUCK EROS''
Seriously, fuck it..
We're gonna keep dogging for Eros till the very end of their careers.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Nov 16, 2011, 10:54 PM
I told you that album will be released 2036
see? apparently you believe they're gonna release eros , so why not join the discussion? and there's always the possibility of a leak. hope is the last thing to die
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 17, 2011, 04:32 PM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Nov 16, 2011, 10:54 PM
I told you that album will be released 2036
see? apparently you believe they're gonna release eros , so why not join the discussion? and there's always the possibility of a leak. hope is the last thing to die
How did the SNW demos leak again? Someone went into the studio and burned the tracks to a cd and snuck it out right?
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Nov 16, 2011, 10:54 PM
Fuck Eros..
Its 2012.
I told you that album will be released 2036 in 2008.
Now im telling you ''FUCK EROS''
Seriously, fuck it..
SEE hes telling us to attempt to fuck a CD, it must be really good shit.....
hopefully you didnt think i mean ''god''
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Nov 19, 2011, 02:08 PM
hopefully you didnt think i mean ''god''
I have no idea what this post means. You mean you hope i didnt think you thought you meant "fuck eros" as in eros the god? lolwut
i mean you mean we mean
he means she means it means
come on students say it together
i mean you mean we mean
strong signature to post relation
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 14, 2011, 05:38 PM
If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy20/from_musings/204342-must_not_fap2_super.jpg)
idc about eros tbh. i mean id by it if they realeased it with mony goin 2 chi (one love <3) but im not rlly intrestd othrwise. i luv daimon eyes an im glad it came out instead of eros. i mean the reason why it came out over eros aint good dont get me rong but hey. i preffer there slow or more happy stuff too there hevy n dark stuff. :)
^ lol Nice try Stef. Give it up, you're not fooling anyone. ::)
Who is that guy? His posts hurt my brain.
eros is such an amazing album...
yes it's growing on me, can't believe it did leak after all, sounds like a mix between the snw demos and diamond eyes.
very unorthodox with a lot of uccult themes. who's the girl singing on #8 ?
If only you guys weren't lying.
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 28, 2011, 10:23 AM
yes it's growing on me, can't believe it did leak after all, sounds like a mix between the snw demos and diamond eyes.
very unorthodox with a lot of uccult themes. who's the girl singing on #8 ?
i totally agree man, to me its their darkest, most progressive, poppy yet incredibly mellow album yet....
You're hurting my feelings.
i'm starting to understand the closer of the album now and it's just just amazing. there's this repetitive riff that chino sings to for half the song, no verse or chorus it's just keeps on going. then in the middle of the song, steph begins to play the riff backwards while chino continues to sing the same melody which is the wierdest thing ever. then the last minute it gets real heavy like in royal and chino begins to sing the melody backwards too, this while he sounds like an ancient evil witch, which is strange because at the same time it sounds very spacey and futuristic, love the effects on his voice. best ending of a record i've ever heard
Zzzzzzz.
I can see how some would find the first part of the song boring, but it all makes sense if you listen to the whole song a couple of times. Everyone want deftones to evolve on each record, but when they do, people get all mad anyway. They just can't win no matter what they do
I haven't heard any song because there hasn't been any leak. Please, step your trolling game up.
I like Dark Destiny and Facundah, I think they're the best. Also Car Window reminds me a bit of BQAD and Passenger, but thats just me I guess.
Quote from: 100Modem on Nov 29, 2011, 01:11 AM
Facundah
obviously an early ystb version. the verse is very much like the d.e version but the chorus is way different, less poppy and a whole lot darker vibe.
i do prefer this underground version, certainly wouldn't be a single if they kept this version on d.e. frank's spooky intro is the shit.. a little like what he did in fireal i think. i also like that this version is almost 3 minutes longer
Ronin Stones is such an awesome song!! The electronic kick and snare and the creepy synth fit perfectly with the chopped guitars and then the chorus kicks in and it becomes such an epic space trip!!!this blew me away!!
personal favs:
Appendix XIV
Belisama/Belisma
Coatlique
3.5 to 5 million
O.N. poem
Circa 1939
Hag, witch, fury, etc.,
Now, guys. You all seem to have forgotten the original tracklist...
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 01, 2011, 02:17 PM(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s_SswA0Jbw8/TH2Pt9ptPTI/AAAAAAAAAs8/IH1q-XX6xpw/s400/7c82a15d.jpg)
Tracklist:
Dallas (4'37)
XO (5'11)
Alisson (3'44)
Destiny (2'16)
Melanie (2'40)
Latex (3'57)
You ate it (4'01)
Firelegs (3'12)
Trempest (2'30)
Maya (5'36)
Download (320kbps MP3):
www.mediafire.com/?3ibw0om00jf (http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/april-fools.jpg)
Mind = blown.
btw, whose artwork is that on your Eros cover there?
No idea. Found that on Google.
That artwork is actually from a person who used to post on here who made fake websites for both SNW and Eros and tried to pass them off as official. Not really that different from what's going on in this thread right now. I doubt he actually made that painting, though. He probably found it somewhere and photoshopped DeftonesEROS on top of it.
oh yeah i remember that. wasn't the website of eros slowly revealing piece by piece? kind of like a slider puzzle?
ah, emotional scars from the past, that explains it. i really do think being silly and fooling around is way different from serious internet fraud, that's on another level. i don't think people were up all night searching for "car window" ;)
Everything about me comes from emotional scarring of some kind.
And yeah, it was a puzzle, I believe.
These three French articles are all from yesterday and say pretty much the same thing. Chino said to billboard that they would return to the studio very soon and they were thinking about releasing Eros...
There's nothing on the billboard website though. Maybe there's a new article in the magazine itself ? Does anybody know ? Or maybe French people are just very badly informed.
http://hellsacemetal.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/deftones-en-studio-debut-2012/ (http://hellsacemetal.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/deftones-en-studio-debut-2012/)
http://www.w-fenec.org/infos/2011/12/13/26521.html (http://www.w-fenec.org/infos/2011/12/13/26521.html)
http://metastases.over-blog.com/article-news-2-pour-le-prix-d-un-92363351.html (http://metastases.over-blog.com/article-news-2-pour-le-prix-d-un-92363351.html)
Good find, V. We'll see.
Well, there is this article. It's from May, though.
http://www.billboard.com/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story#/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story (http://www.billboard.com/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story#/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story)
I asked on that w-fenec page where they got their info, a guy replied " From the band's blog ". Maybe I'm just blind but I can't find shit.
Quote from: Inkblades on Dec 14, 2011, 11:12 AM
Well, there is this article. It's from May, though.
http://www.billboard.com/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story#/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story (http://www.billboard.com/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story#/news/deftones-returning-to-studio-after-tour-1005166002.story)
Indeed. When I read those French entries, I thought " Maybe they're just quoting that old ass article ". On the other hand, Chino says Eros won't be anytime soon, unlike the articles.
The band's blog? The official site hasn't been updated in about a week, plus no posts on FB or Twitter, so I don't know what they are talking about.
Exactly.
Vive la france ! lol
i think this was a eros promo poster
buyed it from that motherfucker but just got a blackandwhiteshitcopy
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deftones-New-Album-Tour-Promo-Poster-Diamond-Eyes-RARE-/260730204103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb4bb2fc7#ht_1257wt_940 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deftones-New-Album-Tour-Promo-Poster-Diamond-Eyes-RARE-/260730204103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb4bb2fc7#ht_1257wt_940)
Not that rare. I have like 10 left. I got them from the street team.
Quote from: ChannelZer0 on Dec 17, 2011, 09:52 PM
Not that rare. I have like 10 left. I got them from the street team.
Gimme that
Im so tired of going on here everyday and hoping there's a huge thread by Vesanic with a million posts that says "EROS FINALLY LEAKED"
Quote from: Electron§ on Dec 27, 2011, 02:40 AM
Im so tired of going on here everyday and hoping there's a huge thread by Vesanic with a million posts that says "EROS FINALLY LEAKED"
Don't expect it to leak man. It's pretty much certain that it never will. Also don't expect the world from V, that sort of pressure ain't fair man.
Just do as I've done and accept it's never coming out. If it ever does come out I'm sure enough splooge will be sprayed all over the board that you'll hear of it quickly.
interesting article
Deftones: Why Eros Should Be Released Now Instead Of Later
01/01/2012 | by Ridge Briel | in Editorials
no comments
In November 2008, Deftones bassist Chi Cheng was traveling through Santa Clara with his sister when they suffered from a horrific accident. His sister, Mae, only suffered minor injuries. Unfortunately, Chi was ejected from the car after it rolled three times due to him not wearing a seat belt. The accident left him in coma for quite some time and he now resides in a semi-conscious state. Since then, there has been an overwhelming amount of support from people all over the world, young and old, famous and not so famous, musicians and non-musicians.
Most notable is the website http://oneloveforchi.com (http://oneloveforchi.com), which was opened about four months after the accident by Deftones fan Gina Blackmore, where people can donate towards his immense recovery fees, read any updates regarding Chi's condition, check out some of his poetry, read stories from fans, his family and other artists about their experience with Chi and how he's touched their lives, and buy merchandise that all goes to his fund.
In 2009, Korn bassist Fieldy organized a collab alternative metal song called "A Song For Chi" that included thirteen other big name music artists to all pitch in and was released for free or donation. It was recorded during Korn's "Escape From the Studio Tour," where the other individuals recorded their sections either on stage or in studios all over the world.
Dj Hefe of the nu-metal band Coma released a compilation album called From Eastern Europe With Love to help benefit Chi. In late April of that year, PETA announced that 20% of the "Happy families, not happy meals" T-shirt designed by Chi will go to the One Love For Chi Foundation. Deftones have also played numerous benefit shows as well. All of this is still not enough. Right now, he is going through a treatment program that has a 84% success rate from the International Brain Research Foundation, which anyone could imagine is very costly. Out of the donations received so far, the One Love For Chi Foundation still has $232,505 left to pay on all those bills.
Before the accident, Deftones were wrapping up the recording process for an album entitled Eros. Chino Moreno was half way done tracking his vocals over the music when the accident happened, thus resulting in the complete halt of the album. According to Chi back in 2008, he described the album as "heavy as fuck with a shitload of groove. I always say this shit, but I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty." At a surprise show at Spaceland in 2008, they played one of the songs from this album titled "Melanie" (each song title is reportedly based on a stripper's name).
The album is described as a very dark and experimental album (not like pretty much every Deftones album wasn't already experimental) with lengthy spaced-out songs, psychedelic vibes, and plenty of jamming, as described by someone who listened to the album at Revolver Magazine. The song "Dallas" was specifically compared to the song "Minerva" from their self-titled album. In a 2010 interview with fill-in bassist Sergio Vega on absolutepunk.net, he described Eros as "longer and more complex than Diamond Eyes... longer and more stuff going on..."
Interestingly enough, this was also their first album with producer Terry Date since their self titled album in 2003. They did not revisit Terry for the recording of Diamond Eyes, going instead with Nick Raskulinecz, but they used the same song-writing process, albeit more uplifting songs to cope with what happened, and avoided Pro Tools. The most unorthodox album in Deftones history has reached cult status at this point, not too much unlike Guns N Roses' Chinese Democracy album.
Now let's talk about logistics. Releasing Eros at this point and time would be a smart decision. When the first single ("Rocket Skates") was released from their last album Diamond Eyes for free download for 24 hours, the overwhelming amount of people who scrambled to get it crashed their servers. The single "Diamond Eyes" charted at the #14 spot on the Billboard US Rock Songs chart and charted on 2 other charts, while the entire album itself charted at #6 in the Billboard US chart, showing that people are still actively interested in Deftones.
The first single should be "Melanie," which only a very few select people are already familiar with. According to writer Rick Florino of artistdirect.com, who attended a show on 09-19-08, he described the song "Melanie" as "It proved simultaneously rapturous and deadly. The song's sharp riff clashed and killed, while the chorus soared. The singer lunged into the crowd, and his voice sailed across Carpenter's tidal wave of distortion during the hook. The new cut was edgy and vibrant—like all great Deftones songs are." It will no doubt catch on with the public and start building hype for the album.
As for the actual release of the album, one thing that should be observed here is the fact that they were able to shelve this album in the first place. Most major record labels are known to be notorious in refuting decisions like this, but because of Deftones status in the music world, they respected their decisions in shelving an almost complete album that Warner Bros. no doubt shelled out tens of thousands for, and that shows that they have creative power that can be flexed (if need be, though I doubt would ever come to that point) to release this album as a 100% benefit album that will go towards Chi's fees, if not that then at the very least a percentage that is higher than 45%.
To build even more hype and awareness of the album, there will be tons of coverage that will reach many people and really strike nerves and bring out emotions for those who take their time into reading or watching the story. MTV, Fuse, VH1, and other music channels will no doubt air documentary and "vide-torial" programs of the story. Music magazines and websites such as Rolling Stone, Alternative Press, Revolver, and many, many more will have editorial's and well-described press releases that will at the very least give the reader a brief, if not in-depth, view of the album and it's importance not only to Deftones, but also to the music world as a whole, but more importantly Chi Cheng himself.
However, there should be no touring behind this album, and none of the songs should be played live at any point until Chi is able to play again. One reason this album has been held out being released is, according to a statement by frontman Chino Moreno, "we don't want it to be attached to the tragedy of Chi."
But no matter what the future may hold, Eros will forever be attached to this. The release of Eros should be timed in a manner that will allow Deftones to stay dormant in their writing stage for their next album that they have stated on billboard.com that they will begin writing for shortly. Again, it should be stated by the band that they will not tour or play any songs off of the album in respect for Chi.
An idea for a deluxe edition of the album (and maybe as a separate DVD release as well) is the live recordings of the 2009 benefit concerts on November 19th and 20th. This particular performance is not only significant because of the cause, but also because of the unique covers played those nights (including System Of A Down's "Aerials," Metallica's "Battery," and Sade's "No Ordinary Love," among others).
On top of that, in almost all songs, both covers and original Deftones songs, they were joined by a sheer number of other musicians, which include ¾'s of System Of A Down, Cypress Hill, Mike Shinoda, P.O.D., Far, Robert Trujillo, Max Cavalera, Greg Puciato, Mike Muir, and many others. This will prove to be a very desirable (and emotional) viewing experience for fans all over the world to own and enjoy over and over again.
A making of the Eros album DVD cannot be overlooked. Prior to the accident, there were a total of 5 weekly studio updates that were released by the band on a blog they made specifically for the album, but stopped after the accident. This indicates that there is more behind the scenes footage that exists. Many bands put out these behind the scenes DVD's with their albums (for example Linkin Park and the deluxe edition of Meteora), and the real die-hard fans eat this stuff up. Because of the gravity of the story behind the album, this will appeal to people beyond just the die-hards as well. Other features such as interviews, commentary from the band, and fan made videos, pictures and letters taken from the One Love For Chi website can complete this DVD.
Overall, the sales of Eros can be described as this: People actively seek out new Deftones as it is. When you combine all of the fans both old and new, brand new fans who will be exposed to the album and the hype that will be shown by the various outlets mentioned earlier in this article, and people who were already aware of Chi Cheng's situation, their support will be added together and will ultimately sell well. Hell, I know there will be people that will buy this solely for the fact that it's helping someone out. I have no doubt that Eros will sell at least 80,000 copies in the first week (though I personally think it can sell 95,000), compared to Diamond Eyes selling around 60,000 copies in the first week.
If the standard edition album sells for $11.99 and it moves 60,000 copies ($719,000), and the deluxe edition sells for $19.99 and that moves 20,000 copies ($399,800), that's $1,118,800 together. If not 100% of the profits go to the One Love fund, 40% still equals $447,520. That's not counting single sales on outlets like iTunes or any merch (t-shirts, wristbands, etc).
http://mindequalsblown.net/2012/01/01/deftones-why-eros-should-be-released-now-instead-of-later/ (http://mindequalsblown.net/2012/01/01/deftones-why-eros-should-be-released-now-instead-of-later/)
that guy is a fucking genius. or he just read this thread and decided to take the ideas as his own. ;D
yeah, he sums it up really nicely
can't believe it's been over three years already
Well put together article and a great idea but there's no way you can make 100% of profits go to chi. With any release there are expenses and to even print them would take a sizable chunk out of the profit margin. Either way I hope we see this some day but I'm still of the mindset that Eros AND the chi benefit shows will NEVER be released. I would love to be proved wrong though.
He is stating a high percentage of profits going to Chi's fees. Unfortunately, in our capitalistic world, that will NEVER happen. Maybe a max of 15% because Warner wants to shows its sympathy for the band and CHI but knowing what kind of hype this album may built, I think the record label's pockets are definitely going to get heavy.
I'm pretty sure Diamond Eyes (either that or that covers record) was the last album of their contract with WB.
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 03, 2012, 11:32 PM
I'm pretty sure Diamond Eyes (either that or that covers record) was the last album of their contract with WB.
They'll still release under WB until they stop making albums. Or else they'll probably never sell albums.
Quote from: iceache on Jan 04, 2012, 05:36 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 03, 2012, 11:32 PM
I'm pretty sure Diamond Eyes (either that or that covers record) was the last album of their contract with WB.
They'll still release under WB until they stop making albums. Or else they'll probably never sell albums.
Billboard, 2010
6. HAS THE BAND CONSIDERED RELEASING FUTURE ALBUMS WITHOUT A LABEL?
Obviously, that would be something great for us -- for a lot of different reasons. But at this time we're still under contract. We don't make records too often. So it's going to take us a long time to fulfill our contract with them over the last 15 years or whatever since we started putting out records. We still have a couple more records to go that are due. When that's up, obviously we'd love to have more control over our releases.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/04/24/music-us-deftones-idUKTRE63N19H20100424 (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/04/24/music-us-deftones-idUKTRE63N19H20100424)
Quote from: luisch on Jan 04, 2012, 07:05 AM
Quote from: iceache on Jan 04, 2012, 05:36 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 03, 2012, 11:32 PM
I'm pretty sure Diamond Eyes (either that or that covers record) was the last album of their contract with WB.
They'll still release under WB until they stop making albums. Or else they'll probably never sell albums.
Billboard, 2010
6. HAS THE BAND CONSIDERED RELEASING FUTURE ALBUMS WITHOUT A LABEL?
Obviously, that would be something great for us -- for a lot of different reasons. But at this time we're still under contract. We don't make records too often. So it's going to take us a long time to fulfill our contract with them over the last 15 years or whatever since we started putting out records. We still have a couple more records to go that are due. When that's up, obviously we'd love to have more control over our releases.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/04/24/music-us-deftones-idUKTRE63N19H20100424 (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/04/24/music-us-deftones-idUKTRE63N19H20100424)
I can't see it happening. They'd lose money that way.
Quote from: vinsanity on Jan 02, 2012, 07:51 PM
interesting article
Deftones: Why Eros Should Be Released Now Instead Of Later
01/01/2012 | by Ridge Briel | in Editorials
no comments
In November 2008, Deftones bassist Chi Cheng was traveling through Santa Clara with his sister when they suffered from a horrific accident. His sister, Mae, only suffered minor injuries. Unfortunately, Chi was ejected from the car after it rolled three times due to him not wearing a seat belt. The accident left him in coma for quite some time and he now resides in a semi-conscious state. Since then, there has been an overwhelming amount of support from people all over the world, young and old, famous and not so famous, musicians and non-musicians.
Most notable is the website http://oneloveforchi.com (http://oneloveforchi.com), which was opened about four months after the accident by Deftones fan Gina Blackmore, where people can donate towards his immense recovery fees, read any updates regarding Chi's condition, check out some of his poetry, read stories from fans, his family and other artists about their experience with Chi and how he's touched their lives, and buy merchandise that all goes to his fund.
In 2009, Korn bassist Fieldy organized a collab alternative metal song called "A Song For Chi" that included thirteen other big name music artists to all pitch in and was released for free or donation. It was recorded during Korn's "Escape From the Studio Tour," where the other individuals recorded their sections either on stage or in studios all over the world.
Dj Hefe of the nu-metal band Coma released a compilation album called From Eastern Europe With Love to help benefit Chi. In late April of that year, PETA announced that 20% of the "Happy families, not happy meals" T-shirt designed by Chi will go to the One Love For Chi Foundation. Deftones have also played numerous benefit shows as well. All of this is still not enough. Right now, he is going through a treatment program that has a 84% success rate from the International Brain Research Foundation, which anyone could imagine is very costly. Out of the donations received so far, the One Love For Chi Foundation still has $232,505 left to pay on all those bills.
Before the accident, Deftones were wrapping up the recording process for an album entitled Eros. Chino Moreno was half way done tracking his vocals over the music when the accident happened, thus resulting in the complete halt of the album. According to Chi back in 2008, he described the album as "heavy as fuck with a shitload of groove. I always say this shit, but I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty." At a surprise show at Spaceland in 2008, they played one of the songs from this album titled "Melanie" (each song title is reportedly based on a stripper's name).
The album is described as a very dark and experimental album (not like pretty much every Deftones album wasn't already experimental) with lengthy spaced-out songs, psychedelic vibes, and plenty of jamming, as described by someone who listened to the album at Revolver Magazine. The song "Dallas" was specifically compared to the song "Minerva" from their self-titled album. In a 2010 interview with fill-in bassist Sergio Vega on absolutepunk.net, he described Eros as "longer and more complex than Diamond Eyes... longer and more stuff going on..."
Interestingly enough, this was also their first album with producer Terry Date since their self titled album in 2003. They did not revisit Terry for the recording of Diamond Eyes, going instead with Nick Raskulinecz, but they used the same song-writing process, albeit more uplifting songs to cope with what happened, and avoided Pro Tools. The most unorthodox album in Deftones history has reached cult status at this point, not too much unlike Guns N Roses' Chinese Democracy album.
Now let's talk about logistics. Releasing Eros at this point and time would be a smart decision. When the first single ("Rocket Skates") was released from their last album Diamond Eyes for free download for 24 hours, the overwhelming amount of people who scrambled to get it crashed their servers. The single "Diamond Eyes" charted at the #14 spot on the Billboard US Rock Songs chart and charted on 2 other charts, while the entire album itself charted at #6 in the Billboard US chart, showing that people are still actively interested in Deftones.
The first single should be "Melanie," which only a very few select people are already familiar with. According to writer Rick Florino of artistdirect.com, who attended a show on 09-19-08, he described the song "Melanie" as "It proved simultaneously rapturous and deadly. The song's sharp riff clashed and killed, while the chorus soared. The singer lunged into the crowd, and his voice sailed across Carpenter's tidal wave of distortion during the hook. The new cut was edgy and vibrant—like all great Deftones songs are." It will no doubt catch on with the public and start building hype for the album.
As for the actual release of the album, one thing that should be observed here is the fact that they were able to shelve this album in the first place. Most major record labels are known to be notorious in refuting decisions like this, but because of Deftones status in the music world, they respected their decisions in shelving an almost complete album that Warner Bros. no doubt shelled out tens of thousands for, and that shows that they have creative power that can be flexed (if need be, though I doubt would ever come to that point) to release this album as a 100% benefit album that will go towards Chi's fees, if not that then at the very least a percentage that is higher than 45%.
To build even more hype and awareness of the album, there will be tons of coverage that will reach many people and really strike nerves and bring out emotions for those who take their time into reading or watching the story. MTV, Fuse, VH1, and other music channels will no doubt air documentary and "vide-torial" programs of the story. Music magazines and websites such as Rolling Stone, Alternative Press, Revolver, and many, many more will have editorial's and well-described press releases that will at the very least give the reader a brief, if not in-depth, view of the album and it's importance not only to Deftones, but also to the music world as a whole, but more importantly Chi Cheng himself.
However, there should be no touring behind this album, and none of the songs should be played live at any point until Chi is able to play again. One reason this album has been held out being released is, according to a statement by frontman Chino Moreno, "we don't want it to be attached to the tragedy of Chi."
But no matter what the future may hold, Eros will forever be attached to this. The release of Eros should be timed in a manner that will allow Deftones to stay dormant in their writing stage for their next album that they have stated on billboard.com that they will begin writing for shortly. Again, it should be stated by the band that they will not tour or play any songs off of the album in respect for Chi.
An idea for a deluxe edition of the album (and maybe as a separate DVD release as well) is the live recordings of the 2009 benefit concerts on November 19th and 20th. This particular performance is not only significant because of the cause, but also because of the unique covers played those nights (including System Of A Down's "Aerials," Metallica's "Battery," and Sade's "No Ordinary Love," among others).
On top of that, in almost all songs, both covers and original Deftones songs, they were joined by a sheer number of other musicians, which include ¾'s of System Of A Down, Cypress Hill, Mike Shinoda, P.O.D., Far, Robert Trujillo, Max Cavalera, Greg Puciato, Mike Muir, and many others. This will prove to be a very desirable (and emotional) viewing experience for fans all over the world to own and enjoy over and over again.
A making of the Eros album DVD cannot be overlooked. Prior to the accident, there were a total of 5 weekly studio updates that were released by the band on a blog they made specifically for the album, but stopped after the accident. This indicates that there is more behind the scenes footage that exists. Many bands put out these behind the scenes DVD's with their albums (for example Linkin Park and the deluxe edition of Meteora), and the real die-hard fans eat this stuff up. Because of the gravity of the story behind the album, this will appeal to people beyond just the die-hards as well. Other features such as interviews, commentary from the band, and fan made videos, pictures and letters taken from the One Love For Chi website can complete this DVD.
Overall, the sales of Eros can be described as this: People actively seek out new Deftones as it is. When you combine all of the fans both old and new, brand new fans who will be exposed to the album and the hype that will be shown by the various outlets mentioned earlier in this article, and people who were already aware of Chi Cheng's situation, their support will be added together and will ultimately sell well. Hell, I know there will be people that will buy this solely for the fact that it's helping someone out. I have no doubt that Eros will sell at least 80,000 copies in the first week (though I personally think it can sell 95,000), compared to Diamond Eyes selling around 60,000 copies in the first week.
If the standard edition album sells for $11.99 and it moves 60,000 copies ($719,000), and the deluxe edition sells for $19.99 and that moves 20,000 copies ($399,800), that's $1,118,800 together. If not 100% of the profits go to the One Love fund, 40% still equals $447,520. That's not counting single sales on outlets like iTunes or any merch (t-shirts, wristbands, etc).
http://mindequalsblown.net/2012/01/01/deftones-why-eros-should-be-released-now-instead-of-later/ (http://mindequalsblown.net/2012/01/01/deftones-why-eros-should-be-released-now-instead-of-later/)
This article is highly uninformed.
Enlighten us then, please.
whoaa rumors!
Eros better live up to the hype its causing.
Quote from: iceache on Jan 04, 2012, 09:20 AM
I can't see it happening. They'd lose money that way.
How in the hell would they lose money getting 100% of the profits from the album? =/
Rumors is Abe.
I lost my hype on Eros btw.
I hate waiting.
Quote from: rumors on Jan 04, 2012, 03:20 PM
This article is highly uninformed.
This article is highly informed until proven otherwise
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 12, 2012, 03:41 PM
Quote from: rumors on Jan 04, 2012, 03:20 PM
This article is highly uninformed.
This article is highly informed until proven otherwise
Lol. You're gonna argue with someone in the know lol
Quote from: iceache on Jan 12, 2012, 07:42 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 12, 2012, 03:41 PM
Quote from: rumors on Jan 04, 2012, 03:20 PM
This article is highly uninformed.
This article is highly informed until proven otherwise
Lol. You're gonna argue with someone in the know lol
you gotta admit that only saying "LOL DIS IS BULSHTI GUIZE" is kind of iffy, i'd like to know why this is highly uninformed
but i get it, rumors has to maintain his super mystery internet persona
damn, rumors is one helluva tease. i'd like to know why that article is so damn uninformed too.
WHO'S that girl ?
Quote from: defburn on Jan 13, 2012, 08:02 AM
WHO'S that girl ?
girl in my avatar is gogo blackwater. girl in my sig is vivid vivka. :)
;)
fap fap fap
Quote from: Penicks on Jan 12, 2012, 08:06 PM
you gotta admit that only saying "LOL DIS IS BULSHTI GUIZE" is kind of iffy, i'd like to know why this is highly uninformed
Maybe Vesanic or some of the other guys can chime in here.
How complete is Eros? I've heard accounts it's basically all recorded and just needs to be mixed and mastered. However my understanding is it's not even complete and things (may it be vocals, additional recording) need to be done to properly finish the "album", before mixing and mastering is even considered. Ironically enough... I don't think I've read nor heard an interview conducted with Stef about the fate of Eros. I know Abe, Chino and Frank have commented on the matter. I think the big guy holds the answers.
But with them playing Melanie live, when they did, and in interviews saying "it's shelved and one day..." maybe hints towards a more completed project.
On a side thought: maybe they don't want to release it because there are a striking amount of elements (as proved by Beauty School and the Eros Vlogs) that made it to Diamond Eyes, so it might appear as an album in two different takes? As a musician, I think this is plausible, because I (and many others) have encountered the situation where songs sound similar or contain riffs/phrases that are in fact the same. I'm actually dealing with this situation on 2 songs I just recorded.
But I know Chino recently stated that they didn't want Eros to be attributed to Chi's tragedy. But either way you spin it, it will because I'm afraid it may be his last performance. I really hope I'm wrong and Chi can make a full recovery to the point, it feels as though nothing happened, although realisticall from my research, it's likely to not happen.
Ok I'm done being an investigative journalist. ;D
music was done, vocals were about half way done i think.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 18, 2012, 03:23 AM
music was done, vocals were about half way done i think.
Yup, that's the official version. The music is ready and has to be mixed (I think), and there's half of the vocals.
Awesome thanks guys!
Anyone gather it maybe a mixture between Self Titled and Diamond Eyes? My gut feeling says so, but honestly I'm hoping it's something that blows everything else out of the water.
Quote from: ineedtofuckingsearch on Jan 13, 2012, 03:14 PM
Quote from: defburn on Jan 13, 2012, 08:02 AM
WHO'S that girl ?
girl in my avatar is gogo blackwater. girl in my sig is vivid vivka. :)
she s not a pornstar,right?
(i hope she is)
Quote from: Robotsatemygrandma on Jan 18, 2012, 08:29 AM
Awesome thanks guys!
Anyone gather it maybe a mixture between Self Titled and Diamond Eyes? My gut feeling says so, but honestly I'm hoping it's something that blows everything else out of the water.
Thats kind of what I gathered as well.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jan 18, 2012, 09:09 AM
Quote from: ineedtofuckingsearch on Jan 13, 2012, 03:14 PM
Quote from: defburn on Jan 13, 2012, 08:02 AM
WHO'S that girl ?
girl in my avatar is gogo blackwater. girl in my sig is vivid vivka. :)
she s not a pornstar,right?
(i hope she is)
nah man, she's not in any films that i know of. but she does a lot of nude modeling. she's on suicidegirls, zivity and a few other sites. she has a lot of her stuff on deviantart, too (http://pinkeye.deviantart.com/ (http://pinkeye.deviantart.com/)). ;)
Quote from: ineedtofuckingsearch on Jan 22, 2012, 05:29 PM
nah man, she's not in any films that i know of...
Then she's useless to me.. =/
She made me search, that's for sure. Nice girl ;)
I heard someone on the web saying that eros leaked, and that this is the tracklist, i don't know if it's legit:
1.Dallas 2.Uni-King 3.Trempest 4.Capital Punishment 5. 01011101 6.Melanie 7.Deus Ex 8.The Voiceless 9.Destiny 10.Gemini 11.Skeletal Remains
Source?
LOL
Ok, I googled it.
?
Anyway, that tracklisting seems phony to me.
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 12, 2012, 07:49 AM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16968.0.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16968.0.html)
Quote from: Penicks on Feb 12, 2012, 11:51 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 12, 2012, 07:49 AM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16968.0.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16968.0.html)
whoa im 2 years behind..
thanks for the correction!
If that is from Eros, I wouldn't mind, it actually sounds kinda sick, and the production of the drums sound like Abe's, and the vocals are kind of similar to Chino's high note, even the guitars dont sound that different from Stephens, I noticed that when I listened to the sample then went straight into "Damone", I automatically noticed the similarity, even the effects sound a little like the ones Frank uses on Diamond Eyes.
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 12, 2012, 07:49 AM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??
no way to tell
Quote from: juvenile on Feb 13, 2012, 02:00 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 12, 2012, 07:49 AM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??
no way to tell
Except.. it's not hard to tell at all...
That sucks.
Quote from: iceache on Feb 13, 2012, 03:41 AM
Quote from: juvenile on Feb 13, 2012, 02:00 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 12, 2012, 07:49 AM
found this http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav (http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.php?get=684960433.wav)
Deftones EROS leaked? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0#)
is this deftones or not??
no way to tell
Except.. it's not hard to tell at all...
That sucks.
The only thing that really sucks about it is that little low guitar sound in the background which gives it a bit of an almost country influence, which doesn't sound Deftones at all and is just stupid anyways, but minus that, I think its possible.
That song came from a CD someone found in a club a few years back.... If I remember correctly someone wrote Deftones on the CD in marker and it had like 5 tracks on it. So when someone on this forum found it he thought it was EROS but when he uploaded the other songs It was not at all Deftones. Maybe Vesanic can back me on this....?
Update: Penicks Posted the link to that thread I was talking about a few post up !
If I'm correct, he posted a second track and indeed, it didn't sound like Deftones at all. However, I must admit the first one sounds incredibly like them, music AND production wise.
Well Here is my 2 cents. First, a little about me, so you know where i am coming from. Deftones have been my fav band since i was 12 years old. I am now 26. I have heard everything they have done, with the exception of Eros and maybe one or 2 lost b sides. Vesanic will verify for you, if need be that i know my shit. I believe that this is deftones, here is why. The drums are definitely Abe Cunningham, the sound, the rhythm everything about it screams Abe. The synth sounds like Franks to me. Guitars sounds more like Chinos style of playing then Stefs but it could be him playing. The vocal part could also definitely be Chino. Now i dont think this is from Eros, however it could be. Chino claimed that Stef was the only person playing guitar on Eros, but in the studio videos Chino himself can be seen in the videos playing guitar so i dont know why he said only stef was playing guitar. So with that in mind it could be from the Eros sessions. You can also take in to account this information which was given to me by Mr. Shaun Lopez of Far/ Crosses: He told me that the album was very trippy and ambient and reminiscent of Pink Floyd, but also it was by far the heaviest material that they had written. He told me that he preferred what he heard on Eros over what came out to be Diamond Eyes. So there you go, take is as you will, this is just my opinion of what i heard in the clip
sounds amazing whoever it is
Quote from: kitesvera on Feb 14, 2012, 08:22 PM
Well Here is my 2 cents. First, a little about me, so you know where i am coming from. Deftones have been my fav band since i was 12 years old. I am now 26. I have heard everything they have done, with the exception of Eros and maybe one or 2 lost b sides. Vesanic will verify for you, if need be that i know my shit. I believe that this is deftones, here is why. The drums are definitely Abe Cunningham, the sound, the rhythm everything about it screams Abe. The synth sounds like Franks to me. Guitars sounds more like Chinos style of playing then Stefs but it could be him playing. The vocal part could also definitely be Chino. Now i dont think this is from Eros, however it could be. Chino claimed that Stef was the only person playing guitar on Eros, but in the studio videos Chino himself can be seen in the videos playing guitar so i dont know why he said only stef was playing guitar. So with that in mind it could be from the Eros sessions. You can also take in to account this information which was given to me by Mr. Shaun Lopez of Far/ Crosses: He told me that the album was very trippy and ambient and reminiscent of Pink Floyd, but also it was by far the heaviest material that they had written. He told me that he preferred what he heard on Eros over what came out to be Diamond Eyes. So there you go, take is as you will, this is just my opinion of what i heard in the clip
Yes, yes and yes. Just one thing though, Chino was playing bass in the Eros videos, if I'm correct.
I noticed that in this video....
Deftones eros in studio 2008 clip 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyH1v7RF5H4#)
....In the background you can hear some heavily distorted guitar, with no drums or bass it seems.
At first I thought maybe they were just listening to the radio or a CD or whatever while playing cards, but I think its kind of interesting how you hear no drums, and Abe is sitting right there, then at the end of the video, randomly says "Thats a song... lets check it" and leaves, almost as if hes realizing its his time to rehearse some drum parts for the song. As for who's playing the guitar (since Steph's sitting right there), its clearly Chino, going it alone in the studio.
Sounds pretty sick....
Quote from: gunsrazorsknives on Feb 13, 2012, 09:51 PM
That song came from a CD someone found in a club a few years back.... If I remember correctly someone wrote Deftones on the CD in marker and it had like 5 tracks on it. So when someone on this forum found it he thought it was EROS but when he uploaded the other songs It was not at all Deftones. Maybe Vesanic can back me on this....?
Update: Penicks Posted the link to that thread I was talking about a few post up !
So where can we find the rest of the tracks? I wanna listen to them
I think its kinda interesting how in this video Chino kinda fucks up his words a few times when trying to describe the time period between Eros and Diamond Eyes.
Deftones Interview '09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTcw_nWmSs4#ws)
"We recorded another version of the record-or uh...not a version of the record....another record which was titled Eros..."
"We stepped away from the studio for a little while, before finishing it, and when we decided to continue on, when Sergio came in, we started writing more songs."
yes, interesting. I piss myself laughing at Abe every time i've seen this interview! ;D He's like ::) shut the fuck up Chino.
Yes, yes and yes. Just one thing though, Chino was playing bass in the Eros videos, if I'm correct.
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At the begining of that video thats is posted above hes playing one of stefs ESP guitars, not a bass. Dont know about the other videos cuz i havent seen them in so long...
....In the background you can hear some heavily distorted guitar, with no drums or bass it seems.
At first I thought maybe they were just listening to the radio or a CD or whatever while playing cards, but I think its kind of interesting how you hear no drums, and Abe is sitting right there, then at the end of the video, randomly says "Thats a song... lets check it" and leaves, almost as if hes realizing its his time to rehearse some drum parts for the song. As for who's playing the guitar (since Steph's sitting right there), its clearly Chino, going it alone in the studio.
Sounds pretty sick....
Abe actually says "there's a song" he's referencing "the gambler" by kenny rogers to go along with what Steph is talking about.
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Quote from: kitesvera on Feb 15, 2012, 08:25 PM
At the begining of that video thats is posted above hes playing one of stefs ESP guitars, not a bass. Dont know about the other videos cuz i havent seen them in so long...
It's way too blurry to be sure but it really looks like a bass to me. And I think the fact he was playing a bass had been discussed back when these videos appeared. I could be wrong, of course.
I must say the drums sound just like Abe yes...
Quote from: tarkil on Feb 16, 2012, 02:06 PM
I must say the drums sound just like Abe yes...
this +1
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 16, 2012, 05:05 PM
Quote from: tarkil on Feb 16, 2012, 02:06 PM
I must say the drums sound just like Abe yes...
this +1
The drums do sound like abe but the guitar and bass is something deftones have NEVER done. Again, they always recreate some unique sounds on each record so who knows...
Quote from: juvenile on Feb 17, 2012, 01:16 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 16, 2012, 05:05 PM
Quote from: tarkil on Feb 16, 2012, 02:06 PM
I must say the drums sound just like Abe yes...
this +1
The drums do sound like abe but the guitar and bass is something deftones have NEVER done. Again, they always recreate some unique sounds on each record so who knows...
i think the guitar is quite like Feiticera, which is, the one and only, Stephen Carpenter.
I read this article , pretty recent, that says they should release Eros, or at least a song or two, to help pay off Chi's medical expenses. I mean, think about that, they're already working on a new album so when that comes out, the other members won't have to worry about money or anything. So all of those proceeds will go to Chi's medical bills, which we all know his family is struggling to pay. It probably won't pay ALL of the money off, but it will sure as hell help them a lot. After hearing that view, I'm actually surprised Deftones HAVEN'T done that.
Quote from: hole-in-the-earth on Feb 21, 2012, 09:01 PM
I read this article , pretty recent, that says they should release Eros, or at least a song or two, to help pay off Chi's medical expenses. I mean, think about that, they're already working on a new album so when that comes out, the other members won't have to worry about money or anything. So all of those proceeds will go to Chi's medical bills, which we all know his family is struggling to pay. It probably won't pay ALL of the money off, but it will sure as hell help them a lot. After hearing that view, I'm actually surprised Deftones HAVEN'T done that.
It's not their decision.
Yeah, I suppose your right, there's also personal matters involved too... And the fact that they would want Chi to finish the work he started at his own pace. Makes sense either way, I guess.
Quote from: iceache on Feb 21, 2012, 10:00 PM
Quote from: hole-in-the-earth on Feb 21, 2012, 09:01 PM
I read this article , pretty recent, that says they should release Eros, or at least a song or two, to help pay off Chi's medical expenses. I mean, think about that, they're already working on a new album so when that comes out, the other members won't have to worry about money or anything. So all of those proceeds will go to Chi's medical bills, which we all know his family is struggling to pay. It probably won't pay ALL of the money off, but it will sure as hell help them a lot. After hearing that view, I'm actually surprised Deftones HAVEN'T done that.
It's not their decision.
The Record Label owns the rights to Eros and let's face it, despite them knowing what CHI's situation is, not a single dime will go his way.
This whole Eros situation has got me thinking. Diamond eyes did extremely well for the Label and the band and their next album, hoping its amazin and hard hitting as diamond eyes will setup a very revenue rewarding marketing campaign for Eros. For example, they can say it is the long-awaited delayed album of deftones which people will flock to buy.
Yeah! There's an idea... Record companies suck so much... But what are you gonna do, I guess, right? Maybe Deftones should go independent?
Quote from: hole-in-the-earth on Feb 21, 2012, 09:01 PM
I read this article , pretty recent, that says they should release Eros, or at least a song or two, to help pay off Chi's medical expenses. I mean, think about that, they're already working on a new album so when that comes out, the other members won't have to worry about money or anything. So all of those proceeds will go to Chi's medical bills, which we all know his family is struggling to pay. It probably won't pay ALL of the money off, but it will sure as hell help them a lot. After hearing that view, I'm actually surprised Deftones HAVEN'T done that.
Wait.... so they've openly stated their thinking about releasing Eros (or a song or two as you said) for Chi?
Yea, and Entertain Me has a release date.
#LOL
Noooothey haven't said that. I was referring to an earlier post.. But they have said they want to release it at some point, preferable when Chi's wakes up and is ready to play again.
Quote from: hole-in-the-earth on Feb 22, 2012, 08:08 PM
Noooothey haven't said that. I was referring to an earlier post.. But they have said they want to release it at some point, preferable when Chi's wakes up and is ready to play again.
Yes this is completely true.
Regarding that snippet that sounds like something off of Eros... it's not. Nor is it Deftones. C'mon now, guys...
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Feb 23, 2012, 03:57 AM
Regarding that snippet that sounds like something off of Eros... it's not. Nor is it Deftones. C'mon now, guys...
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Feb 23, 2012, 03:57 AM
Regarding that snippet that sounds like something off of Eros... it's not. Nor is it Deftones. C'mon now, guys...
doesn't even sound like them.
Quote from: iceache on Feb 23, 2012, 04:34 AM
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Feb 23, 2012, 03:57 AM
Regarding that snippet that sounds like something off of Eros... it's not. Nor is it Deftones. C'mon now, guys...
doesn't even sound like them.
But then again, if you heard a snippet of "Xerces" or "Lucky You" when Adrenaline was out, you wouldn't think it was Deftones either. This is just how Deftones are, constantly evolving their already unique sound, which is in my opinion, one of the biggest reasons its entirely possible this could have been produced by them.
Quote from: hole-in-the-earth on Feb 22, 2012, 08:08 PM
Noooothey haven't said that. I was referring to an earlier post.. But they have said they want to release it at some point, preferable when Chi's wakes up and is ready to play again.
Oh I know which post you're talking about, but I got excited and wanted to think you meant it was confirmed.... :'(
Quote from: Electron§ on Feb 23, 2012, 06:01 AM
Quote from: iceache on Feb 23, 2012, 04:34 AM
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Feb 23, 2012, 03:57 AM
Regarding that snippet that sounds like something off of Eros... it's not. Nor is it Deftones. C'mon now, guys...
doesn't even sound like them.
But then again, if you heard a snippet of "Xerces" or "Lucky You" when Adrenaline was out, you wouldn't think it was Deftones either. This is just how Deftones are, constantly evolving their already unique sound, which is in my opinion, one of the biggest reasons its entirely possible this could have been produced by them.
It sounds more like God is an Astronaut to me, that clip. But the production isn't anywhere near Deftones quality, even for a demo. Listen to that guitar, that is not Stef's rig at all. Sounds amateur. Remember I even posted some of my clips a couple years back saying it was Deftones and everyone bought it until I said it was actually me.
Edit: and now that thread was removed and I had a hard drive crash and I totally don't remember how my songs went hahaha. So that's my fault I guess hahaha.
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)
found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.
That sounds nothing like Deftones to me. Certainly not Abe.
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 29, 2012, 07:42 PM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)
found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.
That sounds NOTHING like deftones.
Abe would NEVER play double kick like that. They would never produce guitar sounds that shitty.
It COULD be Deftones, but it's not them. Whoever that is, I need to find out, I think it's pretty cool.
if you were going to leak eros, why on earth would you leak such minor clips that prove nothing. it is total bs and in my opinion neither of the clips have anything to do with deftones or eros, just some bored individual releasing clips from their garage band and calling them deftones.
;Dyep BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ;D
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 29, 2012, 07:42 PM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)
found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.
ITs not deftones. fo sho
Quote from: Vesanic on Feb 29, 2012, 09:42 PM
It COULD be Deftones, but it's not them. Whoever that is, I need to find out, I think it's pretty cool.
yeah, i like the mood
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 29, 2012, 07:42 PM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)
found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.
The effects sound like the ones at the beginning of "Lovers", the drums actually kinda sound like Abe's production, but the style of it is different than his usual, but then again Eros was supposed to have pretty crazy drums, right? I think its possible, but idk. Its hard to tell, but I really actually like it. I hope its Deftones.
I'm pretty sure it's not. Even tried to place it with the stuff we heard them playing during the Eros sessions, doesn't fit. That other piece of music posted a week or two ago that most doubted sounded more like them than this. And personally, I hope it isn't Deftones. If u like it, then good because it is a whole new band for u to explore. ;)
it's the same effect frank uses in rats, in the opening riff and in the"i won't say nothing, not a fucking thing" - part. you can also hear it in the everything is fine part. other than that effect, it doesn't sound like deftones i think
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Mar 02, 2012, 09:08 AM
I'm pretty sure it's not. Even tried to place it with the stuff we heard them playing during the Eros sessions, doesn't fit. That other piece of music posted a week or two ago that most doubted sounded more like them than this. And personally, I hope it isn't Deftones. If u like it, then good because it is a whole new band for u to explore. ;)
I placed it with the other Eros stuff myself, I think it fits pretty good.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 02, 2012, 09:11 AM
it's the same effect frank uses in rats, in the opening riff and in the"i won't say nothing, not a fucking thing" - part. you can also hear it in the everything is fine part. other than that effect, it doesn't sound like deftones i think
Didn't even think of that song, but yeah it does sound like that effect a bit.
Quote from: iceache on Feb 29, 2012, 09:17 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 29, 2012, 07:42 PM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)
found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.
That sounds NOTHING like deftones.
Abe would NEVER play double kick like that. They would never produce guitar sounds that shitty.
Abe played a double kick in "When Girls Telephone Boys" if im not mistaken, and also I think the guitar indeed does sound like it could be within the range of Stephen, maybe a little fuzzier than usual, but even so, the riff sounds like something he would write. Maybe its not even from Eros. Maybe if it is Deftones at all, its a b-side/demo/rehearsal, from a past era.
That sounds wayyy to different, for me at least, to be Deftones. The drumming doesn't sound at all like Abe, and the guitar playing doesn't sound like Stephen. But the effect kinda sound like Frank. Like the title said, Who Knows?
.....just release the fucking thing already
Any news?
This is kind of a stupid thing to mention, but I think since every album seems to have a *color* which has emphasis in the vinyls, Im gonna go out on a limb and say an Eros vinyl would have been purple? It seems like some of the promotional stuff around that era was purple.
If that was Deftones, I'd have been happy with that direction.
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 29, 2012, 07:42 PM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)
found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.
Take away the double kick pattern in the beginning and it does have an air about it that resembles something the Sacto boys would do.
Damn my mind goes wild and geeks out wondering what Eros sounds like. Be funny if they went all cryptic and released it the day the world is supposed to end. Wasn't there a lot of discussion about the Deftones and Occult themes going on awhile ago?
Quote from: Robotsatemygrandma on Mar 20, 2012, 09:34 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 29, 2012, 07:42 PM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)
found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.
Take away the double kick pattern in the beginning and it does have an air about it that resembles something the Sacto boys would do.
Damn my mind goes wild and geeks out wondering what Eros sounds like. Be funny if they went all cryptic and released it the day the world is supposed to end. Wasn't there a lot of discussion about the Deftones and Occult themes going on awhile ago?
Obviously (hopefully, anyways) they are not Nostradamus just musicians. LOLZ The occult thing ends at image and influence. Cmon now
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Mar 21, 2012, 06:27 AM
Quote from: Robotsatemygrandma on Mar 20, 2012, 09:34 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 29, 2012, 07:42 PM
deftones Eros? #2 who knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-6bKCHyXYI#)
found this on YouTube.
same drum sound but this one is kinda weird, not sure it was Abe or not.
Take away the double kick pattern in the beginning and it does have an air about it that resembles something the Sacto boys would do.
Damn my mind goes wild and geeks out wondering what Eros sounds like. Be funny if they went all cryptic and released it the day the world is supposed to end. Wasn't there a lot of discussion about the Deftones and Occult themes going on awhile ago?
Obviously (hopefully, anyways) they are not Nostradamus just musicians. LOLZ The occult thing ends at image and influence. Cmon now
With Glassjaw going all "we gonna release this shit on (insert specifically calculated date &/or repetitive number 1/1/11 for example)" I was maybe wondering if the Tones were thinking of doing something similar. But I think the only similarity between the two (other then being bad ass) is use of obscure images.
Random thought anyways.
i made a Deftones - Eros cover in 2008.
Just for trolling
I wrote ''In stores at March 2032''
Now God trolls me, i guess
EDIT: I fuckin found it, lol
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3066/deftoneseros2.jpg)
;)Sorry, this thread was getting dry. And I will get a hard on at 500 posts, I will finally be halfway out of the peasant status! ;D jk April fools 4 days after!
What was supposed to be the cover of Eros? Abe mentioned all the packaging art was finished or about to be finished I think, I'm curious to see the cover..... Was it a picture of something? Or was it just drawn, etc.?
Quote from: Electron§ on Apr 07, 2012, 02:04 PM
What was supposed to be the cover of Eros? Abe mentioned all the packaging art was finished or about to be finished I think, I'm curious to see the cover..... Was it a picture of something? Or was it just drawn, etc.?
I don't think there was ever anything really made available but for a while the logo on the deftones store had changed to this kinda cupid like picture. I always imagined it would be more romantic kind of art like that picture of the madonna with the heart and all the knives in it... or something like that. I haven't seen either of those in ages so if anyone has them, please share. My descriptions are probably not much help.
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2479/sanstitre1on.png)
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Apr 08, 2012, 06:10 AM
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2479/sanstitre1on.png)
This would be dope.. Fan made or official.
That picture looks pretty somber, which reinforces my thoughts that Eros was going to be kind of a self titled part 2.
I think it was what they used for the Deftones.com background + links
Quote from: iceache on Apr 09, 2012, 07:30 PM
I think it was what they used for the Deftones.com background + links
Correct.
Which one of the known Eros songs was/is everyone excited to hear the final/studio/full version of? The one in clip #3 fucking makes my brain explode. It sounds almost it could be a Tool song. So much bass and those drums are pretty awesome. I can imagine now Chino screaming over that riff.
;D
When I first heard Melanie I thought ''What a cool song - I can't wait, in a few weeks/months I'll be listening to the studio version on my new copy of Eros.''
Little did I know :(
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Apr 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
When I first heard Melanie I thought ''What a cool song - I can't wait, in a few weeks/months I'll be listening to the studio version on my new copy of Eros.''
Little did I know :(
Same thing here... and talking about Melanie have you noticed that Steph played that song live on a 7 strings guitar but in all Eros studio clips he is playing an 8 strings... i wonder why.
PS. My guesssing: Maybe he didnt want to take his 8 strings guitar on tour just to play one single song.
It would be nice if someone could take the stuff we know from Eros and fix it up a little, so we can at least have our own little idea of how those songs would sound all nice and mastered.
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Quote from: pinkmaggit on Apr 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
When I first heard Melanie I thought ''What a cool song - I can't wait, in a few weeks/months I'll be listening to the studio version on my new copy of Eros.''
Little did I know :(
Same thing here... and talking about Melanie have you noticed that Steph played that song live on a 7 strings guitar but in all Eros studio clips he is playing an 8 strings... i wonder why.
PS. My guesssing: Maybe he didnt want to take his 8 strings guitar on tour just to play one single song.
That could be the case. Now that I've heard the 8 string, imagine how heavy it'll sound on Eros?!
I really want listen Chi playin' guitar..
Chi played some guitar on Eros?! What????
No, Abe did. Y they scrapped it.
And then Frank did vocals right?
Quote from: Electron§ on May 14, 2012, 12:15 AM
Chi played some guitar on Eros?! What????
Check it out this interview, 2008
¿Are you playing all the guitars on the album?No, Chino plays guitars on songs, too. Actually, we have this huge identity crisis in our band, I thnk. I play bass on some songs, I play keyboards on a couple songs and obviously I play guitar; Chino plays guitars and plays bass on a song. And on this record, Chi wants to explore his creative roots, so now he's playing guitar on a couple songs. Abe's obviously just playing drums; I'm like, "Abe, why don't you step out and grab a keyboard, man? Let me get back there, I'll throw a beat down; mix it up." Our attitude when we're jamming, you know we're just having fun, goofing around. And I don't mean goofing around like it doesn't matter; like have fun with it, it's music. I think if you stick to a certain set of rules all the time in music, you're limiting the music. Because you don't know what really can happen or what can came out if you just kind of let go and let it be what it's gonna be.Ultimate Guitar (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/deftones_theres_more_of_a_melodic_side_on_new_album.html)
Luis is right. In the intro of the Eros videos, you can see Chino holding a bass guitar and Chi holding a guitar, if I'm correct.
That just made me hard abt Eros once again, damn it! Record just sounds idk.....I guess unimaginable still. In a great way ::)
i was told that they were gonna do eros but idk what to believe anymore i need some update its been a while since ive been here and i feel real lost and stupid lol
Quote from: momo on May 21, 2012, 10:12 AM
i was told that they were gonna do eros but idk what to believe anymore i need some update its been a while since ive been here and i feel real lost and stupid lol
read thru about the last 42 pages....don't believe it all tho. old news buddy
The fact that Chi is playing guitar on Eros is all the more reason why they should release it soon.
I always thought it was very cool how intricate the song in the beginning of the Eros clips sounded, the drums and guitars and bass all kind of like go against each other, in a good way of course. When I first heard that it hyped me up so much because I thought it sounded alot like At the Drive In.
Its kind of sad that everyones given up on this.... I mean theres not much we can do but.... Everyones so distracted by the prospect of the new album... We've lost sight of Eros....
Quote from: Electron§ on Jun 28, 2012, 06:37 AM
Its kind of sad that everyones given up on this.... I mean theres not much we can do but.... Everyones so distracted by the prospect of the new album... We've lost sight of Eros....
i swear to you, if you ever get to hear eros, it won't be anywhere near as good as you think it is. i would guess there are some dope songs on it, no doubt, but i can't see how it can live up to the insane hype it has gotten. we will have new deftones music soon though, why not focus on that for now? we can go back to eros later 8)
Quote from: from_musings on Jun 29, 2012, 04:18 PM
i swear to you, if you ever get to hear eros, it won't be anywhere near as good as you think it is.
Well I agree with that, but I really hope there is an off chance that I fall madly in love with it just like i did with s/t and snw (when i first heard a few songs from that album).
i'm sure we will dig it, just not as much as we think, due to the hype. i don't think we will hear it during deftones active years though, maybe they will release it after they split up, like misfits released their scrapped static age album after they disbanded. or, eros will rot away in a safe forever
http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q (http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q)
Dunno if these small snippets have ever been surfaced (My bad if they have) but I figured it would be something to spark this thread back up... Hope the new album has a similar dark grungy sound that Stef is doing here in this Eros session..
Quote from: deftoner664 on Jul 27, 2012, 11:19 PM
http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q (http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q)
Dunno if these small snippets have ever been surfaced (My bad if they have) but I figured it would be something to spark this thread back up... Hope the new album has a similar dark grungy sound that Stef is doing here in this Eros session..
yeah buddy, these snippets have been available for 4 years. This guy just compiled them into one video.
On a side note, Eros is the last thing on my mind. We are going to be hearing brand new material at any time now.
Even with the new album creeping it's way here, and even with all the hype, I believe there is something here that we're all anticipating. I'm excited as hell for October 9th to come, but it doesn't down my eagerness for Chi to wake up/Eros being released. Each album has diversified the band's sound, I need Eros.
Quote from: deftoner664 on Jul 27, 2012, 11:19 PM
http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q (http://youtu.be/hiziwCc3A9Q)
Dunno if these small snippets have ever been surfaced (My bad if they have) but I figured it would be something to spark this thread back up... Hope the new album has a similar dark grungy sound that Stef is doing here in this Eros session..
whoa never heard of this before! great find!
Rosemary to me is the vibe I'd imagine to get frm Eros. I guess heavier, but it has that dark and slightly more experimental vibe to it. Honestly, I think ppl would be disappointed if we gt to hear Eros. I dont say that because of the music, but purely because it's been hyped up and anticipated for yrs that I doubt it'd really live up to anyone's expectations.
We'll never hear it anyway so let's just be happy with what we've got.
Expectations as far as what? Who said it was the best fawkin record ever anyways? All I expected was for it to be released so as far as being dissappointed, it would have to be thinner that DE for me. Expectations are in your imaginations. It's just another record they wrote that never was released. Not a record they wrote that you should expect to be pure bliss just because it was locked up or Chi jammed on it. :)
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jul 29, 2012, 07:50 PM
Expectations as far as what? Who said it was the best fawkin record ever anyways? All I expected was for it to be released so as far as being dissappointed, it would have to be thinner that DE for me. Expectations are in your imaginations. It's just another record they wrote that never was released. Not a record they wrote that you should expect to be pure bliss just because it was locked up or Chi jammed on it. :)
I simply want to hear it.
Don't know if anyone here is familiar with the band Beak, but the old synthy ""You've Seen the Butcher" song from deftones' myspace in 08 sounds vaguely like their song Yatton.
This is really just an excuse for me to play it.
Beak - "Yatton" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoRYlIDWzpk#)
doblepost
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 29, 2012, 07:04 PM
We'll never hear it anyway so let's just be happy with what we've got.
I dunno about that... Chino said that once Chi is back on his feet, he hopes to take him back out on the road again with Eros under their belt. Come to think of it, the tracks on Eros were tentatively titled after stripper's names, right? I wonder if Rosemary would've been a track they initially planned to release with Eros.
Quote from: x Rx King x on Aug 01, 2012, 01:15 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 29, 2012, 07:04 PM
We'll never hear it anyway so let's just be happy with what we've got.
I dunno about that... Chino said that once Chi is back on his feet, he hopes to take him back out on the road again with Eros under their belt. Come to think of it, the tracks on Eros were tentatively titled after stripper's names, right? I wonder if Rosemary would've been a track they initially planned to release with Eros.
I don't expect that Chi will ever be on his feet...
Quote from: iceache on Aug 01, 2012, 01:35 AM
Quote from: x Rx King x on Aug 01, 2012, 01:15 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 29, 2012, 07:04 PM
We'll never hear it anyway so let's just be happy with what we've got.
I dunno about that... Chino said that once Chi is back on his feet, he hopes to take him back out on the road again with Eros under their belt. Come to think of it, the tracks on Eros were tentatively titled after stripper's names, right? I wonder if Rosemary would've been a track they initially planned to release with Eros.
I don't expect that Chi will ever be on his feet...
I personally think he will and on a side note, let's be positive about this situation. I mean, would you like something to think about you that way?
Rosemary could be a stripper's name and there is no Eros material on this record but it doesn't necessarily mean the new stuff isn't influenced by it. I am sensing a small influence but mostly SNW from what we've heard.
I don't think they would have Sergio have any credit toward something Chi didn't get to launch (if they were to, maybe Melanie since we've heard it) I say this because they didn't release it due to the fact that he's down right now let alone use material from Eros to add to this one. It's almost obvious they would never do it I think anyways.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jul 29, 2012, 07:50 PM
Expectations as far as what? Who said it was the best fawkin record ever anyways? All I expected was for it to be released so as far as being dissappointed, it would have to be thinner that DE for me. Expectations are in your imaginations. It's just another record they wrote that never was released. Not a record they wrote that you should expect to be pure bliss just because it was locked up or Chi jammed on it. :)
Generally though when they haven't decided to officially release something, that means its mind blowing. Look at stuff like a few gems from the SNW demos, and some songs like "The Boys Republic" or "Lovers". They just didn't put them on an album for some reason and they were near perfect, and yet they can release now crap like "Diamond Eyes" and come behind it with total confidence? Seems a little ass backwards to me, so I will expect Eros to be at least pretty decent for now, because most of the little bits of what I heard I pretty much felt was solid and sounded pretty fucking epic.
Quote from: Electron§ on Aug 01, 2012, 08:17 AM
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jul 29, 2012, 07:50 PM
Expectations as far as what? Who said it was the best fawkin record ever anyways? All I expected was for it to be released so as far as being dissappointed, it would have to be thinner that DE for me. Expectations are in your imaginations. It's just another record they wrote that never was released. Not a record they wrote that you should expect to be pure bliss just because it was locked up or Chi jammed on it. :)
Generally though when they haven't decided to officially release something, that means its mind blowing. Look at stuff like a few gems from the SNW demos, and some songs like "The Boys Republic" or "Lovers". They just didn't put them on an album for some reason and they were near perfect, and yet they can release now crap like "Diamond Eyes" and come behind it with total confidence? Seems a little ass backwards to me, so I will expect Eros to be at least pretty decent for now, because most of the little bits of what I heard I pretty much felt was solid and sounded pretty fucking epic.
I think if a band writes mind blowing music, they tend to officially release it.
Quote from: snw9 on Aug 01, 2012, 03:52 AM
Quote from: iceache on Aug 01, 2012, 01:35 AM
Quote from: x Rx King x on Aug 01, 2012, 01:15 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 29, 2012, 07:04 PM
We'll never hear it anyway so let's just be happy with what we've got.
I dunno about that... Chino said that once Chi is back on his feet, he hopes to take him back out on the road again with Eros under their belt. Come to think of it, the tracks on Eros were tentatively titled after stripper's names, right? I wonder if Rosemary would've been a track they initially planned to release with Eros.
I don't expect that Chi will ever be on his feet...
I personally think he will and on a side note, let's be positive about this situation. I mean, would you like something to think about you that way?
Rosemary could be a stripper's name and there is no Eros material on this record but it doesn't necessarily mean the new stuff isn't influenced by it. I am sensing a small influence but mostly SNW from what we've heard.
I'm being as positive as I can. But it's hard to believe that he's ever going to function like normal again from what we've seen so far. Right now. He's basically a vegetable. And it's a sad thing to see. I'm just saying. I wouldn't get your hopes up for him ever being back in the band. I think him speaking again would be a great accomplishment.
Okay, "Entertain Me" leaked, must mean this is next..... COME ON, COME ON, COME ON, ITS ALREADY BEEN FOUR YEARS
I believe Entertain Me is NOT leaked, but released by its owner over the internet..
"I've been contacted by the band management about the Deftones documentary "Entertain Me" leakage. They asked that the link be taken down as the film was never approved by concerned parties, nor was it entirely completed. The film, as it is now, was never meant to be released by any means in any public forum."
Quote from: pony_01 on Aug 28, 2012, 07:02 AM
I believe Entertain Me is NOT leaked, but released by its owner over the internet..
Wrong. Andrew Bennett is super pissed.
I have the Eros album but I've been contacted by the band management about the Eros album. They asked that the eros album was never approved by concerned parties, nor was it entirely completed. T
I was forced to delete the original Eros album
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No It's a joke
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 28, 2012, 10:58 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Aug 28, 2012, 07:02 AM
I believe Entertain Me is NOT leaked, but released by its owner over the internet..
Wrong. Andrew Bennett is super pissed.
so we have a Deftones fan that could hack Andrew's computer?
Quote from: pony_01 on Aug 28, 2012, 12:00 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 28, 2012, 10:58 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Aug 28, 2012, 07:02 AM
I believe Entertain Me is NOT leaked, but released by its owner over the internet..
Wrong. Andrew Bennett is super pissed.
so we have a Deftones fan that could hack Andrew's computer?
No. That's not how the real world works.
Someone had a friend who had a copy. They copied it to their computer and uploaded it.
At least we know EROS is coming out at some point.
Well....
At least we know it still has a fighting chance of coming out. Nothing is ever guaranteed.
so don't doubt it again. shit gets old ;)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 20, 2012, 10:57 PM
At least we know it still has a fighting chance of coming out. Nothing is ever guaranteed.
That's right. This is a hell full of good intentions
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Sep 21, 2012, 02:09 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 20, 2012, 10:57 PM
At least we know it still has a fighting chance of coming out. Nothing is ever guaranteed.
That's right. This is a hell full of good intentions
So true man.I don't think a album has been so anticapated by fans for any band,ever.most bands fans wouldev forgot about it by now.if anything we just get more exiceted as time moves along.we wont ever let this go,till a physical copy is in our hands.
Quote from: scatterbrain on Sep 21, 2012, 02:22 AM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Sep 21, 2012, 02:09 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 20, 2012, 10:57 PM
At least we know it still has a fighting chance of coming out. Nothing is ever guaranteed.
That's right. This is a hell full of good intentions
So true man.I don't think a album has been so anticapated by fans for any band,ever.most bands fans wouldev forgot about it by now.if anything we just get more exiceted as time moves along.we wont ever let this go,till a physical copy is in our hands.
exactly.
It's not that anticipated by me. It is, but I am much more interested in hearing new stuff.
8)
Am I the only person that is curious if Eros will be re-recorded if Chi doesn't come out Of a coma?
Not being morbid, I swear. I just don't like the thought of sergio perforReming that last album.
I like Sergio, but that was the last piece Chi contributed to.
(http://i.qkme.me/35cnh4.jpg)
Hardly doubt they'll rerecord it, they haven't even touched Melanie live, they just stepped away from it and shelved it for better times, they didn't say they're going to do anything to it as it is essentially done, they know how to pay respect, It'd be the same as if Dave Grohl rerecorded the Cobain Voices just because he isn't able to contribute anymore don't go in that direction thinking just because Vega is a substitute he embarresses meaningful stuff. For sure he knows how to handle the situation. Sometimes I just think they can't make satisfying decisions regarding eros other than Chi getting out again and beeing himself like ever.
whch is not going to happen the band has another one or two albums left in them and by that time chi wont have made a full recovery, yes "miracles" happen but lets be realisitic, we prolly wont see eros until they disband or maybe not ever, that being said a s a big eros fan im gunna keep whining about it.
It will leak. Eventually.
Quote from: Electron§ on Sep 23, 2012, 08:10 AM
It will leak. Eventually.
Probably. Entertain Me did and we thought we'd never get to see that.
Not sure if posted already, but what a mis-leading title. Fucking assholes. http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3194599/deftones-might-release-eros-the-last-album-with-chi-cheng/ (http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3194599/deftones-might-release-eros-the-last-album-with-chi-cheng/)
Only another 6 years to go until it leaks.
Terry Date is Deftones.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Sep 21, 2012, 03:46 AM
It's not that anticipated by me. It is, but I am much more interested in hearing new stuff.
I agree. I just don't get this obsession with Eros. yes, it would be very interesting to hear it. but for one, it wasn't finished and judging from the SNW demos, unfinished Deftones material isn't all that exciting. second, we haven't even heard anything, not as much as a demo, and yet everyone is certain that it was the most amazing music they ever did? what if it sucks? you will be so god damn disappointed then. even if it's mediocre, hearing it will be like a huge slap in the face for all of you hyping it up. and what about Chi? would it really be fine to release the album everyone considers his last (so far), and risk letting everyone down?
if it leaks or is released, that's great. but until then, just enjoy the music they're actually making now. not only for your own mental health, but also out of respect for the band.
Quote from: Jacob on Sep 29, 2012, 06:37 PM
I just don't get this obsession with Eros. yes, it would be very interesting to hear it. but for one, it wasn't finished and judging from the SNW demos, unfinished Deftones material isn't all that exciting.
Well, that's your opinion. I love these demos and they're definitely exciting to me. Just accept that some people love that kind of material and you'll understand the obsession.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 29, 2012, 07:09 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Sep 29, 2012, 06:37 PM
I just don't get this obsession with Eros. yes, it would be very interesting to hear it. but for one, it wasn't finished and judging from the SNW demos, unfinished Deftones material isn't all that exciting.
Well, that's your opinion. I love these demos and they're definitely exciting to me. Just accept that some people love that kind of material and you'll understand the obsession.
Agreed.
And I wouldn't exactly call Eros unfinished, all it needed was half of Chinos vocal tracks. Other than that it was finished....
Quote from: Electron§ on Sep 30, 2012, 08:41 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 29, 2012, 07:09 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Sep 29, 2012, 06:37 PM
I just don't get this obsession with Eros. yes, it would be very interesting to hear it. but for one, it wasn't finished and judging from the SNW demos, unfinished Deftones material isn't all that exciting.
Well, that's your opinion. I love these demos and they're definitely exciting to me. Just accept that some people love that kind of material and you'll understand the obsession.
Agreed.
And I wouldn't exactly for Eros unfinished, all it needed was half of Chinos vocal tracks. Other than that it was finished....
Definitely agree with this that had all the tracks refined and just needed to lay them down they wouldn't have played melanie live if they only had demos they usually wait till the album pretty much done before playing songs live.
Then again though they did play "Finger of Death" pretty damn early, but I think that was due to the fact that they *thought* they had a whole album, (given that Chinos earliest statement about Saturday Night Wrist was "straight up evil" when clearly the only thing from that era that matches that description is "Buffalo/Finger of Death") but then maybe trashed all that really dark stuff besides FOD for the Ezrin demos.
Thats not the point though, it was confirmed several times, Eros is a pretty much done album, and thats all that matters.
Yeah i think thats what happened they said they practically threw half the stuff away when they changed
which was sad
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 29, 2012, 07:09 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Sep 29, 2012, 06:37 PM
I just don't get this obsession with Eros. yes, it would be very interesting to hear it. but for one, it wasn't finished and judging from the SNW demos, unfinished Deftones material isn't all that exciting.
Well, that's your opinion. I love these demos and they're definitely exciting to me. Just accept that some people love that kind of material and you'll understand the obsession.
Me too. I like how creative yet different those demos are. I expect Eros was more along those lines.
yea way back when eros got cut, people got pissed at me cuz i wanted hear that shit. nice to know that other people wnat to hear it too. and all you fucks who say otherwise cant eat shit, cuz when an older song from 92 pops out you all are the ones to want it and talk about how awesome it is. Whocares what they put out when they put out, you are a deftones fan for a reason; they diverse have thier own sound you a just an idiot for thinking other wise.
@SNW
Stef :All you need to do is just sing over the music !
Chino : I dont like this song. I dont feel it.
Stef : Stop being an asshole and do your job, the song will be great.
Chino : It is not, goddamnit !..
@Serj Tankain
Stef: What do u think about this song?
Serj: This is a great demo. ''..nanaaa..nanana...nanana..stay away from you..universeee...nanana''
Stef: Omg, you did it in 1 day. See, Chino?
Chino: -_-' ok,whatever...
@Eros
Deftones: Working with Terry Date again, it is awesome. He is like our 6th member.
@DE
Deftones: Working with Nick is way better than Terry. Because we dont wanna do that dark songs and smoke or drink so much.
@KNY
Deftones: Terry was avialable but we pick up Nick again. Because working with Terry is no good for us. We can do heavy,dark songs without him. We didnt like his helps at Eros so Nick is the one for us.
@Deftonesfans
"Dumb as shit."
Besides, demos happen before the creativity police get involved!
Eros is a mystery and that's it's charm for me.
Quote from: nineteen on Oct 02, 2012, 10:44 PM
Eros is a mystery and that's it's charm for me.
and that is exactly my point. it's a typical case of you wanting what you can't have. if it's leaked or released, the novelty will probably wear off really fast.
Quote from: Jacob on Oct 03, 2012, 11:26 AM
Quote from: nineteen on Oct 02, 2012, 10:44 PM
Eros is a mystery and that's it's charm for me.
and that is exactly my point. it's a typical case of you wanting what you can't have. if it's leaked or released, the novelty will probably wear off really fast.
or, you know, maybe it's the best thing they've ever made
and the mystery goes on !..
Okay so I am late to the party so to speak regarding this thread, but is this album ever going to see the light of day in your guys' opinions?
Sometime.
Yes if,
1) Chi makes a fascinating recovery and is back on the stage in less than a year (Least likely though I'm hoping)
2) The 'Tones disband and put out a massive discography relase in which EROS is included (Somewhat likely if they disband)
3) Due to the outcry of fans they decide to relase EROS as a thank you to all the hardcore fans, possibly ina deluxe vinyl release (Least Likely)
4) Someone within the industry, record company, band circle finds/steals/leasks the album (Most likly to happen IMHO, just look at Entertain Me)
they said Chino only finished a little more than half the vocals, so he would have to finish the vocals. i wonder if he already has the lyrics writen down, or on rough demos, or if he'd have to make up new melodies & lyrics to the unfinished songs
hmm well we can only hope :)
I think it will be released in some form, at some time. Probably not as an official album, but maybe 5 songs or so will be officially released. Whatever Chino didn't finish, I strongly doubt he will go back and finish up. Like they always say, they would rather write new shit than work on an album that's years old and that reflects a certain time in their life. They've moved on. Which holds true to my own work. I have a tough time finishing shit, and it is very hard to go back and work on a song that's 5 years old than just write all new shit all together...
Yea thats understandable i guess.
The album were finished include lyrics.
They were remastering it on the studio.
So all the songs are complete INNNNNN MYYYYYYY OPINIOOOOOONNNN !!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 10, 2012, 11:49 PM
The album were finished include lyrics.
They were remastering it on the studio.
So all the songs are complete INNNNNN MYYYYYYY OPINIOOOOOONNNN !!!!!!!!!!
It's not an opinion when it's 100% wrong. They've said many times that chino never finished the vocals.
ok show me a documented up to date source. that counter acts the one where chino said they may hold in the attic for future release.
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
just found this
Quote from: Playhouse on Oct 11, 2012, 05:28 AM
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
just found this
That's the SNW session demo + the live song put together.. sounds pretty horrible haha
Quote from: UrZ* on Oct 11, 2012, 05:34 AM
Quote from: Playhouse on Oct 11, 2012, 05:28 AM
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
just found this
That's the SNW session demo + the live song put together.. sounds pretty horrible haha
ohhh right
Quote from: iceache on Oct 10, 2012, 11:51 PM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 10, 2012, 11:49 PM
The album were finished include lyrics.
They were remastering it on the studio.
So all the songs are complete INNNNNN MYYYYYYY OPINIOOOOOONNNN !!!!!!!!!!
It's not an opinion when it's 100% wrong. They've said many times that chino never finished the vocals.
You think Chino starts to write lyrics while they are middile of remastering on the studio?
Quote from: UrZ* on Oct 11, 2012, 05:34 AM
Quote from: Playhouse on Oct 11, 2012, 05:28 AM
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
just found this
That's the SNW session demo + the live song put together.. sounds pretty horrible haha
if you dont like it get off the thread newbie.
Quote from: UrZ* on Oct 11, 2012, 05:34 AM
Quote from: Playhouse on Oct 11, 2012, 05:28 AM
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
just found this
That's the SNW session demo + the live song put together.. sounds pretty horrible haha
dude what the fuck, that shit is fucking beautiful.
I don't know man, it makes my ears all weird.
It sounds fucked up like every thing has a echo,why did they even bother doing that?
Maybe it because its two tracks mixed together
finger of death was played live in 2004, two years before SNW was released, but was removed from the final cut. talking about this home-made version of f.o.d, as an eros song, is like talking about a home-made gods hand demo version mixed with a live version as it would be an around the fur era song. it's way off
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Oct 11, 2012, 11:39 AM
Maybe it because its two tracks mixed together
Yeah i know that but the timing's fucked up so it just sounds like a mess.
the bpms are diff
Strangely quite like the sound of it, if not a little weird.
live version is perfect as it is
What song do you like guys like better, Melanie or Finger of Death? I choose Melanie, imagine how sweet that part sounds after the second chorus.
Finger of Death. Anytime.
Sort of tempted to go with melanie but i have to choose Finger of Death so much more twisted and dark love that shit minus that stupid clapping.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 12, 2012, 11:20 AM
Sort of tempted to go with melanie but i have to choose Finger of Death so much more twisted and dark love that shit minus that stupid clapping.
Really I thought the clapping was kind of cool. Actually both songs are pretty dark, hopefully one day studio versions will be released
Quote from: ZackND on Oct 12, 2012, 11:32 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 12, 2012, 11:20 AM
Sort of tempted to go with melanie but i have to choose Finger of Death so much more twisted and dark love that shit minus that stupid clapping.
Really I thought the clapping was kind of cool. Actually both songs are pretty dark, hopefully one day studio versions will be released
I think it would be better without it also it's done real awkwardly like it's not smooth there will just randomly be 2 claps by their own.
How about the clapping in the beginning of poltergeist , doubt that will be on the album but who knows
Quote from: ZackND on Oct 12, 2012, 11:47 AM
How about the clapping in the beginning of poltergeist , doubt that will be on the album but who knows
It will be.
Quote from: ZackND on Oct 12, 2012, 11:47 AM
How about the clapping in the beginning of poltergeist , doubt that will be on the album but who knows
why would you doubt that?
It's part of the song.
i don't know
Is Poltergeist on Eros? ::) Ahhhhhhhhhhhh....EROS
what the hell is wrong with you who said polter was on eros or that any of the KONY tacks were on eros.
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Oct 14, 2012, 10:50 AM
what the hell is wrong with you who said polter was on eros or that any of the KONY tacks were on eros.
Probably hinting that threads going off topic,or just stupid
i guess.. ::)
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Oct 14, 2012, 10:50 AM
what the hell is wrong with you who said polter was on eros or that any of the KONY tacks were on eros.
what do you mean? no one said poltergeist was on eros
eh who cares the point is moot now.
it looks like you were talkin to yourself lol, it makes sense if you read it like that
well I am crazy so mebbe.
haha ok sorry. i'm confused. i might try to fraudulently join the "make a wish foundation" and see if they'll let me hear EROS
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 14, 2012, 10:57 AM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Oct 14, 2012, 10:50 AM
what the hell is wrong with you who said polter was on eros or that any of the KONY tacks were on eros.
Probably hinting that threads going off topic,or just stupid
lol really? chill out kids
ok mama
;D
whats your deal? seriously? i was kidding fool. And other guy, stupid? cmon dood, gotta b a dickhead abt it ?
i honestlyhave no i dee uh whats going on but uhm.. EROS FOR PRESIDENT!
Yes!!! Eros for president!!!! Koi No Yokan for now...
Deftones Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9xB2wVuFk#)
Man. . listened to this and then Finger of Death and it sounded dope.
Deftones - Finger of Death - Studio Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUFEEmYDZRQ#)
finger of death is a snw demo, why people keep on posting this in the eros thread i don't know
Yeah, I just found that out (or well remembered it rather) still sounds cool together though.
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 16, 2012, 12:25 PM
finger of death is a snw demo, why people keep on posting this in the eros thread i don't know
Because it remastered at Eros
eros clip 3 ain't buffalo
Well f you read the whole thread, It was stated by someone that they would liked if Buffalo/Finger of Death was on EROS, not that it was for a fact.
Then it was proclaimed that B/FoD had played as early as '04, so technicly it could be a Lovers B-Side.
However the Studio Intrumental in the Ezrin Demos is now the song we all know and love, that will not ever see the light of day until the 'tones realize that use fans give up our inheritances, children and dignity for any new music.
I thought it started because someone asked out of the unreleased tracks which we would rather hear Melanie from eros or Buffalo/Finger of death from SNW era.
And that is a really tough one to answer for me, wow! :-X
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Oct 17, 2012, 05:52 AM
And that is a really tough one to answer for me, wow! :-X
Haha yeah i had to think about for a while as well but i had to go for buffalo love the darkness it has, it's more different to what we've already heard.
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Oct 16, 2012, 03:08 PM
However the Studio Intrumental in the Ezrin Demos is now the song we all know and love, that will not ever see the light of day until the 'tones realize that use fans give up our inheritances, children and dignity for any new music.
Oh dude, No! The live version is the one that we all know and love! Or should anyway! IN MY OPINION, IMO! NOT A FACT, JUST IMO. The Ezrin track to me was just a plus, but the live version is the one that I love. It just sounds darker, and sounds awesome with Chino singing over it, gives you a whole new perspective on the song. Even though I can't understand a word he's saying, and he probably hadn't even written any lyrics for it yet, could have been on-the-spot even...
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Oct 17, 2012, 07:20 AM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Oct 16, 2012, 03:08 PM
However the Studio Intrumental in the Ezrin Demos is now the song we all know and love, that will not ever see the light of day until the 'tones realize that use fans give up our inheritances, children and dignity for any new music.
Oh dude, No! The live version is the one that we all know and love! Or should anyway! IN MY OPINION, IMO! NOT A FACT, JUST IMO. The Ezrin track to me was just a plus, but the live version is the one that I love. It just sounds darker, and sounds awesome with Chino singing over it, gives you a whole new perspective on the song. Even though I can't understand a word he's saying, and he probably hadn't even written any lyrics for it yet, could have been on-the-spot even...
with you on the on that love that version Chinos singing is so all over the place I just imagine him stumbling all over the stage just singing anything its just pure emotional mumblings,and the instrumentals add to it their kind weird ,off time,dark and twisted .
You guys should start a 'SNW demo are the shit' thread, cuz its irrelevant to talk about fod on eros thread
Quote from: pony_01 on Oct 17, 2012, 09:06 AM
You guys should start a 'SNW demo are the shit' thread, cuz its irrelevant to talk about fod on eros thread
it's onn topic someone asked which you'd want to hear melanie or fod so people were just answering
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 17, 2012, 09:21 AM
it's onn topic someone asked which you'd want to hear melanie or fod so people were just answering
My bad then, i'm here because im looking an update for eros.
Quote from: pony_01 on Oct 17, 2012, 09:56 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 17, 2012, 09:21 AM
it's onn topic someone asked which you'd want to hear melanie or fod so people were just answering
My bad then, i'm here because im looking an update for eros.
Haha aren't we all
Quote from: pony_01 on Oct 17, 2012, 09:06 AM
You guys should start a 'SNW demo are the shit' thread, cuz its irrelevant to talk about fod on eros thread
Then come back to this thread 5 years later cuz you are not gonna see any update..
So, stop being a ''stay on topic'' guy and shut the shit up
damn i love the new rock.
i say 3 years tho.
Sorry buddy, im on my period :p
Yeah 3 years sound about right
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 17, 2012, 10:26 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Oct 17, 2012, 09:06 AM
You guys should start a 'SNW demo are the shit' thread, cuz its irrelevant to talk about fod on eros thread
Then come back to this thread 5 years later cuz you are not gonna see any update..
So, stop being a ''stay on topic'' guy and shut the shit up
Also, they took this guy's jib.
"stay on topic guy" lol thats why there's a thing called a 'thread'. If u wanna go off topic all the time then merge all the fucking thread.
MERGE ALL THE THREADS!
dude..fuck rules!
this is basicly chat with deftones fans.
it so pathetic seeing posts about ''you cant write this, dont talk this, dont do this, dont post this'' in every fuckin thread..
yeah merge them all!
Every fucking thread? The only thread in which I did set exceptional rules was the Koi No Yokan thread, and LEGITIMATELY. Don't exaggerate and make it look excessive at all points, please.
Dude your excessive moderation will be moderated by those who moderate the moderators. haha
People bitch on here way to much im starting to think all of you have vagina's big hairy yeast infected vagina's.
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 18, 2012, 11:09 AM
Every fucking thread? The only thread in which I did set exceptional rules was the Koi No Yokan thread, and LEGITIMATELY. Don't exaggerate and make it look excessive at all points, please.
Yea and that Koi No Yokan thread wasn't even discussion just trolls everywhere,this threads less active and were having legit discussions.Speaking of Eros i wonder how much frank actually appears on Melanie you can't really hear him that much apart from a few little bits in the live recording would be interesting to hear the difference in studio version he can really take songs to the next level with his input.
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 18, 2012, 11:09 AM
Every fucking thread? The only thread in which I did set exceptional rules was the Koi No Yokan thread
Yeah you are saying that but your dick riderz (a.k.a. DeftonesNz or bewareofshit) telling us to not go off-topic in every thread. Include this. Just read 5 post above this.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 18, 2012, 11:28 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 18, 2012, 11:09 AM
Every fucking thread? The only thread in which I did set exceptional rules was the Koi No Yokan thread
Yeah you are saying that but your dick riderz (a.k.a. DeftonesNz or bewareofshit) telling us to not go off-topic in every thread. Include this. Just read 5 post above this.
I have not once told people to stay on topic,i said maybe another members post was implying it was off track and thats it.
Fuck the police. Lets go off topics
sorry then DeftoneNZ, he must be someone else
edit: but i know you've been an asshole..just cant remember
whats life in not but a giant troll fest :)
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Oct 18, 2012, 12:44 PM
whats life in not but a giant troll fest :)
true story. e.c. Al-Qaeda
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Oct 18, 2012, 12:44 PM
whats life in not but a giant troll fest :)
is this proper English or can i also say ''What if life was nothing but a troll fest'' ?
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 17, 2012, 10:01 PM
dude..fuck rules!
this is basicly chat with deftones fans.
it so pathetic seeing posts about ''you cant write this, dont talk this, dont do this, dont post this'' in every fuckin thread..
yeah merge them all!
Like i said, to restart a thread w the same name and think that's gonna change things here? this place is full of twats w a.d.d. and a.d.h.d (no offense) and starting a thread over or puffing chests out aint gonna scare anyone except those dick riders, lol u r right abt them "T.P.I.D."
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 18, 2012, 06:18 PM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Oct 18, 2012, 12:44 PM
whats life in not but a giant troll fest :)
is this proper English or can i also say ''What if life was nothing but a troll fest'' ?
arrgh i dont proof read -a bad habit i know i meant, "whats life IF not but a giant troll fest." mybad yall
Remember that "Eros In studio clip 5" where Stef is talking about poker? and then Abe says "That's a song" and Stef replies "Yeah! i know that song" and then Abe says "Alright lets check it"...
I tried to hear the "song" Abe is talking about by manipulating the audio of that video and there is a "song" but you can only hear some guitar chords almost at the end of the clip (when Abe leaves) and i know its stef's guitar because he has a very particular guitar tone so i guess they where mixing a song at that moment.
I can upload a short MP3 if you want to hear it but its only 5 or 6 seconds of clear guitar sounds the rest if very noisy.
The song he's talking about is "the gambler" by kenny rogers, in the song it says "know when to hold em, know when to fold em" because Stef is talking about poker
Quote from: kurtone on Oct 23, 2012, 07:35 AM
The song he's talking about is "the gambler" by kenny rogers, in the song it says "know when to hold em, know when to fold em" because Stef is talking about poker
Yeah i remember that ,pretty sure someone asked same question in comments section of youtube clip lol
Im pretty sure it is not Kenny Rogers, its a heavily distorted guitar that plays a riff trough out the whole "interview" but you can only hear it clearly at the end of the clip.
Here is the mp3 in case you want to check it out
http://www.mediafire.com/?8ivr1r5x9wah72a (http://www.mediafire.com/?8ivr1r5x9wah72a)
I'm saying that's the song Abe is referring to since Stephen is talking about playing online poker.
Quote from: kurtone on Oct 23, 2012, 06:07 PM
I'm saying that's the song Abe is referring to since Stephen is talking about playing online poker.
Oh!... he is quoting the lyrics, i get it now... anyways that's another small piece of Eros right there.
Maybe some of you will find this downloads Interesting (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,13769.msg785527.html#msg785527)
Does anyone have any idea what the album cover would've been?
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p486/deathiscertain29/DEFTONES-EROS-1.jpg)
HA!
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/chandler345/ScreenShot2012-10-31at103212PM.png)
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/chandler345/ScreenShot2012-10-31at102945PM.png)
http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD/5725849 (http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD/5725849)
That looks pretty cool was it for a project or something?
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 31, 2012, 11:43 AM
That looks pretty cool was it for a project or something?
Yeah i think maybe its someones art piece. Just came up on google then, thought it was pretty sweet.
Are those the real track titles?
Quote from: xToxin on Oct 31, 2012, 11:58 AM
Are those the real track titles?
Don't know if they all are but i recognise of few of Ero's working titles (they were all stripper names)
I don't know... But I dig the sketches...
some names.......wish we cld see those lyrics though i'm 99.9% sure it's a blurr of nothing for the concept. pretty cool, but outta boredom? :-\ Had to b a project, it is pretty great!!! Had me excited about hearing it actually... very cool 8)
So I'm going to state the obvious and guess that 'Trempest' and 'Tempest' are the same song? It's probably been touched on elsewhere in this thread but I'm not going to go digging for it...
Quote from: Black on Nov 01, 2012, 10:30 PM
So I'm going to state the obvious and guess that 'Trempest' and 'Tempest' are the same song? It's probably been touched on elsewhere in this thread but I'm not going to go digging for it...
I've been curious about that since I saw Koi No Yokan's tracklist.
Quote from: Black on Nov 01, 2012, 10:30 PM
So I'm going to state the obvious and guess that 'Trempest' and 'Tempest' are the same song? It's probably been touched on elsewhere in this thread but I'm not going to go digging for it...
Doubt it there's nothing to suggest they used anything from Eros and the names not even the same
Quote from: Playhouse on Oct 31, 2012, 11:32 AM
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/chandler345/ScreenShot2012-10-31at103212PM.png)
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/chandler345/ScreenShot2012-10-31at102945PM.png)
http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD/5725849 (http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD/5725849)
that looks sick. wish it were the real deal
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 01, 2012, 11:05 PM
Quote from: Black on Nov 01, 2012, 10:30 PM
So I'm going to state the obvious and guess that 'Trempest' and 'Tempest' are the same song? It's probably been touched on elsewhere in this thread but I'm not going to go digging for it...
Doubt it there's nothing to suggest they used anything from Eros and the names not even the same
I doubt it too but the names are obviously very similar. Kinda weird they would name a song 'Trempest' on Eros and then name a song 'Tempest' on Koi No Yokan. Even though Eros is pretty much finished, the song titles we knew about could change before it's actually ever released.
I thought so too but recycling Eros material would kind of be like shooting themselves in the foot. I don't think they had all these songs since Eros and were so desperate for just one more that they use an old one and slightly change the name. It doesn't really make any sense if you think about it. Also I thought this had been touched on by the band? Maybe not. Someone should still ask them though.
It's not a damn Eros song. Just because the working title of ONE Eros song has similar spelling to a final title for kny does not make them the same song.
You guys jump to conclusions way too quick
Quote from: iceache on Nov 01, 2012, 11:31 PM
It's not a damn Eros song. Just because the working title of ONE Eros song has similar spelling to a final title for kny does not make them the same song.
You guys jump to conclusions way too quick
No way to really know. Unless the band specifically stated that it's not the same song.
Quote from: The Chauffer on Nov 01, 2012, 11:39 PM
Quote from: iceache on Nov 01, 2012, 11:31 PM
It's not a damn Eros song. Just because the working title of ONE Eros song has similar spelling to a final title for kny does not make them the same song.
You guys jump to conclusions way too quick
No way to really know. Unless the band specifically stated that it's not the same song.
Haha Yeah i don't think that is the case i have thought to myself because of how little we heard of Eros they could have just used it on DE and KNY lol but I don't believe they have.
I don't know if that was meant to be the actual artwork, but it's sick as fuck.
The sketch of the photo of the band looks like one of the DE era photos.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 02, 2012, 09:44 AM
The sketch of the photo of the band looks like one of the DE eras photos.
It is a sketch of that photo ,the actual photo's at the bottom he just replaced the deer with the bird shape
Quote from: The Chauffer on Nov 01, 2012, 11:39 PM
Quote from: iceache on Nov 01, 2012, 11:31 PM
It's not a damn Eros song. Just because the working title of ONE Eros song has similar spelling to a final title for kny does not make them the same song.
You guys jump to conclusions way too quick
No way to really know. Unless the band specifically stated that it's not the same song.
No way to really know. Unless the band specifically stated that it's the same song.
again... "you've seen the butcher" was an electronic eros demo, but the title ended up on the diamond eyes album. not the song, but the title. i think they just used an old title like that again this time
they had the electro version of the end of beware in the WP days as well
Its not the same song, deftones have confirmed it more than once. All the the material with Vega is new material not stuff from Eros. They would not have Vega playing ideas from Eros, they confirmed that as well.
Quote from: lungdamage on Nov 02, 2012, 01:45 PM
they had the electro version of the end of beware in the WP days as well
for real ? i need to hear that one
Quote from: Pndi on Nov 03, 2012, 10:01 PM
Quote from: lungdamage on Nov 02, 2012, 01:45 PM
they had the electro version of the end of beware in the WP days as well
for real ? i need to hear that one
its on Entertain Me DVD, they played that electronic beat as an opener for their backtoschool tour
Quote from: pony_01 on Nov 04, 2012, 09:08 AM
Quote from: Pndi on Nov 03, 2012, 10:01 PM
Quote from: lungdamage on Nov 02, 2012, 01:45 PM
they had the electro version of the end of beware in the WP days as well
for real ? i need to hear that one
its on Entertain Me DVD, they played that electronic beat as an opener for their backtoschool tour
Please share somehow?
Here
Deftones - Korea live @ Verdun Auditorium, November 14th 2000 [1/18] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mwEd8CcIqE#ws)
Not Entertain Me but you hear it.
Ah, thanks Ves.
Though Im a little disappointed. I thought it was an electronic version of the outro riff in "Beware".... :(
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 04, 2012, 10:01 AM
Ah, thanks Ves.
Though Im a little disappointed. I thought it was an electronic version of the outro riff in "Beware".... :(
it is
Not the outro riff. The outro noise, the very end of the song.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 04, 2012, 10:41 AM
Not the outro riff. The outro noise, the very end of the song.
Bingo.
Quote from: Electron§ on Nov 04, 2012, 10:47 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 04, 2012, 10:41 AM
Not the outro riff. The outro noise, the very end of the song.
Bingo.
o_O - so they have erased all our minds...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_I2uQkGxIykM/SwU3ADolS8I/AAAAAAAAHyM/7_toVW3Npzo/s1600/hypno+amy.jpg)
well played..
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 04, 2012, 09:56 AM
Here
Deftones - Korea live @ Verdun Auditorium, November 14th 2000 [1/18] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mwEd8CcIqE#ws)
Not Entertain Me but you hear it.
OH SHIT, that's the first show i have ever seen! thanks!
Quote from: iceache on Nov 01, 2012, 11:31 PM
It's not a damn Eros song. Just because the working title of ONE Eros song has similar spelling to a final title for kny does not make them the same song.
You guys jump to conclusions way too quick
I was half-serious, for starters. And the only difference between song titles in this case is ONE letter. What conclusion do you think people are going to jump to? Go ask the band for us since you seem so sure and then report back here.
I am pretty sure I seen in interview, maybe I read it, but Chino said out if reaped for Chi they didn't teach Sergio any of the material that was/is on Eros.
Deftones need Terry Date.
What about now? Do they still need him now?
More than ever, I think.
Chino would still croon, whatever the producer.
I like the production on there alot.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 08, 2012, 05:25 AM
More than ever, I think.
He is the lost member, besides chi. :(
Quote from: gui on Nov 08, 2012, 05:27 AM
Chino would still croon, whatever the producer.
I'm not sure Terry would have been happy with his DE/KNY style of vocals.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 08, 2012, 05:46 AM
Quote from: gui on Nov 08, 2012, 05:27 AM
Chino would still croon, whatever the producer.
I'm not sure Terry would have been happy with his DE/KNY style of vocals.
Exactly, obviously Terry didn't have much of a problem with Chino crooning, since he did do it back in the old days. Its just it had a much different more genuine feel and it sounded a lot more like it was in the room with you, rather than all big and bold like it does on all the albums since Diamond Eyes.
Two more hours.
The new official SL joke, eh? Let's make a combo, then.
Two more hours. (http://lemonparty.org/)
BOO-YAH!
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 08, 2012, 08:25 PM
The new official SL joke, eh? Let's make a combo, then.
Two more hours. (http://lemonparty.org/)
BOO-YAH!
Damn man, I wish you would have put a NSFW label on that.
I wish the person who did the joke to me would have too.
You guys and that lemonparty shit.......
two more hours
Ha ha ! Gotta love that shit... :)
I'm starting to think this is all a cover up, the band and Chino are saying 'we don't want to release it till Chi comes back' but I think they pretty much know it's not going to happen. He more than likely won't recover enough to play bass with them again. The label doesn't like Eros and the band knows that, I've heard bands get in binds with the label, the label owns the music, not even Deftones own it even though they made it. So the label isn't going to ever release this. If Deftones don't have rights to release it then it's all one big cover up.
So i doubt' we will ever hear this album.
I doubt that the studio would never have let them get that close to a finished album if they didn't approve of it since SNW the record company have been wanting to hear what the guys are doing so its not like they didn't hear it.And they say best case scenario they would want Chi to be able to see it but they're not going to hold out for that Stephen said in an interview he wanted to release with Diamond Eyes i think it's just what they say it is and they didn't want to put out an album that didn't capture that time and can you imagine having to tour those songs without Chi that would be heartbreaking for the guys,releasing Eros now would be a mistake they've built alot of momentum with Sergio and the new stuff i think Eros will be a parting gift to the fans
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 10, 2012, 12:18 AM
I doubt that the studio would never have let them get that close to a finished album if they didn't approve of it since SNW the record company have been wanting to hear what the guys are doing so its not like they didn't hear it.And they say best case scenario they would want Chi to be able to see it but they're not going to hold out for that Stephen said in an interview he wanted to release with Diamond Eyes i think it's just what they say it is and they didn't want to put out an album that didn't capture that time and can you imagine having to tour those songs without Chi that would be heartbreaking for the guys,releasing Eros now would be a mistake they've built alot of momentum with Sergio and the new stuff i think Eros will be a parting gift to the fans
I think it would have been awesome if they released it along with Diamond Eyes. Two albums at once? Thats a rarity for a band that takes three years per album. But of course, Deftones being Deftones, they hold back on us with the cool shit....
I wanna see someone try to cover some of the snippets we heard from this album so we can get a different perspective on it
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??
Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?
Quote from: SIGH on Nov 16, 2012, 05:10 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??
Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?
No.
Deftines eros in studio 2008 Clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vtD81rcMI#)
Everytime I see this I see it soooooooo far away :(
Quote from: SIGH on Nov 16, 2012, 05:10 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??
Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?
Question #1: Not at all.
Question #2: Not at all. It may be the album to come out soonest from their last (though Adrenaline to ATF was 2 years also), but I'm pretty sure as far as time and energy spent it was much more than previous stuff. Most of their early days they didn't spend as much time writing and recording as they do now, but a lot more bullshitting.
Quote from: SIGH on Nov 16, 2012, 05:10 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??
Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?
Yes...
Eros have song with working title Trempest.
New album have song Tempest.
What do you think about that? :)
They're not the same songs,the names aren't even the same...
Did you hear Trempest?
The names are the same for about 99.7%
Quote from: Flamberg on Nov 26, 2012, 02:42 AM
Did you hear Trempest?
The names are the same about 99.7%
No but why would you assume they're the same song because the names are similar it's completely unfounded it doesn't even sound the Eros era stuff
Quote from: Flamberg on Nov 26, 2012, 02:42 AM
Did you hear Trempest?
The names are the same for about 99.7%
its just song titles, doesnt mean shit with their early or new material.
"you've seen the butcher" once used as a title track for a demo they put on myspace, and they used that title again on DE.
Quote from: Flamberg on Nov 26, 2012, 02:42 AM
Did you hear Trempest?
The names are the same for about 99.7%
He may have just liked that titled, and decided to drop the "R" and use that song title on KNY.
OR some of those song titles for Eros may not even be totally legit.. who knows.
But NO I highly doubt they would use some Eros material given that they do plan to release Eros in the near future..
How close were we actually to seeing a release of Eros anyways, those could've all been working titles and not really mean a damn thing.
Very close they had estimated release dates and all the instrumentals were done Chino just had to finish vocals on some of the songs,So i think the songs were all chosen and written and they were about to finish recording when Chi's accident happened
Since all the Eros working titles were supposed to be stripper names, that means...man, I'd think anyone would take Tempest over Trempest for a stage name. She had to have thought of it, right?
At the end of the day, none of us know.
Quote from: Dath on Nov 28, 2012, 10:45 PM
Since all the Eros working titles were supposed to be stripper names, that means...man, I'd think anyone would take Tempest over Trempest for a stage name. She had to have thought of it, right?
I don't even get what your'e saying lol
I have my doubts that Eros was "nearly done". Deftones had a nasty habit around that time (and for years before) of taking FOREVER to get anything done in the studio. It took them like 2 years to get those Bob Ezrin Instrumentals done and even then they just sounded like Demos/ Loose song ideas. My guess is they were at similar stages, maybe a little bit closer, than those demos around the time Chi had his accident
But they also performed a song of the album they usually do that a couple of months before release,plus i don't see any reason why they would lie about how far they had got i have seen multiple interviews where they all said all the final instrumentals were done and %75 percent of vocals too ,plus they said they were really enjoying working together and it was going really smooth so it wasn't a complicated process like SNW
Quote from: godin on Nov 29, 2012, 12:11 AM
I have my doubts that Eros was "nearly done". Deftones had a nasty habit around that time (and for years before) of taking FOREVER to get anything done in the studio. It took them like 2 years to get those Bob Ezrin Instrumentals done and even then they just sounded like Demos/ Loose song ideas. My guess is they were at similar stages, maybe a little bit closer, than those demos around the time Chi had his accident
yeah I highly doubt it was close to being finished as well, and I have a feeling the material would be very SNW-esque (disjointed) the band was in a weird state around the time it was written, kinda just going through the motions... but hey maybe folks would like that, it seems like SNW is getting more love these days
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 28, 2012, 11:54 PM
Quote from: Dath on Nov 28, 2012, 10:45 PM
Since all the Eros working titles were supposed to be stripper names, that means...man, I'd think anyone would take Tempest over Trempest for a stage name. She had to have thought of it, right?
I don't even get what your'e saying lol
Well, as far as I know, all the Eros demos had stripper's names as working titles. If that's true, there is or was a stripper somewhere calling herself "Trempest".
I always thought it was bad times aswell but Chino said recently in that front magazine interview that Eros is when they started doing the whole working together deal they made Diamond Eyes and KNY so fast,Also about the stripper name thing i don't know if they were talking about real life strippers or just made up names that sounded like stripper names
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 29, 2012, 12:53 AM
I always thought it was bad times aswell but Chino said recently in that front magazine interview that Eros is when they started doing the whole working together deal they made Diamond Eyes and KNY so fast,Also about the stripper name thing i don't know if they were talking about real life strippers or just made up names that sounded like stripper names
Probably made up names.
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i've never seen that pic, awesome.
Quote from: pony_01 on Nov 29, 2012, 07:18 AM
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i dunno... looks like chino pee'd himself. still dig all the stuff regarding eros, doesn't matter if it's pictures of clips of music. guess i bought the hype/mystery about it. i wonder if we will hear it someday. still wonder IF they're gonna release it, what will they do about the tracks without finished vocals? 45 year old chino putting vocals on stuff he wrote when he was like 35.. the sound of his voice will sound different than the 2008 voice
@musings
Big Roy has also contiplated the dilemma pertaining to the vocals. Chef Royardee believes Eros will not be released in its entirety but only the tracks vocals have been completed for. Maybe a 7 track album or so. It's also possible Chino will record the vocals all over again. I hope not.
Interesting point about the vocals but I think if they release they'll do it properly
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Nov 17, 2012, 08:58 AM
Deftines eros in studio 2008 Clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vtD81rcMI#)
Everytime I see this I see it soooooooo far away :(
I didn't have internet around this time and missed out of all of the Eros clips and stuff, are there more videos like so?
yeah Eros Clips 1 to 5 atleast
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 29, 2012, 10:36 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Nov 29, 2012, 07:18 AM
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i dunno... looks like chino pee'd himself. still dig all the stuff regarding eros, doesn't matter if it's pictures of clips of music. guess i bought the hype/mystery about it. i wonder if we will hear it someday. still wonder IF they're gonna release it, what will they do about the tracks without finished vocals? 45 year old chino putting vocals on stuff he wrote when he was like 35.. the sound of his voice will sound different than the 2008 voice
i miss Chi
Why has this not leaked yet? Someone who's heard it, leak this shit. Stephen, Sergio, Shaun Lopez, do what needs to be done.
Or....... no... no....
Frank.
You leak it.
No one will suspect you. You'll be safe.
@Chef Royardee
I would easily prefer 7 original eros songs with the 2008 recorded vocals, that captures that time, how it was meant to sound - over 11 new versions by an older chino today - that is in a different mindset. if chino would re-record the songs with new vocals and then release them, it would take about an hour before the fans would say "ok cool, but i really wonder how the REAL Eros sounds" me included.
yeah. just leave the tracks without vocals the way they are. a few instrumentals and the 7 or so recorded tracks would be sweet.
I get you guys' point but I'd prefer Chino recording vocals over them, instead of just releasing the instrumentals, personally. And I think that's what will happen if/when it's time for Eros to come out.
Yeah i would definitely want vocals as well, hearing some of those team sleep demos it sucks that Chino's not on them i think it'd be the same for this
Quote from: only pieces remain on Dec 01, 2012, 09:54 PM
yeah. just leave the tracks without vocals the way they are. a few instrumentals and the 7 or so recorded tracks would be sweet.
thats the way it will be bc it will get leaked that way. Chino will never add vocals to this old material. No time or desire to i think. Eros is Eros the way it is. Thats it in its complete stage now. And I like it this way too man. I remember following it week by week w the clips n such and don't want it to change if we hear what they did!
Sort of depends if he has lyrics written for those songs I know the singing won't be the same but it's mainly the lyrics that would be hard to create especially now their not in that state of mind
pretty cool...
No way. Leak the shit as is. We want to taste the vibe that was then. Not that sound tainted by a 2012 Chino. If Team Sleep ever did more shit I don't want Chino going and putting down vocals on Formant or some shit. 2012 sounds for 2012 chino and vice versa. Leave the classic shit be.
what if chino's vocals are some really sinister badass shit on the 2008 recordings, but then this happy chino today change them and put commercial OoOooohUuuuaaah choruses on the whole thing. that would be so sad
Yeah that would be my worry that's why i would be ok if he just recorded vocals he had already written but i would be worried about him writing new stuff
I think if anything they should just release what's already been completed even if it is just 7 or 8 songs.
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Nov 30, 2012, 06:18 AM
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on Nov 17, 2012, 08:58 AM
Deftines eros in studio 2008 Clip 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6vtD81rcMI#)
Everytime I see this I see it soooooooo far away :(
I didn't have internet around this time and missed out of all of the Eros clips and stuff, are there more videos like so?
Just look at the first post of this thread. Vesanic sorted all the stuff of the Eros era. ;)
you guys are so full of shit. god.
Quote from: gui on Dec 03, 2012, 12:58 AM
you guys are so full of shit. god.
Are you joking? Or are you just being a badass? Big Roy wants to know
so funny how people grab on to eros to get a last bit of "the old days", even though nobody really knows if its gonna be good stuff. Things you could hear til today didnt impress me really. Except of the introgroove on those "in the studio" - snippets.
What things did you hear other than the intro snippet and Melanie?
There's small bit's of Abe of Stephen rehearsing and sometimes you can hear guitar in the background,The guitar tone is nicely crunchy to
Quote from: RoyBiggins on Dec 04, 2012, 10:12 AM
What things did you hear other than the intro snippet and Melanie?
exactly. theres that one introthing that sounds cool and thats like 10secs or something and the rest you can hear is average jamming/rehearsal room demo stuff and melanie doesnt sound cool to me at all. Thats why Im wondering why apparently so many people seem to be in desperate need of that "album". Theres no other reason than the hope for eros being amazing because chi was still playing and it was made in the older days.
Nah it's probably because of how dark it's mean't to be, apparently still the most dark and twisted stuff they've done to date and that usually means some good unorthodox music when Deftones are like that
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 04, 2012, 10:45 AM
Nah it's probably because of how dark it's mean't to be, apparently still the most dark and twisted stuff they've done to date and that usually means some good unorthodox music when Deftones are like that
ok, I get that.
I just want to hear the last record made by the Deftones I grew up with. My interest in the album lies almost entirely in Melanie and Chi still being around. I don't have any expectations about the music whether its dark or experimental or the "old" Deftones but just to hear the last album Chi played on.
I just want to hear it out of curiosity,I think some people have built it up in their heads to a point where the actual album can never live up I've even some people say it's better than KNY after not hearing a single studio track from Eros.
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Mar 23, 2010, 12:37 PM
Quote from: pissedandpierced on Oct 11, 2007, 08:54 PM
A friend of mine in Sacramento messaged me the following information regarding the new album, this is what he has heard about it:
"The new album will have longer songs, think 6 minutes or more, guitar solos, even more synth/keys/fx from Frank, lyrically will be more straightforward rather than cryptic, there will be more complex song structures, more guitar from chino, and faster drums (more double bass). Chi got a 6 string bass he's using on most songs and a fretless 5 string. Steph is using a new custom 8 string baritone guitar. Chino is using a lot of FX on his guitar parts so it doesn't even really sound like guitar that much.
Sounds like Koi No Yokan
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 04, 2012, 10:45 AM
Nah it's probably because of how dark it's mean't to be, apparently still the most dark and twisted stuff they've done to date and that usually means some good unorthodox music when Deftones are like that
I don't know where you've gotten that it was supposed to be THE darkest album, I always just heard it was going to be as aggressive and dark as the older stuff.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 04, 2012, 12:48 PM
I just want to hear the last record made by the Deftones I grew up with.
Amen.
Chino said it multiple times in the past and more recently in a interview from a couple of week's ago he said he starting playing some of the Eros songs on Abe's laptop and he had forgotten how dark and heavy it was,the video is Part 1 of the CraveOnline interview, But you can't always trust Chino lol
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 11:37 AM
Chino said it multiple times in the past and more recently in a interview from a couple of week's ago he said he starting playing some of the Eros songs on Abe's laptop and he had forgotten how dark and heavy it was,the video is Part 1 of the CraveOnline interview, But you can't always trust Chino lol
I just watched the interview, he says its a really good song and it was really heavy, but not like sonically heavy, but like in terms of the lyrics and the whole vibe of the song. So.... Idk?
Yea he was basically saying it was dark thematically I don't know what it's it like compared self titled but they've always said it's really dark
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 11:57 AM
Yea he was basically saying it was dark thematically I don't know what it's it like compared self titled but they've always said it's really dark
The intro song in the clips kind of reminds me of "Deathblow" for some reason....
I think. i may be wrong that it ended up as Beauty school
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 12:03 PM
I think. i may be wrong that it ended up as Beauty school
Been denied multiple times by Ves and others. I doubt it myself regardless, because I don't really see too big of a similarity. I think if anything it was kind of an unconscious repetition of ideas.
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 12:17 PM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure
Also... "Beauty School" means nothing to me.....
That intro hurts my soul.... In the weirdest and best way possible :o :D
Big difference :P
Quote from: Electron§ on Dec 05, 2012, 12:19 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 12:17 PM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure
Also... "Beauty School" means nothing to me.....
That intro hurts my soul.... In the weirdest and best way possible :o :D
Big difference :P
just had this sudden clarity
does 'beauty school' is a story about getting blow job by cute high school girl???
check out the chorus
;D AWESOME HAHAHAHA
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 12:17 PM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure
I'm sure i heard the band say numerous times that DE and KNY are completely and thoroughly new. Shit ain't recycled guys, seriously already, lol. I mean how hard is it for them to write new? Not hard. Not Beauty School
Yeah it didn't mean it was on Eros it could have just been the riff they done it before written a riff and not used but then used it on the next album
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 12:17 PM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure
I remember around the time of Eros there were some other "voyeuristic" type videos going around. You could see better about how they were playing that song. Chino was on bass and Chi was playing the guitar. Chi was playing that riff well above the 12 fret mark. Beauty School is played much lower.
The song has a similar vibe but if you're going to say it's the same song reworked just based on the vibe, then you're going to have to say that all of their spacey songs are really just reworked Konami Codes.
It's not the same song.
That doesn't matter it's dependant on tuning Beauty school is Drop C and is around the 6th fret but you can also play it up past 12 with a different tuning I've seen tabs that are in a lower tuning and are up past 12 and it sounds exactly the same
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Dec 06, 2012, 03:37 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 05, 2012, 12:17 PM
Yeah i doubt it aswell it's probably just because it's around the same frets as Beauty School i don't really see a resemblance in the structure
I remember around the time of Eros there were some other "voyeuristic" type videos going around. You could see better about how they were playing that song. Chino was on bass and Chi was playing the guitar. Chi was playing that riff well above the 12 fret mark. Beauty School is played much lower.
The song has a similar vibe but if you're going to say it's the same song reworked just based on the vibe, then you're going to have to say that all of their spacey songs are really just reworked Konami Codes.
It's not the same song.
the first time i heard the start of beauty school, i thought 'waaaaaait a second' ;) reminded me of the intro to all the eros 'in the studio' clips too
Again they've got similar vibes but they're not the same song.
I think it's funny that so many people are comparing those songs and yet no one ever talks about how so many of their songs are just variations of Engine #9.
Of course there not the same song but they could have started with that riff and mixed it up to make the beauty school it just sounds like that riff could have evolved into Beauty school I'm not the only one who's said it reminds them of it look at the comments of those videos,They don't even have the same vibe Beauty school is alot more upbeat the notes just sound similar.I don't even know what your'e talking about with Engine #9 can you give some examples?
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 06, 2012, 04:10 AM
Of course there not the same song but they could have started with that riff and mixed it up to make the beauty school it just sounds like that riff could have evolved into Beauty school I'm not the only one who's said it reminds them of it look at the comments of those videos,They don't even have the same vibe Beauty school is alot more upbeat the notes just sound similar.I don't even know what your'e talking about with Engine #9 can you give some examples?
Engine #9 -> Headup -> Elite
Also, Korea -> Bloody Cape -> Royal (to a lesser extent)
Do you actually play guitar? I can see the similarities between head up and elite but all the rest just aren't close Royal if anything would be with Head up ,Also Korea and Bloody Cape are way different Korea changes alot more Bloody Cape is more repetitive
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 06, 2012, 05:42 AM
Do you actually play guitar? I can see the similarities between head up and elite but all the rest just aren't close Royal if anything would be with Head up ,Also Korea and Bloody Cape are way different Korea changes alot more Bloody Cape is more repetitive
Yeah I guess I've been playing guitar about 16 years now.
Engine #9, Headup, and Elite are all played in the same area of the guitar with a really similar groove (though in different tunings). They're incredibly similar. One of my only gripes with this band is when they occasionally get lazy and plagiarize themselves.
Korea and Bloody Cape have that same sort of pull off thing on the strings (and like I said, Royal to a lesser extent).
My point is, these songs have way more in common with each other than the Eros clip and Beauty School do. And they didn't evolve into each other. They're all separate distinct songs from different points in time.
From all information we have, Eros was essentially done except for the vocals. Why would they be putting studio clips and include a song that doesn't even make the album?
The band has also said they started over from scratch. Apparently, everything from that era didn't represent them artistically when they went to write Diamond Eyes. Yet, people seem to think that this one riff was OK to rehash? Doesn't make any sense.
They're different songs. If we ever see Eros, I can guarantee we'll hear this song in it's entirety on the album.
Yeah i even said myself earlier that I doubt it but it could be possible sometimes you write a cool little riff and don't use it for years then eventually you get song for it ,They do copy themselves sometimes but it's not usually obvious unless you play the songs because with the changes in tuning people don't usually notice ,I think that's ok as long as it's not too similar alot of bands do it worse tot the point you can't tell them apart easily.
April 1st, Deftones should release Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan as a double disc and title it Eros.
I hope they someday release the song with that intro that's often compared to Beauty School. Way better. Instantly gives me chills. It could very well be my favourite Deftones song if it was released. I'm curious for the studio version of Melanie too, and of course the rest of the Eros material, just for that missing piece of the puzzle between SNW and DE.
Quote from: TheyCallMeP on Dec 08, 2012, 04:41 PM
April 1st, Deftones should release Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan as a double disc and title it Eros.
thats fucking retarded
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Dec 21, 2012, 07:13 AM
Quote from: TheyCallMeP on Dec 08, 2012, 04:41 PM
April 1st, Deftones should release Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan as a double disc and title it Eros.
thats fucking retarded
:'(
2 more hours??
Quote from: SIGH on Nov 16, 2012, 05:10 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??
Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?
I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Jan 05, 2013, 09:43 PM
Quote from: SIGH on Nov 16, 2012, 05:10 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??
Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?
I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.
What?
They're not even remotely similar in any musical fashion.
Yeah I don't see any similarities apart from the claps
Quote from: iceache on Jan 06, 2013, 01:57 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Jan 05, 2013, 09:43 PM
Quote from: SIGH on Nov 16, 2012, 05:10 PM
Anyone else feel like "KNY" has some re-worked Eros material??
Was this not their fastest album (writing/recording time-wise)?
I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.
What?
They're not even remotely similar in any musical fashion.
TO ME, the slow part that Stef is playing at the beginning FOD sounds like the verse in Poltergeist, just sped up. The "chorus" of FOD sounds like a slower part to the "I let you pretend..." part in Poltergeist. I just hear similar note changes in Stef's part. That is all. Just my take. Is it that hard of concept to think that Stef might've reworked FOD to Poltergeist.
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Jan 06, 2013, 07:20 PM
Is it that hard of concept to think that Stef might've reworked FOD to Poltergeist.
Yes, it is, actually. As iceache has stated, they're not remotely similar in anyway. They're both heavy songs, I'll give you that, but they don't play at the same level of heaviness either.
Finger of Death is way better song :)
I don't think my anticipation/longing to hear this album will ever die...
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Jan 07, 2013, 07:31 AM
Finger of Death is way better song :)
No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Jan 05, 2013, 09:43 PM
I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.
I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.
........................ ;)
FOD/Bufallo does have vocals you've obviously only heard the instrumental demo listen to the live version from anaheim 09-30-2004
Deftones - Buffalo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_woQI1vSHRM#)
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 13, 2013, 02:22 AM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Jan 07, 2013, 07:31 AM
Finger of Death is way better song :)
No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Jan 05, 2013, 09:43 PM
I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.
I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.
Fuck you dude and fuck all the rest of you (all 3 of you haha) who are so butthurt at my IDEA/OPINION that both these songs are similar. I
wasn't starting an argument...just throwing around discussion. I WAS JUST SAYING IT
MIGHT BE A
RE-WORKED SONG. Shit. I didn't claim that it IS or that I have proof...once again..just my IDEA that it MIGHT be. Just what
I hear...holy fucking shit. If you guys don't agree, no need to fucking make me feel like a fucking dumb-ass. Just say, "nah, not really" and just move on. And since when is an argument 3 replies to ONE fucking post. I don't get you guys sometimes...
Haha i didn't try have a go at you I just said I didn't see it.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Jan 13, 2013, 05:16 AM
Haha i didn't try have a go at you I just said I didn't see it.
Well...except you sweetie ;P
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 13, 2013, 02:22 AM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Jan 07, 2013, 07:31 AM
Finger of Death is way better song :)
No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Jan 05, 2013, 09:43 PM
I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.
I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.
you area fucking idiot, why dont you do some research before you think, and realize that the majority of real tones fans live buffalo, yea it may never see the light of day , and people are tired of the hype it gets yes, but fuck it all you people are just maladroits-its good song it outdhines polter and if you just became a fan from the last two albums shut the fuck up you dont know there music well enough to judge man
fuck you all this songs badass
im out
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....
Quote from: deftoner664 on Feb 16, 2013, 10:33 PM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....
Correct.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Jan 13, 2013, 02:38 AM
FOD/Bufallo does have vocals you've obviously only heard the instrumental demo listen to the live version from anaheim 09-30-2004
Deftones - Buffalo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_woQI1vSHRM#)
It DOES NOT have vocals, in the sense that there are no actual words... Only moaning/crooning/mumbling if you will, but no actual lyrics... It's obvious that he was just trying to get a feel for the melody but no actual lyrics... Don't know if that helps or is destroying this conversation. Later!
That's why I didn't say lyrics lol still counts as vocals
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Feb 21, 2013, 08:41 AM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Feb 16, 2013, 10:33 PM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....
Correct.
That sucks... Because, I really think that will be another reason this album will never grace our presence, because even if Chi does make a miraculous recovery, I doubt Chino will ever have the mindset to go that far back to a time and place where he was at a different point musically to finish the vocals to complete this album... Only way I see it releasing is like years down the road after Deftones are no more, and Warner wants to pump some cash from their name with the songs that were completed and mastered... Still, that me dreaming..
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Feb 21, 2013, 08:41 AM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Feb 16, 2013, 10:33 PM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....
Correct.
Got a source? I've always heard conflicting accounts of this and I'd like to know once and for all.
Quote from: nicklav on Feb 21, 2013, 10:57 PM
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Feb 21, 2013, 08:41 AM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Feb 16, 2013, 10:33 PM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....
Correct.
Got a source? I've always heard conflicting accounts of this and I'd like to know once and for all.
Can't remember what it was on but the guys were joking in an interview around eros time and Chino was saying how Stephen was playing lots of golf and on-line poker and the rest of the guys said something like we can do want we now we've got all our stuff done and Chino said something like yeah fair enough I'm almost though and then we're all going to be busy.
Quote from: nicklav on Feb 21, 2013, 10:57 PM
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Feb 21, 2013, 08:41 AM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Feb 16, 2013, 10:33 PM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....
Correct.
Got a source? I've always heard conflicting accounts of this and I'd like to know once and for all.
I'm sure there's actual sources in this topic but it's been stated in multiple interviews by possibly every band member that the music was finished and vocals got half-way done..
Quote from: nicklav on Feb 21, 2013, 10:57 PM
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Feb 21, 2013, 08:41 AM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Feb 16, 2013, 10:33 PM
Chino never finished all the vocals on Eros, right?, anyone?....
Correct.
Got a source? I've always heard conflicting accounts of this and I'd like to know once and for all.
Here is a quote from an interview with Stef.
QuoteI'm interested in the circumstances surrounding the making of Diamond Eyes. It's unique considering the Chi situation and the postponement of Eros.
When it relates to Chi, it's two different Deftones. On one hand, we have Chi and a record that is nearly finished; it's not all the way finished. The music is [done], but it's just not all the way finished. It's two separate entities, because we're all focused on what's going on with Chi and we can get a little emotional about that. But we balance it out by having this other Deftones where we're all having a great time making music and doing this record. That's what it comes down to.
http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/06/11/all-eyes-on-the-deftones-the-stephen-carpenter-interview/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/06/11/all-eyes-on-the-deftones-the-stephen-carpenter-interview/)
Also found this as well.
QuoteYou had Eros written, but not recorded, before it...
FD: Yeah, pretty much. Chino was still doing vocals on half the tracks [before the accident], but music-wise it had been finished for a while.
http://thequietus.com/articles/04377-deftones-interview-diamond-eyesr (http://thequietus.com/articles/04377-deftones-interview-diamond-eyesr)
The whole "only have way done with his vocals" thing could mean two different things. On the optimistic side, he's already written all the vocals for the songs, just didn't get around to recording half of them. On the other hand, it could mean that he never wrote lyrics or melodies for half of the songs. That would suck. Knowing both their hesitancy to revisit old stuff and their notorious laziness, the chances of Chino writing lyrics and vocal melodies for stuff that is years old would be pretty much zero. If that was the case, the best we could hope for would be an EP.
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Jan 13, 2013, 09:47 AM
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 13, 2013, 02:22 AM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Jan 07, 2013, 07:31 AM
Finger of Death is way better song :)
No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Jan 05, 2013, 09:43 PM
I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.
I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.
you area fucking idiot, why dont you do some research before you think, and realize that the majority of real tones fans live buffalo, yea it may never see the light of day , and people are tired of the hype it gets yes, but fuck it all you people are just maladroits-its good song it outdhines polter and if you just became a fan from the last two albums shut the fuck up you dont know there music well enough to judge man
fuck you all this songs badass
im out
Wow, you really know how to throw a little temper tantrum.
Did you run off and go and break one of your toys or do you think this is at last your time to act tough because you're on the internet hiding behind your computer?
You seem very touchy, is it your time of the month?
How would you even know from which album I became a fan?
Lastly before you use fancy words like maladroit why don't you actually check what they mean first fool.
Jeez your sentence doesn't even make sense, I don't know why I'm stooping to your level by replying.
Thanks DeftonesNZ, I never realized there was a version with vocals - understanding what the fuss is about now!
Chill out Jerry_Curls, noones trying to pull you down, sorry should have put a wink next to my reply.
mother fucker
i dont hide behind my"compute screen" as you put it , i dont live on this board like some people do
im just tired of eros, and any related material getting put down-this page is for it, NOT against it
and if you wana keep talking, PM me guy.
I think we all will hear this album within 2-3 years after they hang it up .
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Feb 28, 2013, 08:19 PM
mother fucker
i dont hide behind my"compute screen" as you put it , i dont live on this board like some people do
im just tired of eros, and any related material getting put down-this page is for it, NOT against it
and if you wana keep talking, PM me guy.
Who's putting down Eros?
A bit difficult to do seeing as though we haven't heard it yet.
Calm down, go punch a wall or something.
Quote from: Hank on Feb 28, 2013, 11:43 PM
I think we all will hear this album within 2-3 years after they hang it up .
I'm afraid you're probably right :( - when I first heard Melanie I never thought I'd still be waiting or even have to wait til after they've called it a day to hear the studio version.
I don't want to go down the 'Will they end' route but I'd certainly love them to end at a high point (Dare I say currently). Nothing worse than fading away but I know that's subjective.... As long as I can see them a few more times obviously.
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Mar 01, 2013, 05:51 PM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Feb 28, 2013, 08:19 PM
mother fucker
i dont hide behind my"compute screen" as you put it , i dont live on this board like some people do
im just tired of eros, and any related material getting put down-this page is for it, NOT against it
and if you wana keep talking, PM me guy.
Who's putting down Eros?
A bit difficult to do seeing as though we haven't heard it yet.
Calm down, go punch a wall or something.
i masterbated angrily to twilight i feel better now
using generalization confuses some people, by EROS i meant BUFFALO, which we have heard.
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Feb 28, 2013, 03:10 PM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Jan 13, 2013, 09:47 AM
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 13, 2013, 02:22 AM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Jan 07, 2013, 07:31 AM
Finger of Death is way better song :)
No it's not and that's a fact.
FOD isn't even a song, a song is sung and there's no vocals in FOD.
Despite the fact that it doesn't have vocals, it sounds nothing like Poltergeist, not even close!
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Jan 05, 2013, 09:43 PM
I kind of feel like Poltergeist is a sped-up reworked version of Finger of Death...just my take on it.
I kind of feel like you're starting an argument for the sake of it.
you area fucking idiot, why dont you do some research before you think, and realize that the majority of real tones fans live buffalo, yea it may never see the light of day , and people are tired of the hype it gets yes, but fuck it all you people are just maladroits-its good song it outdhines polter and if you just became a fan from the last two albums shut the fuck up you dont know there music well enough to judge man
fuck you all this songs badass
im out
Wow, you really know how to throw a little temper tantrum.
Did you run off and go and break one of your toys or do you think this is at last your time to act tough because you're on the internet hiding behind your computer?
You seem very touchy, is it your time of the month?
How would you even know from which album I became a fan?
Lastly before you use fancy words like maladroit why don't you actually check what they mean first fool.
Jeez your sentence doesn't even make sense, I don't know why I'm stooping to your level by replying.
Thanks DeftonesNZ, I never realized there was a version with vocals - understanding what the fuss is about now!
Chill out Jerry_Curls, noones trying to pull you down, sorry should have put a wink next to my reply.
I would LOVE if you edited your post with a wink. KTHXBYE :)
Holy mother fuck. I want to hear this album. I want the anti-melody back.
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Mar 02, 2013, 12:49 AM
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Mar 01, 2013, 05:51 PM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Feb 28, 2013, 08:19 PM
mother fucker
i dont hide behind my"compute screen" as you put it , i dont live on this board like some people do
im just tired of eros, and any related material getting put down-this page is for it, NOT against it
and if you wana keep talking, PM me guy.
Who's putting down Eros?
A bit difficult to do seeing as though we haven't heard it yet.
Calm down, go punch a wall or something.
i masterbated angrily to twilight i feel better now
using generalization confuses some people, by EROS i meant BUFFALO, which we have heard.
"Buffalo" isn't from Eros. But if it was, I think that'd be a pretty good reason for people to get excited about this album ever being potentially released.
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 03, 2013, 05:56 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both
Correct, "Buffalo/Finger of Death" was first performed in September 2004 in Anaheim at one of their shows, thats before a majority SNW songs were probably even thought of yet, so unless they planned two albums in advance, theres no way that song was supposed to be on Eros.
Quote from: Electron§ on Mar 03, 2013, 06:03 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 03, 2013, 05:56 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both
Correct, "Buffalo/Finger of Death" was first performed in September 2004 in Anaheim at one of their shows, thats before a majority SNW songs were probably even thought of yet, so unless they planned two albums in advance, theres no way that song was supposed to be on Eros.
After deftones 2003, the SNW Era began and the writing started in 2004. From the Malibu sessions, Buffalo/Finger of Death was born.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 03, 2013, 05:56 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both
I'd like to hear Melanie, even if the studio demo like Buffalo, the riff on an 8-string will sound amazing!
I'm gonna bump this thread mainly because I found something interesting.
Searching around Google for Eros clues, I came across this graphic designer who conceptualized his idea of Eros CD packaging, complete with tentative songs and stuff. Pretty cool shit
http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD-Packaging-Design/5725849 (http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD-Packaging-Design/5725849)
Already been posted in here before but it is a neat idea.
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 04, 2013, 10:28 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Mar 03, 2013, 06:03 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 03, 2013, 05:56 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both
Correct, "Buffalo/Finger of Death" was first performed in September 2004 in Anaheim at one of their shows, thats before a majority SNW songs were probably even thought of yet, so unless they planned two albums in advance, theres no way that song was supposed to be on Eros.
After deftones 2003, the SNW Era began and the writing started in 2004. From the Malibu sessions, Buffalo/Finger of Death was born.
I was at the show the day before this one ;-) I'm looking at some of those promo posters they were giving at this tours' shows (
searching the machine might reveal what you don't want to know spring 2005 and then another one from Taste of Chaos tour that says "Jesus Loves You-I know" and says Deftones New Album Summer 2006) and I love how uncertain/pushed back SNW was...so when were the Malibu sessions? Right after S/T tour in Spring 2004? or after the Hollywood/Anaheim HOB shows?
p.s. sorry to get off EROS topic :-)
Thanks to everyone who answered my question a page back or so.
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Mar 17, 2013, 12:58 AM
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 04, 2013, 10:28 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Mar 03, 2013, 06:03 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 03, 2013, 05:56 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both
Correct, "Buffalo/Finger of Death" was first performed in September 2004 in Anaheim at one of their shows, thats before a majority SNW songs were probably even thought of yet, so unless they planned two albums in advance, theres no way that song was supposed to be on Eros.
After deftones 2003, the SNW Era began and the writing started in 2004. From the Malibu sessions, Buffalo/Finger of Death was born.
I was at the show the day before this one ;-) I'm looking at some of those promo posters they were giving at this tours' shows (searching the machine might reveal what you don't want to know spring 2005 and then another one from Taste of Chaos tour that says "Jesus Loves You-I know" and says Deftones New Album Summer 2006) and I love how uncertain/pushed back SNW was...so when were the Malibu sessions? Right after S/T tour in Spring 2004? or after the Hollywood/Anaheim HOB shows?
p.s. sorry to get off EROS topic :-)
Never saw that Taste of Chaos poster, you have a pic? The "searching the machine" posters were from the mini-tour in fall 2004 (no 2005 shows) when the band headed to Connecticut (the tour ended in Hartford), where they would hook up with Ezrin to record SNW at the end of 2004 and early 2005. Prior to this, they were writing in Malibu (cerca Feb-Aug 2004).
2 More Hours!
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Mar 18, 2013, 01:47 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Curls on Mar 17, 2013, 12:58 AM
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 04, 2013, 10:28 AM
Quote from: Electron§ on Mar 03, 2013, 06:03 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 03, 2013, 05:56 AM
Yeah for memory Buffalo is a SNW era song, Melanie is the Eros song. I really want to hear studio versions of both
Correct, "Buffalo/Finger of Death" was first performed in September 2004 in Anaheim at one of their shows, thats before a majority SNW songs were probably even thought of yet, so unless they planned two albums in advance, theres no way that song was supposed to be on Eros.
After deftones 2003, the SNW Era began and the writing started in 2004. From the Malibu sessions, Buffalo/Finger of Death was born.
I was at the show the day before this one ;-) I'm looking at some of those promo posters they were giving at this tours' shows (searching the machine might reveal what you don't want to know spring 2005 and then another one from Taste of Chaos tour that says "Jesus Loves You-I know" and says Deftones New Album Summer 2006) and I love how uncertain/pushed back SNW was...so when were the Malibu sessions? Right after S/T tour in Spring 2004? or after the Hollywood/Anaheim HOB shows?
p.s. sorry to get off EROS topic :-)
Never saw that Taste of Chaos poster, you have a pic? The "searching the machine" posters were from the mini-tour in fall 2004 (no 2005 shows) when the band headed to Connecticut (the tour ended in Hartford), where they would hook up with Ezrin to record SNW at the end of 2004 and early 2005. Prior to this, they were writing in Malibu (cerca Feb-Aug 2004).
ignorethefashion just posted these in the bullshit thread...coincidence!
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/079/8/b/deftones_tour_postcard_by_sd_cesar-d5yqq86.jpg)
Quote from: BunsRaisinsPies on Mar 16, 2013, 08:55 PM
I'm gonna bump this thread mainly because I found something interesting.
Searching around Google for Eros clues, I came across this graphic designer who conceptualized his idea of Eros CD packaging, complete with tentative songs and stuff. Pretty cool shit
http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD-Packaging-Design/5725849 (http://www.behance.net/gallery/Deftones-Eros-CD-Packaging-Design/5725849)
I have never seen that, thanks for posting it!
Yup.. It was posted on their website.
that's some good stuff, i think it was the background of the website at some point in 2006/2007
the best (visual) deftones page ever
http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html (http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html)
Quote from: luisch on Mar 22, 2013, 01:18 AM
the best (visual) deftones page ever
http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html (http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html)
sin duda alguna... no doubt about it..
Quote from: luisch on Mar 22, 2013, 01:18 AM
the best (visual) deftones page ever
http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html (http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html)
Brings me back somethin fierce.
Quote from: luisch on Mar 22, 2013, 01:18 AM
the best (visual) deftones page ever
http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html (http://www.monitorpop.com/def-sites/6/index.html)
sick!!!
*Facepalm* how many years do we need to wait.... Really, Deftones, really?
The album seems to be The Holy Grail in Deftones catalogue.I cant say Im not intrigued. Love Melanie and demo bits. Ive spoken to Shaun Lopez after FAR reunion London ULU gig in 2008 and he said that album is basically done. We talked about Chi and stuff, but he also said that after that short UK FAR tour , he (Slopez) gonna record vocals with Chino... So music was done. Dont think Chino recorded any vocals as they scrapped the album altogether soon after...
Quote from: TonyDanza555 on Apr 02, 2013, 09:47 PM
The album seems to be The Holy Grail in Deftones catalogue.I cant say Im not intrigued. Love Melanie and demo bits. Ive spoken to Shaun Lopez after FAR reunion London ULU gig in 2008 and he said that album is basically done. We talked about Chi and stuff, but he also said that after that short UK FAR tour , he (Slopez) gonna record vocals with Chino... So music was done. Dont think Chino recorded any vocals as they scrapped the album altogether soon after...
No the vocals on some songs we're done, I believe they were close to half-way with the vocals from all the information I've head here in interviews. I can't find them now though.
This is something terry said about the record. He said nothing really, but I thought I'd share anyway
As the interview ended, and being that Deftones are a large part of some peoples discography we had the opportunity to ask about the sidelined Eros record. Date was humble in his response saying,"I think because of the circumstances, it is the band's record. It is there place to make any statement about the record. Chi is a very good friend and always has been and I can only hope that he wakes up and we can see him playing bass again."(Deftones bassist Chi Cheng was involved in a terrible car accident in the latter part of 2008 that has left him in a semi-conscious state).
Source: http://kuoi.org/music/interviews/terry-date/ (http://kuoi.org/music/interviews/terry-date/)
Have not said much about this record... But could this be released in like a year now since Chi passed? Would be a great thing to hear his work on this one.....
Thank God, you broke the ice! I wanted to post something about a potential Eros release on this thread earlier today, but felt it would seem too selfish or greedy--given the obvious situation at hand.
I, however, got to thinking a lot about this album (moreso than usual) and, as much as I've wanted this personally and as a fan, think it would be a great tribute to Chi and his legacy to release this album and pay homage to his impact on the band as a whole.
Call it an excuse, if you must. But just an idea I had.
I think Eros will be released in the next year or two for sure. It sucks that it will finally be released due to such sad circumstances, but, as pinata89 said, it will also be a great tribute to Dai and his legacy.
If they don't release it, I think that would almost be in bad taste. This album has twice as much importance now....
I think it would be a fitting tribute to him, reading those blog posts from the weeks before the accident he seemed really excited to show the fans the music he sounded really proud of what they had made, Also his family have mentioned they plan on doing something to carry on his name like a charity for brain trauma or seatbelt awareness this could be a great opportunity to inject some money into a worthy cause that also honours his memory, they could have a portion of album sales go to Chi's charity and with all the people that would buy the album it would be enough to really help some people especially since I doubt many people would feel ok about pirating it.
It'd be a good idea to release it, the last music Chi worked on, and everyone has wanted to hear it for ages. But do you think they will? It seems far-fetched to think they'll ever release it, just because it's become this hidden, locked-away thing that everyone wants. Hopefully they will, though, and hopefully people will look at it with the respect it deserves.
Yeah I think they've always intended to release it but if possible they wanted Chi to be conscious for it but now that options gone I can see them doing it as a tribute to Chi instead I still don't think it'll be soon maybe in a year or two, if they do it they'll want it to be done right.
I would buy this album in every format if they released it. I do that anyways for Deftones records, so maybe I'll have to do it twice over for this.
I think they could charge whatever they want for it, fans would buy it anyway. At least I'd do so.
Hopefully they won't sell it through their website only. I have no credit card or paypal and do not plan to get them in the future.
Yeah neither do I plus I like to have a physical copy anyway especially if the price is the same. Would be sweet if they made it like a special edition Chi memorial album and charged a bit more than usual but had it in really nice packaging with a decent booklet with stories about Chi with photo's, maybe with a t-shirt or something aswell.
I have a feeling we will never hear it. :( It reckon it will be too hard for them. Just what i think anyway.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 01, 2011, 02:17 PM
Well, that was totally unexpected, but...
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s_SswA0Jbw8/TH2Pt9ptPTI/AAAAAAAAAs8/IH1q-XX6xpw/s400/7c82a15d.jpg)
Tracklist:
Dallas (4'37)
XO (5'11)
Alisson (3'44)
Destiny (2'16)
Melanie (2'40)
Latex (3'57)
You ate it (4'01)
Firelegs (3'12)
Trempest (2'30)
Maya (5'36)
Download (320kbps MP3):
www.mediafire.com/?3ibw0om00jf (http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/april-fools.jpg)
Mind = blown.
Trempest. Pre-Tempest?
I don't know if he used some working titles there, Just curious coincidence haha...
Quote from: defTHE1s on Apr 17, 2013, 06:38 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 01, 2011, 02:17 PM
Well, that was totally unexpected, but...
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s_SswA0Jbw8/TH2Pt9ptPTI/AAAAAAAAAs8/IH1q-XX6xpw/s400/7c82a15d.jpg)
Tracklist:
Dallas (4'37)
XO (5'11)
Alisson (3'44)
Destiny (2'16)
Melanie (2'40)
Latex (3'57)
You ate it (4'01)
Firelegs (3'12)
Trempest (2'30)
Maya (5'36)
Download (320kbps MP3):
www.mediafire.com/?3ibw0om00jf (http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/april-fools.jpg)
Mind = blown.
Trempest. Pre-Tempest?
I don't know if he used some working titles there, Just curious coincidence haha...
Trempest was a tentative Eros title. The band has addressed that it's a different song from Tempest.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Apr 17, 2013, 07:27 AM
Yeah neither do I plus I like to have a physical copy anyway especially if the price is the same. Would be sweet if they made it like a special edition Chi memorial album and charged a bit more than usual but had it in really nice packaging with a decent booklet with stories about Chi with photo's, maybe with a t-shirt or something aswell.
That'd be a great idea, someone could probably suggest that to the band (in the future, not any time soon) if they were close enough.
it will never be released...
Quote from: jaypayton on Apr 18, 2013, 02:11 AM
it will never be released...
Why not? the band has never said it wouldn't be released they've always just said it would be when the times is right , basically they said they were hoping they could release when Chi was conscious again.
IS Eros available in Demos? I saw a guy say on facebook say he was listening to the album of demos..... i take hes just chatting shit?
Quote from: DJR on Apr 18, 2013, 03:49 PM
IS Eros available in Demos? I saw a guy say on facebook say he was listening to the album of demos..... i take hes just chatting shit?
bullshit, nothing of EROS was released to the date.
I'd give my left ball for Eros... *sigh*
Quote from: luisch on Apr 18, 2013, 04:02 PM
Quote from: DJR on Apr 18, 2013, 03:49 PM
IS Eros available in Demos? I saw a guy say on facebook say he was listening to the album of demos..... i take hes just chatting shit?
bullshit, nothing of EROS was released to the date.
No, i thought so...its just i thought id missed something
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Apr 18, 2013, 04:11 PM
I'd give my left ball for Eros... *sigh*
and I'll help with my right one
Quote from: DJR on Apr 18, 2013, 04:49 PM
Quote from: luisch on Apr 18, 2013, 04:02 PM
Quote from: DJR on Apr 18, 2013, 03:49 PM
IS Eros available in Demos? I saw a guy say on facebook say he was listening to the album of demos..... i take hes just chatting shit?
bullshit, nothing of EROS was released to the date.
No, i thought so...its just i thought id missed something
If anything he probably had the bob ezrin demos or was just talking bull shit.
Probably a dumb question. But was Eros actually completed? Like mastered and mixed? Or did they leave it in the demo phase?
All the instrumental parts are finished, but Chino was only about halfway through the vocals when Chi had the accident.
So if they released it would he finish the vocals or would it just be "as is"?
Quote from: Heisenberg on Apr 22, 2013, 06:31 PM
So if they released it would he finish the vocals or would it just be "as is"?
I think it would be released "as is" because Deftones have said that their records are some kind of "time stamp" and thats one of the reasons every record sounds different and i dont think that Chino will be able to go back to that emotinal space/state and write/sing lyrics that matches "Eros' sound"... but who knows really.
I just hope that they release everything and not just the finished songs with vocals.
I know we'll only get something lame. I can feel it. Worst thing to me would be the band only releasing a handful of songs that "still fit their today's standpoint as a band", or even worse, rerecording the album and adjusting and tweaking it to their current style. I mean, I like KNY, but I would like Eros to be just as they used to describe it: dark, complex and heavy. Imagine an originally dark and moody song with new, "Entombed-like" vocals...
They will definitely not do any re-recording. I know I wouldn't. However, I think that when/if they decide to release something, it might only be one or two tracks that they feel are the best or most complete or best represent the rest of the album. Then after an outcry from the fans saying they want the whole thing perhaps even later they'd release it as is. But who knows.
I'm assuming Chino had written vocals to all the songs and they rehearsed them as a full band. Eros had been in development since May 2007, so it was worked on for a good year and a half. It might sound odd and disconnected if one half of Eros had 08-styled vocals, and the other half had Chino's newer singing style. However, it's Chino, so I think he could pull it off. I think.
Can they finally release Eros, and give the profits to Chi's family?
Can we get a petition going or something? Haha... Was going through all the old clips again just now and I'm so interested to hear it more than ever.
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Aug 21, 2011, 06:02 PM
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Absolutely correct.
Quote from: defTHE1s on Apr 29, 2013, 09:16 PM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Aug 21, 2011, 06:02 PM
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Absolutely correct.
Xo?
Quote from: cvthedrv on Apr 29, 2013, 11:00 PM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Apr 29, 2013, 09:16 PM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Aug 21, 2011, 06:02 PM
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Absolutely correct.
Xo?
DEFTONES - Summer Tour 2007, Chapter 13 - Portland, OR (06-07-07) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3D6ROEWDSQ#)
0:50
Quote from: luisch on Apr 30, 2013, 01:33 AM
Quote from: cvthedrv on Apr 29, 2013, 11:00 PM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Apr 29, 2013, 09:16 PM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Aug 21, 2011, 06:02 PM
Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Absolutely correct.
Xo?
DEFTONES - Summer Tour 2007, Chapter 13 - Portland, OR (06-07-07) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3D6ROEWDSQ#)
0:50
Excellent find! Thank you very much.
You're welcome, bud.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 15, 2011, 09:44 PM
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If they made an entire album as dark and sad as Finger of Death is, it would be the greatest goddamn thing ever.
Fuck. Yeah.
Amen.
Complete agree.
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 28, 2011, 12:58 PM
i'm starting to understand the closer of the album now and it's just just amazing. there's this repetitive riff that chino sings to for half the song, no verse or chorus it's just keeps on going. then in the middle of the song, steph begins to play the riff backwards while chino continues to sing the same melody which is the wierdest thing ever. then the last minute it gets real heavy like in royal and chino begins to sing the melody backwards too, this while he sounds like an ancient evil witch, which is strange because at the same time it sounds very spacey and futuristic, love the effects on his voice. best ending of a record i've ever heard
If only....
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Apr 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
When I first heard Melanie I thought ''What a cool song - I can't wait, in a few weeks/months I'll be listening to the studio version on my new copy of Eros.''
Little did I know :(
So sad.. same here :(
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Xo is definetively an S/T outtake, if i'm not wrong it was to be released on the bloody cape single (which never came out)
Absolutely correct.
Xo?
DEFTONES - Summer Tour 2007, Chapter 13 - Portland, OR (06-07-07) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3D6ROEWDSQ#)
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Excellent find! Thank you very much.
What the hell is Chino talking about when he says "Like "Kevin Sorbo" or "Lovers"..."? Is there an S/T outtake called "Kevin Sorbo"? :P lol
Kevin Sorbo was the working title for Lovers
Oh and I'm apparently the only Deftones fan ever who couldn't give a shit about "Finger Of Death".
Quote from: laurapalmer on May 01, 2013, 06:42 AM
Oh and I'm apparently the only Deftones fan ever who couldn't give a shit about "Finger Of Death".
where have you been
we've been moaning all the time since finger of deatch surfaced. it will ended up like bumble b, untitled 1, untitled 2, and maybe like melanie.
plus
its pre snw, definitely not on eros.
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Quote from: laurapalmer on May 01, 2013, 06:42 AM
Oh and I'm apparently the only Deftones fan ever who couldn't give a shit about "Finger Of Death".
where have you been
we've been moaning all the time since finger of deatch surfaced. it will ended up like bumble b, untitled 1, untitled 2, and maybe like melanie.
plus
its pre snw, definitely not on eros.
Oh I'm aware. It just shocks me that it makes its way into every thread. It wasn't that great guys.
Well, that new Kerrang article about Chi really makes it sound like Chino doesn't want to release Eros. Not sure what to think. Only time will tell, I guess.
I don't think Terry was even that great when it came to pre recording stuff, he basically just let them fuck around for a couple of years until they had stuff they were ready to record and then he'd come in, Terry's done great work with Deftones but I think it was more because they were left to their own devices so ideas got fleshed out more naturally not Terry coming up with stuff.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on May 02, 2013, 11:24 PM
I don't think Terry was even that great when it came to pre recording stuff, he basically just let them fuck around for a couple of years until they had stuff they were ready to record and then he'd come in, Terry's done great work with Deftones but I think it was more because they were left to their own devices so ideas got fleshed out more naturally not Terry coming up with stuff.
Maybe that's what him so great, letting the band flesh out their ideas and then capturing the best parts. I much prefer his records over Nick's.
Yeah I lean towards his aswell but I don't think it's because of him, I think it's because all the stuff they were going through personally back then made the music raw and emotional.
That's a good point.
It'll be interesting to see if they make a darker record with Nick next time for some reason I think this Chi thing is going to produce some rawer music.
I prefer Terry over Nick for various reasons.
Terry let the band take their time, work at their own pace and flesh the songs out the way they wanted them. It feels like Nick gets a bit over involved and shapes how the band views their songwriting too much. The band calls it a "good work ethic" and much more "productive", I call it faster and a bit less thought out.
Also Terry got guitar and drum tones a million times better sounding than Nick. Guitars sounded HUGE, vocals had effects but didn't rely on them so heavily, drums were thick with a nice snappy snare and the way he mic'd the kit seemed to accentuate Abe's hard hitting. Also he kept Frank more subtle in the mix and created soundscapes instead of a synth player. Also Chi was actually in the mix where I find Nick keeps Sergio a bit low a lot of the time.
That's just how I feel. Terry fit the bands sound and helped them sound unique. Not like "rock radio" Deftones who can meet a deadline but leave some things to be desired.
How is the relationship with Terry Date now? They are still friends right?
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 03, 2013, 01:49 AM
I prefer Terry over Nick for various reasons.
Terry let the band take their time, work at their own pace and flesh the songs out the way they wanted them. It feels like Nick gets a bit over involved and shapes how the band views their songwriting too much. The band calls it a "good work ethic" and much more "productive", I call it faster and a bit less thought out.
Also Terry got guitar and drum tones a million times better sounding than Nick. Guitars sounded HUGE, vocals had effects but didn't rely on them so heavily, drums were thick with a nice snappy snare and the way he mic'd the kit seemed to accentuate Abe's hard hitting. Also he kept Frank more subtle in the mix and created soundscapes instead of a synth player. Also Chi was actually in the mix where I find Nick keeps Sergio a bit low a lot of the time.
That's just how I feel. Terry fit the bands sound and helped them sound unique. Not like "rock radio" Deftones who can meet a deadline but leave some things to be desired.
Great points. Although I wouldn't say Rick keeps Sergio "low" a lot of the time . Sergio really shines on KNY( the closer is sick and he really stands out throughout the whole album) and most of the songs on DE.
I do prefer the sound Terry helped them make on the albums he worked on.
Yeah he definitely records them better, but I would like to know if Nick actually changes songs or whether he gets them to the same point they would of eventually got to themselves faster, I personally feel the result would be the same with Terry, Nick seems to get blamed for making them make softer music but really it was the effect of Chi's accident that made them be more positive they have all said it felt stupid complaining about stuff when Chi wasn't able to do the stuff they take for granted, "rock radio" is just a term your using because it's more positive, the musicianship is still there the guitar playing itself has stepped up a whole lot since DE. lyrically and sonically it's better than any real made for radio songs. It's hard to explain but I think the reason people call this commercial is because it's a happier record and it's hard to seem sincere when singing happy stuff it's not like angry music where you just yell or sad music where you sing quietly and if you're not doing that people especially metal fans seem to think it's insincere or commercial.
I agree.
I highly doubt Nick changes anything as far as the way they want their work to sound.
If I recall Chino had problems with Bob Ezrin because of a situation that was maybe like that.
They talked about the Bob thing recently and it was mostly just the fact they did things completely different to him, basically Bob was clinical and expected everyone to come and work like a 9-5 job because he is used to running a tight ship, he was shocked at how Chino didn't come in with lyrics he basically expected to them to sit there and write on cue rather than the more natural way they flesh out ideas where they just hang out and freestyle jam, they also said he was an amazing musician and that he could pick up any of their instruments and play it better than them, because of this and his musical knowledge he could write almost systematically and just didn't get how the guys would just sort of feel stuff out to write a song.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on May 03, 2013, 02:56 AM
They talked about the Bob thing recently and it was mostly just the fact they did things completely different to him, basically Bob was clinical and expected everyone to come and work like a 9-5 job because he is used to running a tight ship, he was shocked at how Chino didn't come in with lyrics he basically expected to them to sit there and write on cue rather than the more natural way they flesh out ideas where they just hang out and freestyle jam, they also said he was an amazing musician and that he could pick up any of their instruments and play it better than them, because of this and his musical knowledge he could write almost systematically and just didn't get how the guys would just sort of feel stuff out to write a song.
This sounds familiar but idk where I heard it.
Source?
I can't exactly but it was fairly recent maybe that one from DE era that was only published the other day?
"I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty." - Chi on Eros
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1589683/gojira-flesh-out-new-lp-metal-file.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1589683/gojira-flesh-out-new-lp-metal-file.jhtml)
Quote from: Inkblades on May 08, 2013, 04:42 AM
"I truly believe this album to be well worth the wait and appreciate all your support and kind loyalty." - Chi on Eros
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1589683/gojira-flesh-out-new-lp-metal-file.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1589683/gojira-flesh-out-new-lp-metal-file.jhtml)
:(
DEFTONES LOST ALBUM WITH CHI TO BE RELEASED, KOI NO YOKAN GOLDEN GODS WORTHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UvDp1oRmjY#ws)
oh snap!
Fuck yes, Chino was the one holding off from what Stephens said so if he thinks it's near the time it will be.
Great news. I'm very glad. It's the right decision.
EROS is going to assrape KNY and DE. An entire record of deftones prior to Chi's accident; fuck yes.
Eros is going to be such a beautiful amazing album. Stephen said the album was 75% done, 100% musically (most important) and 50% vocals, just waiting for Chino. Which is a perfect scenario because if Chi and the band did all they're parts together it's a genuine classic Deftones lineup record and the lyrics and melodies always come last anyway, so Chino please take your time and make it classical like always!
i bet my penis that im sure 98% of you guys are going to bash the album once its out.
amazing, Bza々its you in the picture?
Quote from: Danny Keyes on May 11, 2013, 04:20 AM
i bet my penis that im sure 98% of you guys are going to bash the album once its out.
no way 99%
I think Chino needs to get on those vocals pretty quick, it may seem stupid but at the moment they're pretty down and twisted emotionally like when Eros was initially made so in order for him to sort of make that music again he needs to be in that state of mind could also be a therapeutic way of dealing with Chi's death.
Quote from: Danny Keyes on May 11, 2013, 04:20 AM
i bet my penis that im sure 98% of you guys are going to bash the album once its out.
True they always will but deep down they will love it, and they have to says 10 bucks they spent.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on May 11, 2013, 04:24 AM
I think Chino needs to get on those vocals pretty quick, it may seem stupid but at the moment they're pretty down and twisted emotionally like when Eros was initially made so in order for him to sort of make that music again he needs to be in that state of mind could also be a therapeutic way of dealing with Chi's death.
Ya I agree on it being a therapy and I think that alone will make it something special, but I don't care how long it takes, he's busy, plus they just put out their 2 strongest pieces of work since that era anyway and done loads of touring and so forth. they're playing Ozzfest as we speak, so there is a lot of work to do.
Yeah I know they would hold on to it for a while to release it but for the cohesiveness it would be good to get on it quick. Either way I'm sure I'll love it I like all aspects of Deftones even the more polished new stuff but I have a special soft spot for the darker stuff like Self Titled.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on May 11, 2013, 04:44 AM
Yeah I know they would hold on to it for a while to release it but for the cohesiveness it would be good to get on it quick. Either way I'm sure I'll love it I like all aspects of Deftones even the more polished new stuff but I have a special soft spot for the darker stuff like Self Titled.
Nice I just put that album on. And to be honest all of they're albums have been my favorite at some point, I don't close my mind on one sound. Self Titled is a very nice record, 10/10 easy.
I bet Eros will be out in spring 2014 for sure.
I really doubt chino will finish vocals on it.
I would way prefer them to leave it unfinished and release it.
I'd rather Chino finish his vocals on the album. Given Chi's death, I feel like he's going to let it all out and have this be the most emotionally angry and depressing Deftones album yet, which will undoubtedly turn out to be completely fucking beautiful in an emotionally fucked kind of way.
Also, I'm new here. Hi guys!
I'm very excited about the prospect, but I will keep my hopes well under control. He didn't say it will absolutely be released, and there's no telling how the album will be handled by the band. Time will tell, but it's definitely good news that it's at least being considered. Good or bad, pending the emergence of details on an absolute release, this will be the most anticipated Deftones release for me since Self-Titled.
Much respect,
-Matt
I'd be happy either way but I'm guessing they'll finish it , it just seems if they release it they will want to release it how it was meant to be heard as a complete piece. I have complete faith in Chino to do it justice I know he'll do it right for Chi.
I'll believe it when I see/hear it. It's the right time but that's all up to the band and the powers that be.
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 11, 2013, 01:28 PM
I'll believe it when I see/hear it. It's the right time but that's all up to the band and the powers that be.
Yeah i'm not expecting it anytime soon but it's just good to know Chino's still wants it to be released, part of me thought he might just go the time will never be right now that Chi's and that it would never be released.
Quote from: MaximumPezcore on May 11, 2013, 06:13 AM
I'd rather Chino finish his vocals on the album. Given Chi's death, I feel like he's going to let it all out and have this be the most emotionally angry and depressing Deftones album yet, which will undoubtedly turn out to be completely fucking beautiful in an emotionally fucked kind of way.
Also, I'm new here. Hi guys!
I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like Chino doesn't feel very touched by Chi's death; I don't know about the others. There were few interviews where Chino, asked about Chi's condition, sounded very lame. He mentioned that he hadn't visit Chi for one year. If they were so great friends, how can you explain that Chino is not visiting Chi? Band often mention that they're like a family, but that just doesn't mix good with not visiting a friend who is in need of support. How can you not find enough time during whole year to visit a friend?
And there was this video interview posted somewhere where band is asked about Eros, and Steph pointed out in not friendly manner that Chino is the one responsible for all the situation with Eros.
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Quote from: MaximumPezcore on May 11, 2013, 06:13 AM
I'd rather Chino finish his vocals on the album. Given Chi's death, I feel like he's going to let it all out and have this be the most emotionally angry and depressing Deftones album yet, which will undoubtedly turn out to be completely fucking beautiful in an emotionally fucked kind of way.
Also, I'm new here. Hi guys!
I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like Chino doesn't feel very touched by Chi's death; I don't know about the others. There were few interviews where Chino, asked about Chi's condition, sounded very lame. He mentioned that he hadn't visit Chi for one year. If they were so great friends, how can you explain that Chino is not visiting Chi? Band often mention that they're like a family, but that just doesn't mix good with not visiting a friend who is in need of support. How can you not find enough time during whole year to visit a friend?
because his friend was a fucking plant dude, everybody copes with it differently. you are in no position to say any of this
I'm curious that others think about it.
No I don't think that's it I saw an interview where Chino said they as a group hadn't seen him in a year, but that doesn't mean individually. also those visits are extremely tough for the people that really care having had family members in a similar situation as Chi it kills you every you see them as just a shadow of their former self and it's especially tough because there's nothing you can do at all, it really fucks you up mentally you start thinking do they recognise me? do they understand what I'm saying at all? or is there nothing inside? it's extremely painful to see someone you care about like that, you really need to work yourself up to do one of those visits otherwise you'll just breakdown. Plus the pain is obvious you can see it in the couple of interviews they've done since his passing Chino will be happy and smiling but as soon as Chi has been mentioned Chino's face drops and goes super quiet and just sits silently looking really somber for the rest of the interview.
They're just trying to stay positive and strong, especially when they are in front of their fans and the public in general. It's the best therapy they can possibly get, I guess. I believe the band probably got very emotional about it several times when they were among themselves.
I doubt we'll see it this year... and we certainly wont hear it completed. It'll be as is, right now.
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Quote from: MaximumPezcore on May 11, 2013, 06:13 AM
I'd rather Chino finish his vocals on the album. Given Chi's death, I feel like he's going to let it all out and have this be the most emotionally angry and depressing Deftones album yet, which will undoubtedly turn out to be completely fucking beautiful in an emotionally fucked kind of way.
Also, I'm new here. Hi guys!
I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like Chino doesn't feel very touched by Chi's death; I don't know about the others. There were few interviews where Chino, asked about Chi's condition, sounded very lame. He mentioned that he hadn't visit Chi for one year. If they were so great friends, how can you explain that Chino is not visiting Chi? Band often mention that they're like a family, but that just doesn't mix good with not visiting a friend who is in need of support. How can you not find enough time during whole year to visit a friend?
And there was this video interview posted somewhere where band is asked about Eros, and Steph pointed out in not friendly manner that Chino is the one responsible for all the situation with Eros.
Jesus christ, fuck this.
Quote from: people are people on May 11, 2013, 04:21 AM
amazing, Bza々its you in the picture?
Ya totally bro, I'm Anne Frank 2.0 all day son.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on May 11, 2013, 04:24 AM
I think Chino needs to get on those vocals pretty quick, it may seem stupid but at the moment they're pretty down and twisted emotionally like when Eros was initially made so in order for him to sort of make that music again he needs to be in that state of mind could also be a therapeutic way of dealing with Chi's death.
Fuck that. He isn't the same person he was then. He'll just fuck it up with this new style of his. Release it as is.
Just my opinion on this new information regarding Eros.
I don't mean to be an asshole or anything just stating my opinion here.
I think SO many people here on this board will probably end up totally bashing Eros, if it is released, simply because it isn't ever going to be able to live up to the way THEY expect it to sound. They've hyped it up so much that it will never be able to sound as good as they are expecting or hoped it would. If it does and they actually do like it I will be very surprised to say the least.
We really have nothing to really judge Eros on except for maybe a song they played live once or twice and maybe a few little snippets from YouTube.
I would be happy to just hear it as is or even if they choose to go back and finish what wasn't done.
Now this is just my opinion as well, but I feel like when I band goes and starts working on new music, they play and make music THEY like. They just have hopes that the fans will like it as much as they do.
Quote from: endstand on May 11, 2013, 02:04 PM
Quote from: MaximumPezcore on May 11, 2013, 06:13 AM
I'd rather Chino finish his vocals on the album. Given Chi's death, I feel like he's going to let it all out and have this be the most emotionally angry and depressing Deftones album yet, which will undoubtedly turn out to be completely fucking beautiful in an emotionally fucked kind of way.
Also, I'm new here. Hi guys!
I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like Chino doesn't feel very touched by Chi's death; I don't know about the others. There were few interviews where Chino, asked about Chi's condition, sounded very lame. He mentioned that he hadn't visit Chi for one year. If they were so great friends, how can you explain that Chino is not visiting Chi? Band often mention that they're like a family, but that just doesn't mix good with not visiting a friend who is in need of support. How can you not find enough time during whole year to visit a friend?
And there was this video interview posted somewhere where band is asked about Eros, and Steph pointed out in not friendly manner that Chino is the one responsible for all the situation with Eros.
I'm 100% positive that you have no clue what you are talking about.
Quote from: Bza々 on May 11, 2013, 10:38 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on May 11, 2013, 04:24 AM
I think Chino needs to get on those vocals pretty quick, it may seem stupid but at the moment they're pretty down and twisted emotionally like when Eros was initially made so in order for him to sort of make that music again he needs to be in that state of mind could also be a therapeutic way of dealing with Chi's death.
Fuck that. He isn't the same person he was then. He'll just fuck it up with this new style of his. Release it as is.
this times 1,000,000. release it without ANYTHING else done to it. if half the tracks are instrumental, oh well.
http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/05/12/deftones-planning-to-release-never-before-heard-eros-album/
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http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/05/12/deftones-planning-to-release-never-before-heard-eros-album/ (http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/05/12/deftones-planning-to-release-never-before-heard-eros-album/)
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Thank you :)
Everyone seems to think chino saying "now might be the right time" means its coming out soon. You still gotta take into account the label and management and promotion. It's not as easy as just releasing it. Also they have to decide if they wanna finish it. It'll still be a while if we ever hear it. Stop busting a nut over nothing.
Quote from: deffur on May 12, 2013, 04:45 PM
http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/05/12/deftones-planning-to-release-never-before-heard-eros-album/ (http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/05/12/deftones-planning-to-release-never-before-heard-eros-album/)
thanks man
I don't think anyone's really going to be reviewing the album too seriously if it does get released. It might not even be finished, vocally anyway, when they release it. So for anyone to get bummed about how it's not as good as they expect would be weird. It's more of a thing for Chi at this point than about the music itself, it's just going to be a snapshot of that period. Chino even said it's not the best stuff I believe, but it's whatever. Who cares??
In other words, I expect this to be like the SNW demos, as far as the hype about it and how serious anyone takes it, but it will be officially released and more polished up than the demos obviously...
you all are wrong and a bunch of bummers
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 12, 2013, 07:16 PM
Everyone seems to think chino saying "now might be the right time" means its coming out soon. You still gotta take into account the label and management and promotion. It's not as easy as just releasing it. Also they have to decide if they wanna finish it. It'll still be a while if we ever hear it. Stop busting a nut over nothing.
To have something to talk about?
Also if you actually look at the comments no one is expecting it soon it's just the fact Chino hasn't decided to permanently shelve it now that Chi's gone.
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 13, 2013, 04:14 AM
you all are wrong and a bunch of bummers
please leave
Quote from: ignore the fashion on May 11, 2013, 11:07 PM
Just my opinion on this new information regarding Eros.
I don't mean to be an asshole or anything just stating my opinion here.
I think SO many people here on this board will probably end up totally bashing Eros, if it is released, simply because it isn't ever going to be able to live up to the way THEY expect it to sound. They've hyped it up so much that it will never be able to sound as good as they are expecting or hoped it would. If it does and they actually do like it I will be very surprised to say the least.
We really have nothing to really judge Eros on except for maybe a song they played live once or twice and maybe a few little snippets from YouTube.
I would be happy to just hear it as is or even if they choose to go back and finish what wasn't done.
Now this is just my opinion as well, but I feel like when I band goes and starts working on new music, they play and make music THEY like. They just have hopes that the fans will like it as much as they do.
I agree, I think its cool they are going to release it and I look forward to it but I have a feeling its not gonna be as great as a lot of people think on here
lyrically its gonna be interesting, if Chino is going to have to write new lyrics for it or if they were completed (the vocals) already
I wonder how long its gonna take for them to get it out and if they will treat like a normal album promo and a tour or if they will just release it as a tribute to Chi
Quote from: Bifrost on May 13, 2013, 02:57 PM
Quote from: ignore the fashion on May 11, 2013, 11:07 PM
Just my opinion on this new information regarding Eros.
I don't mean to be an asshole or anything just stating my opinion here.
I think SO many people here on this board will probably end up totally bashing Eros, if it is released, simply because it isn't ever going to be able to live up to the way THEY expect it to sound. They've hyped it up so much that it will never be able to sound as good as they are expecting or hoped it would. If it does and they actually do like it I will be very surprised to say the least.
We really have nothing to really judge Eros on except for maybe a song they played live once or twice and maybe a few little snippets from YouTube.
I would be happy to just hear it as is or even if they choose to go back and finish what wasn't done.
Now this is just my opinion as well, but I feel like when I band goes and starts working on new music, they play and make music THEY like. They just have hopes that the fans will like it as much as they do.
I agree, I think its cool they are going to release it and I look forward to it but I have a feeling its not gonna be as great as a lot of people think on here
lyrically its gonna be interesting, if Chino is going to have to write new lyrics for it or if they were completed (the vocals) already
I wonder how long its gonna take for them to get it out and if they will treat like a normal album promo and a tour or if they will just release it as a tribute to Chi
I highly doubt they will tour in support of the release, and honestly I wouldn't expect them to. I mean, they abandoned the album to do
Diamond Eyes for a reason. It's pretty obvious that the whole era is a sore subject for them. I suppose we should feel fortunate that they are even considering a release at all.
With that said, I am super pumped about hearing it.
Quote from: Bifrost on May 13, 2013, 02:57 PM
Quote from: ignore the fashion on May 11, 2013, 11:07 PM
Just my opinion on this new information regarding Eros.
I don't mean to be an asshole or anything just stating my opinion here.
I think SO many people here on this board will probably end up totally bashing Eros, if it is released, simply because it isn't ever going to be able to live up to the way THEY expect it to sound. They've hyped it up so much that it will never be able to sound as good as they are expecting or hoped it would. If it does and they actually do like it I will be very surprised to say the least.
We really have nothing to really judge Eros on except for maybe a song they played live once or twice and maybe a few little snippets from YouTube.
I would be happy to just hear it as is or even if they choose to go back and finish what wasn't done.
Now this is just my opinion as well, but I feel like when I band goes and starts working on new music, they play and make music THEY like. They just have hopes that the fans will like it as much as they do.
I agree, I think its cool they are going to release it and I look forward to it but I have a feeling its not gonna be as great as a lot of people think on here
lyrically its gonna be interesting, if Chino is going to have to write new lyrics for it or if they were completed (the vocals) already
I wonder how long its gonna take for them to get it out and if they will treat like a normal album promo and a tour or if they will just release it as a tribute to Chi
I hope they're not going to rewrite lyrics, because new lyrics may have that happy-go-lucky feel.
I hope they wouldnt re-write any lyrics too but I am not sure Chino ever finished the vox for eros so he may need to write some
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT Understand that know that......Big ROY out
Quote from: RoyBiggins on May 13, 2013, 07:47 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT Understand that know that......Big ROY out
Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 13, 2013, 11:31 PM
Quote from: RoyBiggins on May 13, 2013, 07:47 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT Understand that know that......Big ROY out
Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.
Man, you're a downer.
anyway.
I just read that touching article of Chi's passing and Chino saying the album just wasn't good. I can dig that, but its ok, they haven't put out anything not good before, so they deserve a mistake. I almost think they should just take all the good out of it and make something new.
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 05:16 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 13, 2013, 11:31 PM
Quote from: RoyBiggins on May 13, 2013, 07:47 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT Understand that know that......Big ROY out
Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.
Man, you're a downer.
anyway.
I just read that touching article of Chi's passing and Chino saying the album just wasn't good. I can dig that, but its ok, they haven't put out anything not good before, so they deserve a mistake. I almost think they should just take all the good out of it and make something new.
no
I wouldn't want anything new or re-thought....i like Chino's lyrics and mood when he was fat
Quote from: only pieces remain on May 14, 2013, 07:42 PM
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 05:16 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 13, 2013, 11:31 PM
Quote from: RoyBiggins on May 13, 2013, 07:47 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT Understand that know that......Big ROY out
Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.
Man, you're a downer.
anyway.
I just read that touching article of Chi's passing and Chino saying the album just wasn't good. I can dig that, but its ok, they haven't put out anything not good before, so they deserve a mistake. I almost think they should just take all the good out of it and make something new.
no
Add a little intellect.
Quote from: DJR on May 14, 2013, 08:26 PM
I wouldn't want anything new or re-thought....i like Chino's lyrics and mood when he was fat
When, Saturday Night Wrist era?
Just like that article said, SNW was the worst album, it was for me 2. It was dark and cold, which seems it would have done well with the opinions I see on this board. I still like all the songs, except for pink cellphone, I thought it was pretentious.
And you don't want anything new? ya I almost wonder how any original band survives because that sentiment seems to reign supreme. Even when I look at very popular bands like Metallica, I go wow, The amount of people that actually love there music and can sit through the Entire Justice album and enjoy every lick has still got to be very, very few. Most likely musicians themselves.
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 08:33 PM
Quote from: only pieces remain on May 14, 2013, 07:42 PM
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 05:16 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 13, 2013, 11:31 PM
Quote from: RoyBiggins on May 13, 2013, 07:47 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT Understand that know that......Big ROY out
Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.
Man, you're a downer.
anyway.
I just read that touching article of Chi's passing and Chino saying the album just wasn't good. I can dig that, but its ok, they haven't put out anything not good before, so they deserve a mistake. I almost think they should just take all the good out of it and make something new.
no
Add a little intellect.
Quote from: DJR on May 14, 2013, 08:26 PM
I wouldn't want anything new or re-thought....i like Chino's lyrics and mood when he was fat
When, Saturday Night Wrist era?
Just like that article said, SNW was the worst album, it was for me 2. It was dark and cold, which seems it would have done well with the opinions I see on this board. I still like all the songs, except for pink cellphone, I thought it was pretentious.
And you don't want anything new? ya I almost wonder how any original band survives because that sentiment seems to reign supreme. Even when I look at very popular bands like Metallica, I go wow, The amount of people that actually love there music and can sit through the Entire Justice album and enjoy every lick has still got to be very, very few. Most likely musicians themselves.
No dude, i meant i wouldn't want a new EROS...im all for new stuff! KNY was a masterpiece. I just wouldnt want bits of EROS put onto something new....
Ya respect.
Do you guys really think Diamond Eyes and KNY contain completely original songs? Being a musician myself, in a few bands with rotating members, I can whole-heartedly say that partially hashed-out ideas from previous incarnations often times find their way into new material--even if it's only a lick or segue or whatever. I find it very hard to believe the boys left this era completely untouched and didn't draw from at least a few ideas to record songs for DE and KNY....and maybe this is part of the reason they are having trouble finding the best way to release it.
Just a thought.
Yes that's the point, every song is connected, the more connected they are, the more better it goes together and comes out in the end.
There's an old saying. / Every songwriter only has one song to write.
I don't know but I think if they did use some stuff it wouldn't be a direct copy I think they would use it as inspiration, for instance I doubt they would use a complete riff instead they would use a riff that uses the same notes rearranged or something , Also if the guys were as energetic and creative as they say they were when they went back to work with Sergio I can believe they wouldn't have needed to use any Eros stuff given that experienced musicians like them would be capable of writing all new stuff in that time. I know I haven't heard Eros but from what I heard them say about it I don't think much of would be transferable to DE and KNY, because the new stuff is alot more positive where as Eros is said to be pretty dark and dirty.
Quote from: DJR on May 14, 2013, 08:26 PM
I wouldn't want anything new or re-thought....i like Chino's lyrics and mood when he was fat
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 08:33 PM
Quote from: only pieces remain on May 14, 2013, 07:42 PM
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 05:16 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 13, 2013, 11:31 PM
Quote from: RoyBiggins on May 13, 2013, 07:47 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT Understand that know that......Big ROY out
Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.
Man, you're a downer.
anyway.
I just read that touching article of Chi's passing and Chino saying the album just wasn't good. I can dig that, but its ok, they haven't put out anything not good before, so they deserve a mistake. I almost think they should just take all the good out of it and make something new.
no
Add a little intellect.
Quote from: DJR on May 14, 2013, 08:26 PM
I wouldn't want anything new or re-thought....i like Chino's lyrics and mood when he was fat
When, Saturday Night Wrist era?
Just like that article said, SNW was the worst album, it was for me 2. It was dark and cold, which seems it would have done well with the opinions I see on this board. I still like all the songs, except for pink cellphone, I thought it was pretentious.
And you don't want anything new? ya I almost wonder how any original band survives because that sentiment seems to reign supreme. Even when I look at very popular bands like Metallica, I go wow, The amount of people that actually love there music and can sit through the Entire Justice album and enjoy every lick has still got to be very, very few. Most likely musicians themselves.
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Quote from: Romain on May 17, 2013, 11:54 AM
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 08:33 PM
Quote from: only pieces remain on May 14, 2013, 07:42 PM
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 14, 2013, 05:16 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 13, 2013, 11:31 PM
Quote from: RoyBiggins on May 13, 2013, 07:47 PM
The main man Big ROY a.k.a Chef Royardee a.k.a 12 Inch ROY is pumped to hear anything from this album. I have faith that Deftones will make the right decision in regards to how Eros is presented. They haven't steered The Last Roy in the wrong direction too often, except for the chorus to Cherry Waves, shit sucks. What they do is out of our hands and what they do is usually pretty fuckin sweet. UTKT Understand that know that......Big ROY out
Cherry Waves chorus rules. Now the Diamond Eyes chorus... that shit sucks. Also Swerve City.
Man, you're a downer.
anyway.
I just read that touching article of Chi's passing and Chino saying the album just wasn't good. I can dig that, but its ok, they haven't put out anything not good before, so they deserve a mistake. I almost think they should just take all the good out of it and make something new.
no
Add a little intellect.
Quote from: DJR on May 14, 2013, 08:26 PM
I wouldn't want anything new or re-thought....i like Chino's lyrics and mood when he was fat
When, Saturday Night Wrist era?
Just like that article said, SNW was the worst album, it was for me 2. It was dark and cold, which seems it would have done well with the opinions I see on this board. I still like all the songs, except for pink cellphone, I thought it was pretentious.
And you don't want anything new? ya I almost wonder how any original band survives because that sentiment seems to reign supreme. Even when I look at very popular bands like Metallica, I go wow, The amount of people that actually love there music and can sit through the Entire Justice album and enjoy every lick has still got to be very, very few. Most likely musicians themselves.
(http://1000awesomethings.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/crying_baby.jpg)
is that what you do at 6:00 AM. Have a cup of coffee nigga.
It's 9pm in Belgium, nigga.
john claude van damme said ya'll had some of the best joe down there.
Stop arguing guys, talk about EROS now instead of whining.....
Chino talks a little about Eros in this interview, don't know if it has been posted yet:
Interview: Deftones Talk Oz Tour, New Lineups And Releasing 'Eros' -- "Hopefully Sooner Than Never" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZDW7evWjbw#ws)
Quote from: Capt Snow on May 20, 2013, 10:12 AM
Chino talks a little about Eros in this interview, don't know if it has been posted yet:
Interview: Deftones Talk Oz Tour, New Lineups And Releasing 'Eros' -- "Hopefully Sooner Than Never" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZDW7evWjbw#ws)
Cool interview, thanks.
I'm guessing a half year or so after they're done touring KNY ,we will hear of an official release.
I think they will release it since we won't get any new music from them for 2 to 3 years once they're finally done with this tour.
So who knows? If it does get released, I don't see it happening for quite a while.
it would be cool if they just released their next album and just included all of eros, unfinished on the same album, kind of like a part II. double album would be the best (new album + untouched eros), but thats wishful thinking. just like some bonus content or something. i just hope they dont fukk around with it too much and leave it as it is, or just release it like we got the snw demos, that would be the best
Yeah I see the merit of leaving it untouched but at the same time when I listen to those SNW demos and even the team sleep demos I can't help but wish Chino had laid vocals on them, Even though I do like alot of instrumental music with Deftones stuff the instruments are real rhythm and groove based because they are designed to lay down the foundations for the vocals as opposed to bands like Explosions in the Sky who make the instruments the centre piece and use less repetition, What I'm getting at is I don't think the unfinished songs will be busy enough to be good stand alone instrumentals, you can tell the difference between a song that was intended to be an instrumental and a backing track.
Also I think releasing them as incomplete demos would reduce the repeat listens, to me instrumental demo's are more of a curiosity thing I prefer complete songs, Like I never sit and listen to all the SNW demos but I will put on the complete cd's and do a listen through. Plus there no reason why they couldn't do both they could put out a finished album but then also make the demos available through download or something. Would be awesome if they releaased split tracks like Crosses did but that will never happen lol
Good point about the SNW demos . I listen to them every once in awhile and wonder how they would sound with vocals. Some of those demos seemed really promising once polished/ cut and fit for vocals. I would be happy to hear Eros even if only half of the vocals for the album is done ( I really would like them just to keep what was done at that time and not add anything) to really just leave what was finished that way.
I wouldn't mind any undone instrumentals from Eros at all. When this board got the SNW and DE instrumentals it was fucking awesome. You get to hear a little bit of the whole band aside from the 50/50 it seems with vocals. I loved it.
Bad news... http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/22/deftones-might-not-release-eros-anytime-soon-after-all/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/22/deftones-might-not-release-eros-anytime-soon-after-all/)
Quote from: MaximumPezcore on May 22, 2013, 08:41 PM
Bad news... http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/22/deftones-might-not-release-eros-anytime-soon-after-all/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/22/deftones-might-not-release-eros-anytime-soon-after-all/)
see the interview at the top of this page. That's where those quotes are listed from.
Also that's exactly what I was saying when everyone started overreacting and losing their minds. The title of that original video from the Golden Gods red carpet instantly pissed me off because it was worded as if the album was finally actually coming out and I knew everyone would overreact exactly how they have. It's closer than before and the idea is at least being entertained but Chino wants to do another record first so it'll still be a while.
Quote from: sing blue silver on May 22, 2013, 09:03 PM
Quote from: MaximumPezcore on May 22, 2013, 08:41 PM
Bad news... http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/22/deftones-might-not-release-eros-anytime-soon-after-all/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/22/deftones-might-not-release-eros-anytime-soon-after-all/)
see the interview at the top of this page. That's where those quotes are listed from.
Also that's exactly what I was saying when everyone started overreacting and losing their minds. The title of that original video from the Golden Gods red carpet instantly pissed me off because it was worded as if the album was finally actually coming out and I knew everyone would overreact exactly how they have. It's closer than before and the idea is at least being entertained but Chino wants to do another record first so it'll still be a while.
Shit dude, sorry about that, hardly got any sleep in the past few days..
It's only been a little over a month since Chi passed away, so I wouldn't expect them to jump all over putting it out right away. As long as it comes out eventually.
I don't think it would be a good idea to release it WITH the upcoming album. Because if they did, it surely would only be a "bonus" instead of a stand-alone thing. It would always be linked to whatever they are releasing as their eighth record and as of now there are no two Deftones albums that would really fit together.
However, if they really release it for its own sake, they have to complete it. Just in terms of fitting the standards in sound quality and equality to make it feel a whole.
When it comes to a release date I think a year from now on could possibly fit.
Quote from: Hank on May 22, 2013, 06:40 AM
I wouldn't mind any undone instrumentals from Eros at all. When this board got the SNW and DE instrumentals it was fucking awesome. You get to hear a little bit of the whole band aside from the 50/50 it seems with vocals. I loved it.
Wait... There are Diamond Eyes instrumentals? I have to have this!
Quote from: truthaddict on May 23, 2013, 02:47 AM
Quote from: Hank on May 22, 2013, 06:40 AM
I wouldn't mind any undone instrumentals from Eros at all. When this board got the SNW and DE instrumentals it was fucking awesome. You get to hear a little bit of the whole band aside from the 50/50 it seems with vocals. I loved it.
Wait... There are Diamond Eyes instrumentals? I have to have this!
DEFTONES - Diamond Eyes [Official Instrumental] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zajndl0RaMI#ws)
Wow!
It's a shame they don't release an instrumental version on CD. I want this on my IPOD really bad now.
Check out your inbox, man
Quote from: RxHEAD on May 23, 2013, 12:28 AM
I don't think it would be a good idea to release it WITH the upcoming album. Because if they did, it surely would only be a "bonus" instead of a stand-alone thing. It would always be linked to whatever they are releasing as their eighth record and as of now there are no two Deftones albums that would really fit together.
However, if they really release it for its own sake, they have to complete it. Just in terms of fitting the standards in sound quality and equality to make it feel a whole.
When it comes to a release date I think a year from now on could possibly fit.
i think if they release it with an album or as some sort of bonus it would be the only way we are gonna get it. i dont think the record company would invest any money into releasing a unfinished album which (at least i think) would be so different from DE and KNY. imo they should just leak it and move on. if chino starts fukkin around on it with his new style and sergio gets in on it it just wont be the EROS we are all waiting for. besides, i think only the die hard fans like us really care or even heard about eros.
Quote from: VictorPL on May 23, 2013, 07:22 AM
Quote from: RxHEAD on May 23, 2013, 12:28 AM
I don't think it would be a good idea to release it WITH the upcoming album. Because if they did, it surely would only be a "bonus" instead of a stand-alone thing. It would always be linked to whatever they are releasing as their eighth record and as of now there are no two Deftones albums that would really fit together.
However, if they really release it for its own sake, they have to complete it. Just in terms of fitting the standards in sound quality and equality to make it feel a whole.
When it comes to a release date I think a year from now on could possibly fit.
i think if they release it with an album or as some sort of bonus it would be the only way we are gonna get it. i dont think the record company would invest any money into releasing a unfinished album which (at least i think) would be so different from DE and KNY. imo they should just leak it and move on. if chino starts fukkin around on it with his new style and sergio gets in on it it just wont be the EROS we are all waiting for. besides, i think only the die hard fans like us really care or even heard about eros.
Nobody but Chino would have to touch it, half songs are completely done and the other half just need Chino's vocals, I think they even have lyrics already aswell, I trust Chino can pull it off I don't think here's stuck in the new style he seems to be able to revert back fine, I have no worries about him singing too softly or anything especially after seeing the recent live performances of songs like bloody cape he's been killing it like he did when it was new.
But that is exactly what I was talking about. If Chino "changes" it (in order to complete it) he has to record all the vocals over again in my opinion. If half was new and the other half 2008 style you would always feel that there are two parts, no matter how well Chino will be able to imitate himself.
I'd have no problem with them recording new vocals on the as-yet unfinished tracks. JUST as long as they got Terry Date back in the studio to produce them.
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on May 23, 2013, 10:38 PM
I'd have no problem with them recording new vocals on the as-yet unfinished tracks. JUST as long as they got Terry Date back in the studio to produce them.
I think I'd be okay with this as well.
Quote from: nicklav on May 23, 2013, 11:47 PM
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on May 23, 2013, 10:38 PM
I'd have no problem with them recording new vocals on the as-yet unfinished tracks. JUST as long as they got Terry Date back in the studio to produce them.
I think I'd be okay with this as well.
that would be right man!
http://splintr.com/thedailysplintr/page/214/EXCLUSIVE-INTERVIEW-Chino-Moreno-Talks-To-Francis-Brew (http://splintr.com/thedailysplintr/page/214/EXCLUSIVE-INTERVIEW-Chino-Moreno-Talks-To-Francis-Brew)
Quote from: play on May 29, 2013, 05:53 AM
http://splintr.com/thedailysplintr/page/214/EXCLUSIVE-INTERVIEW-Chino-Moreno-Talks-To-Francis-Brew (http://splintr.com/thedailysplintr/page/214/EXCLUSIVE-INTERVIEW-Chino-Moreno-Talks-To-Francis-Brew)
Lmao this foo called "Palms" "Lands" xD
so chino thinks theres 6 songs done on eros.
Quote from: play on May 29, 2013, 11:30 AM
so chino thinks theres 6 songs done on eros.
Yeah, but by finished I think he means "with vocals." From my understanding, instrumental tracks have been completed in their entirety. So 6 songs complete, to me, means 75% finished.
There's usually 11 songs on a Deftones album, so that probably means he has to record vocals for 5 songs.
why do people want a bunch of tracks on an album? I want less, I mean 8-12 is perfect, anymore after that give me 2 albums. theres some punk and rap or like the beatles or something that can pull out 14 or so, but fuck that, just take me on a nice 30- 45 min journey and I'll give you my 10 bucks.
The best albums are short and sweet, I say. I just kinda lose interest when it goes over the hour mark. Plenty of fat to trim on certain long albums...
Yeah I agree general rule is keep it short but I also think a long album when done properly can be truly epic, The Wall by Pink Floyd comes to mind as an example, the way it uses the extra duration to tell a detailed story is great, I just hate faux long albums,you know those albums that claim to have like 15 songs but only has about 9-10 songs of any substance after ignoring interludes and filler tracks.
While I agree with most of what is being said regarding long v. short albums, I do think some albums contain necessary filler material to create the musical environment and complete the "story" or theme the artist had in mind--not necessarily tracks that are meant to be listened to on their own, but in context with a larger picture. A few albums that come to my mind are Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness by the Smashing Pumpkins and The Fragile by Nine Inch Nails. There are certainly filler tracks on each, for sure, but I feel they are strategically placed in the sequence for a reason.
Some albums are so strong that passing the 1 hour mark isn't a problem at all. Take Superunknown by Soundgarden. It's a remarkable album (to say the least) and it clocks in on 1 hour and 15 minutes, with 15 songs (16 if you count the european version)
With that said i think Deftones would handle a longer album with no problems, they've always been solid songwriters.
Eros will probably be the last album the Deftones will release, better not fuck that up with a record that's too long or too short for that matter.
funny thing is, each deftones album pushes 40-50 mins anyway. I would get bored with any band past that. I really get tired of all those mellon collie and the wall albums. those are ok and worthy but I just want 10 tracks of perfection, enough with a pretty package and too much ambition, just stick to the roots.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Jun 05, 2013, 07:51 PM
Eros will probably be the last album the Deftones will release, better not fuck that up with a record that's too long or too short for that matter.
why do people say stuff like that? no band has ever been together longer and more continuous than the deftones, that's whats funny, theyre never going to quit, what reason would you even have to think that? history says no, not a chance.
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on Jun 06, 2013, 02:41 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Jun 05, 2013, 07:51 PM
Eros will probably be the last album the Deftones will release, better not fuck that up with a record that's too long or too short for that matter.
why do people say stuff like that? no band has ever been together longer and more continuous than the deftones, that's whats funny, theyre never going to quit, what reason would you even have to think that? history says no, not a chance.
Chino did say in an interview somewhere that after Diamond Eyes he would like to make
a couple more albums. And he also said that he would release a completely new album as a successor to KNY and afterwards possibly release Eros.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Jun 06, 2013, 02:52 PM
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on Jun 06, 2013, 02:41 PM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Jun 05, 2013, 07:51 PM
Eros will probably be the last album the Deftones will release, better not fuck that up with a record that's too long or too short for that matter.
why do people say stuff like that? no band has ever been together longer and more continuous than the deftones, that's whats funny, theyre never going to quit, what reason would you even have to think that? history says no, not a chance.
Chino did say in an interview somewhere that after Diamond Eyes he would like to make a couple more albums. And he also said that he would release a completely new album as a successor to KNY and afterwards possibly release Eros.
who cares what he said. they rely off of vibes, if they planned it out they would be like every other band.
QuoteWhile we're on the subject of Deftones, your bassist Chi Cheng passed away in April after spending about five years in a coma. Do you have plans to release Eros, the final album he recorded with you but shelved in 2008?
I get asked about that record a lot. For a while, I was giving the same answer, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no." After Chi's passing, I went back and listened to some of the record and it was a pretty intense experience to say the least. I think it should be released, but we don't have any definite plans. There's some work to do on it. Deftones have been moving forward in a strong, positive motion, so for us to stop and reflect on something five years ago, I don't know if we're ready for that. I'm not sure that's where we want to put our energy. It is a special thing for us: it's the last thing Chi played on. It will see the light of day. I just don't know when.
http://www.mtvhive.com/2013/06/24/chino-moreno-deftones (http://www.mtvhive.com/2013/06/24/chino-moreno-deftones)
I think it will still be a few years before we hear it, if we ever do.
I've been coming to that conclusion two that it will be a little while, and that's perfectly fine. With Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan, they've hit a beautiful prowess and there's no question their truly best album is next, so forget about eros, that'll be a treat when the day comes, a very special gem, I would say anywhere between a year or three before eros, no longer than that, what would be the point? I'm just excited for the next album.
There were a few songs I found on a weird tentative name image. A song named "Raven" was on there too
Quote from: RichardMoreno23 on Jul 07, 2013, 12:36 AM
There were a few songs I found on a weird tentative name image. A song named "Raven" was on there too
upload or bullshit
He's refering to this...
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/936619_668499636510537_428579091_n.jpg)
It's a fan made concept art. I can't seem to find the site it was on or any better images anymore but Raven was one of the made up names. It was just something a guy did for fun. Nowhere near official.
This is all we have for tentative title info besides Chi mentioning "Trempest" in an interview.
(http://deftones-archives.com/engine9/images/divers/titres_travail_Eros.jpg)
my bad i thought he had the original copy. lol its impossible
According to Wikipedia, there's also a song called Dallas. When they do release Eros, I really hope they keep the stripper names as song titles thing. There's something just so weird and great about it.
http://www.alternativenation.net/?p=30601 (http://www.alternativenation.net/?p=30601)
From Abe: On releasing the Eros album: Yea, there's so much talk of it. People have many enduring opinions of it. The honest truth is the record wasn't done. People assume that it's all just sitting there, ready to go. It wasn't ... it was close to being finished. And, of course, it's dear to us and it will be very dear to people who love Chi, man.
The record wasn't finished, it needs work. It's just not that simple. Also at the same time ... in that certain period, we sort of ... moved on.
Bump.
Already posted on Pictures, Interviews, magazines... but what the hell:
Chino talks about Eros:
QuoteIt's not on the schedule. Now that there's been some sort of closure with Chi, it makes a little more sense to put it out now than before, so it'll probably be sooner than never. Before, people figured it would never be released. At the same time, there are no plans right now to release it. Deftones are still trudging forward, and I don't think we're completely ready to reflect on that time in our career. It's a pretty heavy thing. If you listen to the record—which I did recently—it really is a snapshot in our lives, and those were some of the last moments I spent with Chi. His accident occurred right in the middle of us finishing up writing that record. It's a tough thing to reflect on. Listening to it the other day brought back a lot of intense feelings, which I don't think as a band we want to present to anybody just yet. I still think we're dealing with it internally. One day I think it will see the light of day, and probably sooner than never.
Edit: Forgot the source (http://noisey.vice.com/blog/chino-moreno-on-palms-unreleased-deftones-material-and-going-into-the-closet)
I love that quote. It doesn't feel like bullshit, nonsense like he usually does.
A lot of people seem to be freaking out about this being a sign of an impending Eros release. Obviously not holding my breath. Does anyone know any more about it? Is it just an album-shaped photo? Lol.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152106681037491&set=a.63052707490.68559.5544067490&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152106681037491&set=a.63052707490.68559.5544067490&type=1)
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Dec 07, 2013, 11:05 PM
A lot of people seem to be freaking out about this being a sign of an impending Eros release. Obviously not holding my breath. Does anyone know any more about it? Is it just an album-shaped photo? Lol.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152106681037491&set=a.63052707490.68559.5544067490&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152106681037491&set=a.63052707490.68559.5544067490&type=1)
Much respect,
-Matt
Probably nothing but Live Vol. 2 would be more likely than Eros.
Saw this earlier also. Intriguing, but the thought that it had anything to do with Eros didn't occur to me whatsoever. In fact, I didn't see it as a sign of any impending new release, but I guess the Live Volume 2 would be a possibility, I mean, I guess the images are somewhat similar.
They posted another one. Looks nice for a cover if anything.
I doubt it has anything to do with Eros.
you guys are so fucking stupid sometimes.
Quote from: Danny Keyes on Dec 09, 2013, 01:38 AM
you guys are so fucking stupid sometimes.
lol why?
if there's actually news about eros than cool. but I could really care less about it. it was rumored at the only period of my life I didn't even care about the band or guitar oriented music. Be excited with the direction of the new stuff and where that goes or put the old records on repeat.
It's basically guaranteed that everyone wanting to hear Eros wants to hear it because it's the last album Chi ever worked on, and ever will. I think since Chi died, that desire to hear the music has increased, because while he was alive, there was always a possibility among some people, no matter how faint, that Chi could recover enough to make music again, even if not with while the band was active. I mean, for myself, I want to hear all music that Deftones have yet to release, but I also want to hear Eros for the reasons stated. That plus they were always saying it's a weird, experimental record. I just hope that no-one's expectations are so high that they won't enjoy it for what it would've been had it been released as intended.
I'm excited for it not because i think it's going to be their best album for me it's as you said the experimental side of Eros, it's just pure curiosity, as a fan of the band it's really exciting prospect to see what they came up with when they just tried everything, also the little snippets we've heard really appeal to me.
Here's a question: would you guys want it released exactly as it is, or completed first? I mean, I can't really see anyone wanting to see it completed first, but you never know.
I think for a band to complete it years after creating it, it'd feel like a very disjointed album that doesn't go together at all. Chino's lyric-writing and voice are different now to then, and the band members are in different points of their life, which goes very against what they've said about wanting albums to be a snapshot of that moment of their lives. As much as I'd love a finished, complete album, I'd rather have the unfinished album to give a greater idea as to the music they wanted to make at that time, than have a finished album that sounds perhaps a lot different to how it was intended.
I'd want it finished, from what i've seen the writings all done it's just a matter of Chino recording on a few songs, i want to see the album how they intended it to be not an incomplete series of recordings especially since it's so close to finished, plus Deftones songs don't have that same quality that bands like Mogwai have where the songs sound perfect instrumentally, Deftones songs usually sound like they're kind of empty without vocals and inevitably I would start wondering what Chino would of sounded like on the songs, just like the with the Ezrin demos.
Oh, I thought only some of the writing was done? I mean, I agree that I'd want to hear it as it was fully intended, but that's also a good argument against it being finished, in the sense that it wouldn't be quite the same with Chino approaching something he wrote years ago.
I kind of worry about that aswell but I think he'll still able to put himself into the darker frame of mind, I'm thinking once he goes back and starts listening to it as it's a very dark album I think the songs will have the effect of putting him back in that moment of time like he says some self titled songs like battle axe do,also with Chi's passing and it being the last thing he worked on I think those emotions are going to flood in because even though he's been gone a while now working on Eros brings back all the memories and will create a feeling of finality over Chi's death as they will be doing the thing they said they wouldn't do until Chi was better and there's no real way of distracting yourself from those feelings either when you have to spend hours listening to him. Also I think some of the darker/bitter side of their feelings over Chi will surface, at the moment there's that slight relief he's not in pain anymore and they seem to be looking at the positives but maybe with going back to the Eros stuff frustation might come up and they might get those bitter feelings you get with deaths. they might start getting a bit pissed off that it had to happen to them and start thinking about how unfair everything that happened to Chi was, that sort of thing can put you in a real dark and twisted place.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Dec 09, 2013, 07:21 AM
It's basically guaranteed that everyone wanting to hear Eros wants to hear it because it's the last album Chi ever worked on, and ever will. I think since Chi died, that desire to hear the music has increased, because while he was alive, there was always a possibility among some people, no matter how faint, that Chi could recover enough to make music again, even if not with while the band was active. I mean, for myself, I want to hear all music that Deftones have yet to release, but I also want to hear Eros for the reasons stated. That plus they were always saying it's a weird, experimental record. I just hope that no-one's expectations are so high that they won't enjoy it for what it would've been had it been released as intended.
I want Eros because they said it is/was a weird unconventional album... I mean the first time I listened to Melanie I was like "What the hell is this chaotic rhythm? is Chino using Auto-tune or something?... then after a few listens I started to enjoy that song and it ended up being one of my favorite Deftones' songs.
I want to hear how far they went on that record. In my mind Rosemary is a sneakpeak of Eros.
I came across a set of images on Facebook. What they are I'm not sure of (maybe I missed this in the previous pages of the thread cause I'm too lazy to go through them) but I find it quite interesting. Does anyone here have these?
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1467463_10103964617945790_412715043_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q77/s720x720/1476586_10153536512795654_959999957_n.jpg
I think they're just some sort of eros promotional thing from that era like a little poster
I remember those. I could be mistaken, but I thought they were the early promos for SNW?
Yeah I think you're right I just seeing remember people posting those saying it was from some album promo thing, i think these were from like 2004/5 timeframe and I beleive they were lik a teaser posters for SNW
They were from 2004 (I believe the tour ending in CT)....for the album that would eventually become SNW.
I have postcards with similar designs, one says something about 2005 on the back and the other one says something about 2006. I have posted images of them before.
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/080/a/e/jesus_loves_you__back__by_sd_cesar-d5ysl7p.jpg)
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/079/8/b/deftones_tour_postcard_by_sd_cesar-d5yqq86.jpg)
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/079/a/d/realize_what_you_re_dealing_with_by_sd_cesar-d5yqpzb.jpg)
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/079/2/b/searching_the_machine_might_reveal_what_you____by_sd_cesar-d5yqq4y.jpg)
The back side of one is just plain black and only says spring 2005 in the middle and deftones.com along the bottom.
If you look at the first image it says 2006, I got these all at the same show so I don't know why they would have 2 different time frames.
What are they?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deftones-Eros-Unreleased-Lost-Album-Promo-Poster-RARE-Diamond-Eyes-/261100898760 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deftones-Eros-Unreleased-Lost-Album-Promo-Poster-RARE-Diamond-Eyes-/261100898760)
that is eros promo
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
This song has so much balls.
Except that was a SNW outtake.
Quote from: pinata89 on Jan 02, 2014, 03:08 PM
Deftones - Finger Of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxwWG8-7sMI#ws)
This song has so much balls.
Yeah, as much as I would like to see a song like that on Eros I highly doubt it will happen. will probably just end up on a b-side record along with the rest of the snw demos and other "lost" songs like Bumble D if they ever release a second one. imo FOD was the best Deftones' song that never was.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 09, 2013, 12:39 PM
I kind of worry about that aswell but I think he'll still able to put himself into the darker frame of mind, I'm thinking once he goes back and starts listening to it as it's a very dark album I think the songs will have the effect of putting him back in that moment of time like he says some self titled songs like battle axe do,also with Chi's passing and it being the last thing he worked on I think those emotions are going to flood in because even though he's been gone a while now working on Eros brings back all the memories and will create a feeling of finality over Chi's death as they will be doing the thing they said they wouldn't do until Chi was better and there's no real way of distracting yourself from those feelings either when you have to spend hours listening to him. Also I think some of the darker/bitter side of their feelings over Chi will surface, at the moment there's that slight relief he's not in pain anymore and they seem to be looking at the positives but maybe with going back to the Eros stuff frustation might come up and they might get those bitter feelings you get with deaths. they might start getting a bit pissed off that it had to happen to them and start thinking about how unfair everything that happened to Chi was, that sort of thing can put you in a real dark and twisted place.
From an interview I saw and just research, they'll probably put out one album before they seriously consider finishing it. I'll look back through and see where exactly that claim came from. As of now, that puts the wait at about 3-4 years..
I almost want them to release it as is. Just a snapshot of where they were when it happened.
Quote from: nicklav on Jan 08, 2014, 09:35 PM
I almost want them to release it as is. Just a snapshot of where they were when it happened.
While I would like a fully-produced album, this might be the best way to present the material. Chino 2014 is not Chino circa 2008. I think he still could tackle the vox and make it sound pretty good with his current vocal range, but it wouldn't be genuine and true to the era that was
Eros.
I always avoid prophesying beforehand, but I don't think it would be the best way to present the material also I disagree that it wouldn't be genuine and true to the era that was eros, I think that deftonesNZ has put it in the best words.
Don't really like posting in this thread, but I was watching some full concerts on YouTube and this struck my attention.
DEFTONES - [MULTICAM] Espacio Broadway, Santiago, Chile 07 Nov. 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIBuhwh9P_I#ws)
Around 1:11:09 Stephen and Sergio start doing a super spacey and atmospheric encore intro. Listening it to it gives me an idea that Eros might have incorporated some of these sounds. I'll never know but it's still a really weird and awesome treat. Or I could be wrong and maybe they made this up recently or it was a KNY B-side or some stupid stuff. I really think they should put this shit on their next record.
Quote from: BunsRaisinsPies on Jan 18, 2014, 09:20 PM
Don't really like posting in this thread, but I was watching some full concerts on YouTube and this struck my attention.
DEFTONES - [MULTICAM] Espacio Broadway, Santiago, Chile 07 Nov. 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIBuhwh9P_I#ws)
Around 1:11:09 Stephen and Sergio start doing a super spacey and atmospheric encore intro. Listening it to it gives me an idea that Eros might have incorporated some of these sounds. I'll never know but it's still a really weird and awesome treat. Or I could be wrong and maybe they made this up recently or it was a KNY B-side or some stupid stuff. I really think they should put this shit on their next record.
damn, that gave me chills. that encore fits everything of what eros is; dark, unorthodox, almost bordered on downright evil. at the same time however, im not sure if the band would be willing to play any eros-inspired material. also kind of sounds like an early intro version to Leathers. idk, nevertheless that's p cool
Rip? Anyone?
Thanks
Quote from: Freedomsoldier17 on Jan 18, 2014, 11:23 PM
Quote from: BunsRaisinsPies on Jan 18, 2014, 09:20 PM
Don't really like posting in this thread, but I was watching some full concerts on YouTube and this struck my attention.
DEFTONES - [MULTICAM] Espacio Broadway, Santiago, Chile 07 Nov. 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIBuhwh9P_I#ws)
Around 1:11:09 Stephen and Sergio start doing a super spacey and atmospheric encore intro. Listening it to it gives me an idea that Eros might have incorporated some of these sounds. I'll never know but it's still a really weird and awesome treat. Or I could be wrong and maybe they made this up recently or it was a KNY B-side or some stupid stuff. I really think they should put this shit on their next record.
damn, that gave me chills. that encore fits everything of what eros is; dark, unorthodox, almost bordered on downright evil. at the same time however, im not sure if the band would be willing to play any eros-inspired material. also kind of sounds like an early intro version to Leathers. idk, nevertheless that's p cool
How can you say it fits everything of what Eros is? When we have never heard anything more than a few small clips and who knows how far along those were to being a completed product.
Sergio on Eros as of this week:
Are there any updates on releasing Eros, have you talked about that more recently?
No, we're not really people with much attention for the rearview mirror. It's more about what's next. Eros is what it is, and really the context made it mythical, in a sense. Which is what those sessions have become. But really where we are in our day-to-day is "okay what's next, how can we move forward, I've got this new clip man", and that stuff.
Seems like they're not considering it for the near future.
*edit* Source: http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/38128/Deftones-New-album-Big-Day-Out-and-Eros (http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/38128/Deftones-New-album-Big-Day-Out-and-Eros)
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: III on Jan 19, 2014, 04:14 AM
Rip? Anyone?
Thanks
http://www.deftones.cl/2013/05/multicam-sideshow-espacio-broadway/ (http://www.deftones.cl/2013/05/multicam-sideshow-espacio-broadway/)
Quote from: ignore the fashion on Jan 19, 2014, 05:25 AM
Quote from: Freedomsoldier17 on Jan 18, 2014, 11:23 PM
Quote from: BunsRaisinsPies on Jan 18, 2014, 09:20 PM
Don't really like posting in this thread, but I was watching some full concerts on YouTube and this struck my attention.
DEFTONES - [MULTICAM] Espacio Broadway, Santiago, Chile 07 Nov. 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIBuhwh9P_I#ws)
Around 1:11:09 Stephen and Sergio start doing a super spacey and atmospheric encore intro. Listening it to it gives me an idea that Eros might have incorporated some of these sounds. I'll never know but it's still a really weird and awesome treat. Or I could be wrong and maybe they made this up recently or it was a KNY B-side or some stupid stuff. I really think they should put this shit on their next record.
damn, that gave me chills. that encore fits everything of what eros is; dark, unorthodox, almost bordered on downright evil. at the same time however, im not sure if the band would be willing to play any eros-inspired material. also kind of sounds like an early intro version to Leathers. idk, nevertheless that's p cool
How can you say it fits everything of what Eros is? When we have never heard anything more than a few small clips and who knows how far along those were to being a completed product.
i'm just going off of what members of the band have said. source: http://www.spin.com/articles/studio-deftones/ (http://www.spin.com/articles/studio-deftones/)
It definitely has the Eros vibe just from what we have heard and how it's been described, it's probably not from Eros but I like it alot
It's obvious that the interlude jam is .... just that.... it's a little interlude jam, it's not a fucking b-side or an unreleased track off of Eros... Sergio is just using a sequencer effect while Stef is making the soundscape in the back, and not very interesting in my opinion. Not very musical, either... Seriously why does anyone want that to be on an album? I'm sure they're very capable of writing something better than that... Whereas I don't even think they "wrote" that song to begin with... it's just a jam to kill some time...
Why are you so angry bro. This is a forum for fan of the Deftones. Chill.
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Jan 19, 2014, 05:44 PM
It's obvious that the interlude jam is .... just that.... it's a little interlude jam, it's not a fucking b-side or an unreleased track off of Eros... Sergio is just using a sequencer effect while Stef is making the soundscape in the back, and not very interesting in my opinion. Not very musical, either... Seriously why does anyone want that to be on an album? I'm sure they're very capable of writing something better than that... Whereas I don't even think they "wrote" that song to begin with... it's just a jam to kill some time...
And that is why Deftones Own...
Quote from: BunsRaisinsPies on Jan 18, 2014, 09:20 PM
Don't really like posting in this thread, but I was watching some full concerts on YouTube and this struck my attention.
DEFTONES - [MULTICAM] Espacio Broadway, Santiago, Chile 07 Nov. 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIBuhwh9P_I#ws)
Around 1:11:09 Stephen and Sergio start doing a super spacey and atmospheric encore intro. Listening it to it gives me an idea that Eros might have incorporated some of these sounds. I'll never know but it's still a really weird and awesome treat. Or I could be wrong and maybe they made this up recently or it was a KNY B-side or some stupid stuff. I really think they should put this shit on their next record.
To me it sounds like a "jam" inspired on Animals as Leaders songs... could be wrong though
Animals as Leaders - Soraya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QpHppw8wEI#)
Animals as Leaders - Espera (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6bAn4Zg4II#)
That poster near to the US flag, is the poster that hung around here years ago?
(https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1508599_10152241771005056_1905563533_n.jpg)
idk but i know it says something like eros. Cool! Well at least stef keeps it alive.
Deftones - Smile (Eros)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In-x77Tx8xk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In-x77Tx8xk#t=252)
FUCK - where did this come from?
Quote from: the deft ones on Apr 13, 2014, 11:17 PM
FUCK - where did this come from?
Chino's Youtube channel.
So...coming from Chino's YouTube account, what are the implications??!!
Quote from: pinata89 on Apr 14, 2014, 03:39 AM
So...coming from Chino's YouTube account, what are the implications??!!
No implications, he just wanted to do something special for the day.
Some fuck on Facebook said he has a link to Eros, anyone hear of this rumor?
When and who said that?
Bump ???
I feel like people have been saying that for years.
I bet he has the Wasted at Waldrock video too...
Yep...sounds like someone trying to troll, to me. :(
Wait the waldrock video from 2001 is hard to find?
Quote from: III on Jun 20, 2014, 02:34 AM
Wait the waldrock video from 2001 is hard to find?
Yup, as far as we know there isn't one single video from that infamous show. But the audio is pretty hilarious ;D
We'll never hear it, will we....? :'(
Quote from: III on Jun 20, 2014, 02:34 AM
Wait the waldrock video from 2001 is hard to find?
As far as I know there's not even a proof it exists. Well some shooting crew probably caught it as it was a festival but those recordings never surface. No proof someone from the audience taped it.
Quote from: Teknoman on Jun 21, 2014, 04:35 AM
Quote from: III on Jun 20, 2014, 02:34 AM
Wait the waldrock video from 2001 is hard to find?
Yup, as far as we know there isn't one single video from that infamous show. But the audio is pretty hilarious ;D
and dont forget these pics
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbaxp04pha1qkvqtso8_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbc05j9g8I1qkvqtso1_500.jpg)
(http://illnino.fatal.ru/Fun/Chino.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/slyartwork/2001%2006%2030%20Waldrock%20Bergum/20010630WaldrockFestBurgumHollan-1.jpg)
I take it in another 10 years, we might just see Eros.
I think it might be released this year.
I doubt it. I hope I'm wrong.
If it gets released, than we'll have a new gracious gift from the Deftones to add to our collections and home shrines. I'm happy with anything they make. I listen to these guys almost religiously.
Quote from: Auctus on Jan 06, 2015, 10:09 PM
If it gets released, than we'll have a new gracious gift from the Deftones to add to our collections and home shrines. I'm happy with anything they make. I listen to these guys almost religiously.
Yea, me too, but I think we're getting at least some Eros tracks...
Or the whole album...
It would be awesome if they released Eros on the same day as the new album, possibly in one package.
Sorry fellas. Still gonna be a long, long time (if ever) before we hear Eros. The view of the album in the Deftones camp still hasn't changed and they're focused on moving ever forward. I'd say the best chance is after the band decides to close the curtain on Deftones writing new material and it'd be a bit of a retrospective release. I do really wish it would come sooner though.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 08, 2015, 02:50 AM
Sorry fellas. Still gonna be a long, long time (if ever) before we hear Eros. The view of the album in the Deftones camp still hasn't changed and they're focused on moving ever forward. I'd say the best chance is after the band decides to close the curtain on Deftones writing new material and it'd be a bit of a retrospective release. I do really wish it would come sooner though.
Ohh well, you are most likely right... :///
please stop posting in this fucking thread when there's no news, always getting my hopes up and now i'm doing it too
Quote from: Penicks on Jan 08, 2015, 10:04 AM
please stop posting in this fucking thread when there's no news, always getting my hopes up and now i'm doing it too
Quote from: cvthedrv on Jan 08, 2015, 01:06 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Jan 08, 2015, 10:04 AM
please stop posting in this fucking thread when there's no news, always getting my hopes up and now i'm doing it too
xdxdxdxd ok np
I've never see this !
http://youtu.be/kPwce2wDSeU (http://youtu.be/kPwce2wDSeU)
Quote from: Diplo on Jan 16, 2015, 09:04 PM
I've never see this !
http://youtu.be/kPwce2wDSeU (http://youtu.be/kPwce2wDSeU)
You can see at the end that the release date was supposed to be 4.02.09 I seriously love the pre-chorus on this btw.
They made the video private. I watched it once though, it was sweet.
damn, who has this video?
I rip it.
http://youtu.be/XaS8GLwuiok (http://youtu.be/XaS8GLwuiok)
https://mega.co.nz/#!DY9SmYbY!-AOLcgLstGl0PofT8ecz1U4EUFMO1jg8y-pOUp6XBX0 (https://mega.co.nz/#!DY9SmYbY!-AOLcgLstGl0PofT8ecz1U4EUFMO1jg8y-pOUp6XBX0)
Quote from: Diplo on Jan 17, 2015, 11:15 AM
http://youtu.be/XaS8GLwuiok (http://youtu.be/XaS8GLwuiok)
https://mega.co.nz/#!DY9SmYbY!-AOLcgLstGl0PofT8ecz1U4EUFMO1jg8y-pOUp6XBX0 (https://mega.co.nz/#!DY9SmYbY!-AOLcgLstGl0PofT8ecz1U4EUFMO1jg8y-pOUp6XBX0)
thanks mane
Which channel was it on at first? Deftones'?
By the way, I can't source this because I just don't remember where I got the info, but I'm pretty confident this song wasn't supposed to make it to Eros.
Quote from: MrVesanique on Jan 17, 2015, 02:11 PM
Which channel was it on at first? Deftones'?
A channel called Jgproductions. I think they were the editor for the in studio clips.
Quote from: Diplo on Jan 17, 2015, 11:15 AM
http://youtu.be/XaS8GLwuiok (http://youtu.be/XaS8GLwuiok)
https://mega.co.nz/#!DY9SmYbY!-AOLcgLstGl0PofT8ecz1U4EUFMO1jg8y-pOUp6XBX0 (https://mega.co.nz/#!DY9SmYbY!-AOLcgLstGl0PofT8ecz1U4EUFMO1jg8y-pOUp6XBX0)
Thanks a ton for ripping that.
Quote from: MrVesanique on Jan 17, 2015, 02:13 PM
By the way, I can't source this because I just don't remember where I got the info, but I'm pretty confident this song wasn't supposed to make it to Eros.
It's a shame, it sounds a lot like smile.
And Ves, I don't care if you take my rip, re-upload it (without quoting me) but at least say thanks. C'est la moindre des choses.
On voit que tu n'as pas l'habitude de ce genre de situation. ;)
Tu es dans la description, ceci dit. Merci pour le rip.
Quote from: Knucklestones on Jan 17, 2015, 03:11 PM
Quote from: MrVesanique on Jan 17, 2015, 02:11 PM
Which channel was it on at first? Deftones'?
A channel called Jgproductions. I think they were the editor for the in studio clips.
Cool, thanks!
Quote from: MrVesanique on Jan 17, 2015, 04:09 PM
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Quote from: MrVesanique on Jan 17, 2015, 02:11 PM
Which channel was it on at first? Deftones'?
A channel called Jgproductions. I think they were the editor for the in studio clips.
Cool, thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOzcj_5MEIozGwPnIr6ueMg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOzcj_5MEIozGwPnIr6ueMg) This was the original channel that uploaded it.
Sounds a little like beauty school
Quote from: Diplo on Jan 16, 2015, 09:04 PM
I've never see this !
http://youtu.be/kPwce2wDSeU (http://youtu.be/kPwce2wDSeU)
OOOOH! so this is the famous clip where Chino plays bass and Chi plays the guitar... I'v seen posts talking about this clip since always but I've never got the chance to watch it until now. Thanks for sharing.
Come on guys release that album.
Quote from: Diplo on Jan 17, 2015, 03:31 PM
Quote from: MrVesanique on Jan 17, 2015, 02:13 PM
By the way, I can't source this because I just don't remember where I got the info, but I'm pretty confident this song wasn't supposed to make it to Eros.
It's a shame, it sounds a lot like smile.
And Ves, I don't care if you take my rip, re-upload it (without quoting me) but at least say thanks. C'est la moindre des choses.
Sounds nothing like Smile in my opinion. Also really hope the song is on the album and gets released sometime. It'd be great to get more footage from the sessions too, assuming they wont play anything live ever again off the album.
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 23, 2010, 11:49 AM
In another interview, Chino said:
"The songs are definitely weird, which is a breath of fresh air to me. I haven't been playing guitar on these new songs so Steph has taken up the helm and that's worked out really well. He's been very creative has been writing very weird, melodic stuff. That's great because I want the album to be as weird as we can possibly make it without completely alienating people. If I had to compare it to any of our records, then I think it probably reminds me of White Pony the most.
Now I see that not necessary what Chino says is the complete true. If he said he said he has not been playing guitar, means that he even played bass. And, if we see, Smile has 2 guitars, so it is possibly Chi playing the 2nd guitar and Chino the bass. Now that I read it, it might have been his tribute, Chino playing bass on Smile in tribute to Chi.
But hey... Those are just suppositions, from what I've been seen during all the Eros process...
Quote from: MrVesanique on Jan 17, 2015, 04:09 PM
On voit que tu n'as pas l'habitude de ce genre de situation. ;)
Tu es dans la description, ceci dit. Merci pour le rip.
Yup
Merci le belge !
Quote from: shoop on Jan 18, 2015, 12:06 AM
Quote from: Diplo on Jan 17, 2015, 03:31 PM
Quote from: MrVesanique on Jan 17, 2015, 02:13 PM
By the way, I can't source this because I just don't remember where I got the info, but I'm pretty confident this song wasn't supposed to make it to Eros.
It's a shame, it sounds a lot like smile.
And Ves, I don't care if you take my rip, re-upload it (without quoting me) but at least say thanks. C'est la moindre des choses.
Sounds nothing like Smile in my opinion. Also really hope the song is on the album and gets released sometime.
I mean, there is similarities with the high guitar notes.
thank you very much to the uploaders
as for the song it's pretty good, it's heavier but doesn't take away from the relaxed mellow vibe
Thanks for this video. I'm really loving it.
it's a cool bit of music bit after hearing more of it I'm really curious as to how Chino sang over it
I always wondered where that intro was going when they were releasing those in studio clips
Yeah can't say i expected the melodic sort of riff, I like it but I thought it would be more like a simple chord thing it's pretty cool to hear Steph mix it up a bit some of that has an Adam Jones type feel aswell with ringing sound.
I've seen you guys sometimes say that you hope they'll release Eros and donate the money to Chi's family. Do you think their record label would allow that? I mean, when Chino released Smile, they took it down very quickly, didn't they? It seems like they wouldn't allow them to do that. But I guess they could release it when they're not with a record label or when they're done making music, and they could do it that way.
I think we'll just get parts of it over the years
Quote from: ANattyRat on Jan 20, 2015, 12:43 PM
I've seen you guys sometimes say that you hope they'll release Eros and donate the money to Chi's family. Do you think their record label would allow that? I mean, when Chino released Smile, they took it down very quickly, didn't they? It seems like they wouldn't allow them to do that. But I guess they could release it when they're not with a record label or when they're done making music, and they could do it that way.
Each band member would make money off the album if officially released. They could donate that to Chi's family and it's certainly possible, but the record label's cut would be up to the label. I wouldn't hold my breath on that though.
I am really enjoying this track, it gives me more hope for Eros (if it ever comes out). I kind of always suspected Eros was more hype than anything and if it ever made it out it wouldn't meet expectations but maybe I was just being pessimistic.
Two years :(
Quote from: KID_CHAINSAW on Jan 20, 2015, 05:13 PM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Jan 20, 2015, 12:43 PM
I've seen you guys sometimes say that you hope they'll release Eros and donate the money to Chi's family. Do you think their record label would allow that? I mean, when Chino released Smile, they took it down very quickly, didn't they? It seems like they wouldn't allow them to do that. But I guess they could release it when they're not with a record label or when they're done making music, and they could do it that way.
Each band member would make money off the album if officially released. They could donate that to Chi's family and it's certainly possible, but the record label's cut would be up to the label. I wouldn't hold my breath on that though.
CHI is still attached to that album on contractual and legal terms so would the royalties and some proceeds from the sales not go to him?
From what you've heard how do you think this album sounds/will sound? To me, and I've only heard the rehearsal clip, it sounds like S/T with more variety and inspired songwriting and SNW with atmosphere. It would likely be heavier than their newer stuff but maybe not as heavy as the really early stuff. So pretty balanced maybe?
Quote from: Heisenberg on Jan 26, 2016, 04:00 PM
From what you've heard how do you think this album sounds/will sound? To me, and I've only heard the rehearsal clip, it sounds like S/T with more variety and inspired songwriting and SNW with atmosphere. It would likely be heavier than their newer stuff but maybe not as heavy as the really early stuff. So pretty balanced maybe?
Well we've heard three songs. You decide.
Smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqaLmlEfU7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqaLmlEfU7w)
Dallas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5WJEBPyCDw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5WJEBPyCDw)
Melanie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo)
date=1453827384]
Quote from: Heisenberg on Jan 26, 2016, 04:00 PM
From what you've heard how do you think this album sounds/will sound? To me, and I've only heard the rehearsal clip, it sounds like S/T with more variety and inspired songwriting and SNW with atmosphere. It would likely be heavier than their newer stuff but maybe not as heavy as the really early stuff. So pretty balanced maybe?
Well we've heard three songs. You decide.
Smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqaLmlEfU7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqaLmlEfU7w)
Dallas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5WJEBPyCDw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5WJEBPyCDw)
Melanie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo)
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I hadn't heard Melanie and I forgot Smile was an Eros song. I discovered the band in 2009 so Eros stuff predates me.
Quote from: Heisenberg on Jan 26, 2016, 05:03 PM
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Quote from: Heisenberg on Jan 26, 2016, 04:00 PM
From what you've heard how do you think this album sounds/will sound? To me, and I've only heard the rehearsal clip, it sounds like S/T with more variety and inspired songwriting and SNW with atmosphere. It would likely be heavier than their newer stuff but maybe not as heavy as the really early stuff. So pretty balanced maybe?
Well we've heard three songs. You decide.
Smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqaLmlEfU7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqaLmlEfU7w)
Dallas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5WJEBPyCDw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5WJEBPyCDw)
Melanie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo)
I hadn't heard Melanie and I forgot Smile was an Eros song. I discovered the band in 2009 so Eros stuff predates me.
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All three were Eros songs. Tracklisting for Gore:
01 – "Prayers/Triangles"
02 – "Acid Hologram"
03 – "Doomed User"
04 – "Geometric Headdress"
05 – "Hearts/Wires"
06 – "Pittura Infamante"
07 – "Xenon"
08 – "(L)MIRL"
09 – "Gore"
10 – "Phantom Bride"
There's more than 10 songs on the new album, we only saw partial track list.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Jan 26, 2016, 07:21 PM
There's more than 10 songs on the new album, we only saw partial track list.
Nothing is official but that's what we're working with. It's very likely that none of the eros tracks will be on the new album.
Quote from: therealdaebat on Jan 26, 2016, 06:40 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on Jan 26, 2016, 05:03 PM
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Quote from: Heisenberg on Jan 26, 2016, 04:00 PM
From what you've heard how do you think this album sounds/will sound? To me, and I've only heard the rehearsal clip, it sounds like S/T with more variety and inspired songwriting and SNW with atmosphere. It would likely be heavier than their newer stuff but maybe not as heavy as the really early stuff. So pretty balanced maybe?
Well we've heard three songs. You decide.
Smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqaLmlEfU7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqaLmlEfU7w)
Dallas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5WJEBPyCDw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5WJEBPyCDw)
Melanie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo)
I hadn't heard Melanie and I forgot Smile was an Eros song. I discovered the band in 2009 so Eros stuff predates me.
All three were Eros songs. Tracklisting for Gore:
01 – "Prayers/Triangles"
02 – "Acid Hologram"
03 – "Doomed User"
04 – "Geometric Headdress"
05 – "Hearts/Wires"
06 – "Pittura Infamante"
07 – "Xenon"
08 – "(L)MIRL"
09 – "Gore"
10 – "Phantom Bride"
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Yeah, they were Eros songs. I assumed he was talking about Eros, not Gore... since this is the Eros thread.
And yes, with 0 inside information I can just about guarantee that none of the Eros songs will be on the new album.
Does anyone know if the lyrics and vocals to Smile were done after Chi's death? Those lyrics would be eerie if they were written when they worked on Eros.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Feb 02, 2016, 01:04 AM
Does anyone know if the lyrics and vocals to Smile were done after Chi's death? Those lyrics would be eerie if they were written when they worked on Eros.
Nobody knows for sure but from what I've read / heard in interviews they shelved the album after Chi's accident and didn't work on it any further.
also regarding eros, didn't chino say they may consider releasing it after gore(at the time it was just the "next album" after KNY) gets released?
He did, and I hope it is still what they have in mind.
Well those lyrics are odd then since they seem like they're about Chi.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Feb 02, 2016, 01:04 AM
Does anyone know if the lyrics and vocals to Smile were done after Chi's death? Those lyrics would be eerie if they were written when they worked on Eros.
Chino was halfway through recording vocals for Eros when Chi had the accident. Personally, I think the vocals for Smile were recorded after Chi passed.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Feb 02, 2016, 09:41 PM
Well those lyrics are odd then since they seem like they're about Chi.
Yeah, makes us wonder a lot...
Quote from: therealdaebat on Feb 02, 2016, 03:48 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Feb 02, 2016, 01:04 AM
Does anyone know if the lyrics and vocals to Smile were done after Chi's death? Those lyrics would be eerie if they were written when they worked on Eros.
Nobody knows for sure but from what I've read / heard in interviews they shelved the album after Chi's accident and didn't work on it any further.
Do you remember when these interviews are from?
Does anyone know if anyone in the band has ever commented on Smile during an interview or anything? Like why they released it, why it was removed by the record company, if it is representative of the sound of the record in general, etc?
http://noisefull.com/interviews/deftones-chino-moreno (http://noisefull.com/interviews/deftones-chino-moreno)
From the interview:
"Let's talk about the "Eros" album. You said few years ago that probably it will not see the light of day but we've heard recently the song "Smile" from it. Is there any change of plans for this album maybe as a tribute to Cheng's memory?
No, there isn't any change of plans. I just shared one song ("Smile") a month ago when it was the first anniversary of Chi's death. This album wasn't finished and if we want to release it one day, we have to work on it further. I don't think that we are really looking forward to go back to this point of our career and dedicate time to finish this album. Probably it won't be ever released."
If anyone can ask the band, I would like to know if those are the vocals Chino did or if there are new.
Also (maybe it's obvious), if did Chi play on the song or if it's even Segio...
Quote from: RaptureWS on Mar 08, 2016, 05:23 PM
why it was removed by the record company
because warner owns the music, not deftones.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 08, 2016, 08:06 PM
Quote from: RaptureWS on Mar 08, 2016, 05:23 PM
why it was removed by the record company
because warner owns the music, not deftones.
um no
anyway
im so excited for this album
um yes
Quote from: TheyCallMeP on Mar 09, 2016, 04:27 AM
Quote from: Yoi Yes Kokan on Mar 09, 2016, 02:54 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 08, 2016, 08:06 PM
Quote from: RaptureWS on Mar 08, 2016, 05:23 PM
why it was removed by the record company
because warner owns the music, not deftones.
um no
anyway
im so excited for this album
Lol, dick.
warner even own their souls.
Quote from: cvthedrv on Mar 09, 2016, 06:11 PM
Quote from: TheyCallMeP on Mar 09, 2016, 04:27 AM
Quote from: Yoi Yes Kokan on Mar 09, 2016, 02:54 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 08, 2016, 08:06 PM
Quote from: RaptureWS on Mar 08, 2016, 05:23 PM
why it was removed by the record company
because warner owns the music, not deftones.
um no
anyway
im so excited for this album
Lol, dick.
warner even own their souls.
Have Deftones ever tried to negotiate acquiring the rights to their songs?
they had to shoot that one guy in the foot once
say they have five songs on Eros with vocals recorded and the other five instrumental, would guys prefer he adds vocals to the other five. Personally I wouldn't care either way because I trust Deftones in making the right calls
I prefer vocals because I prefer songs with lyrics to instrumental music anyway, but it'd probably feel very disconnected and distracting if they did that. You'd probably be able to sense the differences between the older songs and the newer ones.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Mar 10, 2016, 07:40 AM
I prefer vocals because I prefer songs with lyrics to instrumental music anyway, but it'd probably feel very disconnected and distracting if they did that. You'd probably be able to sense the differences between the older songs and the newer ones.
That's what I was thinking too, while I was listening to the instrumentals, I'd be wondering how the whole time what the songs would of sounded like with vocals. I don't know there's two schools of thoughts I guess. I feel like Chino's talented enough to make it work, especially if Terry Date finished it with them. I get what you're saying though with the disconnected point of view. In the big picture I'd be so excited to hear it, I'd be down for however they finish it, but no Serg backing vocals. (nothing against him) just saying
Quote from: ZND84 on Mar 10, 2016, 07:09 AM
say they have five songs on Eros with vocals recorded and the other five instrumental, would guys prefer he adds vocals to the other five. Personally I wouldn't care either way because I trust Deftones in making the right calls
Yes, definitely would like all songs that would've originally had vocals to have vocals. But getting the instrumentals after that is always nice too..so both.
I love what I've heard from Eros, but I'm curious as to whether or not the band used old songs from sessions that didn't make albums (including the Bob Ezrin sessions) and reworked them. I'm also curious as to whether the band has taken Eros songs and re-worked them for newer albums as well.
Quote from: Entombed on Mar 11, 2016, 12:56 AM
I'm also curious as to whether the band has taken Eros songs and re-worked them for newer albums as well.
They didn't. Eros is finished music wise, and if it sees the light of day it would be stupid for them to have songs that are now other songs.
I agree that it would be stupid. That said, I'm still curious if it's at all derivative. Neither of us have heard the album, nor have we heard every Deftones demo, so there's no telling. Being curious doesn't mean that I'm saying they have either, as I doubt that they actually did, but neither of us know what Eros sounds like...unless there's something you're hiding.
Quote from: shoop on Mar 10, 2016, 12:20 PM
Quote from: ZND84 on Mar 10, 2016, 07:09 AM
say they have five songs on Eros with vocals recorded and the other five instrumental, would guys prefer he adds vocals to the other five. Personally I wouldn't care either way because I trust Deftones in making the right calls
Yes, definitely would like all songs that would've originally had vocals to have vocals. But getting the instrumentals after that is always nice too..so both.
In a perfect world, they would release Eros 'as it is', finished tracks and tracks that are only instrumental, and as bonus tracks/disc, those unfinished versions with Chino putting the voice capturing the actual moment.
One only can dream...
Btw, I wish those members that knew for sure certain things about the upcoming album could post here or maybe say a hint or.. just something...
WHere are you, @rumors, @gregorerio, @tokio drifter and so on?
Quote from: defTHE1s on Mar 11, 2016, 01:35 AM
Quote from: shoop on Mar 10, 2016, 12:20 PM
Quote from: ZND84 on Mar 10, 2016, 07:09 AM
say they have five songs on Eros with vocals recorded and the other five instrumental, would guys prefer he adds vocals to the other five. Personally I wouldn't care either way because I trust Deftones in making the right calls
Yes, definitely would like all songs that would've originally had vocals to have vocals. But getting the instrumentals after that is always nice too..so both.
In a perfect world, they would release Eros 'as it is', finished tracks and tracks that are only instrumental, and as bonus tracks/disc, those unfinished versions with Chino putting the voice capturing the actual moment.
One only can dream...
Btw, I wish those members that knew for sure certain things about the upcoming album could post here or maybe say a hint or.. just something...
WHere are you, @rumors, @gregorerio, @tokio drifter and so on?
Did someone call? lol. I'm not sure what more can be said that hasn't been said already. Some of Eros sounded great. Some of it sounded like SNW 1.5. There are multiple reasons it didn't come out at the time. Hopefully it'll come out one day, but I think the right thing is to move forward for now.
Quote from: rumors on Mar 11, 2016, 04:00 AM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Mar 11, 2016, 01:35 AM
Quote from: shoop on Mar 10, 2016, 12:20 PM
Quote from: ZND84 on Mar 10, 2016, 07:09 AM
say they have five songs on Eros with vocals recorded and the other five instrumental, would guys prefer he adds vocals to the other five. Personally I wouldn't care either way because I trust Deftones in making the right calls
Yes, definitely would like all songs that would've originally had vocals to have vocals. But getting the instrumentals after that is always nice too..so both.
In a perfect world, they would release Eros 'as it is', finished tracks and tracks that are only instrumental, and as bonus tracks/disc, those unfinished versions with Chino putting the voice capturing the actual moment.
One only can dream...
Btw, I wish those members that knew for sure certain things about the upcoming album could post here or maybe say a hint or.. just something...
WHere are you, @rumors, @gregorerio, @tokio drifter and so on?
Did someone call? lol. I'm not sure what more can be said that hasn't been said already. Some of Eros sounded great. Some of it sounded like SNW 1.5. There are multiple reasons it didn't come out at the time. Hopefully it'll come out one day, but I think the right thing is to move forward for now.
SNW 1.5 sounds pretty damn great to me!
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 11, 2016, 04:05 AM
Quote from: rumors on Mar 11, 2016, 04:00 AM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Mar 11, 2016, 01:35 AM
Quote from: shoop on Mar 10, 2016, 12:20 PM
Quote from: ZND84 on Mar 10, 2016, 07:09 AM
say they have five songs on Eros with vocals recorded and the other five instrumental, would guys prefer he adds vocals to the other five. Personally I wouldn't care either way because I trust Deftones in making the right calls
Yes, definitely would like all songs that would've originally had vocals to have vocals. But getting the instrumentals after that is always nice too..so both.
In a perfect world, they would release Eros 'as it is', finished tracks and tracks that are only instrumental, and as bonus tracks/disc, those unfinished versions with Chino putting the voice capturing the actual moment.
One only can dream...
Btw, I wish those members that knew for sure certain things about the upcoming album could post here or maybe say a hint or.. just something...
WHere are you, @rumors, @gregorerio, @tokio drifter and so on?
Did someone call? lol. I'm not sure what more can be said that hasn't been said already. Some of Eros sounded great. Some of it sounded like SNW 1.5. There are multiple reasons it didn't come out at the time. Hopefully it'll come out one day, but I think the right thing is to move forward for now.
SNW 1.5 sounds pretty damn great to me!
x2 It has almost gained mythological status with me which makes me want to hear it even more. Hopefully one day when wounds have healed we will get to listen to Chi's final work.
I can definitely see melanie as SNW 1.5, sounds like a mixture of rapture and rats
Quote from: rumors on Mar 11, 2016, 04:00 AM
Did someone call? lol. I'm not sure what more can be said that hasn't been said already. Some of Eros sounded great. Some of it sounded like SNW 1.5. There are multiple reasons it didn't come out at the time. Hopefully it'll come out one day, but I think the right thing is to move forward for now.
I like that you seem to oppose "sounding great", and "sounding like SNW"... ;D
Quote from: tarkil on Mar 11, 2016, 07:26 AM
I like that you seem to oppose "sounding great", and "sounding like SNW"... ;D
yeah that was pretty funny 8)
Quote from: rumors on Mar 11, 2016, 04:00 AM
Hopefully it'll come out one day, but I think the right thing is to move forward for now.
I'll stick with this then...
Quote from: defTHE1s on Mar 21, 2016, 06:23 PM
Quote from: rumors on Mar 11, 2016, 04:00 AM
Hopefully it'll come out one day, but I think the right thing is to move forward for now.
I'll stick with this then...
I could see them releasing it as a Record Store Day release. Probably once they aren't feeling creative and aren't working on an album for a while.
what you guys don't know, is that this album is a Chinese Trick. Chino is fucking with you. he's holding onto this piece of gold and meditating with some opium tea about when the perfect time is to release is it, which by the looks of the negativity about their new shit, might be the next album, because he knows it will be no.1 on the charts.
Argh.
I totally on board with the new record, in this case 'Gore'. Looking forward to new Deftones tunes, always. It's a trip man, every time.
And yes, I'm still interested in Eros too. But that waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting...fuuuuuckkk. I'd like to know if at some point I'm going to hear it (in my lifetime), or if I should completely stop waiting.
this is a thread about a record that was shelved like ten years ago. not even gonna read how this has 75 pages of talk.
i just farted, but yall aint hearing the recording. discuss.
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 23, 2016, 04:33 PM
this is a thread about a record that was shelved like ten years ago. not even gonna read how this has 75 pages of talk.
i just farted, but yall aint hearing the recording. discuss.
The difference is we love Deftones, and there's a partially finished album full of unreleased material that we're all interested in seeing, and nobody gives a fuck about you, your judgement, or your farts.
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 23, 2016, 04:33 PM
this is a thread about a record that was shelved like ten years ago. not even gonna read how this has 75 pages of talk.
i just farted, but yall aint hearing the recording. discuss.
hope you have an horrible life.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 23, 2016, 04:57 PM
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 23, 2016, 04:33 PM
this is a thread about a record that was shelved like ten years ago. not even gonna read how this has 75 pages of talk.
i just farted, but yall aint hearing the recording. discuss.
The difference is we love Deftones, and there's a partially finished album full of unreleased material that we're all interested in seeing, and nobody gives a fuck about you, your judgement, or your farts.
Quote from: cvthedrv on Mar 23, 2016, 05:11 PM
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 23, 2016, 04:33 PM
this is a thread about a record that was shelved like ten years ago. not even gonna read how this has 75 pages of talk.
i just farted, but yall aint hearing the recording. discuss.
hope you have an horrible life.
(http://www.empowher.com/sites/default/files/herarticle/helping-kids-deal-with-tragedy.jpg)
So, back to 'Eros' shall we?
the greek god of love
Quote from: Martin on Mar 24, 2016, 10:42 AM
So, back to 'Eros' shall we?
Vague thought..what if the board chips in and purchases the material from Warner Bros? lol ::) ;D
Hahah crowdfunding in a very different way.
I wonder how much money that would take...
I would love to see:
- Eros as a 3-SACD/1DVD box set...
- One SACD original mixes with/without vocals ("unfinished state album")
- 2nd SACD new mixes with vocals that were completed after the "unfinished Eros" was finally finished (assuming there are tracks Chino never finished vocals on)
- 3rd SACD of studio outtakes, live recordings, maybe even some awesome in-studio Chi patter
- DVD of ALL Eros-sessions video clips they made
- Big ass booklet of Chi photos and memories from band members...
I won't hold my breath, but I cant imagine how awesome it would be to see that
Quote from: 77years on Mar 25, 2016, 01:55 PM
I would love to see:
- Eros as a 3-SACD/1DVD box set...
- One SACD original mixes with/without vocals ("unfinished state album")
- 2nd SACD new mixes with vocals that were completed after the "unfinished Eros" was finally finished (assuming there are tracks Chino never finished vocals on)
- 3rd SACD of studio outtakes, live recordings, maybe even some awesome in-studio Chi patter
- DVD of ALL Eros-sessions video clips they made
- Big ass booklet of Chi photos and memories from band members...
I won't hold my breath, but I cant imagine how awesome it would be to see that
I think if any of us get to talk to the band before or after a show, we should try to plant the idea. Not necessarily something like you said, but something besides the album itself, something extra special to kind of memorialise it in a way. Hell, they can increase the price and give some of the money to Chi's family, I don't think any of us would mind paying more for it. I doubt it'd happen though, it just doesn't seem like something they'd do, but hey, maybe we will get to hear it one day. They just don't have a solid idea of if, how and when, as of yet.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Mar 25, 2016, 02:15 PM
Quote from: 77years on Mar 25, 2016, 01:55 PM
I would love to see:
- Eros as a 3-SACD/1DVD box set...
- One SACD original mixes with/without vocals ("unfinished state album")
- 2nd SACD new mixes with vocals that were completed after the "unfinished Eros" was finally finished (assuming there are tracks Chino never finished vocals on)
- 3rd SACD of studio outtakes, live recordings, maybe even some awesome in-studio Chi patter
- DVD of ALL Eros-sessions video clips they made
- Big ass booklet of Chi photos and memories from band members...
I won't hold my breath, but I cant imagine how awesome it would be to see that
I think if any of us get to talk to the band before or after a show, we should try to plant the idea. Not necessarily something like you said, but something besides the album itself, something extra special to kind of memorialise it in a way. Hell, they can increase the price and give some of the money to Chi's family, I don't think any of us would mind paying more for it. I doubt it'd happen though, it just doesn't seem like something they'd do, but hey, maybe we will get to hear it one day. They just don't have a solid idea of if, how and when, as of yet.
Exactly... like make the release an EVENT - as opposed to just music, but a fun way to remember what the band was all about then, and the people and the vibe they had funneling into the music...
it will be there next album with new vocals and added arrangements, it will be there most magical piece because of patience in time
-delete-
at least 4 tracks are I-ficial. too bad that's only 40 percent of an album.
See what I found on one russian forum
https://2ch.hk/mu/src/1278853/14600613793250.webm
https://2ch.hk/mu/src/1278853/14601324105550.webm
these are alleged to be Eros demos, the first one is Destiny, the second one is unknown. What do you think?
second one is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwXZZSb2aO4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwXZZSb2aO4)
russians are shit tier
Sounds nothing like Deftones. Plus, the second artwork is made by this lovely girl: http://c-91.deviantart.com/ (http://c-91.deviantart.com/)
This is Russia bitch.
oh shit. If the first track isn't Eros either, I'd like to know where it's actually from
Now that Gore is out, the countdown is on for Eros...
2 more hours
Quote from: krook on Apr 08, 2016, 04:47 PM
oh shit. If the first track isn't Eros either, I'd like to know where it's actually from
https://silenceisavirus.bandcamp.com/track/excite-excite
Quote from: krook on Apr 08, 2016, 04:23 PM
See what I found on one russian forum
https://2ch.hk/mu/src/1278853/14600613793250.webm
https://2ch.hk/mu/src/1278853/14601324105550.webm
these are alleged to be Eros demos, the first one is Destiny, the second one is unknown. What do you think?
this first song is baller as fuck. who cares if it isn't DT lol
Quote from: Knucklestones on Apr 08, 2016, 05:43 PM
Quote from: krook on Apr 08, 2016, 04:47 PM
oh shit. If the first track isn't Eros either, I'd like to know where it's actually from
https://silenceisavirus.bandcamp.com/track/excite-excite
oh wow now there's a good deftones rip-off band
Quote from: Penicks on Apr 08, 2016, 04:35 PM
second one is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwXZZSb2aO4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwXZZSb2aO4)
russians are shit tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6grVJyS-ap4&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6grVJyS-ap4&feature=youtu.be)
Soon
(http://i.imgur.com/pUXK8ce.png)
Lol they continue making fake demos
https://2ch.hk/mu/src/1278853/14601359391050.webm
https://2ch.hk/mu/src/1278853/14601388517650.webm
the second one kicks ass. Another version of u, u, d, d
Quote from: astynk on Apr 08, 2016, 06:47 PM
Soon
(http://i.imgur.com/pUXK8ce.png)
dream big
Quote from: Freedomsoldier17 on Apr 08, 2016, 07:24 PM
Quote from: astynk on Apr 08, 2016, 06:47 PM
Soon
(http://i.imgur.com/pUXK8ce.png)
dream big
Chino mentioned in an interview that Eros wasn't that great and that Diamond Eyes is rated better. Lol, all I can say is the songs are definitely going to be re-written.
Oh fuck this
what most people don't know is that some of the songs from eros actually made it into diamond eyes. and they're easily distinguishable. ;)
Quote from: blondie on Apr 08, 2016, 09:04 PM
what most people don't know is that some of the songs from eros actually made it into diamond eyes. and they're easily distinguishable. ;)
From what I know, only Roller Derby got into KNY as Poltergeist
Smile was released a year after Chi's death
There's also Melanie live and Dallas demo. That's all. Am I missing something?
Quote from: astynk on Apr 08, 2016, 06:47 PM
Soon
(http://i.imgur.com/pUXK8ce.png)
Are you one of the band members?
Quote from: krook on Apr 08, 2016, 09:18 PM
Quote from: blondie on Apr 08, 2016, 09:04 PM
what most people don't know is that some of the songs from eros actually made it into diamond eyes. and they're easily distinguishable. ;)
From what I know, only Roller Derby got into KNY as Poltergeist
Smile was released a year after Chi's death
There's also Melanie live and Dallas demo. That's all. Am I missing something?
Who said Roller Derby was supposed to be on Eros? It was played live as Roller Derby specifically as new music from their at-the-time upcoming album, Koi No Yokan.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Apr 08, 2016, 09:36 PM
Quote from: krook on Apr 08, 2016, 09:18 PM
Quote from: blondie on Apr 08, 2016, 09:04 PM
what most people don't know is that some of the songs from eros actually made it into diamond eyes. and they're easily distinguishable. ;)
From what I know, only Roller Derby got into KNY as Poltergeist
Smile was released a year after Chi's death
There's also Melanie live and Dallas demo. That's all. Am I missing something?
Who said Roller Derby was supposed to be on Eros? It was played live as Roller Derby specifically as new music from their at-the-time upcoming album, Koi No Yokan.
rollerderby = poltergeist
Quote from: cvthedrv on Apr 09, 2016, 05:08 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Apr 08, 2016, 09:36 PM
Quote from: krook on Apr 08, 2016, 09:18 PM
Quote from: blondie on Apr 08, 2016, 09:04 PM
what most people don't know is that some of the songs from eros actually made it into diamond eyes. and they're easily distinguishable. ;)
From what I know, only Roller Derby got into KNY as Poltergeist
Smile was released a year after Chi's death
There's also Melanie live and Dallas demo. That's all. Am I missing something?
Who said Roller Derby was supposed to be on Eros? It was played live as Roller Derby specifically as new music from their at-the-time upcoming album, Koi No Yokan.
rollerderby = poltergeist
Yeah I know, but Krook mentioned Roller Derby getting into Koi No Yokan as Poltergeist while mentioning Eros songs, as if Roller Derby was originally from Eros.
Never gonna happen.
I don't think it's happening either
At least, not anytime soon, based on this recent interview with Chino: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/deftones-interview-with-chino-moreno-we-re-expanding-our-sound-were-not-making-adrenaline-or-white-a6974046.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/deftones-interview-with-chino-moreno-we-re-expanding-our-sound-were-not-making-adrenaline-or-white-a6974046.html)
Enlisting ex-Quicksand bassist Segio Vega, the band scrapped sessions for the album they'd been working on with Cheng. Titled Eros, it has gained a fabled reputation amongst fans, with song titles, (including Smile, Melanie, Dallas and Destiny) instrumental demos and even what appear to be complete songs surfacing online. Moreno though seems resolute that, for the moment, it's not a project the band will be returning to any time soon. 'Musically it's probably 75 - 80% done and lyrically it was about halfway there, but honestly, I wasn't too happy with the material we had,' he says. 'Some of the music was lacking a little bit. I had faith it was going to come together and be great in the end, but we never got to that point. Once Chi had his accident, everything came to a halt with the Eros sessions, so the idea of going back to that batch of songs, finishing them and have Sergio learn Chi's parts just hasn't felt like something that we're interested in doing. If the record were finished and we were just sitting on it, we probably would have put it out by now, maybe even given it away, just so that people can hear it, but it would take a lot more work to get it done. But when we get together, we're much more fascinated with where we are in this moment, trying to create something new.'
Sounds like the sessions were half-finished and uninspired at the point of Chi's accident. Doesn't appear the band thinks it's worth hearing or releasing..
So, is he saying now that Chi didn't even fully finish his parts? Am I reading that right? If that's the case, then yeah, we'll never hear a completed version.
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 10, 2016, 03:42 AM
So, is he saying now that Chi didn't even fully finish his parts? Am I reading that right? If that's the case, then yeah, we'll never hear a completed version.
The way I interpret it is that Chino means touring when he says "have Sergio learn Chi's parts", because he talks about finishing the album before. Anyway I thought that everything except for Chino's vocal parts were done based on past interviews and info. Can anybody confirm?
Quote from: WickedBreath on Apr 10, 2016, 09:34 AM
The way I interpret it is that Chino means touring when he says "have Sergio learn Chi's parts", because he talks about finishing the album before. Anyway I thought that everything except for Chino's vocal parts were done based on past interviews and info. Can anybody confirm?
It says in that interview I linked to that the material was only about 75% done, and the band wasn't very happy with the material they had
yeah but he has also said "there's a lot of great music on it, I know that" about eros back in 2011. he's been back and forth about it during the years - whether he likes it or not .but even if he didn't like eros,that doesn't mean we wouldn't. chino's opinion is just one guy's opinion, whatever it may be.
what's surprising here though is that he says it isn't finished musically.that's news to me.for instance, frank said in 2010 in a Quiets interview:
"You had Eros written, but not recorded, before it...
Frank: Yeah, pretty much. Chino was still doing vocals on half the tracks [before the accident], but music-wise it had been finished for a while."
they're dropping some conflicting information on us. when chino now says it isn't done musically, could that mean it's recorded but not 100% mixed and fixed?
I bet we don't hear anything from Eros until they are completely done making new records which makes since to me. Which begs the question. How many more do you think they have in them?
Quote from: HooiserBowhunter on Apr 10, 2016, 09:41 PM
I bet we don't hear anything from Eros until they are completely done making new records which makes since to me. Which begs the question. How many more do you think they have in them?
I think they have a lot more in them. They'll be making music together for however long they enjoy it, regardless of any other factors. And for god's sake, don't mention Stef's interview. I get it, dude wasn't thrilled to be involved at first, but that changed. Besides, it's not like none of them have felt that way before. Stuff like that happens, but they're still willing to try, and then eventually they do get into it and excited, so nothing has really changed.
They did say they'd probably release one more album (Gore) before releasing Eros, though. I just don't think it'll live up to the hype. We've wanted it for such a long time, we've been talking about it for such a long time, that I worry it'll never be able to live up to this pedestal people have put it on, especially with it being the last album Chi worked on.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Apr 10, 2016, 10:28 PM
Quote from: HooiserBowhunter on Apr 10, 2016, 09:41 PM
I bet we don't hear anything from Eros until they are completely done making new records which makes since to me. Which begs the question. How many more do you think they have in them?
I think they have a lot more in them. They'll be making music together for however long they enjoy it, regardless of any other factors. And for god's sake, don't mention Stef's interview. I get it, dude wasn't thrilled to be involved at first, but that changed. Besides, it's not like none of them have felt that way before. Stuff like that happens, but they're still willing to try, and then eventually they do get into it and excited, so nothing has really changed.
I'm not worried about Stef saying that he feels kind of excluded because of Chino's ambitions and the band's musical direction. I'm more worried about them getting old. One day they're going to get tired of Deftones and just retire, they'll have their current side projects to keep life going. This day may not come anytime soon, but when it does I won't be surprised.
Hopefully it seems that they are still very motivated, so we can assume that there's more where it comes from. As for Eros, I think that it's pointless to look for it at this point. But if, someday, I see an update on their facebook or instagram teasing an eventual release for Eros... I'll just lose my shit.
Quote from: Reichward on Apr 10, 2016, 10:39 PM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Apr 10, 2016, 10:28 PM
Quote from: HooiserBowhunter on Apr 10, 2016, 09:41 PM
I bet we don't hear anything from Eros until they are completely done making new records which makes since to me. Which begs the question. How many more do you think they have in them?
I think they have a lot more in them. They'll be making music together for however long they enjoy it, regardless of any other factors. And for god's sake, don't mention Stef's interview. I get it, dude wasn't thrilled to be involved at first, but that changed. Besides, it's not like none of them have felt that way before. Stuff like that happens, but they're still willing to try, and then eventually they do get into it and excited, so nothing has really changed.
I'm not worried about Stef saying that he feels kind of excluded because of Chino's ambitions and the band's musical direction. I'm more worried about them getting old. One day they're going to get tired of Deftones and just retire, they'll have their current side projects to keep life going. This day may not come anytime soon, but when it does I won't be surprised.
Hopefully it seems that they are still very motivated, so we can assume that there's more where it comes from. As for Eros, I think that it's pointless to look for it at this point. But if, someday, I see an update on their facebook or instagram teasing an eventual release for Eros... I'll just lose my shit.
Of course it'll happen eventually, but for now they still enjoy hanging out and making music, so I'm not too worried. As for Eros, it'll probably just pop up out of nowhere, like Smile, haha.
Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 10, 2016, 07:52 PM
Quote from: WickedBreath on Apr 10, 2016, 09:34 AM
The way I interpret it is that Chino means touring when he says "have Sergio learn Chi's parts", because he talks about finishing the album before. Anyway I thought that everything except for Chino's vocal parts were done based on past interviews and info. Can anybody confirm?
It says in that interview I linked to that the material was only about 75% done, and the band wasn't very happy with the material they had
Oh yeah, you're right about that. As from_musings said, there seems to be some conflicting information... Or then someone simply fucked up the transcript of this interview (since there are various interviews claiming the opposite). Personally, if it was only missing vocals, I'd prefer it to come out that way than with a bunch of layers that were added years and years after, but if it wasn't finished even musically, I'm not so sure.
As much as I am intrigued by Eros, it has indeed become painfully obvious that the band (well, Chino) is not focused on it at all. However, even if it's well-documented that Chino prefers Diamond Eyes for instance, I do believe Eros will come out sooner or later. And while it's hard to not consider it, it seems as if asking about the album only shoves it farther away. Hence I try to not think about too much - for sure there will still be more new music from Deftones besides Gore and Eros, anyway.
"@DownloadFest @deftones Hey congratulations on a fantastic new album! My question is....Will you ever release Eros??? #DLQA"
https://twitter.com/seandoona/status/719909117255671808
"@seandoona Hey sean. Hmmm, it's possible. But it would have to be finished first.
Thnx -F #DLQA"
https://twitter.com/DownloadFest/status/719963157674852352
Frank and Abe on the Download Fest Q&A
we know Eros is at least "good", because we've heard 2 finished songs, & the music for "dallas"(which has Stephen literally soloing. not a boarderline solo either). and all their other albums being good, it's safe to say this one is too. it's just unfinished, so it'd be like half bob ezrin demos/ half basically finished(smile) kinda deal
i think Chino willl leak it for us years & years from now if they decide to never finish it.
1 band member dead = 1 eros song released, that's the formula.
It's cruel, I know.
IIRC there are three live recordings of melanie and I think two of them are from the ventura show. I only remember watching one of the ventura recordings but I dont think Ive seen/heard the other. Im only asking because my youtube search skills have failed me so I cant see for myself. Hope someone points me in the right direction.
Quote from: ChickenNoodle on Apr 16, 2016, 08:49 PM
IIRC there are three live recordings of melanie and I think two of them are from the ventura show. I only remember watching one of the ventura recordings but I dont think Ive seen/heard the other. Im only asking because my youtube search skills have failed me so I cant see for myself. Hope someone points me in the right direction.
Melanie was recorded at The Ventura and The Spaceland, both were uploaded. I think they played it a third time but I'm not sure.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk1VBjUqbik#)
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJ5qVB8ogk#)
To be honest, these days I'm having a hard time watching pre-2009 footage.
Quote from: MrVesanique on Apr 16, 2016, 09:27 PM
Quote from: ChickenNoodle on Apr 16, 2016, 08:49 PM
IIRC there are three live recordings of melanie and I think two of them are from the ventura show. I only remember watching one of the ventura recordings but I dont think Ive seen/heard the other. Im only asking because my youtube search skills have failed me so I cant see for myself. Hope someone points me in the right direction.
To be honest, these days I'm having a hard time watching pre-2009 footage.
How come?
It's just Chi, man. I know, it's been a while and all I don't want to sound negative, but for some reason, with this whole re-invigorated Deftones vibe and shit, it's like it never fully hit me before.
Quote from: MrVesanique on Apr 16, 2016, 09:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJ5qVB8ogk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJ5qVB8ogk)
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeqEXPnL23U#)
gem
props to Monk
As much as I enjoy Gore, I really wish we had some more concrete information regarding the status of this album, like in regards to how "incomplete" it is. I was of the understanding that it was completely written and recorded, musically, but that only half the songs had vocals. Can anybody fill me in if I'm mistaken?
Quote from: the7thsaga on Apr 20, 2016, 05:12 PM
As much as I enjoy Gore, I really wish we had some more concrete information regarding the status of this album, like in regards to how "incomplete" it is. I was of the understanding that it was completely written and recorded, musically, but that only half the songs had vocals. Can anybody fill me in if I'm mistaken?
Here's my thing... you all want Eros but look at how long it took them to finalize Gore. I have a very high suspicion that we will never hear it.
Quote from: MrVesanique on Apr 16, 2016, 09:44 PM
It's just Chi, man. I know, it's been a while and all I don't want to sound negative, but for some reason, with this whole re-invigorated Deftones vibe and shit, it's like it never fully hit me before.
wow. That's really deep man. I sorta feel this way but could never really put it into a few words....that sucks man. As big a fan u are, my sympathy goes out to u. I think I was at my worst about it right at the initial accident but as time went on it was horrible. making diamond eyes at least gave me some hope as if the band could get through it, us fans could I guess. At least for myself. At the same time I always under that "hope" have felt that Deftones would never be the same again and they haven't obviously. you're right, it's even more than a new era I guess. We are left to either love it or hate it like anything else. If I could think of any other groups in history who lost an arm or a leg say Wu-Tang for example, I think Deftones have come out of it stronger comparatively and that's the most I can say to the positive. I mean look at Metallica. Lots of bad music IMO after Burton died almost the same exact way with exception of a couple more classics after.... Or The Who even, etc etc... I have grown closer to this new invigorated DT after Gore was released bc I genuinely LOVE the whole record and possibly found a little more hope. Still, I am a bit weary about the future because a few years can change a lot of things.I posted a couple days ago somewhere how I felt about the future and it goes along with this whole deal. Cheers to more surprises. RIP Cheng
Yeah, sorry for the cheap emotion..
I even looked back at the pictures of him while he was in treatment, you know. Looking back, it's kinda harsh, I mean there was not a chance in a million Chi would ever get back on feet. Looking at these pictures again, it's just so obvious. But thinking back, I swear, I was not feeling like this at all. I was blindly lifted by some desperate hope, like the ripped wires inside his skull could actually get glued together sometime again. I kept checking on all updates, read all the statuses his mother would post about it, would ask for news from some relatives, etc. Something to do with faith, maybe? And it really blows my mind, I'm no believer at all usually..
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 26, 2016, 06:29 PM
Quote from: MrVesanique on Apr 16, 2016, 09:44 PM
It's just Chi, man. I know, it's been a while and all I don't want to sound negative, but for some reason, with this whole re-invigorated Deftones vibe and shit, it's like it never fully hit me before.
wow. That's really deep man. I sorta feel this way but could never really put it into a few words....that sucks man. As big a fan u are, my sympathy goes out to u. I think I was at my worst about it right at the initial accident but as time went on it was horrible. making diamond eyes at least gave me some hope as if the band could get through it, us fans could I guess. At least for myself. At the same time I always under that "hope" have felt that Deftones would never be the same again and they haven't obviously. you're right, it's even more than a new era I guess. We are left to either love it or hate it like anything else. If I could think of any other groups in history who lost an arm or a leg say Wu-Tang for example, I think Deftones have come out of it stronger comparatively and that's the most I can say to the positive. I have grown closer to this new invigorated DT after Gore was released bc I genuinely LOVE the whole record and possibly found a little more hope. Still, I am a bit weary about the future because a few years can change a lot of things.I posted a couple days ago somewhere how I felt about the future and it goes along with this whole deal. Cheers to more surprises. RIP Cheng
I was with Chi, right before the accident.
We hung out in Vegas, at the Palms. Most of the time was out back, just hanging out, resting. Him and Stephen.
Honestly, it felt like hanging out with someone doomed.
He was introverted, super nice and loved his trees. Kind of too good for this earth type thing.
Then like a week later, it all happened, made me sick. I'm still sick.
This album needs to drop, completed or not.
Quote from: MrVesanique on Apr 26, 2016, 06:44 PM
Yeah, sorry for the cheap emotion..
I even looked back at the pictures of him while he was in treatment, you know. Looking back, it's kinda harsh, I mean there was not a chance in a million Chi would ever get back on feet. Looking at these pictures again, it's just so obvious. But thinking back, I swear, I was not feeling like this at all. I was blindly lifted by some desperate hope, like the ripped wires inside his skull could actually get glued together sometime again. I kept checking on all updates, read all the statuses his mother would post about it, would ask for news from some relatives, etc. Something to do with faith, maybe? And it really blows my mind, I'm no believer at all usually..
This is exactly how I have felt, and continue to feel. That's why the emotionally heavy stuff released since hits so hard and powerfully
Same here it's all human. I secretly accepted it then, is the difference between us. I actually had a deck made without wheels when I was down in Key West, it has the self-titled cover on the bottom and says "one love for Chi"( I will post it sometime I know I've said this before)but when I told the guy what I wanted I actually wrote RIP Chi and this was early 2009....and realized what I had just written and wrote properly what I was going for. I was embarrassed even though this guy had no idea who he was or what happened but I was embarrassed for myself and ashamed even though it was an accident. I think looking back, at that moment was when I knew in my heart somehow that there was no way he was coming out of it and I'm sorry for that.
When I met the band during Chi's life, I met everyone except Frank and Chi. I have met them three times since Chi's death and met Sergio and now Frank. I will always regret that I didn't get to shake his hand and thank him. I like To think I'm a man who lives with no regrets.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 26, 2016, 07:02 PM
When I met the band during Chi's life, I met everyone except Frank and Chi. I have met them three times since Chi's death and met Sergio and now Frank. I will always regret that I didn't get to shake his hand and thank him. I like To think I'm a man who lives with no regrets.
Chi likes to hide away.
Remember "Chi" by Korn?
I wish you could have met him though. Just a nice guy all the way around.
I do miss him.
I think people underestimate how important Chi was to the sound of this band, the bass play is so incredible on the old albums. It's literally one of the things that drew me to deftones in the beginning.
that day will be a wonderful time, and i really know it will happen sometime, and i will cry as the same when that happened, but now will be because of peace and happineess.
Quote from: Cullision on Apr 27, 2016, 12:37 AM
I think people underestimate how important Chi was to the sound of this band, the bass play is so incredible on the old albums. It's literally one of the things that drew me to deftones in the beginning.
Yeah, loved it in Lifter.
Quote from: Cullision on Apr 27, 2016, 12:37 AM
I think people underestimate how important Chi was to the sound of this band, the bass play is so incredible on the old albums. It's literally one of the things that drew me to deftones in the beginning.
You are right. As time went on I started to focus more and more on his parts, and he really made a lot of the songs. The verse on Knife Party for example, just stunning.
Deftones — Destiny (EROS snippet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHmCfA8gKw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHmCfA8gKw)
Quote from: krook on Apr 30, 2016, 02:09 PM
Deftones — Destiny (EROS snippet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHmCfA8gKw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHmCfA8gKw)
Sounds fake
Quote from: krook on Apr 30, 2016, 02:09 PM
Deftones — Destiny (EROS snippet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHmCfA8gKw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHmCfA8gKw)
Not Deftones
Quote from: LG95 on Apr 30, 2016, 02:47 PM
Quote from: krook on Apr 30, 2016, 02:09 PM
Deftones — Destiny (EROS snippet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHmCfA8gKw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHmCfA8gKw)
Not Deftones
someone post the real song in the comment section
I can't wait until this finally comes out so I can read everyone's complaints about it
Quote from: 77years on May 01, 2016, 11:30 AM
I can't wait until this finally comes out so I can read everyone's complaints about it
Yep. It's too hyped up, it's not going to live up to it. Especially since it's unfinished, and the band have implied that it'd have to be finished first. The entire album would be dissected into pieces, with people stating that this part is new, this part is original, the new parts have ruined it, they should've left it, the vocals suck, the production isn't as good, etc. And that's all the worse for it being the last music Chi worked on. If I were in the band, I'd be way too scared of people's negative opinions to want to release it.
sadly thats 100% accurate and for that alone i dont think it gets released.
i never did think they would release it regardless. going back through to "finish it" would be a huge mistake imo. release it as is, maybe aside from mixing/mastering tweaks but dont work new stuff onto it further.
if half the tracks or more are instrumental, so be it. it wouldnt be "tainted" then at least.
if they are so worried its unfinished vocally, just release the finished tracks that have vocals as an ep.
seems simple to me. but i do respect whatever they decide to do, which again imo, i dont think they release it at all, sadly.
As is, is the way to go.
We would all respect that.
If they ever release songs from it. I could see them just making a B Sides and Rarities Vol. 2 with the finished songs along with some covers. I only say that because if it wasn't finished I don't see them going back to finish it at this point. I just doubt they release it as full cd.
https://twitter.com/chinomoreno/status/754081404095377408
Quote from: nicklav on Jul 15, 2016, 10:43 PM
https://twitter.com/chinomoreno/status/754081404095377408
Can anyone rip this? I'd really like to have the 320 kbps high quality copy please.
What is it? Twitter sucks on my phone
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Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Jul 17, 2016, 04:18 PM
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Smile Pro-produced version
Quote from: snw9 on Jul 17, 2016, 04:53 PM
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Jul 17, 2016, 04:18 PM
What is it? Twitter sucks on my phone
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Smile Pro-produced version
Should say "Fan produced".
"Published on Apr 17, 2014" - it's really the same song, maybe just some fan put his hands on its mix.
Yawn
I was thinking today, would be really cool if they just had a listening session or something and everybody could listen in and then that was it. No matter what the condition of the song, just so we can hear the way it ended
That would be dope!
I know the Eros music doesn't belong to the deftones, because they were under a contract with Warner when it was written.
But why can't warner say a price for the master tapes, and fans can put up whatever money they can and see if it's enough?
Those half-made songs are just rotting away somewhere anyway.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Nov 06, 2018, 07:50 PM
I know the Eros music doesn't belong to the deftones, because they were under a contract with Warner when it was written.
But why can't warner say a price for the master tapes, and fans can put up whatever money they can and see if it's enough?
Those half-made songs are just rotting away somewhere anyway.
How do you know it doesn't belong to them? of course it does, they wrote the songs
Lol we're not talking about some garage-demos here.
When deftones signed to warner, deftones got money from the label in advance to make records,in this case to make Eros.
When Eros should be released, the label would keep all the money made from the record sales until they had recouped their expenses, which includes the advance, recording costs, promotion and the legal fees.
After theses costs have been covered, deftones get a percentage of the record sale profit - called royalties.
Since no money have been paid back to Warner in record sales cuz of obvious reasons,it is their music.Not deftones.
Why do think Warner told chino to delete the song "Smile" when he uploaded it? Because it's not Chino's song anymore, it's recorded under Warners paid studio time, and they have the rights to that material because of signing.
I just want Warner to get back the expenses for the Eros sessions.
FYI, James Hetfield & co just recently became the owner of their (Metallicas) music. They bought it from the label.
There's a slight difference between Metallica and Deftones when it comes to affording to buy back their catalog though.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Nov 07, 2018, 06:39 PM
Lol we're not talking about some garage-demos here.
When deftones signed to warner, deftones got money from the label in advance to make records,in this case to make Eros.
When Eros should be released, the label would keep all the money made from the record sales until they had recouped their expenses, which includes the advance, recording costs, promotion and the legal fees.
After theses costs have been covered, deftones get a percentage of the record sale profit - called royalties.
Since no money have been paid back to Warner in record sales cuz of obvious reasons,it is their music.Not deftones.
Why do think Warner told chino to delete the song "Smile" when he uploaded it? Because it's not Chino's song anymore, it's recorded under Warners paid studio time, and they have the rights to that material because of signing.
I just want Warner to get back the expenses for the Eros sessions.
FYI, James Hetfield & co just recently became the owner of their (Metallicas) music. They bought it from the label.
I think you are talking shit
This is spliced in their rehearsal vid from the Eros sessions, maybe it was meant to be artwork? They had a character like that in the background of their website in 2008
(https://preview.redd.it/eebzsmw3x7x11.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2b93b64f3dd38c22ac58ec94ce0c9f60f26b6b47)
Quote from: Gaz on Nov 09, 2018, 11:19 AM
I think you are talking shit
You seem to think that labels just pour money over artists, and then the artists are free to whatever the fuck they want anyway.
If that's not naive thinking I don't know what is
Quote from: sharinglungs on Nov 08, 2018, 09:01 AM
There's a slight difference between Metallica and Deftones when it comes to affording to buy back their catalog though.
Yes there is. So what's your point?
Does anyone have the Revolver Magazine issue from December 2008? I believe there's an interview about Eros
Yo V,
I don't have the scans but I do remember typing out the article on here back in the day...here it is:
Although the tentative title for the forthcoming Deftones release is Eros, drummer Abe Cunningham says the name (originally of the Greek god of love) isn't meant to imply that the Sacramento, California, crunch-art kings are serving up high-concept mythology metal on their sixth studio release. For the title's true inspiration, we can thank German TV.
"When we first started touring Europe a lot, many years ago, we would always be going through Germany and other countries in that particular area", recalls Cunningham, speaking fr his home while enjoying some time off, having completed tracking. "We'd be in our hotel rooms, and for lack of many channels, there'd always be some sort of German porn, and they would always say [in heavy, lusty accent] 'Eros.' It was just kind of funny, and it's been a joke for years. That's usually how things start; Just us goofing around. The working titles are all names of strippers, like 'Destiny.'"
The drummer says working to keep things fun is one of the keys to the band's longevity; the Deftones - which also include vocalist Chino Moreno, guitarist Stephen Carpenter, bassist Chi Cheng, and keyboardist-sampler Frank Delgado - have now entered their 20th year together, yet recording Eros they still managed to come to work with a smile. It's all the more impressive considering the group endured major turbulence in recent years, including some very near-breakups.
"We've come very close to breaking up, especially in the past three or four years, maybe even five years, while we were having some really terrible times," he says. "I thought the band was really done, and that was a shitty feeling. But this band is what we do. I had a minute where I thought, Well, maybe I could do something else, but it felt very odd."
One of the low points cam during the two-year process of recording 2006's Saturday Night Wrist, during which the band clashed internally and with famed producer Bob Ezrin (Kiss, Pink Floyd, Jane's Addiction), who never finished the album. When the tension reached a breaking point, Moreno took a hiatus from the band and toured with his side project, Team Sleep, leaving the fate of the Deftones undecided. Once tempers cooled and the singer returned, however, the re-tooled Wrist tracks drew praise from critics and fans alike.
"I love that record. I think it turned out really well, as difficult and insane a process as it was, and as long it took, and the amount of money it cost," Cunningham says. "Never again do I want to repeat that process; it was horrible. I aged many years."
So this time around, the group re-enlisted their longtime collaborated and master of the knobs Terry Date, who produced each of the released prior to Wrist, as well as Pantera's best albums. "Having him back was wonderful," says Cunningham. "We've done pretty much everything with him in the past, and he's just the greatest dude. It was very comfortable, and just good times."
Working on the new record with Date, in their hometown and in their studio, was a pleasant change for the band, especially compared with the Wrist sessions. From conception to mixing (which is being done at a seperate facility), Eros took about a year to complete, and the results, according to Cunningham, have "a pretty lush production" with "jarring, knife-in-your-neck parts, but with floating-on-clouds, beautiful things, too." Perhaps more important, it sounds as though this time the band didn't tear each other to pieces along the way.
"Wrist was a cleansing process for everyone, and we realized we're best friends. We're just dudes who've been making music for 20 years now and having a good time, and that's really what it was all about from the get-go," Cunningham says ."It made the process all the more enjoyable and easy. I think our future records will be much better becasue the line of communication is open, and it feels great."
Then there's a little blip that says this:
Vital stats:
Title - Eros (Tentative)
Release date - January 2009
Producers - Terry Date
Recording in - The Spot (band's studio), Sacramento, California
That's even better. Thanks dude!
Nice read!
Renews the interest in 'Eros' though...
Great read, thanks Inkblades!
Sorry for stirring up this seemingly hopeless for the moment topic, but i haven't checked the boards lately with lack of new album info so just catching up and saw that article. Is it me or does that make it sound much more finished or close to finish than the band leads us to believe these days?
For the sake of conversation, here's a comment I just received on DeftonesLive, on our edit of Smile. I usually don't pay attention to that stuff. Dude sounds like he's in the know though...
Illud Divinus
6 hours ago
And the only track that was partly mastered with completed bass tracks from Chi. He's heard in a couple of band recordings belting about how bad ass it sounds. If you don't know the band you'll prob never see it. The bands still holding onto that material since technically they would have to split whatever money comes from it to chi's estate. The album is on ice mostly for legal purposes unfortunately in that respect. It's also more of an EP and wouldn't have enough tracks for a full length given chi's unfinished parts. Which is why splitting royalties if they complete it would get muddy. The album has since then been heavily cannibalized in large parts for later releases. Some tracks were completely ripped apart and reused for parts in No Koi Yokan. That's partly why they haven't released it too. You're welcome. RIP CHI 🤘🏼
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 19, 2020, 01:00 AM
For the sake of conversation, here's a comment I just received on DeftonesLive, on our edit of Smile. I usually don't pay attention to that stuff. Dude sounds like he's in the know though...
Illud Divinus
6 hours ago
And the only track that was partly mastered with completed bass tracks from Chi. He’s heard in a couple of band recordings belting about how bad ass it sounds. If you don’t know the band you’ll prob never see it. The bands still holding onto that material since technically they would have to split whatever money comes from it to chi’s estate. The album is on ice mostly for legal purposes unfortunately in that respect. It’s also more of an EP and wouldn’t have enough tracks for a full length given chi’s unfinished parts. Which is why splitting royalties if they complete it would get muddy. The album has since then been heavily cannibalized in large parts for later releases. Some tracks were completely ripped apart and reused for parts in No Koi Yokan. That’s partly why they haven’t released it too. You’re welcome. RIP CHI
Very interesting quote you have posted here. This may align with what Abe has mentioned in a recent interview (June 15th 2020):
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-drummer-explains-why-eros-album-remains-unreleased/
DEFTONES' Abe Cunningham has explained why the band has yet to release its long-shelved 2008 "Eros" album. According to the drummer, the LP — the last to feature bassist Chi Cheng before a car crash put him in a coma that lasted until his death in 2013 — was never finished.
In a new interview with Download TV, Cunningham said: "It was never completed, and that's what people don't get. Like, 'What, you're just sitting on it?' and I mean, no, we're not just sitting on it, we never finished it... There's a lot attached to it as well, you know? And I understand that people are passionate about that and they want to hear Chi's last musical contribution."
DEFTONES singer Chino Moreno told The Pulse Of Radio a while back why the band decided to keep "Eros" under wraps. "Some of it was out of respect for Chi — 'Let's just put this album, you know, in a vault for a while and, you know, hold on to it,'" he said. "It's the last thing that Chi's played on, so we hold it very dear to us. It's something that we have under our belt and when we feel the time is right we'll put it out."
Cunningham told Download TV that DEFTONES have broached the subject of issuing some of the material from the record, saying: "We've talked about putting out maybe a condensed version or an EP of four or five songs, something like that, and that kind of makes sense. But we have to get into all the legalities of it, and all that stuff, and also we have to finish it. But yeah, it would be nice for that to see the light of day, definitely."
An EP is an idea the band is considering.
So, the Eros EP would likely be Smile, Dallas, Melanie and one or two other songs. Hopefully this one with the bad ass riff would be one of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hywI1emDHk
I remember being so fucking hyped by that clip, ugh. Kind of has a Finger of Death vibe to it.
Anyone else remember this? IDK who it really is or if it is in fact an Eros demo but it's pretty damn groovy nonetheless. Wish I knew...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLDUAnYHh0&list=FLm28cYr8IpmxgPu2JQiGUVg&index=72&t=0s
Pretty sure that's not them.
So who originally leaked the instrumental to "Dallas"??? And especially, who NAMED it? What I'm asking is if it probably wasn't the band that leaked it, did the person who leaked it decide to call it Dallas just because we know Deftones had a tentative song title called Dallas? Or is that for certain the track THEY were calling Dallas? Hope this question makes sense. ???
It was a random YouTube channel called JG Productions.
I have edited OP with new links (DeftonesLive edits of the live performances of Smile and Melanie for example), and re-edited info.
A few years back, Nico (deftones-argentina here) has provided me with an audio clip of the fan-named "Dallas". It was different from the one that leaked, with an extended intro and a weird cut in it. I don't remember where he got that from.
Also, a few months back while I was doing some research on "Eros", I found out through their last interview before Chi's accident that the record was tentatively set for release to January 2009.
I also found an interview from mid-2008 where Chino said they were planning on a small-venue-only tour to go back to "those roots" per se, and they were going to play one full record at each show, one different record at each gig too.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 28, 2020, 09:23 PM
I have edited OP with new links (DeftonesLive edits of the live performances of Smile and Melanie for example), and re-edited info.
A few years back, Nico (deftones-argentina here) has provided me with an audio clip of the fan-named "Dallas". It was different from the one that leaked, with an extended intro and a weird cut in it. I don't remember where he got that from.
Also, a few months back while I was doing some research on "Eros", I found out through their last interview before Chi's accident that the record was tentatively set for release to January 2009.
I also found an interview from mid-2008 where Chino said they were planning on a small-venue-only tour to go back to "those roots" per se, and they were going to play one full record at each show, one different record at each gig too.
So, "fan named". Ok thanks....
And holy shit wld that have been magical for them to tour like that and be there for a show!? I feel like the band really really changed after Chi and Eros' days and not in a bad way but i miss the band i knew them as if u get me. They (especially Chino) are in a way better headspace now compared to then but the music was a lot different to me and always will be. It was meant to be though.
BBC aired Smile during that recent Deftones special. I mean that's pretty awesome. Smile is still not an official release.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 30, 2020, 04:57 AM
BBC aired Smile during that recent Deftones special. I mean that's pretty awesome. Smile is still not an official release despite.
Yeah I noticed that too... Warner Bros is like fuckit
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 30, 2020, 04:57 AM
BBC aired Smile during that recent Deftones special. I mean that's pretty awesome. Smile is still not an official release.
Yeah that blew my mind. Not the first time Daniel P Carter has played it on Radio 1 though. He did it a while back.
You are 100% correct.
WB owns the masters. This is how the music industry works if you don't keep all publishing rights from the get go. Sorry to bring up a old message, but it seemed like people weren't believing in your statement.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Nov 11, 2018, 11:34 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Nov 09, 2018, 11:19 AM
I think you are talking shit
You seem to think that labels just pour money over artists, and then the artists are free to whatever the fuck they want anyway.
If that's not naive thinking I don't know what is
Quote from: sharinglungs on Nov 08, 2018, 09:01 AM
There's a slight difference between Metallica and Deftones when it comes to affording to buy back their catalog though.
Yes there is. So what's your point?
Quote from: Roncore on Sep 30, 2020, 09:00 PM
You are 100% correct.
WB owns the masters. This is how the music industry works if you don't keep all publishing rights from the get go. Sorry to bring up a old message, but it seemed like people weren't believing in your statement.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Nov 11, 2018, 11:34 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Nov 09, 2018, 11:19 AM
I think you are talking shit
You seem to think that labels just pour money over artists, and then the artists are free to whatever the fuck they want anyway.
If that's not naive thinking I don't know what is
Quote from: sharinglungs on Nov 08, 2018, 09:01 AM
There's a slight difference between Metallica and Deftones when it comes to affording to buy back their catalog though.
Yes there is. So what's your point?
Digging up old comments, you obviously couldn't understand I was taking the piss (that's a British term if you don't know it)
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 01, 2020, 03:57 PM
Quote from: Roncore on Sep 30, 2020, 09:00 PM
You are 100% correct.
WB owns the masters. This is how the music industry works if you don't keep all publishing rights from the get go. Sorry to bring up a old message, but it seemed like people weren't believing in your statement.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Nov 11, 2018, 11:34 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Nov 09, 2018, 11:19 AM
I think you are talking shit
You seem to think that labels just pour money over artists, and then the artists are free to whatever the fuck they want anyway.
If that's not naive thinking I don't know what is
Quote from: sharinglungs on Nov 08, 2018, 09:01 AM
There's a slight difference between Metallica and Deftones when it comes to affording to buy back their catalog though.
Yes there is. So what's your point?
Digging up old comments, you obviously couldn't understand I was taking the piss (that's a British term if you don't know it)
What does "taking the piss" mean to Brits? Maybe i missed something, just curious to know
It means he was joking around.
Quote from: Gaz on Oct 01, 2020, 03:57 PM
Quote from: Roncore on Sep 30, 2020, 09:00 PM
You are 100% correct.
WB owns the masters. This is how the music industry works if you don't keep all publishing rights from the get go. Sorry to bring up a old message, but it seemed like people weren't believing in your statement.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Nov 11, 2018, 11:34 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Nov 09, 2018, 11:19 AM
I think you are talking shit
You seem to think that labels just pour money over artists, and then the artists are free to whatever the fuck they want anyway.
If that's not naive thinking I don't know what is
Quote from: sharinglungs on Nov 08, 2018, 09:01 AM
There's a slight difference between Metallica and Deftones when it comes to affording to buy back their catalog though.
Yes there is. So what's your point?
Digging up old comments, you obviously couldn't understand I was taking the piss (that's a British term if you don't know it)
No offense Gaz, but it really doesn't seem like you were joking,sorry ;D
I don't know what deftones exact deal with warner was back then, and neither does anyone else here. but I would guess they signed away the master rights, pretty standard in those days
https://www.nme.com/news/music/deftones-on-lost-album-eros-it-would-be-interesting-to-finish-at-some-point-and-ive-never-said-we-wont-2775289
Yoooooooooo we might hear eros from start to finish!
Quote from: sharinglungs on Oct 08, 2020, 12:06 PM
https://www.nme.com/news/music/deftones-on-lost-album-eros-it-would-be-interesting-to-finish-at-some-point-and-ive-never-said-we-wont-2775289
Yoooooooooo we might hear eros from start to finish!
The comments he's made in this interview give real hope of them actually finisihing it, part of me had wished that them reuniting with Terry may reignite that particular flame. I know they've said previously they may never finish it or might only release a few tracks as an EP, but I do hope they finish it as much as it must be hard to go back to it.
they need to just finish it already, not like they don't have the time...
Nothing new to see there. they play Chi's songs every night when touring and rehearsing. I guess its the whole "finishing" the songs that Chi wont get to play or hear that he helped create? Must be. Chino writes songs by reacting to the music. But it seems he feels he would be too uncomfortable reacting to these noises again after all this time. And does time make it easier to revisit one day bc of the healing process? Or does time as it goes on make it harder and less likely? We dont know. Nobody does..... dont hold your breath. It will be a nice surprise if something happens then
I remember hearing stef say like a month ago that the entire Eros album is finished instrumentally, so its up to Chino / the label if they wanna put out Eros at some point. If Stef is telling the truth, maybe Chino could start thinking of melodies / lyrics right now just for fun. I dont see them releasing Eros until they're near retirement, though
Quote from: Roidragee on Oct 08, 2020, 10:24 PM
I remember hearing stef say like a month ago that the entire Eros album is finished instrumentally, so its up to Chino / the label if they wanna put out Eros at some point. If Stef is telling the truth, maybe Chino could start thinking of melodies / lyrics right now just for fun. I dont see them releasing Eros until they're near retirement, though
That would suck but probably makes sense they would wait until that kind of moment... Stef did say recently that the album was complete instrumentally but he also went on to say that typically when Chino goes to finish his vocals over the music they tend to have to rewrite/rearrange the instrumentation a little to suit Chino's vox. So, it's like double dipping, but according to him it's the way they've always done it.
and I don't know what the future for live gigs will be but I hope they can get back to it next year, if not, then they have to figure out another way. Releasing more music is of course something I personally wouldn't mind seeing (Ohms, Black Stallion, Eros, re-issues/re-mixes, dvds, compilations, etc.) I know like me, their entire rabid fan base would most likely buy up anything they decide to officially release...
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ScrawnyLimpArmednylonshrimp-small.gif)
Shaun Lopez talks about Eros on the latest Change in the House of Flies podcast, here's him describing one of the songs:
https://twitter.com/93XRadio/status/1547936519997968385 (https://twitter.com/93XRadio/status/1547936519997968385)
Can anyone link me to the best sounding MP3s of all the music from Eros leaked so far?
Are the only full studio songs Smile and Dallas? And the only versions of Melanie are live recordings?
I think I only have a MP3 of Smile, which was ripped from youtube like the first week it leaked there.
Has any fan tried to EQ or Master them to make them sound more like all the other studio albums? I'd be interested in those MP3s.
Thanks!
I came across something on the band's subreddit. There is a vinyl of "Smile" available for pre-order on Amazon Italy. The pre-order is not available on Amazon UK, the listing shows there as well nonetheless.
Yeah, I saw some recent talk of that on there too. Guess we'll find out in January.
I've noticed this
https://vltava.cz/eshop/catalog/product/view/id/3036057
and this https://www.discotecalaziale.com/0093624876496_smile-deftones
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/374328640641?hash=item5727b9c481:g:k4MAAOSwAxZjXngr
OKAY JUST WHAT IN THE SAM HELL IS GOING ON
https://blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-are-chipping-away-on-some-new-music
AI Generated "EROS" Album art.
(https://i.imgur.com/YJJgW6T.png)
Terry Date said on the Change in the House of Pods that he wants go to back to working on Eros but also that it is ultimately and obviously up to the band if it ever gets released. The myth of Eros continues...
He also said that in the next few weeks he was going to finish mixing the album, so that when they're ready to come back to it, it's there.
That's the most promising sign on Eros getting finished that we've had since 2008.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Jun 05, 2023, 09:55 PM
He also said that in the next few weeks he was going to finish mixing the album, so that when they're ready to come back to it, it's there.
That's the most promising sign on Eros getting finished that we've had since 2008.
I agree. I don't think a producer of Date's caliber would just randomly finish mixing a 15 year old album because he is bored and "just in case". Especially considering the tragic circumstances. I would think there is more to it than this that he can't say.
Then again, I am not Terry Date and I have no idea what goes through his mind. If I had pieces of that album just chilling on my PC..... I sure as heck would find it fun and rewarding to finish those pieces if I had the tools and know how. Like Inkblades said, the myth of Eros continues!
there must be something brewing, the Mixlr songs, Terry Date mixing Eros, something is happening
Quote from: Gaz on Jun 12, 2023, 11:35 AM
there must be something brewing, the Mixlr songs, Terry Date mixing Eros, something is happening
whats this about... i mean the mixlr songs? what happened?
Once the band is ready to revisit Eros, they will do it
Some interesting info here:
https://reddit.com/r/deftones/s/aCEqrIR3K9
Guy claims that they're waiting to release Eros as their last album... Vesanic says he's spoken to the poster and believes they're legit with the info they posted.
That would be the most obvious way to proceed
Yeah, I saw that post too. I always figured they'd put out Eros as a swan song. But I think they might also be a band for at least another decade, so I'm guessing it will probably still be a long time before we hear it.
Yeah the old interview 'Musically it’s probably 75 - 80% done and lyrically it was about halfway there, but honestly, I wasn't too happy with the material we had,’ ‘Some of the music was lacking a little bit. I had faith it was going to come together and be great in the end, but we never got to that point. Once Chi had his accident, everything came to a halt with the Eros sessions, so the idea of going back to that batch of songs, finishing them and have Sergio learn Chi's parts just hasn't felt like something that we're interested in doing. If the record were finished and we were just sitting on it, we probably would have put it out by now, maybe even given it away, just so that people can hear it, but it would take a lot more work to get it done. But when we get together, we're much more fascinated with where we are in this moment, trying to create something new.’